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Offline PoisonPen7

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O.P. « 2018-May-02, 12:48 AM »
Race 8 - 3:50PM KIRIN DOOMBEN 10,000 (1200 METRES)

Of $700,000.1st $427,000, 2nd $143,500, 3rd $73,500, 4th $35,000, 5th $21,000

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Standard Weight for Age, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 1x1111x212 REDZEL Peter & Paul Snowden Kerrin McEvoy 6 58.5kg
2 43341x23x1 IMPENDING James Cummings Damian Browne 9 58.5kg
3 02x250x742 LE ROMAIN Kris Lees Glyn Schofield 13 58.5kg
4 2211x1112x CARE TO THINK Matthew Dunn Jeff Lloyd 12 58.5kg
5 0x641241x2 MOST IMPORTANT Tony Gollan Jim Byrne 5 58.5kg
6 x290x2860x SPIETH (NZ) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Craig Williams 10 58.5kg
7 411x1170x4 MONSIEUR GUSTAVE Darryl Hansen Tiffani Brooker 4 58.5kg
8 115330x371 BURNING PASSION Mark Newnham Michael Cahill 7 58.5kg
9 06x13x1402 THRONUM David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Mark Zahra 3 58.5kg
10 5x6001056x LUCKY HUSSLER Darren Weir Ben Allen(a) 1 58.5kg
11 70600x8555 THE MISSION Paul Perry James Orman 11 57kg
12 523x112x13 IN HER TIME Benjamin Smith Corey Brown 8 56.5kg
13 6x4269x526 ENGLISH Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Tim Clark 2 56.5kg
14 5x3179x316 HOUTZEN Toby Edmonds Regan Bayliss 14 55kg
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« 2018-May-02, 12:49 AM Reply #1 »
The 3 topweights in the Wangoom Handicap are all nommed.

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« 2018-May-02, 01:03 PM Reply #2 »
Was changed to 1200 last year PP.

Basically replaces the old BTC Cup.

The Kingsford Smith 2 weeks later would ,if the track was available, be raced at Eagle Farm at 1300.

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« 2018-May-03, 06:18 AM Reply #3 »
Was changed to 1200 last year PP.

Basically replaces the old BTC Cup.

The Kingsford Smith 2 weeks later would ,if the track was available, be raced at Eagle Farm at 1300.

Stud Book has it as 1350m last year but you are correct sobig - Redzel won over 1200m.

When you look at the winners since the turn of the century the Doomben 10,000 is probably right up there with the best sprints in Australia - have no problem with them running it over 1200m.

Year    Winner    Race Name That Year    Status    Distance
2017    Redzel (AUS) 2012   BRC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2016   Music Magnate (NZ) 2011   BRC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2015   Boban (AUS) 2009   BRC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2014   Spirit Of Boom (AUS) 2007   BRC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2013   Epaulette (AUS) 2009   BRC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2012   Sea Siren (AUS) 2008   BRC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2011   Beaded (AUS) 2005   BRC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2010   Hot Danish (AUS) 2003   BRC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2009   Apache Cat (AUS) 2002   BTC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2008   Apache Cat (AUS) 2002   BTC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2007   Takeover Target (AUS) 1999   BTC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2006   Undue (AUS) 2001   BTC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2005   Red Oog (AUS) 1999   BTC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2004   Super Elegant (AUS) 1997   BTC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2003   Bel Esprit (AUS) 1999   BTC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2002   Falvelon (AUS) 1996   BTC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2001   Falvelon (AUS) 1996   BTC Treasury Casino "10 000"   Group 1   1350m
2000   Mr. Innocent (AUS) 1995   BTC Doomben "10 000"   Group 1   1350m


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« 2018-May-04, 05:42 AM Reply #4 »
Whats the "10.000" stand for ?  :chin:
The crowd they get ? The Beers per hour they sell ?  :beer:
Just wondering  :thumbsup:

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« 2018-May-04, 08:50 AM Reply #5 »
 The 10,000 pounds prize money when the race was established in 1947 replacing the former straight six Doomben Newmarket
http://www.queenslandhistoryofracing.com.au/races/doomben-10000/

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« 2018-May-04, 08:59 AM Reply #6 »
I'm pretty sure all those 7f references in the article I quoted should be 7 furlongs less 63 yards.  (And between 1942 and 1945 the race was run on the sand at Albion Park-the Creek.)

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« 2018-May-04, 08:24 PM Reply #7 »
Peter Pring in his Book 'Major Australian races....' notes that prior to 1973 the 10,000 was 7f less 68 yds and prior to 1964 it was 7f less 93 yards.'  I seem to recall the race was started by John Wren (I understand he controlled Albion Park at one stage).  John Wren is a very controversial figure in Melbourne history and his Wikipedia page has very little information about him.   The fictionalized book about him was subject to legal action against the author and there is an ABC television series about him.  The ASB had the 10,000 starting in 1946.  I believe t was originally the 'T M Ahern Memorial Hcp'  The 2015/2016 Millers Guide has it starting in 1933 noting that it was run at Albion Park 1942/1945.  I have looked at this many years ago but can't find my 'file'.  PS I wouldn't trust the ASB online info as its pretty easy to find mistakes.  If the ARB are going to go back and create retrospective Group 1's out of ASB online info it might be a bit dodgy.  PS I am available to help the ARB on their quest to create retrospective group 1 races for the bargain fee of $5,000 a week. PS does anyone know what the ARB are paying their consultants - I can see a couple of million being spent depending on the scope of their brief.

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« 2018-May-04, 10:30 PM Reply #8 »
It was of course the T M Ahern Memorial in its early days. I think it was then known as the Doomben Newmarket and run on the old straight course at Doomben .Pretty sure the straight course was lost after the War and the race then became known as the Doomben 10,000 run over what was known as the "short seven". It was a short seven because anyone who has been to Doomben knows that their isn't much room behind the gates and the adjoining Nudgee Road. Maybe it was called the "10,000" when the prize money went to 10,000 pounds. I was looking at a race book from the 1976 version where the 10,000 part was listed in italics because the prize money had blossomed to $ 75000. Funny how things have changed. Of the nineteen runners only four carried more than 52kg and only one (Ima Shadow ) carried more than 53 kg. Apparently it was run on the straight course from 1933-1941. From 1942-45 it was run over 7 furlongs at Albion Park. After that it was run at Doomben at a distance of 7 furlongs less 93 yards. Interesting to look back at the records and see Bernborough carried 10 stone 5 when he was successful. Must have been a freak.

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« 2018-May-06, 10:33 AM Reply #9 »
I recall the straight course was resumed  to be part of the old Brisbane Airport........ Bernborough was a freak won both 10,000 and the Cup the following week 1946 I think.
Albion Park distance was 7 Furlongs Fifty-Four yards.
Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2018-May-11, 04:50 AM Reply #10 »
Race 8 - 3:50PM KIRIN DOOMBEN 10,000 (1200 METRES)

Of $700,000.1st $427,000, 2nd $143,500, 3rd $73,500, 4th $35,000, 5th $21,000

GROUP 1

Standard Weight for Age, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 1x1111x212 REDZEL Peter & Paul Snowden Kerrin McEvoy 6 58.5kg
2 43341x23x1 IMPENDING James Cummings Damian Browne 9 58.5kg
3 02x250x742 LE ROMAIN Kris Lees Glyn Schofield 13 58.5kg
4 2211x1112x CARE TO THINK Matthew Dunn Jeff Lloyd 12 58.5kg
5 0x641241x2 MOST IMPORTANT Tony Gollan Jim Byrne 5 58.5kg
6 x290x2860x SPIETH (NZ) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Craig Williams 10 58.5kg
7 411x1170x4 MONSIEUR GUSTAVE Darryl Hansen Tiffani Brooker 4 58.5kg
8 115330x371 BURNING PASSION Mark Newnham Michael Cahill 7 58.5kg
9 06x13x1402 THRONUM David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Mark Zahra 3 58.5kg
10 5x6001056x LUCKY HUSSLER Darren Weir Ben Allen(a) 1 58.5kg
11 70600x8555 THE MISSION Paul Perry James Orman 11 57kg
12 523x112x13 IN HER TIME Benjamin Smith Corey Brown 8 56.5kg
13 6x4269x526 ENGLISH Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Tim Clark 2 56.5kg
14 5x3179x316 HOUTZEN Toby Edmonds Regan Bayliss 14 55kg

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« 2018-May-11, 12:32 PM Reply #11 »
For all the doom and gloom surrounding Queensland racing since the Eagle Farm fiasco, Queensland Racing has to be very pleased with this field.
The horses who finished 2nd,3rd,4th,5th and 6th out of Sydney's  $2.5M TJ Smith Stakes are all in the field. Add to that last year's Stradbroke winner and 2 Magic Million stars.

Really good field.

I am starting to think that The Everest could even be the saviour of  Queensland's Winter Racing.
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« 2018-May-11, 06:03 PM Reply #12 »
  TIMW;  Wren actually owned  both Albion Park and Doomben, however when it became clear that Wren was in big trouble with the Tax man and needed money very quickly;  An astute legal gentleman in Queensland rounded up a number of Brisbane businessmen and they put a figure to Wren for the purchase of those tracks.  Wren accepted the sale.   
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« 2018-May-12, 04:47 AM Reply #13 »
Was I imagining things or has #11 The Mission had his 2018 service fee released  :what:

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« 2018-May-12, 04:50 AM Reply #14 »
This is the biggest certainty trifecta of all time.

1-2-12 boxed

Toss in 3 and 14 and there is your first four.  :angel:

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« 2018-May-12, 08:43 AM Reply #15 »
VF140817 DB81205F * RACE NAME ID* [ DB81205F  2018. "DOOMBEN 10,000",,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1200 mtrs]. COMPRUN 05-12-2018. AT 08:09:26 RESULT  [    13  2  3  1   ~   6   4              ]

VF140817 DB81205F * SPD ORD TABNO [    2    3    8    4   14    1    9   11    5    7   12   13    6   ] T5 HI HIT. USE SPD UPTO 1450m
VF140817 DB81205F * SPD RATNG ORD [  1000  1000  1000  990  990  980  980  980  960  960  960  960  920  ] /1. IN SPEED ORDER


  *  THE COMPUTER MAKES A FIRST STAB AT THE FIRST FOUR:-

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* HORSE NOS [  11  7  9 ]%VAL HILOW. !SELN $20 # 7 NOW! @$51 <<GW1+  [ 1 13 2 14 11 ]*
 *BOX7F4 KSN[  3  8  1  2  11  14  4 <: 12 <: ]BASE DPLGWP[ 1  4  5  11  12  13 ]*LRWD= 1  2  4  12  8  14]
 *DUBL ROV BNKR [  3  8     ___  ] X [  1  2  8  14  T4FVS[  1 12 2 3 ]. LR7DS=[  ! NONE ! ]
 *TRPL ROV BNKR [  3  8   0] X [ *I/CCL= 2  8  14  1  9  ]*MVRvBnk <<  SPGM  1 13 <[TLMV 12 1 4 5 13  ] +
 T3VIC$  2  8   4  4 <: 12   11  7  9 ]*. KEEP TRIPLS. * SPLRESIDS** [  1  2  4  5  8  12  13  14 ]* USE ALL!.
 * Cnts in TX2=[ #1 =9 ] #2 =7 ] #8 =7 ] #4 =6 ] #12 =6 ] #11 =5 ] #3 =4 ] #13 =4 ] #14 =4 ] #7 =3 ] #9 =3 ]  TRY to INCLD

  *STATISTICAL FACTORS SYSTEM: Uses different data to SPEED ANALYSIS.

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SF080418 DB81205W * TOP8 FACTORS. [  1 {  1 by  3.2 Lnths. VAR'N 1.  BUT? IS  BET?%V? }. 12  8  14  4  6  3  2  9  ] *TOP6* Best. [ + *SpicyCrshd* [    ] [    ] ] CHK WTs.NO 1  0kg. AND  NO 12  0kg.  NEGS?. ?TRK  GOOD 1200? DTL=  35 ?DDST=  0 ?WTC=  0Kg.  ?TICK?

SF080418 DB81205W * SPCL SLODS ON [  4  CARE TO TH 70ds. $1.9. << BLOW << $26.3. TRK= GOOD   8  BURNING PA 21ds. $1.6. << BLOW << $60.1. TRK= GOOD   14  HOUTZEN[91 28ds. $1. << BLOW << $27.5. TRK= GOOD  ] DBLCHK RUFF4$ WIN

SF080418 DB81205W * BIG$ VALU$SPL [  8 ] BURNING PASSION[94] W% 25 61 FACTOR RANK=  3. @ $ 60.1 * CHECK SM<ML<AUSX +  SPEED ++ MOVES
 
SF080418 DB81205W * VALUE FLASHER [   8 BURNING PASSION[94] W% 25 61 @ $33 PLACE BET $7  14 HOUTZEN[91] W% 50 67 @ $25 E/WAY BET $7 BET NOW !.[  8 ]  Value= 108.9%  * NOTE BET VALUE FLASHERS NOW. *
  Think I will just watch?.
   That was the right decision;  but I did notice after the event that the computer had not missed  A F4 stab using Factors analysis:-
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SF080418 DB81205W * MIN. BASE F4  [  1   5   12   12   1   3   0  *SMKY= [ 9 ] *SPCY [  13   2  ] * F4 MIN BASE
 
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