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Offline arthur

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« 2020-Jun-20, 12:07 PM Reply #50 »
The laws of libel apply wherever you 'publish' . . including on this forum

I place a fair bit of credibility on his content . . and he has shown that he is prepared to suffer consequences





Sadly to quote a 'wise old jungle saying' : "Most of the martyrs I know are dead . ."

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« 2020-Jun-20, 12:23 PM Reply #51 »
Unfortunately with most of the stories that Archie publishes, we will never know what is true and what is false.

It is upto the reader to make up their own mind similar when we read left and right wing media articles.

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Jun-20, 06:44 PM Reply #52 »

Not a journalist............a gambler.... ........... not always 'gambling responsibly'

Astonishing stuff -----entertaining ---- defames at will.

It cannot be true............... the game would be up and never recover.

The empathy has to go with mainstream, hyper-ventilating,  racing-media 'personalities' ..... fitted with tongue-ties, blinkers, stallion chains, et al .............unable to run true to truth...........or out on their ear.

......... the constraints on the racing media make it a joke......the reckoning will be brutal.for the industry.

........I think that is what Archie reckons.

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« 2020-Jun-21, 12:24 PM Reply #53 »
Well Archie today is throwing his personal opinion of JMac with the stewards inquiry into his ride on Threeod at Randwick yesterday.

Racenet had below too.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/mcdonald-questioned-over-half-hearted--randwick-ride-20200620

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« 2020-Jun-21, 09:18 PM Reply #54 »

Is Archie is in protective custody -- or is he a known joker

....entertaining ..... no substance... unless,  ... as never happens...... stewards properly investigate.

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« 2020-Jun-22, 07:54 AM Reply #55 »


A more professional predecessor: Roelof Smilde....... professional punter... et al

In the mid 1990s, as the way opened for a 'punters rep' at RacingNSW, Roelof was an intriguing contender with a most interesting background (see below).

This extract from the SMH obituary covers his racing interests -- a link to the fuller obituary follows.

From the late '60s, Smilde joined with a small group of other serious punters to systematically record and analyse information to set their own odds. If the odds offered on horses were better than their own, they laid a bet.

The system proved successful and for Smilde, it became equivalent to a full-time job, allowing him to give up all work other than racing. As times became less conservative, Smilde became more activist, supporting and bankrolling many initiatives including underground publications that exposed corruption in politics, the judiciary and racing.

By the early '80s, the systematic punting approach was becoming less successful as it became clear that race-fixing was to blame. Smilde was outraged that his ability to turn an honest buck without having to be servile to bosses was being stymied.

He dedicated himself to campaigning against those he saw as corrupt, using research, lobbying and assisting investigative journalists to expose the problem. He developed a dossier of 200 cases, which was presented to Australian Jockey Club stewards.


.......... needless to say.........the stewards dismissed his documented allegations ..... every one


https://www.smh.com.au/national/roelof-smilde-member-of-sydney-push-professional-punter-and-bridge-master-20170606-gwlb78.html

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« 2020-Jul-30, 03:54 PM Reply #56 »
Archie is absolutely on fire at the moment.....it's fearless stuff.

Blowing the lid on the cheats, naming the gear, how it's administered and how it works......all power to him.
Obviously getting his information from good sources.
Can't have his assessment of J Mac as a cheat but it's a good read each morning.

Little hint the other day that he might go up behind a paywall.......how much do you have in mind Archie?
« Last Edit: 2020-Jul-30, 05:40 PM by nemisis »

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Jul-30, 05:42 PM Reply #57 »


The stewards wont pay to read it


                                          .......... they would only pay to stop it.

...............that is the problem........unless it is freely out in the open .....the stewards will ignore commentary that exposes their incompetence.

There was supposed to be a government program to reward whistle-blowers........... blowing the whistle cannot be privately funded ............  the racing-media establishment, that should be investigating and reporting such misbehavior,  is so compromised by contractual obligations to stay quiet,  that any suggestion of 'fearless independence' has no credibility.

The butterfly is credibly exposing the incompetence of racing administration -- he should be employed by NineMedia .....and given free rein .............consistent with their claimed 'always independent'.


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« 2020-Aug-31, 05:50 PM Reply #58 »


..............what the butterfly says....is everybody's business

Surely the stewards and racing administrators, as well as many others, take the feed from Archie Butterfly.

Hopefully a lot of it is a bit over the top but some is so clearly right on the money that the racing authorities should be seeking to lift their game in matching his simple competence in finding race fixing.

One of the issues he identifies is the tactic of 'getting one ready' for a first up kill and smoking it in under the radar ........ one leading trainer, known for not doing it, does it regularly with astonishing success.

................ and this is racing's main integrity issue .......... pulling such stunts .....and taking most punters to the cleaners  .............is considered the pinnacle of trainer success ............. all entirely 'legal'.

..............and then people wonder about those taken for a ride trying to get their own back.


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« 2020-Aug-31, 06:34 PM Reply #59 »
REeally flies under the radar.

So much so that the 3 he mentions today were 1.50, 1.70 and 3.00 having shown excellent form at trials,

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« 2020-Aug-31, 08:40 PM Reply #60 »


 .............. do not tell me punters are capable of learning ... MN race outcomes say 'no'.

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« 2020-Sep-01, 10:24 AM Reply #61 »
Hopefully the stewards watch Ride Like a Girl and Racing Stripes too, same fantasy there!

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« 2020-Sep-22, 01:38 PM Reply #62 »
Have to Pay now to read the Archie Articles!

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Sep-22, 07:05 PM Reply #63 »
Yes board, canít imagine anyone bothering to do so

Offline Arsenal

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« 2020-Sep-25, 09:26 AM Reply #64 »
Reposted to more appropriate thread
Giddy Up :beer:
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« Last Edit: 2020-Sep-25, 10:19 AM by Arsenal »

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« 2020-Oct-04, 07:18 AM Reply #65 »
Brendan Sheehan AKA Archie Butterfly is obviously a person with some mental issues.
I've seen a court document that described him as deranged, fabricates, defames without evidence etc.
The summary was pages long and read much better than his tripe.
Interesting is that all the things HE writes about others, (whistle blower, thief, liar etc) he's actually guilty of himself.
A family friend since childhood came out publicly and stated he was NEVER molested as he claims by any clergy.
What Archie (I use that term loosely as he changed it to hide from family in NZ he ripped off it seems) is he gets a whisper of somebody doing something and thinks here is a story, he then Googles info and of course Google comes up with all sorts of things. He then reads all this stuff and makes up his own "fill in the missing pieces" to make the story GREAT reading.
Some of the crap is so far from the truth it 'would make a best seller novel, oh he's talented in making a story sound so good, but 99% of is is fabricated, no evidence at all..
When he gets it into his head he actually believes his own blogging, you see he's not journalist, he never was, just a blogger.
He's tried many a court case with a monetary value at the end and lost EVERY case, you see you can't win if everything is made up or not the FULL truth.
He's now hiding up in Nth Qld away from the local Police here who he was having constant visits apparently, also it's a long way for the people he defames to come knock on his door.
I know a lot of the people he has defamed and the great lengths he has gone to make a colorful STORY, that's all they are, Stories...
Just because somebody has a positive doesn't make them a cheat, it makes it a mistake of withholding time.
Just because somebody bought something unregistered doesn't make them a cheat, go to any produce store and there are things there not registered and you wouldn't know.
But that is EXACTLY what he does, runs with something that would make eye popping reading, who cares if it's true, mainstream media doesn't care either.
Ask his family back in NZ if he's a good bloke, the answer won't be favorable to him.
Ask the people who REALLY know him and you'll get the same answer.
Note he has had his websites (blogs) in the past court ordered to be shut down... The next shutdown must be close, it will just be who will waste money doing it because he'll just start another one, although last time he was court ordered NOT to publish in any way for 2 years or a jail term was waiting, What's that tell you....

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Oct-04, 08:01 AM Reply #66 »
I suspect you're right,Jako.

There may be some basis to some stuff but most is fanciful nonsense

He needs an editor or a spell check as well🤣

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« 2020-Oct-04, 09:53 AM Reply #67 »
Can't possibly accept 99% of Archie's writing is "fabricated"....."no evidence at all"
A fair % of your own  post is fairly defaming .....Jacolanton.

All horse trainers need to take responsibility every time they needle up or 'vitamin boost'......that's where the buck stops!
Most doping products would come with how to use instructions......follow them closely and there is no evidence.
It's all about measures, timing and diuretics......and horse racing in this country endorses the use of the most potent diuretic of them all.
You would have to be mighty  "dopey" to have an EPO positive even in this day and age......and what an advantage the cheats are then gifted.
If you are that way inclined, the racing industry is a good place to ply your trade.

Here is the link to The Southern Districts' indictment against some of America's "finest and winningest trainers
Are you suggesting none of these  performance enhancers and pain blockers aren't being used here?.......no positives swabs there either!
https://cdn.pastthewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/navarro_et_al._indictment_-_usao_sig.pdf

Most sensible people, who have been watching racing a while can see what is going on right in front on their own eyes.......and can separate the truth from good stories and spin!
.......and no........I didn't subscribe!

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« 2020-Oct-04, 10:20 AM Reply #68 »

What Archie (I use that term loosely as he changed it to hide from family in NZ he ripped off it seems) is he gets a whisper of somebody doing something and thinks here is a story, he then Googles info and of course Google comes up with all sorts of things. He then reads all this stuff and makes up his own "fill in the missing pieces" to make the story GREAT reading.


Just like mainstream media and the left wing parrots that dominate social media. Quelle Surprise!!

Offline Board Odds

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« 2021-Jan-13, 10:00 PM Reply #69 »
I s there something Wrong with "The Archie Butterfly" - peterprofit.com - Site/Page??

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2021-Jan-14, 07:46 AM Reply #70 »
Yes, a while back Archie decided yo make it a profit generating website.
Youíve got to pay for it now

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« 2021-Jan-14, 08:06 AM Reply #71 »
I s there something Wrong with "The Archie Butterfly" - peterprofit.com - Site/Page??
Don't know but there was some talk on another forum...Cyclone Imogen in Nth Queensland took out Archie's Wi-fi. :shrug:

Lives up there I believe!
« Last Edit: 2021-Jan-14, 08:12 AM by nemisis »

Offline Arsenal

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« 2021-Feb-22, 09:48 AM Reply #72 »
One of my regular habits is to check the Daily Law Lists for persons I know or have known who are in court..... only the names are published with the court number and time today I noticed 

Butterfly, Archibald Jeebung 27 9:00 AM.

Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2021-Mar-14, 08:59 AM Reply #73 »
It does not pay at all to be firefighter in Qld the smoke is just way too thick to have any chance of reaching the fire.

Offline Arsenal

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« 2021-Mar-23, 09:42 AM Reply #74 »
The daily court list has Archie aka  Archibald Jeebung Butterfly before the court again today at 9am possibly he and others will  be waiting a while as there are quite a few names listed to appear before the learned magistrate presiding over defendants in court 18 today at 9am.....anyone trudging down to the court on foot will likely get a wet arse as it's raining very heavily here.

Giddy Up :beer: 


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