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Offline samatt

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« 2017-May-29, 12:56 PM Reply #25 »
So it's been confirmed we are racing at Doomben next week.

https://www.punters.com.au/news/Queensland-Oaks-meeting-moved-to-Doomben_159609/

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« 2017-Jun-05, 11:40 AM Reply #26 »
Some good 3yos coming through the carnival again, following on from the deeds of Winx and Werther.

Egg Tart may slide into Winx' shoes if she goes overseas in 2018, Waller must be pinching himself. She will obviously never be her equal but looms as a pretty handy replacement.

Think we'll see a nice developing stayer in Volatile Mix this week. Deep, late maturing pedigree and a lovely type. Pity the Derby got transferred, I feel he would have killed them at Eagle Farm.
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« 2017-Jun-05, 12:37 PM Reply #27 »
On the other hand I hope they don't run Ana Royale in the Derby. How to wreck a nice filly 101. Though I guess Jameka ran in everything. I could semi understand it at Eagle Farm but Doomben is not her go.

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« 2017-Jun-05, 03:35 PM Reply #28 »
So after taking a number of futures bet for the carnival I am left with St Patrick's Day & Lord Cecil in the JJ Atkins and no long range runner in the Straddy. The Barracuda in the Derby is currently in 21st place in order of entry with a field of 16 + 5 emergencies but I'm not holding my breath......

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« 2017-Jun-12, 12:13 PM Reply #29 »
Was today traditionally Brisbane Cup day?

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« 2017-Jun-12, 12:33 PM Reply #30 »
Sure was . Several years ago the powers that be in Queensland Racing included the Cup and the JJ Atkins into Stradbroke day. Not even a public holiday in Queensland anymore. Really going down the drain Queensland Racing.

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« 2017-Jun-12, 12:50 PM Reply #31 »
Sure was . Several years ago the powers that be in Queensland Racing included the Cup and the JJ Atkins into Stradbroke day. Not even a public holiday in Queensland anymore. Really going down the drain Queensland Racing.

I just remember in the mid to late 70's/80's this was a huge day out at Randwick.

A major part of that was that it was Brisbane Cup day (and I think they ran the 1600m G1 for 2yos as well - the Castlemaine Stks???).

The had the listed Winter Cup over 2400m at Randwick and the place was packed.

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« 2017-Jun-12, 01:10 PM Reply #32 »
I just remember in the mid to late 70's/80's this was a huge day out at Randwick.

A major part of that was that it was Brisbane Cup day (and I think they ran the 1600m G1 for 2yos as well - the Castlemaine Stks???).

The had the listed Winter Cup over 2400m at Randwick and the place was packed.

PP, having grown up in Sydney the racing era of the late 70's and 80's was great and yes, the Randwick crowd on the Queens Birthday holiday would be large on the Monday and the 3200mt Brisbane Cup was a drawcard for cross state betting.

But how the whole dynamics of racing has changed as we head to the year 2020.

The majority of the crowd use the races as a dress up and drink day and the demise of racing tradition continues.

The major staying Cup in each city was always run over 2 miles (3200mts) but we see race clubs in their misguided wisdom bring the distances back to 2400mts in WA and QLD, okay this year was 2200mts because of the change to Doomben.

But what I noticed on Saturday at Doomben left me convinced that we are in a mess in QLD with the demise of the "true racegoer".

Watch the replay of the Stradbroke and look at the umbrella covered tables along the straight and the most of the "youngsters" weren't even watching the race, they were chatting up the "filly" along side them and wouldn't even be able to tell you who won the race.

I unfortunately feel the era that the "true racegoer" once loved is all but gone.

The one big plus was that Doomben raced fair to all and at least we were back on a real racetrack.

Keep smiling.

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« 2017-Jun-12, 01:24 PM Reply #33 »
Yes mate time marches on.

Very last pacing meeting at Fairfield today - council are using the track for "redevelopment" and have evicted the harness. Being the home of Joe Tripodi we all know what that means no doubt the local property developers have been "lobbying" council for a while.

It is a shame.

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« 2017-Jun-12, 02:51 PM Reply #34 »
I did not know today was the last meeting at Fairfield. Thanks for the info PP. I can remember going to gymcarna meeting I think they were called in the late 60s. They were trials and drivers going around then were Hall, Moulds, Adams Watts and Chant.

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« 2017-Jun-12, 03:16 PM Reply #35 »
J C Caffyn

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« 2017-Jun-12, 03:18 PM Reply #36 »
Yes and his son Cyril.

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« 2017-Jun-12, 05:46 PM Reply #37 »


The one big plus was that Doomben raced fair to all and at least we were back on a real racetrack.

Keep smiling.

 :)

I was going to say that it was great to be about the racing and not a peep about the track.

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« 2017-Jun-12, 05:59 PM Reply #38 »
End of an era | Fairfield Harness racing to hold last meeting on June 12

Colin Watts can remember November 23, 1964 like it was yesterday.

It was the day the Fairfield Harness Racing Club held its first race meeting.

“It was very exciting. There were 45 bookmakers betting on the trots and 15 on the away meetings,” he said.

“I can remember the excitement. The came in droves – almost 10,000 people.”

On Monday, June 12 the Trot Dome at Fairfield will see racing for the final time when the club hosts the time-honoured JD Watts Memorial meeting – a race named after Colin’s father Jack.

Jack Watts drove Smoke Cloud to win the main race on that first meeting.

It began a long association for the Watts family and Fairfield Harness.

Jack (JD) Watts was one of harness racing’s true pioneers, training and driving several champion horses for more than half a century.

Colin has taken over the reins and developed his own legacy as one of the sport’s best owners, trainers, drivers and administrator and in 2011 was awarded a Harness Racing NSW Living Legend award.

He twice won one of Fairfield’s premier events the Golden Easter Egg as a driver.

Mr Watts’ son Graeme still trains horses at the track daily.

For 90-year-old Colin, who lives a stone’s throw away from the track, he described it as “very disappointing” to see the track close.

The club, which stopped full-time racing on June 28, 2004, will make way for Fairfield Showground’s new sporting and cultural precinct.

“We used to have 31 meetings a year, so when the authorities stopped racing here full time it was the first nail in the coffin and this is the final nail in the coffin,” said Watts, who has been on the Fairfield Harness committee for 60 years.

“I understand why council have done it . It would have been nice to be more involved in the process. We have had a great relationship with council.

“When we came here it was lot of bush and in conjunction with council we have seen a lot of facilities built like the grandstand and lights and we helped establish the markets.

“The end of Fairfield is a sad loss to the industry.”

Mr Watts is hopeful of a big crowd to farewell what he calls the “best half-mile track in NSW” on Monday, June 12.


http://www.fairfieldchampion.com.au/story/4708403/end-of-an-era-fairfield-harness-racing-to-hold-last-meeting-on-june-12/

(some wonderful black and white photos inside a link in the story)




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« 2017-Jun-12, 06:37 PM Reply #39 »
I was going to ask CJ whether the "Watts" he named was JD (Jack) or Colin.

I seem to recall JD (Jack) drove into his 70s.

But deleted my post as the subject is really on the wrong thread. :embarrassed:

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« 2017-Jun-12, 06:47 PM Reply #40 »
I was refering to Colin Watts. Thanks PP that was interesting.

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« 2017-Jun-12, 10:56 PM Reply #41 »

But deleted my post as the subject is really on the wrong thread. :embarrassed:

It probably is Geoff, bit the lack of interest in the 2017 Brisbane Winter carnival has been so low who cares if we chat about Fairfield for a few posts  :what:

I'm wondering what has happened to what was once probably one of the best half dozen racing weekends of the year?

Has the Magic Millions carnival, backed by the big money of Gerry Harvey and the NSW and larger Victorian studs supplanted the Brisbane Racing carnival as the major meeting in Queensland?

I just thought everything was down this year with so many negatives:

- There were far fewer New Zealanders than in past years
- I thought the NSW representation was down a little bit.
- The Eagle Farm "problem" is obviously a negative
- Generally the morale seems at rock bottom
- The mainstream media coverage as far as I could see was way down.

And on another thread Arsenal is reporting that there appears to be a huge outstanding superannuation bill. That would be the very last think I'd think would be needed.

You look back at the past winners of the great races like the Stradbroke, Derby and Oaks and some of the names in there are the cream of Australian racing history.

I don't mean to be unkind to the winners of this year's group 1 races but apart from Egg Tart there doesn't seem to be the depth of past decades.

The NSW TAB held $540k in the win pool for the Stradbroke. They held only $249k on the G1 JJ Atkins which was only slightly ahead of what they held on the last race on a Heavy 10 Randwick program ($239k) decimated by scratchings.

The promotion seems to have fallen off a cliff.

I acknowledge that the late transfer to Doomben would have exacerbated any problems.

Where to from here???

They need  Minister with the courage to get rid of the politicization and concentrate on the operations for a while until everything is straightened out. All hands on deck. That is a very superficial solution and there is a lot of work required in between the words but you need someone to turn around the negativity and start moving in a positive direction.

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« 2017-Jun-13, 02:33 PM Reply #42 »
I couldn't give a  :censored:  about Fairfield but I should think the blokes at Ipswich might be getting worried.
I live not far from Ipswich and we have had plenty of rain and it is still coming down now.

That meeting is great so hope it clears up soon

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« 2017-Jun-13, 04:55 PM Reply #43 »
Have they cleaned up the meeting Grats?

Wasn't it plagued by problems in the past as it was treated as massive piss up / free for all?

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« 2017-Jun-13, 05:03 PM Reply #44 »
100 per cent correct. The donkeys who run the Ipswich club have turned it into just a huge piss up. Unfortunately the poor old coppers and the emergency services will have to deal with the usual dregs around Ipswich on Saturday night.

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« 2017-Jun-13, 05:08 PM Reply #45 »
By all reports there is still some problems with drunks but plenty of security to handle things.
Still very popular. They say Doomben had 14,000 last week with Ipswich having already sold more tickets than that.
Not a place I suppose for people in their twilight years but raises heaps for the club . Therefore hope the weather is OK

This Saturday is my 70th birthday and we are toying with going to Kilcoy races. Again the weather will be the deciding factor

Like the Black Knight Qld racing is badly wounded but still fighting on.

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« 2017-Jun-13, 07:55 PM Reply #46 »
You are far more accepting than me Devil. Whether you are 70 or 7 I believe that Race Clubs who have been granted a licence  to race under the Racing Act have a duty to permit and cater for all patrons irrespective of their age. It is crap to say they will have security on course. Most of the real damage is done after the races when the half wits depart the course and go searching for other venues to be a pain in the backside to other patrons of other establishments. Bet you wouldn't want to celebrate your birthday at Brothers Leagues Club in Ipswich on Saturday night. Interesting that the current mayor of Ipswich is on the Committee of the Race Club. Wonder if he drops in late Saturday night to the Casualty ward of Ipswich Hospital . Maybe he should  ; I will guarantee that he will meet quite a few of the afternoon racing patrons.

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« 2017-Jun-14, 04:42 AM Reply #47 »
Agree Dean.
A little of topic but Exhibition Wed with the BRC is a disgrace also.
Good money spinner for the club but does that justify what the neighbours have to put up with after the last race.
Re Ipswich. John Barber ,a old Rugby League man, once said that Ipswich is not the end of the world but you can see it from there.
Re Pisasale. How funny was his act the other day when he turned up in his PJs? 


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« 2017-Jun-14, 06:23 PM Reply #48 »
This Saturday is my 70th birthday and we are toying with going to Kilcoy races. Again the weather will be the deciding factor

Happy B'Day for Saturday Grats  :hbd:

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« 2017-Jun-14, 07:18 PM Reply #49 »
Happy B'Day for Saturday Grats  :hbd:
Thanks mate.


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