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O.P. « 2008-Nov-18, 10:10 PM »

This thread was copied from the MSN forum TNHRCF and started by Dubbledee (DD)

    
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From: dubbledee  (Original Message) Sent: 4/24/2007 6:37 PM
Have seen numerous posts of miscellaneous stuff relating to Brisbane Racing on various threads.
 
Think we need a thread set aside for such stuff.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/24/2007 6:39 PM
Well-named commodity going around at GC tomorrow.
 
Race 3 #1 ENCOSTICATED (Encosta de Lago - Tipsy Feeling)
 
Try saying that when ya drunk.
 

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From: GoJeune94 Sent: 4/24/2007 9:31 PM
That's given me a laugh - well done connections 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/25/2007 7:59 AM
Exciting radio this morning with that intrepid 4TAB newshound Steve Hewlett interviewing (in order) John Morissey, Bevan Laming and Brian Smith.  He couldn't have found three more solid blokes. Neither would give Hewlett the answers he wanted and on several occasion Hewlett could be heard wondering what to ask next.
 
Talking with Brian Smith on Scattergun's failure when odds-on, he again asked Smith for an explanation.  For what must be the tenth time, Smith told Hewlett nothing could be found on x-ray, scopes, etc.  A few minutes later, not satisfied, Hewlett had to come back "But Brian, was there some little thing there?".  "Nope" said Smith "nothing".  I wonder does Hewlett ever listen to his stuff.
 

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 4/25/2007 9:54 AM
Was it the ride on Scattergun ?
 
Or was it just a plain awful run ?
 
Whatever, he'll still be very hard to beat in a pretty weak affair on Saturday, especially as one of the three others above the limit weight won't be running.
 

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From: Delta Sent: 4/25/2007 12:06 PM
Danny J Bougoure landed a winner via the well backed commodity  ZUPTA
at Moe.
 I assume he is/was a Queenslander
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/25/2007 12:10 PM
Yes, Delta...he's a son of Doug Bougoure...who was a leading rider in Qld and trainer of Strawberry Road in his early racing years.
 

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From: vedder_69 Sent: 4/25/2007 7:47 PM
Stacked off to Brisbane after another good win
Promising three-year-old filly Stacked from the Chris Waller stable has booked a trip to Queensland after she proved too good in the Last Post Handicap (1300m) at Randwick today.
Heavily supported in betting, Stacked with Darren Beadman in the saddle firmed from $4.80 into $3.80 while the favourite Catseye Beach blew in betting to start at $2.35 after opening at a $1.95 quote.
After beginning quickly, Stacked went straight to the front and Beadman was able to dictate the speed to suit himself before kicking well clear at the top of the straight and holding a decisive margin to the post.
”She’s one of those horses that you hardly know is there,” Waller said.
”A real little professional in everything she does, a real racehorse.
”She’ll have another start in Sydney and then we’ll look for a few races in Queensland.
”We have nominated for the Oaks but we’ll take it a run at a time and see where that takes us.”
Consistent filly Crafty Belle again ran an honest race to finish second with the favourite Catseye Beach fight on for third after travelling three deep for much of the journey.
Stacked 54kg ($3.80) (D.Beadman) defeated Crafty Belle 54.5kg ($8.50) (K.O’Hara) by one and a half lengths with Catseye Beach 55kg ($2.35) (S.Miller a3) another two and a quarter lengths back in third.
The time for the 1300m was 1.21.67 with the final 600m run in 36.06.

By: Clinton Payne - Wednesday, April 25, 2007
 
 

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From: Knight1609 Sent: 4/25/2007 7:55 PM
Tell ya one thing certain trainers need to do - read the QRacing website for changed conditions and dates.
 
I've heard at least 2 Sydney trainers looking at aiming their horses at the Guineas as a Derby lead up.........bit of a problem fellas....the Derby is run 2 days before the Guineas.
 
Plus changes to the Bris Cup, O'Shea and Doomben Cup distances and TJ Smith conditions (now set weights)
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/30/2007 6:03 PM
Plenty of media and on-course discussion about the lack of metropolitan meetings on public holidays.
 
Avid racing fan Mark Oberhardt fueled the fire in today's press by pointing to the poor prizemoney, low class of runners, and running rail out 6.5 m at the Anzac Day meeting at GC.  Mark commented that he'd be interested to see the UNiTAB holds.  Well here they are, Mark:
 
25.04.06 Eagle Farm $2,575,778
 
25.04.07 Gold Coast $1,889,249
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/30/2007 6:07 PM
From: <NOBR>Knight1609</NOBR> Sent: 25/04/2007 9:55 PM
Tell ya one thing certain trainers need to do - read the QRacing website for changed conditions and dates.
 
I've heard at least 2 Sydney trainers looking at aiming their horses at the Guineas as a Derby lead up.........bit of a problem fellas....the Derby is run 2 days before the Guineas.

Knight

The Guineas and Derby arrangement was changed last year.  The Guineas attracted a field of 19 runners, the Derby a maximum field of 20 runners.
 
 

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From: GoJeune94 Sent: 4/30/2007 8:45 PM
Love the big fields they have in Brissy - pity the adminsitrators down here haven't the guts to increase field sizes
 
I was looking through some back form today and I found a race where Brawny Spirit won an open hcp down the straight in a field of 23 - that's what we want to see!!!
 

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From: MattDjebel31 Sent: 4/30/2007 8:49 PM
"pity the adminsitrators down here haven't the guts to increase field sizes"
 
How do they do it ?
 
 
It has always staggered me how nearly every Saturday Queenland fields are big, yet the prizemoney is nothing compared with Sydney ?
 

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From: GoJeune94 Sent: 4/30/2007 11:58 PM
I know!! It is truly bizarre
 
Apparently Flemington (one of the biggest tracks in Oz) now has a field limit of 16 except for the Melb Cup, Salinger and Newmarket when it goes to 24. So if you can safely run 24 down the straight for those two races why not the rest? Doomben is a lot smaller than Flemington but they're happy to run 18 horse fields on a regular basis, I don't get where the VRC are coming from 
 

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From: Grega9430 Sent: 5/1/2007 8:43 AM
   Midweek  Sat
 Brisbane  $13k  $45k
 Perth  $20k  $45k
 Melb  $24k  $56k
 Sydney  $24k  $65k


Matt, the above table shows stakes for a typical midweek or saturday race. It indicates to me part of the reason Brisbane generally has the best Saturday programs, as they don't throw it away on midweeks.

Another reason IMO is that Brisbane midweek programs can also have up to three maidens on the card. Perth has got it entirely wrong and Sydney and Melbourne program too many Midweeks.

The average Saturday field size in Brisbane is currently 12.3 versus Perth 10.0, when you pro-rata stakes you can see why it is a shame that eastern states TAB's were privatised.

 
 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/1/2007 3:05 PM
Racing appeals tribunal appointed: Fraser
The Minister for Local Government, Planning and Sport Andrew Fraser today announced the appointment of racing industry's top appeal body for another three years.
Mr Fraser said the Racing Appeals Tribunal's Chairman Leo Williams, Deputy Chairman Brockwell Miller and Member Dennis Standfield had been re-appointed.
"The Racing Appeals Tribunal is an integral part of upholding the integrity of the Queensland racing industry," Mr Fraser said.
"The Tribunal gives an independent avenue of appeal for industry participants seeking justice.
"Mr Williams and his fellow Tribunal members provide an outstanding service to the racing industry by providing a timely and cost-effective way for participants to have their case re-heard by an independent body."
A former chairman of the Rugby World Cup, Mr Williams is a solicitor of over 30 years standing and has served on the Racing Appeals Tribunal since 1992.
Mr Miller has been a solicitor for more than 23 years and served on the Tribunal in 1995-96 before being re-appointed in 2006. Mr Standfield is a solicitor of more than 30 years and has been a member of the Tribunal since 2001.
Mr Fraser said the Racing Appeals Tribunal had been appointed until 26 April 2010.
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 5/4/2007 4:17 AM
 
Thomsen plans more Brisbane winter wins
 
Sydney trainer Bob Thomsen rarely comes to Brisbane for the winter carnival without returning home with a healthy profit and he's hopeful this year will be no different.

Thomsen has come north with some great gallopers over the years including Slight Chance, Danewin, Grey Receiver, Shogun Lodge and Zinders, all of whom won at Group One level at various Brisbane winter carnivals over the past 25 years.

Slight Chance won six Group Ones during her illustrious career, Danewin won five Group Ones while Shogun Lodge saluted three times at the elite level.

Grey Receiver's best win for Thomsen was the 1982 Group One Stradbroke Hcp while Zinders won the Group One Castlemaine Stakes (1600m) at Eagle Farm in 1991.

This time, Thomsen has headed north with the highly-rated Danleigh who will take on star Toowoomba filly Gold Edition in the Listed Gold Coast Guineas (1200m) on Saturday.

Danleigh, who drew the visitor's barrier in 15, is on his second trip to Queensland after he won the Group Two Sires' Produce Stakes (1400m) last June and was runner-up to Reigning To Win in the Group One TJ Smith (1600m) the same month.

The Mujahid gelding got his revenge on Reigning To Win last start when he powered home to win the Group Three South Pacific Classic (1400m) at Randwick on April 9.

Thomsen has decided to restrict Danleigh to competing against his own age group during the Brisbane winter carnival but hasn't ruled out making a late change to his plans.

"He was placed at Group One level in the TJ Smith here last year and with some further improvement as a four-year-old he might get a chance to win a Group One," Thomsen said.

"I want to keep him to three-year-old races this winter and he won't get a chance to win a Group One while he's in Brisbane unless I switch plans.

"He's arrived safely at the Gold Coast and has settled in well. His work this week was the best he's done this preparation."

While the Cox Plate at Moonee Valley has been mentioned as the spring target for Reigning To Win, Thomsen doesn't believe Danleigh can reach those heights.

"He's only a pony and is definitely not up to the Cox Plate. No way," Thomsen said.

Thomsen has retained Sydney rider Kathy O'Hara for Danleigh in the Gold Coast Guineas and isn't concerned about running into Gold Edition.

"We've got a victory over Gold Edition. She's a very good filly and we won't be underestimating her," he said.

"I'm expecting Danleigh to run a big race."

Gold Edition, who drew barrier 10, finished second to Danleigh in last year's Sires' Produce at Eagle Farm.

The Gold Coast Guineas will be the first of two clashes between Danleigh and Gold Edition as they are set for a rematch in the Group Three BTC Classic (1350m) on May 19.

Danleigh will then run in the Listed The Conrad Treasury Brisbane Hcp (1400m) at Eagle Farm on June 2 before his main mission, the Group Two Queensland Guineas (1600m) at Eagle Farm on June 11.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/4/2007 8:22 AM
gratlog, I gotta say I find those up/down arrows distracting when look at the fields in the C-M form guide.  (Not blaming you for them.)
 
I wish they weren't there.

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From: MSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 5/4/2007 8:37 AM
dd I hate agreeing with you all the time but yes those stupid class arrows are distracting and have been shown to be not always accurate.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/4/2007 8:41 AM
Ohhhh.  You could find worse people to agree with, Mono.
 
Bet you were getting worked up over the four dog in the Wagga Gold Cup today? Shame it's scratched.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/5/2007 6:29 PM
Sad to see promising 2yo colt Congalero drop through the field at the 900m and collapse dead at GC today.
 
Owned by BTC director Graham Milligan, he was out of handy mare, Newsworks, the dam of Low Profile.
 
Condolences to all connected with the horse.

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From: MSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 5/6/2007 7:11 AM
my sentiments exactly dd.

Was awful news indeed and my heart went out to Graham and Shirley.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/6/2007 5:35 PM
Pleasing to hear media reports that Corey Brown has apparently escaped serious injury in his fall from the ill-fated Congalero.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/7/2007 12:17 PM
Racing journo Mark Oberhardt would have celebrated long into last night following the last-race win by his steed, True Diehard.  According to Mark, the horse's racing will be restricted to SC until it mends its behaviour on floats.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/7/2007 7:08 PM
Wallace inquiry adjourned again
07/05/2007 6:40 PM

An inquiry into an elevated bicarbonate level returned by one of John Wallace's horses was adjourned for the second time on Monday due to the trainer's ill health.

The inquiry was first adjourned on Friday when Wallace's lawyers said he was unable to attend for medical reasons and was set aside again until next Monday.

Wallace was asked to front stewards last month following a high bicarb (TC02) reading from three-year-old Boffa who finished seventh in a restricted race at the Gold Coast on March 31.

Boffa had a reading of 37.4 millimoles per litre of plasma which, allowing for a 1.2 discrepancy, placed him just over the permitted 36 level.

Wallace sought and gained an adjournment at the initial inquiry after he told stewards he had not had time to mount a defence.

He told chief steward Reid Sanders when the inquiry opened that he had not been thinking clearly because of personal problems and wanted extra time to seek independent advice on technical evidence relating to the blood sample.

The trainer employs six staff and has 30 horses in his stable, including super sprinter Mitanni who is the equal $4.50 second favourite with Takeover Target for Saturday's BTC Cup (1200m) the first Group One of the Queensland winter carnival.

Dual Group One winner Bentley Biscuit is the $3.50 favourite for the BTC Cup with final acceptances to be taken on Wednesday.

SourceAAP

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/10/2007 1:36 PM
While trainer John Wallace lies in a hospital bed, it's business as usual back at the ranch. 
 
Gay deceiver Gold Gold Gold grew a leg to storm home to win the 6th at EF yesterday.  The stable has numerous runners at Doomben on Saturday including high-flyer Mitanni.

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From: MSN Nicknamescorch1111 Sent: 5/10/2007 6:10 PM
Anyone know whats happened to the extra smart one Devil Inside?

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From: MSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 5/10/2007 6:18 PM
Scorch, I think it ran up the Sunshine Coast earlier in the year but cannot remember it since.
Of course with my memory that does'nt mean much.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/10/2007 6:33 PM
Didn't she win that SC race in January when the controversial 3rd vs 1st protest gave her the win?
 
I don't think she's fronted since then.
 
Will find out for you, scorch.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/11/2007 5:07 AM
Trainer Shaun Dywer is having a frustrating run with his good mare, Sunday Adieu.
 
She needs runs over a distance, and last Saturday was a barrier scratching when "kicked by another runner".  This week she's been balloted out of the Chairman's Handicap.
 
The Carnival will be over if she doesn't get a run soon.

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From: MSN Nicknamescorch1111 Sent: 5/11/2007 6:07 PM
Thanks guys, DI is pretty smart and would have thought a start over the carnival would be warrented

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/11/2007 7:02 PM
scorch
 
Devil Inside pulled a back muscle at SC in Jan.  She's back in work and going very well.

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From: MSN Nicknamescorch1111 Sent: 5/11/2007 7:30 PM
Thanks DD

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/13/2007 6:20 PM
The 2yo brother to La Montagna, Montanaro, will do his future racing as a gelding.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/15/2007 12:22 PM
Oh dear.  Last year there was strife because the winner of the 10,000 couldn't be rehandicapped for the Stradbroke (thereby getting a run) plus the fact that QTC didn't give the winner of the 10,000 automatic entry.
 
Now the 10,000 winner CAN be rehandicapped and there's strife again.
 
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
The weight of opinion
 
Chris Bassani

May 15, 2007 12:00am

SYDNEY trainer John O'Shea angrily labelled Queensland Racing's renewed handicap conditions for the Stradbroke Handicap (1400m) as "a stupid rule".

Weights for Queensland's $1 million premier race run on June 9 at Eagle Farm were released yesterday.

O'Shea was delighted with 52.5kg allotted to rising star Reigning To Win but upset the handicapper could still penalise a horse which wins a flat race worth $60,000 or more for the Stradbroke.

Conditions enable penalties to be imposed on winners of set-weight and weight-for-age races, a rarity in 150 years of racing anywhere in the world.

"This could only happen in Queensland," O'Shea said. "The art of training is to beat the handicapper if you are good enough. The point of weight-for-age races is not to get handicapped.

"This rule just encourages impropriety . . . I am gobsmacked to be honest."

Penalties aside, O'Shea's ears pricked on hearing Reigning To Win's weight.

The colt is 3½kg better off than Gold Edition at the weight-for-age scale, the latter getting what trainer Ron Maund expected in 53.5kg.

"We beat her in the Roman Consul in Sydney and had 2kg more, yes it is very enticing," O'Shea said.

Maund said it was "almost impossible" for $6 Stradbroke favourite Gold Edition to win.

"It's a tall order. After I realised no filly has carried more than 50kg to victory in recent history, it suggests her task is almost impossible," he said.

While handicapper Lester Grimmett is unlikely to re-handicap Reigning To Win if he wins the 2000m Doomben Cup, the Doomben 10,000 winner, where Gold Edition is favourite, is on close watch.

Grimmett said: "If Gold Edition won the 10,000, depending on the margin, she could get up to a one and half penalty."

Maund said: "It would be a sad day for Queensland racing if Gold Edition was muted by the handicapper.

"I'm locked into this campaign regardless, there is nowhere else to race her, I just have to take it on," he said.


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From: MSN Nicknamevedder_69 Sent: 5/15/2007 12:46 PM
I thought they just wanted the winner of the 10,000 to have automatic entry into the Stradbroke, not re-handicapped?
 
I agree with O'Shea, if you win at WFA, you should not cop a penalty.

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From: MSN NicknameGoJeune94 Sent: 5/15/2007 2:21 PM
Works for the Caulfoeld Cup, Melbourne Cup etc etc
 
They would've been better to extend the automatic entry clause as Vic has done with races like the Craiglee

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From: MSN NicknameManikato1 Sent: 5/15/2007 5:09 PM
Just a question. Why should you not be re hadicapped if you win at WFA? 3yo's are often eligible to be re-hadicapped if they win a classic (i.e. Derby winners in the M Cup, Guineas winners in the C Cup etc), so why should horses who win at WFA, particularly those who would clearly rise significantly in weight, be exempt from a penalty?

Just because we've always done it doesn't mean it's right.

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From: MSN NicknameGoJeune94 Sent: 5/15/2007 10:08 PM
The Caulfield Guineas and the VRC Derby are not run at WFA - they're run at set weights. There were clauses present that the winners of these races could automatically go into the Caul and Melb Cups respectively carrying WFA if they won (and hadn't been previously nominated, and paid a late entry fee) Now who was the last Caulfield Guineas winner to run in a Caulfield Cup? Gotta think back a bit don't you? That's why the CG is no longer an automatic qualifying race

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From: MSN NicknameManikato1 Sent: 5/16/2007 7:30 AM
GoJeune,

Doesn't change the issue - why should WFA winners be exempt from a penalty? Makes no sense to me.

BTW, that doesn't mean that winners must get a penalty, only that they can be penalised. I would much prefer WFA winners get a weight penalty to get into a race like the Stradbroke, M Cup etc rather than be exempt from a ballot.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/19/2007 7:17 PM
The Sunday Mail website offers a great service with their turn and finish pics of Brisbane races.
 
But just be aware that there are occasional errors in the horse identifications.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/20/2007 9:47 AM
It's problem of no relevance now, since RTW won't be getting a re-handicap in anything, but...
 
QRL responded to John O'Shea's criticism of the Stradbroke re-handicap options (devised by QRL). 
 
As reported in Friday's press, O'Shea said "It sends a signal they don't have a clue what they're doing."
 
QRL's comeback was that O'Shea's outburst was "short-sighted and ill-informed". QRL's Racing Services Manager asserts that the conditions are published well in advance of the carnival, and suggests that trainers would welcome the situation where contemporary form was considered.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/20/2007 9:52 AM
From QRL website. Red highlight is mine - because the assertion is false.

Queensland Racing’s Racing Services Manger, Mr Paul Brennan, today labelled the statements attributed to Sydney trainer John O’Shea, as “short sighted and ill informed”.

Brennan said: “Subsequent to the conclusion of the 2006 Queensland Winter Racing Carnival, Queensland Racing conducted a complete review of the outcomes delivered by the Carnival and the previously disjointed conditions utilised by individual Clubs.”

“As a consequence of this review Queensland Racing made a number of changes to the feature race schedule and implemented a consistent approach to all feature race conditions,” Brennan said.

These changes included the ability for the handicappers to penalise the winner of any race with prizemoney to the winner of $60,000 or more in the Stradbroke Handicap, regardless of weight conditions. 

Brennan said: “Under the previous conditions of the Stradbroke the handicappers were unable to penalise the winner of not less than 15 Set Weight races conducted between the release of weights and the running of the Stradbroke.”

“There were only four (4) races that provided the opportunity for the handicappers to allocate a penalty, those being the BTC Sprint, Premier’s Cup, Gunsynd Quality and QTC Cup.”

“I’m sure that most would remember that under the previous conditions of the Stradbroke, last year’s Doomben 10,000 winner “Undue” was denied a start.”

Listed below are the 15 races that previously provided no opportunity for a penalty:

  • Doomben Cup                             WFA   Gr1      $500,000       2020m
  • Lord Mayor’s Cup                       WFA   Gr3      $100,000       1615m           
  • Glenlogan Park Stakes              SWP   LR       $150,000       1350m
  • Doomben Roses                         SW      LR       $175,000       2020m
  • BTC Classic                                SW      Gr3      $100,000       1350m
  • Champagne Classic                   SW      Gr2      $150,000       1200m
  • Doomben 10,000                        WFA   Gr1      $650,000       1350m
  • Rough Habit Plate                       SW      Gr3      $125,000       2020m
  • Doomben Slipper                       SW      LR       $100,000       1350m
  • Queensland Oaks                       SW      Gr1      $400,000       2400m
  • Sire’s Produce                            SW      Gr2      $250,000       1400m
  • PJ O’Shea Stks                          WFA   Gr2      $250,000       2200m
  • Dane Ripper Quality                   SWP   Gr3      $200,000       1400m
  • Grand Prix                                    SWPA Gr3     $125,000       2100m
  • Daybreak Lover                          SW      LR       $100,000       1400m

 

Brennan said: “In recent years the Queensland Winter Racing Carnival has undergone a significant transformation, all changes have been made in the best interest of the Industry and these changes have alleviated previous flaws in the conditions.”

“I would expect that the connections of the majority of Stradbroke runners would prefer to be competing in the race knowing that the contemporary form of runners had been considered, rather than knowing a large number of starters had snuck into the race through the back door.” 

Queensland Racing has a long history of consulting the Industry (!!!) and whilst this was undertaken prior to the implementation of this amendment, should John (O’Shea) wish to put forward some recommendations I will be more than happy to sit down with him during his stay in Queensland,” Brennan said.

The 2007 Queensland Winter Racing Carnival Brochure was published and distributed to all Interstate and Overseas Stakeholders in January 2007.  All amended conditions were clearly highlighted within this publication to ensure that stakeholders fully understood these amendments.

QUEENSLAND Racing web news: May 18


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From: Geoff Sent: 5/20/2007 10:21 AM
 O'Shea said. "The art of training is to beat the handicapper if you are good enough
 
Really, I thought it was to train racehorses to race and beat other racehorses.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameInJapan5 Sent: 5/20/2007 10:40 AM
His comments didn't make much sense to me either Geoff.....
 
""The art of training is to beat the handicapper if you are good enough. The point of weight-for-age races is not to get handicapped.
"This rule just encourages impropriety . . . I am gobsmacked to be honest.""

I'm not sure what he's trying to say... 
That trainers should only try to win races that aren't rehandicapped?
WFA races that weren't subject to rehandicapping were (up until now) the only races in which his horses were trying?? 
Now his horses won't try in anything?? 


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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 24/05/2007 1:10 PM
What is happening in Queensland Racing on Saturday the 2nd of June ?

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 24/05/2007 1:10 PM
That is what major races are on on that date ?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 24/05/2007 1:30 PM
That is Qld Oakes day I think

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From: NineMSN NicknameInJapan5 Sent: 24/05/2007 1:36 PM
QUEENSLAND TURF CLUB LTD.
SATURDAY, 02 June 2007
 
CONRAD TREASURY QUEENSLAND OAKS DAY 
CONRAD TREASURY QUEENSLAND OAKS - GROUP 1 (Three-Year-Old - Fillies)   2400 metres
Apprentices cannot claim
Of $400,000: 1st $256,000, 2nd $80,000, 3rd $40,000, 4th $16,000, 5th $8,000
BALLOTING CONDITIONS: In the event of a ballot being required, the horses having won the least amount of prizemoney shall be eliminated first. Horses with the same prizemoney shall be balloted by lot. The winner/s of this race shall be exempt from ballot for the 2007 Queensland Derby. Nomination & Acceptance details below.
CADBURY SCHWEPPES SIRES' PRODUCE STAKES - GROUP 2 (Two-Year-Old)   1400 metres
Apprentices cannot claim
Of $250,000: 1st $160,000, 2nd $50,000, 3rd $25,000, 4th $10,000, 5th $5,000
Feature Race, Acceptance Fee $1,400 (not including GST, starters fee also applies)
BALLOTING CONDITIONS: In the event of a ballot being required, the horses having won the least amount of prizemoney shall be eliminated first. Horses with the same prizemoney shall be balloted by lot. The winner/s of this race shall be excluded from any ballot for the 2007 T.J. Smith.
P.J. O'SHEA STAKES - GROUP 2 (Weight for Age)   2200 metres
Apprentices cannot claim
Of $250,000: 1st $160,000, 2nd $50,000, 3rd $25,000, 4th $10,000, 5th $5,000
Feature Race, Acceptance Fee $1,400 (not including GST, starters fee also applies)
BALLOTING CONDITIONS: In the event of a ballot being required, the horses having won the least amount of prizemoney shall be eliminated first. Horses with the same prizemoney shall be balloted by lot.
TCL ELECTRONICS Q.T.C. CUP - GROUP 2   1300 metres
Max Hcp Wgt 60kg; Min Hcp Wgt 52kg
Apprentices cannot claim
Of $150,000: 1st $96,000, 2nd $30,000, 3rd $15,000, 4th $6,000, 5th $3,000
Feature Race, Acceptance Fee $850 (not including GST, starters fee also applies)
BALLOTING CONDITIONS: The winner/s of this race shall be excluded from ballot for the 2007 Stradbroke Handicap and Winter Stakes.
DANE RIPPER STAKES - GROUP 3 (Fillies & Mares)   1400 metres
Apprentices cannot claim
Of $200,000: 1st $128,000, 2nd $40,000, 3rd $20,000, 4th $8,000, 5th $4,000
Feature Race, Acceptance Fee $1,125 (not including GST, starters fee also applies)
CONDITIONS: Fillies & Mares which have won a race of advertised value to the winner of $80,000 or more to carry 3kg extra, of two or more such races 4kg extra. Fillies & Mares which have won a race of advertised value to the winner of $50,000 or over but less than $80,000 to carry 1kg extra; of two or more such races 2kg extra. Penalties are not cumulative. Balloting Conditions: In the event of a ballot being required horses shall be eliminated in the following order: 1. Horses which have received no weight penalty shall be eliminated according to prizemoney won. 2. Horses which have received the lowest weight penalty, and so on upwards until the field limit is reached. Horses in the same weight penalty category shall be eliminated in order of prizemoney won and horses with equal prizemoney shall be eliminated by lot.
SIR EDWARD WILLIAMS HANDICAP - LISTED   1500 metres
Apprentices cannot claim
Of $75,000: 1st $48,000, 2nd $15,000, 3rd $7,500, 4th $3,000, 5th $1,500
Feature Race, Acceptance Fee $435 (not including GST, starters fee also applies)
THE GRAND PRIX STAKES - GROUP 3 (Three-Year-Old)   2100 metres
Apprentices cannot claim
Of $125,000: 1st $80,000, 2nd $25,000, 3rd $12,500, 4th $5,000, 5th $2,500
Feature Race, Acceptance Fee $710 (not including GST, starters fee also applies)
CONDITIONS: A horse which prior to the race has not won as a three-year-old a race (not being a weight-for-age) exceeding $30,000 to the winner allowed 2.5kg. The winner of (a) any race exceeding $40,000 to the winner; or (b) any weight-for-age race after 31 December 2006 and prior to the race shall carry such additional weight (if any) as determined by the Handicapper, not exceeding 2.5kg. BALLOTING CONDITIONS: In the event of a ballot being required, it shall be conducted by ballot amongst the lower weighted horses (fillies weight to be adjusted for the purpose of the ballot by 2.5kg) with those on the same weight determined on the basis of the horses with the least amount of prizemoney won since 1 May 2006 being eliminated first.
THE CONRAD TREASURY BRISBANE - LISTED (Three-Year-Old)   1400 metres
Apprentices cannot claim
Of $100,000: 1st $64,000, 2nd $20,000, 3rd $10,000, 4th $4,000, 5th $2,000
Feature Race, Acceptance Fee $575 (not including GST, starters fee also applies)
BALLOTING CONDITIONS: In the event of a ballot being required, the horses having won the least amount of prizemoney shall be eliminated first. Horses with the same prizemoney shall be balloted by lot.
Nominations close Monday, 28 May 2007 at 11:00 AM
Weights declared Tuesday, 29 May 2007
Acceptances due Thursday, 31 May 2007 at 9:00 AM
Jockey Declarations Thursday, 31 May 2007 at 12:00 PM
Final Scratchings Saturday, 02 June 2007 at 7:30 AM
Queensland Oaks - Nomination & Acceptance Details Nominations Monday 23 April 2007 at 11.00am $220 (inc. GST) First Acceptances Wednesday 23 May 2007 at 10.00am $660 (inc. GST) First Late Nominations Wednesday 23 May 2007 at 10.00am $11,000 (inc. GST) Final Acceptances Wednesday 30 May 2007 at 10.00am $2,420 (inc. GST) Final Late Nominations Wednesday 30 May 2007 at 10.00am $22,000 (inc. GST)

 

from queenslandracing.com.au


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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 24/05/2007 1:46 PM
Thanks fellas, a great days racing by the looks of it.
 
Some of my work mates and i are going to the greyhounds at The Gardens, we have a corperate box for the day.........the only problem mixing grog and punting.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/05/2007 1:50 PM
Plenty who contribute to this forum seem to manage the combination, OK.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/05/2007 2:19 PM
Bloodstock journo Peter Howard reports in today's C-M that injury-plagued stallion BULLMORE will stand at Nick Nolan's Noralla Stud, Warwick.
 
By Danehill from Strawberry fair, and originally in the Singo/Harvey camp, the horse looked very promising in his 2yo year and came to Brisbane for the TJ Smith after a southern campaign.  But serious injury forced him out of racing and he was purchased by the Nolans for a goodly sum.  We got a glimpse of his talent when he resumed at EF last year, but he didn't ever regain his earlier form.
 
His service fee will be $4400.  Good luck to the Nolans.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 24/05/2007 2:31 PM
DD, I can not handle my grog, and my punting leaves a lot to be desired.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/05/2007 2:49 PM
Heehee, MD.  As I lie (that's repose) on my psychiatrist's couch she encourages me to identify and admit my weaknesses.  You've got past that hurdle.
 
Last night - admittedly affected by drink - I went very close to backing NSW at $2.68.  At half-time I was so angry at myself for having been a whimp I drank a bit more.  At full-time I was so pleased with myself I drank a lot more.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 27/05/2007 5:28 PM
Bryan Guy's tough campaigner MOTIVATE ran another good race yesterday after being wide from the jump.  
 
Looking at his 9th birthday, he's already had a few tries at the Royal Ipswich Cup from memory and is heading that way again.
 
Shaun Dwyer reports that talented mare SUNDAY ADIEU is off to Sydney.  Surely she's due for a bit of luck.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/05/2007 1:30 PM
La Montagna, Brisbane's wonder filly of last year, is undergoing pre-training for a possible return to the racetrack.
 
It might mean a stallion will miss out this Spring, but plenty of racegoers will be thrilled to see her back in action.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamevedder_69 Sent: 28/05/2007 3:49 PM
DD, why did connections change their mind?
 
Looking forward to her return.....

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 28/05/2007 4:01 PM

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From: NineMSN Nicknamescorch1111 Sent: 28/05/2007 11:14 PM
Touch wood she makes it back to the track.... a few on here have a soft spot for her.... funny with the Stradbroke coming up what a timely reminder of her at her absolute best...    better start saving the schillings for her again too

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From: dubbledee Sent: 31/05/2007 9:27 PM
John Wallace has lost his appeal against the outcome of the TCO2 charge.

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From: Delta Sent: 1/06/2007 10:46 PM
I notice that Dwyer has 3 in at Rosehill tomorrow - Any chance that he would be testing the waters for a permanent move South?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/06/2007 11:42 AM
Good news that Lasoron is apparently back to normal after her misfortune in Saturday's Oaks.  Let's hope she's on track for a Guineas run.
 
More on La Montagna...she galloped last week and all seems OK.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 5/06/2007 11:55 AM
DD, any idea why Beadman pulled Lasoron up?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/06/2007 12:03 PM
gratlog...seems he felt she was sore in the off fore.  When he brought her back to the enclosure, she seemed to be moving OK to my amateur eye.  I didn't get close to her or get any further info.  Was a shame for connections and punters.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 11/06/2007 7:54 PM
Discussion piece ?
 
Doomben Cup falters in class
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  Story by Gary Crispe  
 
 



Monday, 21 May 2007: The last couple of years has seen the Group One Doomben Cup (2020m) struggle to establish itself as a genuine weight for age contest over a classic distance.

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Doomben Cup winner Cinque Cento
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It could be the timing of the race, where it is an after thought for the better class gallopers coming off a tough Sydney Autumn campaign looking for a soft kill but form wise they are over the top, such was the case on Saturday with Desert War or it could be we just don’t have the depth of true weight for age gallopers at that distance to go around any more.

What ever it is, this race is one that should be coming under the microscope by the Grading Committee to seriously look at for downgrading.

The 2007 renewal was a very low rating race, in fact several pounds below the five year average, largely due to Desert War and Reigning To Win performing well below their best.

With those gallopers out of the equation, the race was wide open and consistent mare Cinque Cento prevailed in a close finish over NZ mare Gaze with handicapper Pentathon a close third.

Grand Zulu who has not won a race for over three years was a length away in fourth place but a more telling statistic is the fact ten of the eleven runners all finished within five lengths of the winner.

Cinque Cento posted a new master Timeform rating of 111, up a pound form her previous best but at that level she is the lowest Timeform rating winner of the race in more than 15 years.

The race will probably prove a reliable guide to the Group Two Brisbane Cup now run over 2400m under handicap conditions than anything else, but as a true 2000m weight for age contest it was sadly lacking.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/06/2007 4:43 PM
One of Brisbane's gay deceivers, SIR SUCCESS, "bled" in the second yesterday at Royal Ipswich.  He's out for 3 months.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/06/2007 5:01 PM
Anyone know the background to SC trainer Natalie Hole?

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 17/06/2007 5:23 PM
Never heard of her, dd. 
 
She's now got Messaien, of whom she's a part owner, as well as a few from Bruce Ruming, who owns a breaking and agistment joint on the Sunshine Coast named "Jacaranda" something or other. He used to train them himself.
 
She's only just kicked off - up until last week, she'd had 3 runners.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/06/2007 5:40 PM
Hmm, OK.  Thanks j.r.b.

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From: MagiC** Sent: 17/06/2007 9:02 PM
Natilie Hole , formerly Natalie McCall, recently married and has worked mostly for her father riding trackwork and assisting in training.
 
Has taken out her trainers licsence to take over from Bruce rumming

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From: MagiC** Sent: 17/06/2007 9:03 PM
Sorry , forgot to mention the obvious that she is Ray McCalls daughter  

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/06/2007 9:07 PM
Ahhh, OK.  Thanks Magic.  Have had a few chats with her when Messiaen and his half-brother were racing..  Nice lady.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/06/2007 9:11 PM
The penny just dropped.  Messian's half was named COLE Trickle.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGrega9430 Sent: 18/06/2007 9:17 AM
Storm Signal has drawn barrier 1 at each of her last three starts, in fields of 20,20 and 18. She has also run 3rd on each occasion.

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 18/06/2007 10:54 AM
She won one of them.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGrega9430 Sent: 18/06/2007 1:14 PM
So she should have with them draws.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/06/2007 5:11 PM
 know the Smith/Waterhouse team has had numerous runners in Sydney races over the years, and the Hayes stable regularly swamps the field in SA, but I reckon this is some sort of a record.
 
5-2.15 LAMBERT LOCATIONS CLASS 4 HANDICAP 1200 M
Of $10000 Of $10000. 1st $6500, 2nd $2000, 3rd $1000, 4th $500. CLASS 4. Apprentices can claim. Field Limit: 13+5 EM
No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barr Wgt Pen
1 GRAND LADDIE Alan Bailey C Whiteley 11   59
2 ROYAL OPERA Gillian Heinrich 1   58.5
3 DAILY ISSUE Gillian Heinrich T Treichel 3   56
4 SCENIC RULE Gillian Heinrich Michael Palmer (a2) 5   55
5 HE'S A HARRY Andrew Cowell D Peisley (a1.5) 13   54.5
6 WOKANDI Ted Ainsworth D Tanti 4   54.5
7 COQUITO ROSE Matt Kropp 12   54
8 BEAUTIFUL EYES Gavin Logan N Day 2   54
9 INSISTENCE Gillian Heinrich 9   54
10 SHANTREUSSE Gillian Heinrich 6   54
11 IMPETUS Gillian Heinrich 7   54
12 SMASH 'N' GRAB Carmel Richardson M Hackett (a3) 8   54
13 MARQ TIME Trent Greentree C Franklin 10   54

Gillian Heinrich has 6 of the 13 acceptors in GC Race 5 on Saturday.  And all but one drew an odd-numbered alley.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/06/2007 10:41 AM
Sad to learn that last year's Tatt's Cup winner, RING OF FIRE, has had to be put down after breaking a shoulder in light exercise at Eagle Farm.
 
RIP Ring of Fire.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/06/2007 10:55 AM
Plenty on this forum had a soft spot for Rex Lipp's Sequalo mare, STAR SHIRAZ.  She won the QTC Sires and was a tragedy beaten in the T J Smith behind Outback Prince.
 
She had minor injury problems earlier in the year and was recently sold for $1.125 million. Coolmore bought her, I think.

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From: NineMSN NicknameManikato Sent: 23/06/2007 10:13 PM
Another great days racing at Eagle Farm.

The rail in the straight was not the place to be which made Roman Squires win in the last all the more remarkable!




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From: MagiC** Sent: 23/06/2007 10:24 PM
Is he another Bikkie Tin Blues maybe ?
 
B Pengally has got a knack of getting these horse's to hit the line from a long way back!

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From: NineMSN NicknameManikato Sent: 23/06/2007 11:42 PM
Not sure about the BTB similarities but Brad Pengelly definately rides extremely well.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/06/2007 1:24 PM
Nova Star's younger sister, OVASIA, goes around in R2 at Caloundra today.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/06/2007 3:10 PM
Lisa Cropp was succesful in her appeal to the First Level Appeal Committee following her 3 months suspension following the Brisbane Cup.  However, QR Stewards are now appealing to the higher-level Racing Appeals' Tribunal.
 
Shane Scriven lost his appeal following suspension, and is now appealing to the RAT.  He will ride at Calounda on a "stay".

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 25/06/2007 3:32 PM
Have not seen the Stewards Reports but does anyone know what happened to the roughie BIG KEA in Race 2 - appeared to be travelling well in the first half of the field near the rail till about the 1000m then started madly throwing its head about and went backwards from there and ultimately finished at the tail of the field.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/06/2007 3:35 PM
I dunno what happened to him, coins.  I tipped him to win the race, and was happy when he settled.  Next thing Taylor seemed to lose control of the horse when the speed slowed and he was out on a limb, pulling, the rest of the race.  I'd say something happened to the steering.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/06/2007 3:42 PM
From the Stewards' Report:
 
Passing the 1300m BIG KEA (J. Taylor) commenced to hang out and did so for the remainder of the event. A post-race veterinary examination of BIG KEA failed to reveal any abnormalities. Trainer G. Hatch was advised that BIG KEA must perform satisfactorily in an official barrier trial before its next start.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 25/06/2007 4:13 PM
Maybe he will keep for another day. Thanks dubbledee.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 27/06/2007 9:15 AM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Wadham Park complex sold
by Tony Meany

QUEENSLAND businessman Phil Sullivan yesterday confirmed he was buying showpiece training complex Wadham Park at Canungra in the Gold Coast hinterland.

Sullivan runs the City Pacific finance company but plans to centralise his racing interests with the purchase of the property, believed to be worth $15 million.

Sullivan takes the controlling share in the property that was developed by former Toll Transport boss Peter Rowsthorn.

"I have about 10 horses in training and they will be transferred to Canungra," Sullivan said.

"The property is under contract and should be completed next month. Obviously it can support a bigger sting but I have had any number of inquiries from people with bigger stings to go there.

"I am a businessman and this looked a good buy. I also have about 15 breeding stock."

Rowsthorn and his trainer Dale Sutton have developed another property just outside Melbourne and will shift base camp.

Sutton last year made international headlines when he bought Irish Derby winner Grey Swallow from Dermot Weld and trained him for the Cox Plate.

Grey Swallow cost $6 million and has not appeared since he ran a distant last to Fields Of Omagh in the Cox Plate.

Rowsthorn is believed to have spent more than $60 million setting up the Wadham Park training complex and stocking it.

The shift of the Sutton stable from Canungra to Victoria will be completed next month.

Sullivan will install David Kelly as the new trainer at Canungra and he knows the property like the back of his hand.

"It is a magnificent set-up," Kelly said. "I trained there for six months and prepared 35 winners. Then I took a job at the sister Wadham Park property in Victoria.

"Canungra has a 2000m grass track with a 600m straight and an uphill finish. There is also a 2000m artificial track."


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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/06/2007 2:07 PM
Next Saturday's QTC Queensland Cup (3200 m) will carry the name of The Queen's Cup, which rotates through the States.
 
It carries Group 3 status.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/06/2007 3:10 PM
Surprised at the good odds bet about Shaun Dywer's classy mare Sunday Adieu, today.  Up to $2.90 was matched on Betfair.  For a horse beaten just 5 lengths in a Doomben Cup, that was lucrative.
 
Was a heady ride by Beasley, too.
 
She'll now probably head for a spell to be readied for the Spring.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/07/2007 12:05 PM

From today's The Courier-Mail:

Top rider Damien Oliver yesterday lost an appeal to the Racing Appeal Tribunal against a suspension and fine imposed for a careless-riding charge from the Queensland Derby at Eagle Farm on June 9.

Oliver will now serve the nine-meeting sentence and pay the $5000 fine for causing interference on Derby winner Empires Choice.

He will be clear to resume riding on July 20. The Sir John Monash Stakes is run at Caulfield on that day.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/07/2007 12:31 PM
Interesting to note that the former John Wallace mare COUNTESS BATHORY is now in the Maryann Thexton stable.  Maybe she was sold of late????

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/07/2007 5:56 PM
Another interesting stable change... 
 
Smart filly Princess Norma now in the hands of premiership leader Bryan Guy.

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From: NineMSN NicknameManikato Sent: 5/07/2007 8:44 PM
Have always like Countess Bathory being a Dracula & have backed her many times.

She ceratinly hasn't performed like she did this time last year when she put 2 wins together at 21/1 & 10/1. Had her both times but have been giving it back ever since.

As a 6yr old mare it might be all past her ,but a change is as good as a holiday. Hopefully Maryann can get a couple more wins from her!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/07/2007 9:46 PM
Well good luck with her, Manikato.  She knocked me out of a big quaddie on a wet track at Caloundra some time back and I've never forgiven her.
 
Pleasing to see Eddie Wilkinson down to resume riding at Eagle Farm on Saturday.  He can hold his own in the best of company.  Let's hope he has a successful comeback.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamescorch1111 Sent: 5/07/2007 10:14 PM
Good to see the speedster back on 777 day.... Devil Inside...any progress updates would be great

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/07/2007 10:20 PM
Yes, scorch it is.  She's a great chance.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/07/2007 10:55 AM
Jack Honey, the doyen of Brisbane "commission agents", died on Wednesday, aged 91.
 
One of the more famous plunges engineered by the likeable Jack was on Divide and Rule in the Stradbroke.
 
Vale, Jack Honey.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/07/2007 4:20 PM
3yo HETHEL who ran 3rd in the 2nd race at Ipswich today and paid $26.10 the place is a full brother to last week's Glasshouse winner, HARD TO CATCH.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/07/2007 4:05 PM
Satisfactory return by speedster Devil Inside on Saturday.  Making the pace, and humping some pudding, she was left exposed to the back-markers.  Sir Monashee was a different horse to the one that turned it up early at Ipswich three weeks ago.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/07/2007 11:38 PM
Pleasing to see Mandy Radecker coming back to riding at EF on Wednesday.
 
I guess the time has flown for us, but seems like she's made a quick recovery from a none-too-minor injury.

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From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
It's Adieu for now
by Bart Sinclair

ANOTHER win to the in-form Sunday Adieu in the Grafton Cup on Thursday will not earn her a spring carnival opportunity.

Trainer Shaun Dwyer is steadfast in his resolve to give Sunday Adieu the spring in the paddock to set her for a big calendar in 2008.

Sunday Adieu is likely to be the favourite for the $160,000 cup over 2400m on the back of her two most convincing wins in successive starts at Randwick and the Kensington track.

Dwyer is extremely confident about another victory at Grafton but he won't be present. He's off on a family holiday to New Zealand this week.

"I'll be disappointed if she doesn't win with ordinary luck in running," Dwyer said.

"Danny Beasley rode her in work on Saturday morning and is adamant she has improved again.

"While I expect her to win I still feel, even as a rising five-year-old, she isn't mature enough yet to go to the level needed for the big races in the spring.

"That's for next year.

"My plan is to give her a couple of months off and then about six runs in the autumn, another break next winter and then head to the Melbourne Cup."

Dwyer has had only one Grafton Cup starter previously, when he won the race with Pacific Dancer in 2004 and then headed to the spring where the horse struggled to come up.

Trainer Brian Smith is hoping to have both Bikkie Tin Blues (Scott Seamer) and Scattergun (Ric McMahon) lining up in the cup.

He is hoping for rain midweek to soften the track for Scattergun who ran his best race since April when he finished second in the Caloundra City Cup on a heavy track nine days ago.

McMahon, who has ridden Scattergun in many of his races, was bypassed for the four-year-old's last four runs when Kelvin Wharton, Bobby El-Issa, Jim Cassidy and Brad Pengelly were tried without success.

Shane Scriven's hopes of grabbing an unexpected premiership title could hinge on an appeal against a careless-riding suspension at the Racing Appeals Tribunal today.

As things stand, the jockeys title leaderboard has Glen Colless (56 wins) ahead of Jim Byrne (54) and Scriven (51).

Colless did not ride at Eagle Farm on Saturday because of a suspension and Byrne picked up a suspension of nine meetings, taking him out of action until the last meeting of the season on July 28.

Byrne is eligible to ride at Eagle Farm on Wednesday before he begins his sentence. He does have the avenue of an appeal and seeking a stay of proceedings.

There are six more metropolitan meetings before the end of the season.


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From: NineMSN Nicknamescorch1111 Sent: 11/07/2007 11:33 AM
Nasadispute is in the last today at Grafton, was very impressive 1st up at the Sunshine Coast and lets see how young Kai handles this fella 2nd up....

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/07/2007 1:57 PM
Good run again by Nasa, scorch.  Not sure the inside run suited it.
 
One of Brisbane's most consistent sprinters, Aim So High (Shinko Forest-Au Pair Girl), has been retired following a tendon injury.  He "bled" in a Sydney campaign in December, but came back for a good win at Eagle Farm on Stradbroke day. While he's sometimes shown shyness when it came to getting to the winning post, he's won $182,000 for connections in his 5 wins from 31 starts. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/07/2007 11:47 AM
Will be interesting to see how Michael Nolan's promising performer, EASILY DONE, performs in the first tomorra. 
 
The horse didn't do a lot in his earlier preps, although he looked smart when he trounced his Mdn opponents at Royal Ipswich 12 months ago.  He's won alll three runs on his home track this time in, and looks a certain city winner.  Taking on a NMWLY field tomorrow, he's found a nice draw and is claiming 3 kg for Ms A Taylor.
 
He's another of the Easy Rocking progeny doing very well of late.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 13/07/2007 11:52 AM
Be backing it if you could get that $8 from the paper.
 
I'm also a fan of young Amy Taylor and the Nolans.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/07/2007 11:56 AM
Won't be a pushover, mate.  The red dog has good NZ form (winning a G1), and ran a great race at SC.  Now owned by some of the Devil Inside people.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/07/2007 2:29 PM
In the CM's tipping chart the best the 6 "experts" could find for Easily Done is a third.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 13/07/2007 2:48 PM
I just had a look at Bart Sinclair's video on the Courier Mail site and he tipped October Sky in that race.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/07/2007 3:58 PM
Yeah, interesting runner, gratlog.  He's the imported Danehill stallion who ran 4 placings from 4 in UK last year.  Came out here and sat 6-wide for the trip to win his Mdn at Dbn on debut, then went around the outside rail at SC behind Jacaranda Leader.  Eligible for C1.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/07/2007 1:53 PM
There's a dearth of anchor-people on 4TAB at present.  I guess some are on hols but it sounds like some work-experience people have been called in. 
 
The guy giving the scratchings this morning didn't seem to understand what is, and what isn't, important.

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From: Geoff Sent: 14/07/2007 10:12 PM
Rags to Riches' win was one of the easiest I've seen for some time.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/07/2007 10:16 PM
Yeah, Geoff, he is G1 winner after all.  There wasn't a lot of talent chasing him.

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From: Geoff Sent: 14/07/2007 10:27 PM
I know, but he was still in the black and won like a 1/10 pop.
 
When they turned I thought the kid had gone to sleep. He must have known how much was in the tank. 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 15/07/2007 7:40 PM
Anybody notice the run of former Brisbane campaigner KANPEKI at the Kensington track yesterday?

Ran one of the fastest last 400m of the day. Although it found the fast pad, it was baulked by Rosecutter at a vital time in the straight, underlining the merit of the run.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/07/2007 10:49 AM
I missed the run, coins, but will take note.  She's always been a very honest mare.  I recall her running a close 3rd to the champ La Montagna in a good race at Doomben in late 2005.  She's owned by a bunch of good guys too.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/07/2007 10:50 AM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Reluctant Ryan quits Coast
 
by Bart Sinclair

TOP trainer Gerald Ryan reluctantly is giving up his fulltime stable on the Gold Coast.

Ryan, 52, is handing over his Coast operation to longtime deputy Bruce Hill to concentrate on his Rosehill stable in Sydney.

"I love Queensland and love the racing up there but it's become increasingly hard to find the time to juggle between the two stables with so many race meetings these days," Ryan said.

"For the past two years the Gold Coast stable has lost money. Rosehill has been propping up my business.

"Bruce is keen to have another go at training in his own right and most of my clients have agreed to leave the horses in the Coast stable with him.

"Bruce has been with me since I set up at the Coast over nine years ago and we have had a great association. I think he will do well on his own.

"I still intend to campaign horses in Queensland if I think they are the right types and the races suit. But they will go up in my name with my staff."

Apart from his large horse and client connection to Sydney Ryan also has family ties with his son Blake, a producer at TVN, and daughter Tai who works in the events division at the Sydney Turf Club.

Ryan has been a splendid contributor to Queensland racing in the past decade. His best wins were multiple successes in the Queensland Guineas with Saxon, Magnifier and Regent Street and the Queensland Oaks and Winter Stakes with Mon Mekki.

A virus which went through his two stables last spring has limited Ryan's opportunities but he has a strong base of young, untried horses.

"I went through my Sydney list a few weeks ago and I had 52 horses in work and 32 of them were unraced," Ryan said.

In the coming months Ryan plans to boost his Sydney numbers up close to the maximum 70 he can accommodate with his on-course stabling.

Ryan thinks there is a Magic Millions prospect in his rising two-year-old stocks. He likes the way a Danzero colt related to his Saturday Doomben winner Rapid Jacko might come up early in the new season.

Hill, also 52, is highly credentialled.

Originally from New Zealand where he began working with his father Frank at Pukekohe, Hill trained for six years but then came to Australia.

He worked for Geoff Murphy for more than six years at a time when Sovereign Red and Caulfield-Melbourne Cup winner Gurner's Lane were the flagbearers.

"I was travelling foreman for Geoff for four years and then the Melbourne foreman for another two years before he encouraged me to take out my own licence again," Hill said.

"When my biggest client died I sold my property at Mornington and moved to the Gold Coast where I worked for Greg Mance for a few months.

"Then Gerald started up and I worked for him from day one at the Gold Coast."

Hill, who has to formally gain Gold Coast Turf Club approval to train at the track, will take up a lease on Ryan's current Ascot Lodge stable complex which is owned by one of owner Les Cowell's family companies.


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Gavan Duffy is no longer training the horses he "inherited" following John Wallace's TCO2 case.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 19/07/2007 9:34 PM
"From: coinswell Sent: 6/29/2007 7:33 PM

Yes DD - liked the way YR quickened and held on - aided a little by the second horse ducking in.

Majestic Sight ran home well in the last after being yanked out very wide in the straight."

Didn't Majestic Sight win at good odds yesterday? Missed its previous start and was unable to see the race yesterday. Can anyone give me a heads up?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/07/2007 10:43 PM
coins
 
The race was run a farcical speed.  He went back to last, but didn't settle well.  The small field sprinted from the 600. I thought he was in trouble but he raced down the centre of the track to hit the lead at the 100 and win in good style.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 20/07/2007 12:44 AM
Thanks for the info dubbledee - should have BB'd him!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/07/2007 11:44 AM
Brisbane's apprentice ranks will be rejoicing at the new scale for claims from August 1.
 
  • First 20 winners 3 kg
  • Next 30 winners 2 kg
  • Next 30 winners 1.5 kg
 
At present, they lose their 1.5 kg at 60 wins.

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From: NineMSN NicknameAntitab Sent: 22/07/2007 11:55 AM
DD speaking of Brisbane apprentices, what is your opinion of A Coombe?
 
I know he is young but I think he is over hyped and pretty ordinary.
 
He is on more horses in the betting than any apprentice in memory and slaughters more than his share.He is useless in a finish even compared to that other  apprentice with a famous Dad from Sydney who looked outstanding in a finish on his first winner yesterday. .?
 
For the amount of chances he has had I reckon he is very disappointing.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/07/2007 12:41 PM
Antitab
 
I think I wrote somewhere last week that he seems to have been around for quite a while, yet still claiming 3 kg.  He's also had plenty of opportunities, in my opinion.  Plenty of trainers are happy to put him on. But they still need luck to get the winners home, e.g. Craiglea Emma.
 
I'm happy enough to back Coome, but I wouldn't see him as a future Rodd or Purton.  And I doubt you would, either.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/07/2007 12:48 PM
Further on the jockey front....
 
Talented hoop Brad Stewart is reportedly off to Mauritius on contract.
 
Bob El-issa scored two suspensions yesterday from the EF meeting.  He's out for 11 meetings.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/07/2007 9:52 AM
Peter Howard reports in today's The Courier-Mail that Ron Maund's Street Smart will be among around 160 (!!) bookings to boom Queensland sire Show A Heart this season.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/07/2007 2:37 PM
The jockeys' premiership tussle between Colless and Byrne will add to the interest in the Doomben meeting on Saturday.
 
Byrne is astern by 1 win, and has several rides for runaway premiership winner, Bryan Guy.  The gate gods have not been kind to them.
 
Race 1 Authoress 12 from 12
 
Race 2 Jad 4 from 15
 
Race 3 Burgundy Prince 13 from 15
 
Race 4 Morning Colours 11 from 17
 
Race 5 Marqualo 8 from 17
 
Race 7 Grecolo 9 from 13
 
Race 8 Guy also has Step Right In engaged in . He scored 11 from 15.  Byrne rides Consider yourself who has the green box.
 
Colless hasn't fared all that well, either.
 
Race 1 Hy Dream 1 from 12
 
Race 2 Conquering Spirit 8 from 15
 
Race 3 Nexgen 15 from 15
 
Race 4 Magical Profit 15 from 17
 
Race 5 Tour Guide 10 from 17
 
Race 6 Blood 'n' Bone 3 from 15
 
Race 7 Mr Aristos 11 from 13
 
Race 8 Our Private Jet 8 from 15
 
Will be a great contest.  Anyone wanna frame a market? 

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From: ProudKnight Sent: 26/07/2007 5:52 PM
Go Spike !

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/07/2007 11:51 PM
The damage inflicted on Brisbane's tracks during the cold and dry winter is reflected in the 7.5 metre rail placement at Doomben on Saturday.  Coins will be avoiding the back-markers, I reckon.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 27/07/2007 12:25 AM
You are an astute person dubbledee!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/07/2007 1:38 PM
Thanks for the "wrap", coins.  Have copied your post.
 
This is about harness racing....anyone who missed the win by Blacks A Fake at the Creek last night missed one of racing's magic moments.  He's a wonderful pacer, and does things that I didn't think possible.  I've seen the best of Australia's pacers, and this fellow is getting close to the top of the tree.
 
I expect the race will be repeated on Sky's "In the Gig".  Take a look.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/07/2007 11:27 AM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Lacey's riding high
by Bart Sinclair
 
WHEN she gets a fair chance Lacey Morrison is a determined young lady.

On Saturday, Morrison, 23, produced another daring and skilful ride to win the $100,000 Jupiters Townsville Cup on rising nine-year-old Legal Brief.

It was a deserved victory for Legal Brief who was third and second in the race in the past two years.

Morrison admits there have been lengthy periods of frustration since she completed her apprenticeship three years ago.

"It seems every time I was starting to get some momentum I was injured or suspended," Morrison said.

Even Morrison's northern stint with partner Greg Wehlow, Legal Brief's trainer, has been interrupted by another suspension. She only resumed on Saturday.

The cup ride was lauded by all and experienced racecaster Wayne Wilson, who was there, gave her top marks.

"It was a superb ride. Lacey managed to find the fence midrace from barrier nine so that was a top effort," Wilson said.

"Then she waited until the turn to make her move and managed to find a run between horses to give Legal Brief every chance.

"And she didn't lack anything in vigour compared to the men at the finish. It was a very polished display."

Wehlow, who moved north from his Gold Coast base with eight horses, now has a team of 22 as his focus turns to the next northern carnival in Cairns.

Last September, Morrison looked back on track when she had a very successful time at the northern carnivals culminating with victory on Legal Brief in the Cairns Amateurs Cup.

She was disqualified for two months at the Amateurs meeting on a charge of deliberately striking another rider with her whip.

That was quashed on appeal but the process distracted her from racing.

In January, Morrison had surgery to her right knee, injured when she was kicked by a horse a year ago. This time it was four months on the sideline.

When she's fit and in form Morrison is an aggressive competitor who is a much better rider than her results from the past three years might indicate.

Many believe there is unfinished business for Morrison in Brisbane.

At the metropolitan tracks where she was highly successful a few years ago she is rarely sighted any more.

Morrison is good enough to be a solid competitor in the big smoke.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 31/07/2007 4:21 PM
Sad news that handy Qld/Vic stayer POINT MADE is no longer with us. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/08/2007 9:27 PM
I don't envy the race caller having to get his tongue around these names in the first at Caloundra tomorra.
 
1   AVAGO DELBOY 0.0 0.0 0.0   J HOLDER 7 57.5   8X0 100
2   CALLEBAUT 0.0 44.4 6.0   A ERHART 8 57.5   84
3   IRISH ROCKER 11.1 44.4 0.0   J BYRNE 13 57.5   X6X 85
4   KATTA SHIKAKU TAMA 0.0 0.0 0.0   B PENGELLY 9 57.5   6X 86
5   PHILANAL 5.5 1.3 1.0   M HUGHES(A) 15 57.5   9 90
6   REGAL XAAR 5.5 22.2 6.0   D GRIFFIN 17 57.5   43X 86
7   BARBINTARY EYE 2.2 8.8 0.0   S GALLOWAY 5 56.0   2X2 95
8   ISOGAWA 0.0 0.0 0.0   K POPE 11 56.0   86
9   PHANTOM COUNTESS 11.1 5.5 1.0   M RADECKER(A) 12 56.0   306 86
10   PRINCES GINACHENKA 0.0 0.0 0.0   D BARRON 3 56.0   0X5 90
11   SHINCESS 0.0 0.0 0.0   R MCMAHON(A) 1 56.0   37X 93
12   STARLIGHT PRINCESS 0.0 44.4 2.0   D VAN BEKKUM 2 56.0   0X 86
13   REGAL TABOO 11.1 44.4 0.0   10 57.5   00X 74
14   UNINFORMED 0.0 0.0 0.0   14 57.5   8X9 74
15   GOTHIC DANCER 0.0 0.0 0.0   6 57.5   00X 86
16   VIRTUOSITY 0.0 0.0 0.0   4 56.0   69X 77
17   PANIC STATION 11.1 44.4 0.0   R HALL 16 57.5   70X 77


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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/08/2007 11:45 AM
Leith Innes was succesful in his appeal over a positive drug test.  Now reduced by the RAT to 4 months.
 
Fello Kiwi, Lisa Kropp's appeal on her Brisbane Cup suspension was also heard yesterday.  Judgement reserved.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGrega9430 Sent: 7/08/2007 2:45 PM
There should be a limit to the number of syllables permissible in a horses name. eg
 
KAT-TA-SHIK-AK-U-TAM-A = 7 , too many.
KA-KA-KA-KA-TIE = 5 , OK but rule could vary if the word was not in any dictionary.
DIS-CRET-ION-AR-Y=5 , OK as in dictionary
PRIN-CES-GIN-A-CHEN-KA =6, OK.
 
I don't know if I have broken the above down into correct syllables, but you get the gist.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/08/2007 4:19 PM
Horse 2 in the first tomorrow at Doomben is trained by Colin Hayes.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/08/2007 7:15 PM
Boom Danehill entire OCTOBER SKY returns to EF on Saturday.  Surprised to see that Best Bets don't tip him in their FIVE.
 
I'd expect him to be prettttttttty short, and WIN.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/08/2007 9:13 AM
Alan Bailey's smart filly SASHENKA resumes at EF today.  She's won 2 from 9 but has beaten herself by being reluctant to get going until the race is nearly over.  She raced well in Sydney over the autumn and is heading south again after today.
 
Bookies will probably serve her up short.  I won't be taking those odds over 1000 m.

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From: Delta Sent: 11/08/2007 10:18 AM
Peter Moody brought up a bit of trivia this morning on Sport 927 when he mentioned that as a youngster he attended the last meeting at The Creek with his father. VC called the last race and he thinks tha Vince also owned the last winner.
DD or Grats would be of that vintage...either of you chaps have the answer

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/08/2007 10:26 AM
Delta
 
Last race at The Creek was the Daydream Island Handicap over 1460 m.  It was won by champion creeker of the time, Lire News.  LN was trained by Jim Atkins, and was owned by Mr and Mrs Bill Stanley, who'll be at EF today.  LN was ridden by M Pelling.
 
Vince Curry was part owner of Half Scotch (with Jim Kennedy and Jim Killen) who was topweight with 57 and ridden by G Cook.  It weakened badly the last bit and ran near last.

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From: Delta Sent: 11/08/2007 10:47 AM
Thanks for that DD.
 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 11/08/2007 10:59 AM
Good memories of the Creek. 

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From: Delta Sent: 11/08/2007 11:03 AM
I have a soft spot for Prunda Grats

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 15/08/2007 9:50 PM
c/ aapracing.com.au
 
Coome goes from villain to hero

Star Rockhampton apprentice Adrian Coome proved a quick learner when he went from villain to hero following a stewards' grilling at Eagle Farm on Wednesday.

Coome incurred the wrath of chief steward John Hackett following his ill-judged ride on $2.25 favourite Laletta who could only manage fifth to the Rob Heathcote-trained Notre Amour ($10) in the uncharted.com.au Hcp (1400m).

However, Coome bounced back to show more initiative to win the following race on the Alan Bailey-trained $3.20 favourite Master Denis in the XXXX Gold Hcp (1200m).

Hackett quizzed Coome and the filly's trainer George Osborne at length over the performance of Laletta who was having her first Brisbane start following two unbeaten runs at Rockhampton.

The Dash For Cash filly had won her Rockhampton debut by 6-1/2 lengths and her last run by almost nine lengths on July 13.

Coome, who will soon begin a month's trial in Brisbane with Lawrie Mayfield-Smith, was caught three wide on Laletta after she jumped slowly and was back in the field.

"The instructions were to have her where she was comfortable but I could see I wasn't going to get in any closer so I went back on her," Coome said.

"I probably made a bad decision not to go forward on her from the 800 metres. When I did the form I thought there would be speed on but the pace was slow."

Osborne was critical of Coome's ride and told stewards the apprentice showed a lack of initiative by not going forward on the three-year-old in the middle stages.

"I was critical of his ride and I told him so," Osborne said.

"I thought in the middle stages when the pace was slow he should have gone forward but he didn't."

Stewards took no action against either party and Coome learned his lesson quickly with a brilliant ride to win on Master Denis in the following race.

Bailey believes Coome has a bright future in Brisbane after winning both the Rockhampton and Mackay jockeys' premierships last season as an apprentice.

Meanwhile, trainer Barry Baldwin's ex-foreman Shane Iverson landed his first Brisbane winner as a trainer when Cocktail Shaker led throughout to win the Schweppes Hcp (1600m).

Iverson served two stints with Baldwin, his first for three years which included strapping Baggio when the sprinter was runner-up in the Group One Stradbroke Hcp at Eagle Farm in 1994 and his latest for two years when the former Brisbane premiership-winning trainer returned from Macau four years ago.

Iverson has held his trainer's licence on and off for a number of years but was only relicensed in March this year.

"I've got 10 in work at Charleville and I've just had plaster taken off my ankle which I broke six weeks ago when I fell from a horse," Iverson said.

Jockey Chris Whiteley was suspended for seven meetings starting from midnight on Saturday for causing interference on his mount Nuclear Speed in the harvested.com.au Plate (1400m).


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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 15/08/2007 10:26 PM
Coome's ride on Laletta, a hot favourite, was a zero out of ten.

He showed no initiative and as a result of his woeful ride the favourite had no hope. His ride warranted a suspension, no doubt about it.

The fact he bounced back in the next race and rode the winner is irrelevant.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 15/08/2007 10:46 PM
coinswell not all of us were unhappy with his ride.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 16/08/2007 10:56 AM
Mono - if you backed the winner good luck to you - A Coome certainly assisted your cause.

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From: ProudKnight Sent: 16/08/2007 9:09 PM
Doubledee, couldnt help but notice your post 144 re October Sky and the dig at Best Bet's Howard Walter for leaving him out of the top 5 at at E Farm last Sat.
 
For those that didnt pay attention October Sky finished a moderate 6th over 1600m when $3.20 fav.
 
Howard made the comment in his preview on 4TAB on raceday morning that he was concerned that October Sky could revert to his staying European staying tendencies at any any point.
 
Bravo Howard, boo Doubledee.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/08/2007 9:26 PM
You're desperate to throw a rock at me are you, PK?
 
I can't see the "dig" in my post.  I made a statement and gave my thoughts.  Simple as that.
 
I'll wait for your congrats to me next time I pick a $1000 trifecta in order in 3 picks.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/08/2007 9:42 PM
I'll bet posts such as these make you spew, eh, Proud Knight?
 
From: <NOBR>NineMSN Nicknamevedder_69</NOBR> Sent: 14/01/2007 1:52 PM
That is huge -
 
Ffr 2 - 12 - 6 - 5  47916.30 

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From: ProudKnight Sent: 16/08/2007 10:46 PM
Ah, fishing is so easy aint, it ?

Doubledee, you took a position to pot Howard Walter of Best Bets for leaving the horse out of the top five, he was right, you were wrong.

I'd not of bothered to reply to the post had you of simply made the statement that October Sky was a good thing and he would be short, particularly if you backed it up with some logic.
 
Walter offered some logic as to why he felt October Sky was a risk, which is particularly useful when, as you suggested, the horse was going to be short.
 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/08/2007 10:55 PM
PK
 
So now my expression of "surprise" is a "pot" by your criteria.  OK.
 
I've been one of Howard Walter's staunchest advocates on this forum.  But you seem to know how I think - better than I do - so will leave it at that.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 16/08/2007 10:57 PM
I knew those little faces would get someone into trouble one day.

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From: Geoff Sent: 16/08/2007 10:58 PM
Bloody hell, ProudKnight, you're kidding...... aren't you?

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 16/08/2007 11:03 PM
I'm wondering who Proud Knight would of picked as his/her best bet...

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 16/08/2007 11:04 PM
DD, does'nt need me to defend him but he is a Best Bets man like myself.
    I could'nt give a rats where he gets his tips but he has helped my bank balance a few times
 
   Lol Then again I must admit it was Bart Sinclair that pushed me into backing October Sky.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/08/2007 11:12 PM
I said I'd "leave it at that"...
 
But it's worth noting that many saw October Sky as an unlucky runner.  Maybe it wasn't the best of rides, maybe the horse IS a stayer, maybe the horse didn't wanna be at the races last week, maybe it was just the run of the race....

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From: ProudKnight Sent: 16/08/2007 11:13 PM
JRB, I didnt do the form for Eagle Farm that day, so I didnt have one. But generally not affraid to give one, just choose not to do so on this forum.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 16/08/2007 11:40 PM
I don't think Byrne's ride on October Sky was one of his best.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/08/2007 12:48 AM
Plenty who took the shorts are agreeing with you, coins.  I don't think we've heard the last of OS.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamefatprawn Sent: 17/08/2007 1:15 PM
Proud Knight...IMO your post  about D.D.s comment is a load of crap.  I would also say that you must be a very sad person if you thimk like that.  I can see that you are one those very smart punters who can tell everyone who is right and who is wronng after the race is over.  Weak as piss IMO.
 
coins
 
I back October Sky for the place and was very dissappointed to say the least with the ride of J Byrne.  I will be interested to see whether he rides it next time.  (I have a high regard for J Byrne and I am not a knocker of jockeys just because I lose my money on there rides.)

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 17/08/2007 2:15 PM
You are much kinder than I am in that case FatPrawn.

If a jockey rides a bad race particularly in situations where the horse is well drawn I reckon they deserve to be criticised and that goes double if they are on a hotpot. It's a tough game and punters (and owners) are the ones that keep the show going.

I am wary of most riders in Brisbane especially out of towners as I don't think the depth is all that great. The apprentice ranks are currently pretty thin compared with when say Rodd and Purton were plying their trade up there - there are certainly no Sebastian Murphy's or Tye Anglands about the place.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 17/08/2007 6:09 PM
Got to agree about Jim....He hasn't been setting the world of fire of late.
Maybe this year if he is free of injury and suspension he may get back to somewhere near his best.

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From: specialweek Sent: 17/08/2007 7:06 PM
Rare I would have thought that B.Guy does not have a city runner tomorrow. GC yes on Saturday and numbers at SC on Sunday.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 17/08/2007 7:53 PM
Agree with you Mono - Byrne is not at his best not just because of his ride on October Sky. Powell is in good form and Katsidis and Scriven are usually reliable.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 17/08/2007 8:12 PM
Back this treble tomorrow  My favorite jockey at the moment.
 
Then again any jockey that wins money for me is my favorite.
 
Taylor, Ms A 03   06   Consider Yourself Nolan, M G
  04 06 Girl Of The West Miller, T N
  05 02 Winsome Loot Donald Baker

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From: NineMSN NicknameLittleMissy512 Sent: 17/08/2007 8:34 PM
Good one Gratty.

I think Yass River will shit in, Blood N Bone will be hard to beat and nothing else really stands out. Or i'm too lazy to have a look.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamearchwaysbliss Sent: 17/08/2007 10:18 PM
keen on mr aristos tomorrow, colless on board, babinda half will create the much needed pace and gets out to a nice distance, remember some good runs behind natural destiny over the summer in qld, gave weight to rasmussen last start and ran only a length behind, ready now. i think willy leica's best can win the 5th race but admit i don't know where he is at but remember a watching him beat an ordinary at sunny coast with 63kg and brained them, taking a chance with him but know i'll get a price as majorca will be short

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From: NineMSN Nicknamemeynink Sent: 18/08/2007 2:37 AM
archwaybliss
 
And don't forget Noble Gaze sitting right on the speed

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 18/08/2007 10:41 AM

c/ The Sydney Morning Herald

SOLID GOLD:

Toowoomba mare Gold Edition was last night crowned Queensland horse of the year, while her trainer Ron Maund received the trainer-of-the-year gong.

Gold Edition trialled at Rosehill on Tuesday and is set to return to racing with Damien Oliver aboard in next Saturday's McEwen Stakes at Moonee Valley.

Melbourne Cup-winning jockey Larry Olsen was inducted into the Queensland Racing Hall Of Fame along with Tails, a top stayer of the late 1960s and early 1970s.


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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 18/08/2007 10:42 AM
Congratulations on your winner during the week Meynink.  Very nice run I thought.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/08/2007 10:46 PM
Bob Bentley has announced that punters have provided an additional $4.8 million for owners, jockeys and trainers.  He'll decide where the money will be spent in the next month.  Presumably, post Aug 28.

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From: ProudKnight Sent: 19/08/2007 9:25 AM
Fatprawn, I think you'll find that I put my thoughts down on record a hell of a lot of the time before the race, just not on this forum.

DD, I agree with you re October Sky. I think he is a lovely big strong type and has plenty of scope. It will be interesting to see what distance Kelly elects for now. He will be hard to place now given he has won only two races but really stuck in C6 or restricted RS1/2/3 races.   

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From: ProudKnight Sent: 19/08/2007 9:39 AM
 
Interesting scenes following the second last race at the Gold Coast yesterday.
 
Top local hoop Chris Whiteley earned the wrath of a well known local punter following his ride on Manilla Warrior.

The punter gave Whiteley a barrage of abuse from the grandstand, with Whiteley returning fire in a highly visible verbal slanging match.

Things got very heated with the punter moving  to the ground floor outside the mounting yard, with Whiteley advancing towards the punter with the pair still trading verbal blows.

Manila Warriors connections, headed by Ken Jones Racing Manager Merlyn Connelly, stepped in to defuse the tense situation in support of Whiteley.  

The Alan Bailey prepared Manila Warrior was a solidly supported $2.35 favourite.

Manila Warrior was caught three deep throughout worse than midfield before being pulled up by Whiteley to finish some 15 lengths from the winner and all the way leader Sentorian.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 19/08/2007 9:55 AM
PK, we might hear more about it later on by the sound of it.
 
Whitely has been going OK lately imo.  Not sure how many winners that he has had as it seems more when you have a few bob on them.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 23/08/2007 2:18 PM
c/ Courier Mail

Stewards lose on Cropp appeal

Top New Zealand jockey Lisa Cropp has won another battle to escape a penalty from the Brisbane Cup incident that initially cost her a three-month suspension.

The Racing Appeal Tribunal yesterday handed down a judgment against Queensland Racing Limited stewards.

Cropp was suspended for allegedly waving her whip before the finish line in the Cup at Eagle Farm on June 11.

Stewards claimed the action had cost her mount, Lilakyn, victory in a photo margin of a couple of centimetres to Newport.

Cropp won at the first level of appeal at the QRL, but chief steward Reid Sanders took the matter to the higher RAT.

"I'm disappointed," Sanders said last night.

"I thought we had a good case.

"I haven't spoken yet to our legal advisers but I doubt if we will be taking the matter further."


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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/08/2007 4:17 PM
It surprises me that so many people have difficulty finding the outside point of the EF finishing line.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/08/2007 4:21 PM
The Courier-Mail's breeding scribe, Peter Howard, reports in today's press that the enigmatic Platinum Scissors has 17 mares in foal at Plaintree Farms on the Darling Downs.
 
A full brother to Redoute's Choice, PS sent plenty of punters to the wall, and has had fertility problems at stud.  Now in the hands of well-known vet David Pascoe, he now looks to have at least a limited future as a sire.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/08/2007 11:58 PM
DEVIL INSIDE - one of Brisbane's speediest mares - is set to do battle with Gold Edition at Moonee Valley on Saturday.
 
DI failed in Sydney last run after working pretty hard. This will be her first try anti-clockwise.  She'll certainly ensure there's no loafing from the gates.
 
Let's hope she measures up.  If not, I'd say she's off to stud.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/08/2007 12:40 PM
I'd expect gratlog will be literally salivating at the prospects of more fat quaddies now that the CM tipsters' panel extends to FOUR selections.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 24/08/2007 12:45 PM
lol That's how observant I am, I did'nt notice it .
 
They are getting as bad as Larry Olsen and will be picking  half a dozen soon.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/08/2007 12:57 PM
Well....Larry is justified in picking 7 or 8.  He has to accommodate not only those who he's tipped in the morning, but also those who "look well" and those who the trainers tip to him.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 2/09/2007 9:35 PM
From today's The Sunday Mail:
 
by Bart Sinclair
 
THE outbreak of the equine flu will cause a review of the planned injection of $4.8 million into prizemoney in Queensland.

Queensland Racing Limited was set to announce later this month where the added money would be directed.

That timetable now is on hold and there may have to be a reduction in the funds available after the loss of betting revenue due to the horse flu epidemic.

QR chief operating officer Malcolm Tuttle has calculated the direct loss to the industry from a stoppage of races around Australia was about $1.5 million per week.

While racing is possible at some Australian venues, the haemorrhaging will at least be minimised. If this virus jumps borders into Victoria and South Australia the downturn in revenue will be catastrophic.

The virus problem is not over yet in thoroughbreds in Queensland.

The news of outbreaks at Warwick Farm and Hawkesbury is sobering.

There are a lot of minefields on the road ahead and it will take some deft sidestepping and plenty of luck to find safe ground.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 3/09/2007 4:23 PM
Programmes for Twba, EF and GC:
 
The following programmes have been approved:

Toowoomba Turf Club - Friday 7 September 2007

Open Hcp                    1100m             $40,000

Class 6 Plate              1200m             $10,000

Class 3 Plate              1000m             $10,000

Class 3 Plate              1300m             $10,000

Class 1 Hcp                1200m             $10,000

Maiden Plate               1300m             $  7,700

Maiden Hcp                 1200m             $  7,700

Maiden Plate               1000m             $  7,700

Nominations Close:    Tuesday 4 September at 9.00am

Weights Declared:      Wednesday 5 September

QueenslandTurf Club – Saturday 8 September 2007

Open Hcp                    1300m             $40,000

Class 6 Plate              1200m             $40,000

Class 6 Plate              1500m             $10,000

Class 3 Plate              1300m             $10,000

Class 3 Plate              1000m             $10,000

Maiden Plate               1500m             $  7,700

Maiden Hcp                 1200m             $  7,700

Maiden Plate               1000m             $  7,700>

Nominations Close:    Tuesday 4 September at 11.00am

Weights Declared:      Wednesday 5 September

 

Gold Coast Turf Club – Sunday 9 September 2007

Open Hcp                      900m             $10,000

0MW Hcp                    1200m             $40,000

Class 3 Plate              1800m             $10,000

Class 3 Plate              1200m             $10,000

Class 1 Hcp                1400m             $10,000

Maiden Plate               1200m             $  7,700

Maiden Hcp                   900m             $  7,700

Nominations Close:    Tuesday 4 September at 11.00am

Weights Declared:      Wednesday 5 September


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From: dubbledee Sent: 3/09/2007 6:07 PM
Leading trainer Bryan Guy has 15 acceptors for Wednesday's Gold Coast meeting.

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From: specialweek Sent: 3/09/2007 6:23 PM
Yes DD he has but what about the numbers of noms overall. No wonder they have another meeting scheduled so close later.

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From: NineMSN NicknameLuskin_Star© Sent: 3/09/2007 6:45 PM
The thing that stunned me was the Class 3 Plate 1200m. They balloted out 21 acceptances and made 5 emergencies, surely they could have added another race to give those horses a run      

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/09/2007 8:07 PM
Stabling availability in the Brisbane racing precinct is going from stressed to critical, with several of the larger trainers likely to lose their premises in coming months.

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From: ProudKnight Sent: 5/09/2007 9:22 PM
DD, If any Brisbane trainers have a spare $12m hidden under the bed, they can buy Wadham Park. The deal to sell looks like it has fallen over with Phil Sullivan.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/09/2007 9:41 PM
Okkkkk.  Shame it's so far away from the racecourses.  Not many of these stand alone complexes have worked out over the years, eh?  (In Qld at least.)

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 5/09/2007 10:17 PM
yeah that does seem to be the case.

I think I saw that one up at Peachester up for sale again recently.
Pat Duff used to train out of there.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 5/09/2007 10:23 PM
Talking of Wadham Park I heard Dale Sutton on the wireless this morning saying that Grey Swallow is  retired for sure. Just that there were rumours about it being back in work .

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 6/09/2007 7:53 AM
Hope Wayne has'nt got the EI.   I was having a problem reading WW's column this week and got this email back from the Bayside Star.
 
HI Greg

You can access page 59 by clicking on page 56 as we have run out of links on the site and have therefore combined pages 56-60 into one PDF file. However, Wayne's column is not in this week's edition, due to the horse flu crisis. Hopefully we'll have a column for next week's paper.

Ren Zwiers (editor)

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/09/2007 3:03 PM
Shame that SC people lost their meeting today.  Let's hope it can go ahead on Monday.
 
Toowoomba on tomorrow, weather permitting.  I guess if it isn't, that will mean the Downs is getting good rain.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamearchwaysbliss Sent: 6/09/2007 3:44 PM
spoke to a mate from toowoomba this morning and he reckoned only 12mm overnight and not much else so we might be a chance, as for my local sunny coast we'll need a pretty good weekend as it's soaked out there.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 6/09/2007 6:26 PM
Somewhat ironic we are losing so many meetings of late and not only due to the virus situation.
The BTC will be feeling it in theit hip pocket after losing a couple of meets.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/09/2007 6:27 PM
Let's hope Twba goes ahead.
 
EF all set....
 

Eagle Farm Racecourse will be back on track this Saturday, 8th September. In addition to the nine race program, Punchline will perform live.

Adults $10

Under 18s and pensioners free

Under 18s must be accompanied by a responsible adult exercising parental supervision

Gates open 10:30am

First race: 12:08pm

Last race: 5:15pm

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/09/2007 6:31 PM
Actually it's an 8-race programme, not 9.
 
146 Acceptors.
 
Let's hope the rain doesn't get in the way.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/09/2007 6:08 PM
Sky announced that the remainder of today's Twba card will be run on Wednesday next.
 
Let's hope that EI doesn't get in the way.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/09/2007 6:09 PM
Today's C-M reports that the Morrisey stable is hoping to get champ Lachlan River down to Melbourne for another tilt at the Cup.
 
He ran a slashing race at GC on Wed.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/09/2007 11:20 AM
Good luck to connections of one of Brisbane's star fillies, CHINCHILLA ROSE, at Flemington today.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 8/09/2007 12:44 PM
It will need it against that field - it is one of the deepest races for this bunch of last year's 2yos/this year's 3yos.

How the track plays could also be a factor.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/09/2007 1:46 PM
Was a very good run by Chinchilla Rose on Saturday. 
 
She seemed unhappy boxed up on the fence, and was near last with 150 to go.  When she saw a bit of space over the last bit she knuckled down and ran on well.
 
In previous runs she's had plenty of room.  The good draw looked to be her undoing on Saturday.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/09/2007 1:53 PM
Plenty of discussions in Brisbane race circles about the plan to run a race meeting at Deagon on Friday.  Many of us are concerned for the safety of the track for racing, plus lack of infrastructure, broadcast facilities, etc etc. But full credit to QRL for making the moves to give Deagon-owned horses access to some prizemoney.
 
IMO, if there are no known cases of EI by Wednesday in the horse populations at Deagon, Doomben or Eagle Farm, there would be little (probably ZERO) risk of moving the Deagon horses to either Doomben or Eagle Farm on Friday.  The Deagon-based horses could then race against one another on a track set up for racing (and betting).
 
Obviously there'd need to be approval from DPI to move the horses, but I'd think that would be justified - provided there are no cases identified in the Brisbane's throroughbred population to that time.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 10/09/2007 2:20 PM
The track was against Chinchilla Rose as well which added to the merit of the run in what was a very good field.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 10/09/2007 2:27 PM
I think the track might be safe DD but do they have somewhere to get something to eat.
 
Used to be a good fish and chip shop over the road when I was a young hoodlum hanging around that area..

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/09/2007 3:02 PM
Good question, gratlog.  A punter has gotta eat.  Right now, I'm not sure if there'll be public admitted.  Any bookies?  totes?  toilets?  bars? photo finish? stewards' fims?
 
Track safety is a prime concern, to me.  Strolling around in a barrier trial is a lot different to a race for money, IMO.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 10/09/2007 3:16 PM
Only seems like yesterday that as kids we would ride our ponies onto the old track and pretend we were on the top horses of the day while we galloped around the track.lol      It was fifty years ago which is a bit of a worry in itself.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/09/2007 4:19 PM
I reckon you're a shoe-in for a member on the New Deagon Race Club Board, gratlog.
 
Lots of us would have looked back to the 70s when IMASHADOW won the 2nd at Bendigo yesterday.
 
The Lyndhurst-bred Ima Shadow loved to lead, and won a stack of good races in Brisbane.  I think he raced in Sydney on one occasion at least.  Mel Schumacher won plenty on him.
 
The Brisbane version was out of Meanmi Shadow, but for the life of me I can't recall his sire.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/09/2007 4:40 PM
OK, all cleared up. Wayne Wilson has called with the following info.
 
Ima Shadow was by Lyndhurst's imported sire, Lysander II, out of Eye Shadow.  Meanmi Shadow (QTC Oaks winner from memory) was a full sister to Ima Shadow.
 
WW recalls Eye Shadow as being quite small, but a very smart sprinter.  She won a Doomben Newmarket.
 
Eye Shadow was around at the time of champion Eye Liner - both trained by WW's uncle, Jack Wilson - but was not related to Eye Liner.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/09/2007 7:02 PM
Qld's Racing Programme for the next 10 days:
 

Eagle Farm – Saturday 15/9/07

Open Hcp 1500m $17,000

Class 6 Plate SW 1300m $40,000

Class 6 Plate SW 1800m $40,000

Class 3 Plate SW 1300m $10,000

Class 3 Plate SW 1000m $10,000

Maiden Hcp 1600m $ 7,700

Maiden Plate SW 1200m $ 7,700

Maiden 3YO Hcp 1000m $ 7,700 + $7,000 QTIS

Noms close: Tuesday 11/9/07 at 11.00am

Weights declared: Wednesday 12/9/07

Acceptances: Thursday 13/9/07 at 9.00am

Jockey declaration: Thursday 13/9/07 at 12 noon

Gold Coast – Sunday 16/9/07

Open Hcp 1400m $40,000

Class 6 Plate SW 1200m $40,000

Class 6 Plate SW 1800m $17,000

Class 3 Hcp 1400m $10,000

Class 3 Plate SW 900m $10,000

Maiden Hcp 1400m $ 7,700

Maiden 3YO Plate SW 1200m $ 7,700 + $7,000 QTIS

Noms close: Tuesday 11/9/07 at 11.00am

Weights declared: Wednesday 12/9/07

Acceptances: Thursday 13/9/07 at 9.30am

Jockey declaration: Thursday 13/9/07 at 12 noon

Gold Coast – Wednesday 19/9/07

Open Hcp 1200m $40,000

Class 6 Plate SW 1400m $40,000

Class 3 Plate SW 1800m $10,000

Class 3 Hcp 1200m $10,000

Maiden Hcp 1200m $ 7,700

Maiden Hcp 900m $ 7,700

Maiden 3YO Plate SW 1300m $ 7,700 + $7,000 QTIS

Noms close: Thursday 13/9/07 at 11.00am

Weights declared: Friday 14/9/07

Acceptances: Monday 17/9/07 at 9.30am

Jockey declaration: Monday 17/9/07 at 12 noon

Due to the number of staff required to ensure all bio-security measures are implemented in accordance with QRL and DPI restrictions, non-TAB meetings have been spread across the weekend and have been limited to those venues that can sustain a race meeting within their local precinct. The meetings proposed for the weekend a

Bedourie – Saturday 15/9/07

Open Hcp 1600m $15,000

Open Hcp 1000m $7,850

Class 6 Hcp 1300m $8,350

Class 3 Hcp 1000m $8,500

Class B Hcp 1200m $6,350

Maiden Plate (3yo&up sw) 1100m $6,750

Gympie – Saturday 15/9/07

Open Hcp 1000m $4,000

Class 6 Plate (sw) 1150m $4,000

Class 3 Plate (sw) 850m $6,000

Class B Hcp 1150m $4,000

Maiden Plate (3yo&up sw) 850m $4,000

Mackay – Saturday 15/9/07

Open Hcp 1050m $6,000

Class 6 Plate (sw) 1250m $6,000

Class 4 Hcp 1050m $6,000

Class 2 Hcp 1250m $6,000

Maiden Plate (3yo&up sw) 1050m $6,000

Charleville – Sunday 16/9/07

Open Hcp 1200m $6,000

Class 6 Plate (sw) 1000m $4,000

Class 3 Plate (sw) 1000m $4,000

Class B Hcp 1100m $4,000

Maiden Plate (3yo&up sw) 800m $4,000

Gladstone – Sunday 16/9/07

Open Hcp 1000m $4,000

Class 6 Plate (sw) 1194m $6,000

Class 3 Plate (sw) 850m $4,000

Class B Hcp 1194m $4,000

Maiden Plate (3yo&up sw) 1000m $4,000

Mount Isa – Sunday 16/9/07

Open Hcp 1200m $4,000

Class 6 Plate (sw) 1000m $4,000

Class 3 Plate (sw) 1100m $6,000

Class B Hcp 900m $4,000

Maiden Plate (3yo&up sw) 1000m $4,000

Noms close: Tuesday 11/9/07 at 11.00am

Weights declared: Wednesday 12/9/07

Acceptances: Thursday 13/9/07 at 10.00am

Jockey declaration: Thursday 13/9/07 at 12 noon


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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/09/2007 6:08 PM
Followers of this thread cleaned up in a big way when Sydney champ Thorn Park won the Stradbroke in 2004.
 
Pleasing news that his progeny are showing promise in NZ.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From breednet.com.au
 

Windsor Park Stud's exciting freshman sire Thorn Park (AUS) (Spinning World) has been making waves at New Zealand's Trials scene recently, with two winners and two placegetters resulting from four individuals to step out.

Winning her 650m Catchweight trial in a time of 0.41.3 the Graeme Rogerson and Garry Newham trained filly ex Zahra (NZ) (Zabeel) (dam of Gr.3 winner, Mr Ubiquitous) was the first to stamp her class, racing home for success by half-a-length at Cambridge Jockey Club on August 14.

The Spinning World (USA) sire was to the fore again three weeks later with a second filly crossing for a two length win atTe Tekoon September 4.

Trained by Roger James, the filly ex J Lo (NZ) (Unbridled's Song) raced home over 600m in a time of 0.34.38.

Unbeaten at two, Thorn Park (AUS)won nine of his 22 starts for trainer Bob Thomsen and bowed out of racing in the best possible way when winning the Gr.1 QTC Stradbroke Hcp (1400m) in Brisbane.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/09/2007 5:53 PM

QTC has been given approval by Queensland Racing Ltd (QRL) and the Department of Primary Industries & Fisheries (DPI) to resume racing last Saturday, 8th September.

The Club will conduct a meeting again this Saturday, 15th September as previously scheduled. Public access restrictions will be in place for certain areas including the horse tie up stalls, Mounting Enclosure, Champagne Bar and so on. Decontamination processes will be in place for those in contact with horses.

The following venues will be open:

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Ascot Bar (John Power Stand)

Guineas Restaurant (John Power Stand)

Members Bar (John Power Stand)

Strawberry Road Restaurant (Public)

Rough Habit Bar (Public)

Paddock Lawn Bar (Public)

Stradbroke Bar (Public)

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Bookmakers will be in attendance in the Rails Betting Ring and Paddock Betting Ring.

Gates will open at 10:30am with the first race run at 11:53am. General Admission for public will be $10 with under 18s and pensioners free.

With regards to racedates beyond this Saturday, the Club awaits confirmation from QRL and DPI officials. As further information comes to hand, the Club will continue to inform Members on updates to racemeetings.

For all raceday information, including Spring Carnival dates and event activities, visit our website at www.qtc.org.


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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 13/09/2007 6:52 PM
I noticed a few write ups about people ignoring the rules there last week re the quarantine.
   Just wondering who's responsibity is that? The stewards or special security?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 13/09/2007 6:58 PM
BTW, Who is the new Racing Minister? 
 
Surely they cannot leave it with Fraser. lol He has enough to worry about .
 
I hear that no one wants the job.  Anna has less interest in racing than Pete , and he did'nt give two hoots.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 13/09/2007 10:42 PM
I'm not sure but I think Arthur Lister has a book out and I was wondering if anyone would know where we could buy it.
 
 I think Arthur lives down Banyo way these days.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamemeynink Sent: 13/09/2007 11:45 PM
gratlog
 
Andrew Fraser (Treasurer and Racing) - could be a very good thing.

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« 2008-Nov-30, 10:34 PM Reply #15 »
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From: NineMSN Nicknamemeynink Sent: 13/09/2007 11:46 PM
I'll add to that to avoid the confusion - he is both.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 14/09/2007 9:10 AM
A week is certainly a long time in politics. Especially in Qld.
 
We have had some interesting Racing Ministers
 
Fraser and Big Russ are very similar

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From: NineMSN Nicknameracehorses1 Sent: 14/09/2007 9:59 PM
From: dubbledee Sent: 12/09/2007 4:08 PM
Followers of this thread cleaned up in a big way when Sydney champ Thorn Park won the Stradbroke in 2004.
 
Pleasing news that his progeny are showing promise in NZ.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
DD that photo brings back sooooooo many happy memories.....
I'll never forget when you ordered your steak at the Brekky Creek forum party the day before that Straddy and gave your name as Mr Thorn Park and you said "thatttttts the winna ".
 
I hoooooooooope his 2yos do very well and we may even see one of them over here for another Straddy.
 
QUESTION............Has any Straddy winner been the sire of another Straddy winner?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2007 10:09 AM
You're memory is in good shape, RH.  I'd totally forgotten about the order at the BCH.
 
Re your question, I dunno of any. Can't recall too many entires winning the race.
 
But there'll be a chance in the next few years with Thorn Park and Show A Heart now at stud.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/09/2007 3:51 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 20/09/2007 4:03 PM
I did see that and thought, who is this old bloke whinginging about penalty rates?
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameAntitab Sent: 20/09/2007 4:22 PM
Wouldnt the public holidays create  enough extra revenue to more than cover the extra wages bill?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/09/2007 4:28 PM
The meeting was informed that the total profit on Exhibition Wed last year was wiped out by the increased wages bill.
 
Other PHs would be losers.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/09/2007 10:19 PM
Last week I made mention of the fact that Adrian Coome (3kg claimer) was engaged for Notre Amour (handicapped at 51.5kg).
 
I expressed doubt as to the amount he could claim.
 
The press indicated he claimed NIL of his 3 kg. I'm surprised that Stewards permitted the engagement.
 
I understand it's a case of "punter beware", but many punters would have expected the horse to be carrying 48.5 or thereabouts.
 
Stewards won't let G Colless ride 1 kg over.  Unless there are exceptional circumstances - and there might have been in the NA case - I reckon a similar criterion should be applied to apprentices.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 20/09/2007 11:07 PM
dd I'm not sure in this instance but I'd think you would find many an apprentice unable to ride with their full claim.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/09/2007 11:10 PM
I think Palmer rode last week, Mono...and he coulda ridden lighter than 52.5 kg.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamemeynink Sent: 20/09/2007 11:37 PM
Don't blame the jock dubbledee. The horse lacked the maturity not the little parcel of joy.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/09/2007 11:39 PM
Can't see anywhere that I'm blaming the jock, meynink.
 
I'm referring to a the general position of an apprentice being engaged when there was no hope of him/her every claiming 1 kg.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamemeynink Sent: 20/09/2007 11:45 PM
Palmer versus Coome?
 
Its unfortunate when you have to book them 48 hours ahead of nominations. The calendar has him riding at 52kg (Coome) so I guess we all should have known there was never going to be claim.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/09/2007 12:09 AM
Wellll, I wouldn't have much too much between AC and the Palmers (Matthew in particula). 
 
Both Michael and Matthew rode at EF.  I think they're down around 50 kg.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 23/09/2007 10:11 AM
c/ Sunday Mail
Bart Sinclair
 
Focus on the big picture
 

These are unprecedented times in racing. Everyone in the industry has to think big picture and look beyond their own backyard.

Of course that's easier to say than carry out when you are staring at severe financial downturn or perhaps even loss of employment.

I've observed the full gamut of emotions from industry personnel. The mood runs from confusion, frustration, anger to despair.

There is no click-of-the-fingers solution to the equine flu disaster. The priority has to be racing product. The show must go on in terms of giving punters something to bet on. No product, no revenue to the industry.

To this end Queensland Racing Limited chairman Bob Bentley is directing his staff to explore every avenue to keep TAB meetings afloat.

This has meant some country clubs have been told their meetings have been cancelled even though most of them are in the "green" zone where there has been no horse flu cases and transport of horses now is permitted under permit.

THE effect of the country club shut-off is well encapsulated in the situation of the Gladstone Turf Club. The GTC has been informed by QRL the meetings for next Saturday and Cox Plate day (October 27) have been withdrawn.

Unfortunately these meetings are two of the most profitable for a club which has pulled itself up from near wipeout two years ago.

At least QRL has offered the country centres permission to stage betting meetings so there will be some revenue available to them.

Gladstone president David Weinert is grateful for the betting meetings, but fears for the future involvement of many owners of horses in his area.

BENTLEY conceded there has been a large amount of funds not distributed by QRL in the past month with prizemoney cuts and meeting cancellations.

But he has vowed to pour that money back into prizemoney once the flu epidemic is beaten.

The extent of how much funding from the TAB will be lost is not yet clear. And it may not be for some time with racing working in the dark until the virus ends.

"For the moment we are making sure there is a significant TAB program maintained," Bentley said.

"This is not about saving money. It's about making sure we get through this as well as possible and then look to push ahead positively when we get back to normal."

COALITION shadow racing minister Mike Horan said his industry insiders had estimated QRL had saved about $2.5 million in the past month, even allowing for an estimated downturn of $1 million in TAB returns to racing.

"It's about time the minister (Andrew Fraser) gave some leadership to the industry in this terrible situation with the horse flu," Horan said.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 1/10/2007 10:30 PM
Press Release from Queensland Turf Club:
 

Temporary Stables to Assist during Equine Influenza

(EI) crisis

Queensland Turf Club Ltd (QTC) Chairman, Mr Bill Sexton, today announced the Club will build 160 temporary stables at Eagle Farm Racecourse to assist horse trainers during the Equine Influenza (EI) crisis.

As a result of the outbreak of EI and the subsequent cancellation of metropolitan racing until February 2008, trainers are faced with severe financial hardship with many struggling to meet rental payments.

On top of this, suitable horse accommodation in areas such as Hendra and Doomben has depleted due to an increased demand for housing in these suburbs.

The QTC, together with the assistance of local government representatives, received emergency approval to commence works immediately on the temporary stabling facilities.

The temporary stables will be incorporated in the existing early morning trackwork stalls, located adjacent to Nudgee Road at Eagle Farm Racecourse.

"The stables will provide much needed emergency relief for trainers in the Hendra district. "I wish to thank Councillor David McLachlan, Member for Clayfield, Tim Nicholls MP and

Campbell Newman for their compassion and understanding during such a desperate time for the local community. "The immediate commencement of the temporary stabling facilities project is attributed to local people solving problems for the local community. The Club is most appreciative of local government efforts," said Mr Sexton.

The QTC will provide the crisis accommodation to trainers rent free.

Trainers will be required to apply for the temporary stabling facilities and all applications will be assessed on a needs basis.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/10/2007 7:09 PM
From AAP:
 
Magic Millions moves to Easter
 
THE Magic Millions yearling sale and race meeting featuring Queensland's richest race, the $1.5 million Magic Millions Two-Year-Old Classic, will be held on the Gold Coast from Easter Monday next year.
Magic Millions managing director David Chester today announced the new dates for the revamped carnival which has been put back from its traditional January timeslot because of the equine influenza (EI) outbreak.

Chester said the Easter schedule was the most suitable time for Magic Millions clients.

"This timeslot also ensures our sales and raceday will not clash with any other major racedays or thoroughbred events in the region," Chester said.

"As well as this our new dates fit favourably with our large and ever-increasing international buying bench.

"The new dates will also provide owners and trainers with more time to prepare their horses for the rich Magic Millions raceday at the Gold Coast - the only raceday of its kind in the world and the richest in Queensland."

The carnival will kick off with the $4.1 million Magic Millions raceday which includes the Two-Year-Old Classic (1200m) and Magic Millions Trophy (1400m) for three-year-olds on Easter Monday, March 24.

The first session of the Magic Millions sale will commence later that night.

Nine sessions have been programmed for the 2008 sale, running from March 24 to March 27 followed by a two-day break before recommencing with session five on March 30.

The sale will continue until the final session on April 3.

Chester said Magic Millions had planned to reveal its revised carnival at a later date but had been forced into announcing the decision today following pressure from clients.

"Magic Millions intended to delay the announcement of rescheduled dates for the Conrad Jupiters Magic Millions Yearling Sale and raceday as long as possible for obvious reasons," he said.

"But over the last few days our company has come under a great deal of pressure by domestic and international buyers as well as breeders to end the speculation."

Sydney's William Inglis and Son premier yearling sale is usually held at Easter but has been put back to April next year due to the EI crisis.

Sydney's autumn racing carnival is also expected to be delayed by four to five weeks.

Meanwhile, Magic Millions announced it would assist breeders and vendors in the lead-up to the 2008 sale by offering up to four weeks complimentary stabling at the Gold Coast.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/10/2007 10:12 AM
The shutdown of SEQld racing is causing some of our jockeys to put on their travelling shoes.
 
Jason Holder is returning to his old stamping ground of Adelaide, and Ms M Radecker is following suit.

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From: Delta Sent: 14/10/2007 10:58 AM
I notice in the first at Emerald that the the No1  is from the J O'Shea stables at Rockhampton. Any relation to the other J O'Shea.
 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 14/10/2007 12:08 PM
Not sure Delta.
 
Name: JIM O'SHEA
Statistics: Last 3m Month 1 Month 2 Month 3
Runs: 13 1 3 9
Wins: 1 0 0 1
2nds: 1 0 0 1
3rds: 5 1 0 4
 
DD, you mentioned J.Holder. If you get a chance have a look at his ride yesterday on Orme.  Close to perfect imo but then I am talking through my pocket.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/10/2007 1:02 PM
gratlog
 
I didn't get to see the replay. 
 
BTW, where is your mate BurntToast?  Bahamas?  Hope he's OK.
 
Current plans are for racing to resume in Brisbane at Doomben on 1 December.
 
EF will wait a bit longer to allow the grass to consolidate at the site of the old 600 m crossing.  EF resumes on 15 December.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 23/10/2007 1:43 PM
BT was going to take the kids to Disneyland, so maybe that is where he is at the moment..
 
I know it is always luck with me when selecting my runners , but it will be more so for some time when the racing does start up again.
 
 

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From: specialweek Sent: 23/10/2007 1:47 PM
DD, I was under the impression that SC and other outer venues would commence before Brisbane but obviously not the case.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/10/2007 1:49 PM
SW
 
Plans are for GC and Twba to also race on Dec 1.  Sunshine Coast on Dec 2.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/10/2007 1:50 PM
That's good, gratlog.  He's not far from the Bahamas.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamescorch1111 Sent: 24/10/2007 1:24 AM
Of interest smart QLD galloper Vitruvian resumes tomorrow at Geelong... obviously injury plagued this fella has some nice form... check out this form line.... from racing and sports.... anyone know how this guy is going??
 
EAGLE FARM 3 Dec 2005 
 Hardy Brothers Jewellers (C6) 1200m $25,400 SOT=Dead 
  SecT=36.40 / RaceT=1:11.00 

FP  Tb  Horse wt  Jockey (bp) Trainer SP 
1st  STRAWBERRY MALT 53.0  MATTHEW PALMER (11) (-3.0) BARRY BALDWIN
2nd  VITRUVIAN 57.0  GLEN COLLESS (12) ALAN BAILEY
3rd  LA MONTAGNA 55.5  MICHAEL CAHILL (4) BARRY BALDWIN 5-2 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 13/11/2007 10:42 AM
Doomben back December 1 - confirmed a day or so ago by Qld Racing I hear.

After putting up with the Flemington carnival and nothing else, I for one can hardly wait

Anyone got more details?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/11/2007 12:13 PM
scorch
 
Vitruvian won the last on Kyneton Cup day from memory.  Looked gone to the world on the turn but humped his big weight to a last-stride victory.
 
Coins
 
Yes, Dbn on Dec 1 and 8 and EF on 15th.  Horses from GC etc can race at those meetings, I understand.
 
Takeover Target and Natural Destiny are likely runners in a $100,000 race at Dbn.  They can come from NSW no problems, but I think there's a requirement for 14 days' quarantine before they return.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/11/2007 8:53 PM
Talked with several of the trainers at EF this morning and it's fair to say they're bucking their brands off with the  return to racing imminent.
 
What a resilient group these people are.  Few appreciate the emotional and financial stresses that beset their businesses, yet all seem happy and carrying no grudges.  Most have been able to keep their staff on the payroll.  Full credit for that.
 
Rob Heathcote has had another double injection of enthusiasm for Brisbane racing.  He's fielding enquiries from prospective clients in the South and reports that several of his stable stars are ready to start serious work.  (I didn't ask about Malta.)
 
The out-of-town stables will have a head-start on the locals for the first few weeks.  Regardless it will be a big celebration when the gates open at Doomben on Dec 1.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 15/11/2007 3:24 PM
Thanks for the update dubbledee. Big fields will be the order of the day no doubt. Any word when GC and Sunny Coast are back on line?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/11/2007 3:26 PM
Yeah, coins.  Same weekend, I believe.  GC on Dec 1, SC on Dec 2.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/11/2007 3:43 PM
The UNiTAB website has updated their racing calendar to reflect the new dates.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/11/2007 6:57 PM
QTC is spending in excess of $1 million to build temporary stabling for horses being squeezed out of nearby suburbs.
 
The stalls will be ready for occupancy before well before Christmas.
 
Here's one of Qld's best sprinters doing a test-run on the new digs.
 
 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 15/11/2007 8:05 PM
Might move in myself

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/11/2007 9:49 PM
History in the making, and a genuine scoop for the Forum.
 
The grass being laid in the new enclosure at Eagle Farm today.
 
 

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From: Ascot Sent: 22/11/2007 10:01 PM
Bloke in the red hat looks like a ring in.
 
What did ya do with the old grass?  Could have used some at my place.  Plus Fine Cotton walked on that. Hope ya kept a piece for the museum. 

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From: arakaan Sent: 22/11/2007 10:02 PM
the main course looks in fantastic knick.

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From: Ascot Sent: 22/11/2007 10:04 PM
Ahhhhhhh
 
Where's the clock gone?  I was born beside that.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/11/2007 10:11 PM
Yes, arakaan, it does.  And so it bloody should.  LOL.  The kikuyu is 200 mm deep.  First rest the track has had in 100 years.
 
Ascot....clock will be back.  Have no fears.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/11/2007 10:12 PM
Was it Fine Cotton, Ascot?  I think ya mean Bold Personality.

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From: Ascot Sent: 22/11/2007 10:22 PM
And I know one forumite that backed it.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGoJeune94 Sent: 22/11/2007 10:25 PM
Still staggers me that they'll happily run 20 round EF and Doomben without any problems yet Flemington is stuck at 16 with a few exceptions - grow some balls VRC!!!!!

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 23/11/2007 9:04 PM
dd I hope that turf is established by the 15th ....thats the day we all celebrate the return of racing to Eagle Farm.

I might see if I can make it out there .

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From: NineMSN Nicknameracehorses1 Sent: 28/11/2007 11:01 AM
DD.....the lovely grey post 261 is that Make Mine Magic?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/12/2007 11:14 PM
RH
 
Yes, that's Make Mine Magic in the picture.  You're a softie for greys.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/12/2007 2:09 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Birthday change a recipe for trouble
by Bart Sinclair

A MOOTED transfer of the Queen's Birthday public holiday from June to October would mean another change to the winter carnival program.

If the State Government proceeds with a plan to change the public holiday, the traditional Brisbane Cup June race date would be deleted from the winter carnival in 2009 and beyond.

Queensland Turf Club chief executive Stephen Ferguson said his club had been informed of the proposal by Queensland Racing Limited and was looking at options.

"Ultimately it is QRL's decision but you can see there is going to be a problem juggling the expectations of all race clubs involved in the winter carnival," Ferguson said.

"There are currently six main winter meetings shared – three at Eagle Farm and three at Doomben.

"If you take one away by removing the Queen's Birthday holiday then you have five meetings or push the later dates at Ipswich, Tattersall's and the Sunshine Coast back a week.

"You can see the very real possibility of a squabble between the QTC and the Brisbane Turf Club over the allocation of race dates.

"Under a merger, it wouldn't be an issue at all. This is a clear and simple example of why the clubs should merge.

"It's incredible to think there is now a prospect of more energy being wasted on race dates instead of getting on with business."

Public holiday race meetings, once regarded as good money-spinners for metropolitan race clubs, have largely delivered mediocre financial returns over the past 20 years.

And in a lot of cases, meeting on public holidays have been run at a significant loss.

The QTC has to pay staff at double time-and-a-half rates on Brisbane Cup day.

Chief operations manager Malcolm Tuttle said the QRL was awaiting further advice from the State Government before deciding on any changes to the winter dates, starting from 2009


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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 6/12/2007 7:10 PM
I am interested in keeping replays of all Brisbane, SC, GC, Toowoomba and Ippy races. I've got Foxtel IQ but would prefer to store them on my DVD player or CDs.

What's the best way of getting and storing replays without having access to the races live or alternatively having to sit through all the races from other venues in the Sky replay show.

I note TVN's replay coverage of Brisbane is too unreliable for my liking.

Any assistance greatly appreciated.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 6/12/2007 8:01 PM
Coins, I'm sure dd will steer you in the right direction on this topic.
He is the master of the remote record button.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/12/2007 8:48 PM
coins
 
You mention your DVD "player".  Do you mean player or recorder?
 
I have Panasonic DVD recorders with hard drives.  (Don't even consider a recorder without a HD.)
 
You need to be able to edit your recordings, to cut out stuff you don't want, so the logic of the software on the recorder is critical, IMO.  I like the Panasonic stuff, but maybe that's coz I'm used to it.
 
You can get most of what you want in the Today's Racing Tonight program, say 2am to 5am.  Just chop it up into the meetings you're interested in.
 
For GC and Twmba on Saturdays, you'll need to record the total day's Sky coverage, then chop out the guff.
 
Once a week I make a CD as a back-up.  Usually get 7 or 8 meetings on a disk no problems.
 
Definitely worth doing.  You'll never have to work again.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 6/12/2007 10:51 PM
Yep dubbledee it's a Panasonic DVD recorder with its own hard drive.

At present it is rigged up so I can only record free to air TV on the DVD recorder - the rest is on IQ along with a lot of other stuff like the Cricket World Cup final which has been there since April!

Will need to work out how to record it on to the DVD and make CD copies.

Thanks for your assistance dubbledee. Will try and make a few changes and let you know how I go.

Cheers.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 7/12/2007 6:17 AM
I have'nt tried to record from the IQ box yet but it is more than likely possable.
 
If you can do it , maybe you could just transfer from IQ to a disk what you want to keep.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 7/12/2007 8:18 AM
Yep I hope so Grats - there is some stuff on the internet about it - will have a read - looks like I might have to get a SCART cable whatever that is.

Will let you know how I get on.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 8/12/2007 12:14 PM
Much to my excitement I think I have rigged up my DVD to record from Foxtel. Thanks for your help guys.

I am grateful that luckily I have Panasonic equipment which made the whole process a lot simpler than it otherwise may have been and a Scart to Scart cable has enabled me to get it going.

There is some great info on this at the website www.ibece.org

Now I have to learn to edit my recordings.

I have one further question - do they show Toowoomba replays on the Sky race replay program - I think it is called Today's Racing Tonight?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/12/2007 1:57 PM
coins
 
Good that you're all set.  Re Twmba, you'll get them on TRT only when they race midweek.  For Saturday, you'll need to record the live show, then edit. (Use Partial Erase on the Panasonic. )

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 9/12/2007 5:12 PM
Many thanks dubbledee, mono and grats. Dutifully recorded Toowoomba and today's Sunny Coast so far. Will have lots of fun coming up this week.

I am about to find out the true capabilities of my DVD recorder!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/12/2007 1:11 PM
coins
 
Hope ya gonna share some winners with us, now.
 
Bart Sinclair reports in today's press that Natural Destiny and Mitanni are likely runners at EF on Saturday.  Shaping up as a good race.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 10/12/2007 1:16 PM
Poor old Ron Goltz rides 5 winners at Toowoomba last saturday and never got a mention.

I realise it is ONLY Toowoomba but surely 5 winners on a 8 race card deserves some coverage.

Well done Ron

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 10/12/2007 1:39 PM
Rest assured dubbledee if I spot anything, odds on it won't have escaped your eagle eye.

Will be putting some thoughts on the thread for sure - the Brisbane racing ones are my faves out of the entire forum and I enjoy contributing.

Can't guarantee winners though!

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 11/12/2007 1:22 PM
Up and running finally.

3 I have noticed from the Doomben meetings, probably fairly obvious:

FOOLISH from 1 December - got home very well but not the most tractable conveyance with a worrying tendency to miss the kick. If things go his way though he is very classy.

EASY ROCKER - started very short the other day over an unsuitable distance but hit the line hard.

MYNDOS - has had plenty of chances before EI but got home pretty well.

All Toowoomba based I think and they could all clash next start I suppose. Dunno what I would do then!

Will be digging deeper into replays from SC and Toowoomba in due course.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 11/12/2007 1:58 PM
Great stuff Coinswell, appreciate and look forward to your thoughts.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/12/2007 1:25 PM
Those old enough to remember cleaned up on Saturday when Presley won at Doomben and Teddy Bare duly saluted later at Townsville.
 
They can play up their winnings on Hey Elvis if it accepts for EF on Saturday.

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From: NineMSN NicknameRad55555 Sent: 12/12/2007 1:51 PM
DD,
 
This first starter ran a really nice race at Yarra Valley on December 1st. He missed the start a little before booting up to share the lead. He was crossed mid race but battled on well to run 4th beaten about 2.5 lengths. The class of race wasn't great but he showed enough to suggest he can win soon.
 
ELVIS AARON | Jockey: M FLAHERTY | Barrier: 1 | Weight: 57.0 |
Trainer: Ricky Maund | Penalty: 0 | SP: $9

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/12/2007 1:54 PM
Ahhh, the legend lives on.  Maybe Elvis has NOT left the building.
 
Thanks, Rad.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/12/2007 9:36 PM
Saturday's meeting at Eagle Farm will be the first to be run without the crossing at the 600 metres.
 
It's fair to say that jockeys previously rode their races to accommodate the crossing.
 
Will races be run at different speeds now?  Will jockeys start their runs earlier?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamemeynink Sent: 14/12/2007 4:19 PM
Will Owners' breathe a sigh of relief?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/12/2007 4:25 PM
If we can get them to swallow their prawns before they do.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/12/2007 11:01 PM
One of Brisbane's promising apprentices in Mattew Palmer has gone to Sydney to work with the Tim Martin stable.
 
Young Palmer opened his campaign with a winner on Kenny's World for the Murray stable.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/12/2007 5:29 AM
A very good ride it was

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 18/12/2007 3:36 PM
Does anybody know where I could a hold of the track and class records for the major racetracks in SEQ?

Any assistance greatly appreciated.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/12/2007 3:57 PM
I realize this is not what you a looking for but it's marvelous what little scraps of paper that we keep in the drawer of the computer desk
 
Don't even know how old it is.
 
 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/12/2007 4:00 PM
Just seen this interesting site
 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/12/2007 4:07 PM
I would probably have bet money that the record at Flemington for the 3200m would have been faster than Eagle Farm
 
Eagle Farm -3.15.7
Flemington-3.16.3
 
Therefore that proves the best horses run up here     (Only joking )

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 18/12/2007 5:23 PM
Many thanks Grats - I appreciate your efforts - great info.!

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 18/12/2007 5:30 PM
Looking at the records for Toowoomba does this mean West of Hollywood broke the track record last Friday?

According to the information on the website the track record for 900m at Toowoomba is 51.15. According to the race results on the Queensland Racing website WOH ran 51.01, but there is no notation suggesting that horse broke the track record.

Interesting.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 18/12/2007 9:18 PM
Done a little digging and the club's website has more up to date information than race rate - but you will note last updated 27 September 2005!

I am astonished that this race club does not have this basic info up to date on its website. I will check the other club's websites and report back.

http://www.toowoombaturfclub.com/racing/rec.php


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From: NineMSN NicknameKingMug2 Sent: 18/12/2007 9:48 PM
I reckon they would generally run about three or four 900m races at Toowoomba each year.  It is only due to EI they seem to be running a lot of short races in QLD at the moment just to get the ball rolling.  So the 900m record at Toowoomba is not the most prestigious
 
The caller said that Azzaland had either broken the 900m course record or gone very close to it when he won 2 runs back clocking 50.65.  West of Hollywood ran 51.01 so he cannot lay claim to being the fastest squib at Toowoomba

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 19/12/2007 6:13 AM
Coin, a few years back something like this had our interest at Wagga.
    I emailed them and and they were very good in that they they even rang me to say they fixed things up.
    I noticed a lot of the clubs don't update their web sites very often. I thought that in this day and age that it would be very important.
 
  

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 19/12/2007 9:57 AM
QTC has its records up to date on the web by the look of it.

According to the Toowoomba website the 900m record is held by Stylish Qualo at 50.92.

Maybe they only update when new records are set. Still it can leave people confused if it is not updated regularly as they cannot be certain if the info on the site is current.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 19/12/2007 9:58 AM
And if the caller was right when King Mug heard him the track record is now around 50.65!


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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 19/12/2007 3:41 PM
I am happy to be corrected but my research of the various SEQ race clubs websites on track records reveals the following:

Eagle Farm - yes
Doomben - yes plus race records of notable races held there

Gold Coast - nothing I could find
Ipswich - yes
Sunshine Coast - yes
Toowoomba - yes but apparently not up to date

If my research is correct, Gold Coast and Toowoomba should get their act together on this issue IMHO as this info is important to a number of punters.

One further point - is there anything wrong in putting class records on the websites either - this would be really useful.

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From: MagiC** Sent: 19/12/2007 5:03 PM
I really think that one of Australia's biggest downfalls is their inability to take up the the slack in the informations stakes in regards to racing information available to the punter ... i would love to see something simular to what Hong Kong has available on it's racing website.
 
It has race replays, audio , video ,instantly updated results , horse , trainer information and the list goes on.
 
Now i know it would be a big ask for clubs to have all the information available to the punter that the HKJC has on it's site , but i would love to see some of the clubs take up the challenge to implement some of the great features available in Hong Kong.
 
Not sure if it falls under QR racing juristriction or the individual clubs themselves to implement something like this ... but it surely would be Great  

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From: NineMSN Nicknamefourtyfour4 Sent: 19/12/2007 8:14 PM
So true MagiC HK have it all over Aus in a lot of ways. The thing with them is the HKJC get to keep all the revenue from betting turnover whereas Australia has created laws ensuring racing cant get financial control over itself. Work that out!!
That gives HK a huge amount of money to spend ensuring racing is clean, genuine and well presented. Meanwhile we have to fight tooth and nail to get any form of assistance through the EI crisis. Something has to change if we are to survive and thrive>

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From: NineMSN NicknameKingMug2 Sent: 19/12/2007 8:50 PM
Everyone always raves about the quality of HK racing etc etc.  But if HK races on a Sunday the Australian betting pools are not greatly different to the pools for Sunshine Coast or the Victorian or NSW provincials run on those days
 
So the punters voting with their wallets are saying HK racing is no better than the Australian Sunday provincial fare and I agree with their assessment.
 
I will admit the HKJC website is impressive but it is not making Australian punters bet any more on it than they do on Aussie racing without the fancy websites.  So why would any Australian club spend money and time on something that won't bring in any extra cash?
 
I would much prefer to bet on Sunshine Coast on a Sunday than smoggy Sha Tin

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From: NineMSN Nicknamefourtyfour4 Sent: 19/12/2007 9:05 PM
Kingmug
Do you work with the banks? Sounds like their logic Dont spend money unless it is absolutely necessary. Just so you know though mug most smart punters which are those that have the capability of betting on more than local racing dont bet with our local TABS, unless they are getting well overs which is generally unlikely as their bets would eliminate the overs. Also HK racing is not exactly promoted very well by Aussies. For 5 of the last 7 years Aussie has had the totally dominant trainer over there yet I havent seen his name mentioned in any local press. Can you explain that?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/12/2007 7:54 AM
Today's The Courier-Mail has departed from the traditional Friday-style guide, with the form embedded in the Sports' section.  Gratlog's not gonna like it.
 
I can see his scanning desk covered in a tattered newspaper and Mrs G less than impressed.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 21/12/2007 8:02 AM
You must have a crystal ball. You are 100% correct in all areas.
 
I've had the scissors out before Mrs G is even out of bed so she won't be happy.
 
I'll just tell her to email Sinclair and abuse him.
 
I reckon it was great the way it was. Why change

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 21/12/2007 3:24 PM
I don't use the form guide to locate winners but I do or did like the lift out feature when recording my initial scratchings.
Every now and then the people at the CM like to play around with us and change their format .
I will send in my protest and see what happens.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/12/2007 11:44 AM
You guys got the C-M form guide sorted out.  Now back in the middle.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 24/12/2007 12:01 PM
Friday will be the big test.
 
Otherwise back to emailing Bart to sort it out

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/12/2007 3:41 PM
Bart Sinclair reports in today's press that Jim Cassidy will return to race riding at Doomben on Saturday.
 
Cassidy is booked for the Thexton-trained 2yo, CHILLED, a $180,000 Redoute's youngster.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/12/2007 3:45 PM
gratlog, re your form guide comments...
 
It was sad to see punters grappling with bundles of tattered pages at EF on Saturday.  I mean a form guide is something deserving of respect, not torn around like those in last Friday's press.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/12/2007 10:55 AM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Stathi Katsidis to get serious
 
by Bart Sinclair

STATHI Katsidis believes a move to a Brisbane base will be a catalyst to a more dedicated approach to his riding career in 2008.

Katsidis is living in his home town, Toowoomba, to work with his personal trainer, former Clydesdales rugby league player Darren Ingram.

Before he went to Melbourne for the spring to partner Gold Edition, Katsidis had been living on the Gold Coast for several years.

"I think a change of scenery will be good. Brisbane is the right place for me. I'll be riding at the two city tracks and have only an hour to get to the Sunshine Coast on Sundays," he said.

Katsidis wants to form an alliance with Deagon-based trainers Shaun Dwyer and Steele Ryan.

Dwyer is open to the idea of Katsidis riding some of the stable horses but has one condition.

"Stathi will have to put in an effort at trackwork. Some of my clients are keen for him to ride for them," Dwyer said.

Katsidis has to convince everyone he is prepared to put in some hard work for an extended period.

He has a history of being easily distracted. In the past racing season Katsidis missed six months for various reasons, mostly weight-related.

He has just served a one-month penalty for testing positive to a diuretic during the Melbourne spring carnival.

During the break Katsidis let his weight climb and, under Ingram, he has had to work hard to trim off the excess.

"I am doing a lot of interval training in two one-hour sessions a day," he said.

"I tend to get very muscle sore with the workouts and have followed the footballers' idea of having ice baths to hasten the recovery."

Katsidis, who rode a winner at Ipswich on Sunday and has six rides at the Sunshine Coast today, is able to take 56kg mounts but plans to reduce that level soon.

His Sunshine Coast rides include one for Dwyer on the Octagonal five-year-old Roswald in the Signwave Maiden (1000m).

Roswald has started only once previously, for a close third in the "return to Deagon" meeting on September 14.

"He's a horse who has a long history of leg problems and we've had to be very patient to get him to the post," Dwyer said.

Four of the Katsidis rides are from the Bruce McLachlan stable, including Mr Blonde in the Thompson Building Services Maiden (1400m).


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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/12/2007 10:05 PM
I was pleased to catch an interview on Sky, between Alan Thomas and the high-profile Brisbane punter of the 1970s - Eddie Birchley, aka "The Fireman".  It's probably quite old, but it's worth a watch if you see it programmed.
 
I think it was mid-70s when Birchley hit the headlines as a fearless punter on short-priced 2yos.  Birchley was a victim of his success.  His movements were predictable.  If there was an odds-on pop in a 2yo at Randwick or Flemington, he'd fly down from GC and, on cue, would cut a swathe through the local ring betting in cash.
 
Birchley indicated to Thomas that it was the defeat of Danish Dancer at Randwick by Sheil Sail that led to a change of strategy in his punting.  DD was about 4s-on, and Birchley reportedly place $105,000 on the favourite.  Thomas was waiting for Birchley to say more, but there was no need.  Birchley's face did the talking.  He then expressed the view that today's control of racing was far more effective than when he was hitting the headlines.
 
Now in his late 70s, Birchley remains a GC resident and continues to bet on the neddies.  He limits his activities to around 100 bets a year, sometimes outlaying 5-figure amount.
 
Undoubtedly, someone who'll always have a place in Australia's racing folklore.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 27/12/2007 6:59 AM
Good memories.
I beleive he is still travelling OK , so he must have done alright in the long haul.

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From: red Sent: 27/12/2007 7:20 AM
Wow, 105k on a horse - must've been going ok to outlay that.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 27/12/2007 9:16 PM
red
 
Mr Birchley - by his own account - had $208,000 on speedster Caboul when it won in Melbourne.  Was Flemington, I think.  I remember the day clearly, and hearing Bert Bryant make a comment about the plunge.
 
Birchley had intended to place just $200,000 on the horse, but when he went back to hand over the cash for his bets at the various bookies' stands he found out his error.  So $8,000 was "on the nod".
 
The horse bolted in at about 2s-on from memory.  I don't think it raced long, but went to stud, I'd say.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 27/12/2007 9:19 PM
Astute Cranbourne trainer John Collins is a bit of a mystery man.  He doesn't seem to have a lot of horses, but every so often turns up at SC with a smart one, usually well-bred.
 
Being the trainer of Devastating would be enough to drive a person to distraction - but the horse did race well yesterday.
 
On Saturday he's represented at Doomben by 6yo Thunder Gulch gelding, United.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/12/2007 8:42 AM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Weather determines Hebitda's path
 
MICK Mair is keeping a close watch on the southeast Queensland weather as he considers a venue for his rising talent Hebitda over the next two days.

And opposition trainers are watching Mair's movements closely with no real zeal to tackle Hebitda.

Mair has accepted with Hebitda in the Magic Millions Trophy Plate (1000m) at Toowoomba today and the Equipment Funding Plate (1110m) at Doomben tomorrow.

Hebitda is likely to start an odds-on favourite if he goes to Toowoomba, the option favoured by Mair last night.

"I'll check the track conditions again in the morning but I am leaning towards Toowoomba if things stay the same as they are now," Mair said.

"The horse has done well but I don't want to go all the way up there just to run on a wet track."

The forecast is for showers to continue over the next four or five days, but both venues were in pretty good order late yesterday.

There are four youngsters dually engaged at Toowoomba and Doomben.

The other three are Saratoga and stablemates Que and Rufescent. Saratoga's trainer Ron Maund admitted he would prefer to dodge Hebitda.

When the pair clashed at Eagle Farm on December 15, Hebitda swept past Satatoga inside the 200m and raced away to win by more than four lengths.

"He looked a bit too big and too good," Maund conceded.

Mark Webb is another who will be doing a last-minute check on track conditions and the weather pattern before finalising plans for his two-year-olds.

"At the moment I would say Rufescent and Rocket Gal will run in Toowoomba and Que will line up at Doomben," Webb said.

"Hyde Park may be scratched from the Toowoomba race, which would be his third run in a fortnight.

"Hebitda looks hard to beat whereever he runs but it's amazing how horses can find it hard to win at their first run on the Toowoomba track.

Quizzical will be having her first look at Clifford Park in the $100,000 XXXX Trophy (1100m).

Her trainer Bruce Hill will be saddling runners – stablemate Symtina is in race three – for the first time in his own name, although he previously had taken runners to the track in his role as stable foreman for trainer Gerald Ryan.

"I know it has a record as a graveyard for visiting horses but Quizzical Lady is a very tough filly who puts in every time," Hill said.

Trainer Bruce McLachlan is giving Key Bar Nights a strong winning chance, despite her outside draw at 17.

"I thought she was a Melbourne spring filly until the horse flu ruled that out," McLachlan said.

"And she will be hard to beat in this with any sort of luck from the draw."


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From: dubbledee Sent: 1/01/2008 3:26 PM
Hard To Catch's younger brother, HETHEL, is set to resume EF tomorrow (Race 5 #3)

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From: dubbledee Sent: 1/01/2008 3:28 PM
Meant to add that ex-Sydney apprentice Tim (?) Axon has teamed up with Pat Duff and is engaged for Hethel.
 
Axon will be a welcome addition to the Brisbane ranks.

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From: Geoff Sent: 1/01/2008 8:55 PM
For reasons best known to the decision maker, Eagle Farm has been chosen as the venue for the Midweek Comp.
I have therefore had a reason to have a sqizz at the fields, and the first question that cause a furrowing of my brow was
 
Don't many horses win races in Queensland?
Three maiden races with fields with upwards of 85 starters.
 
Okay, you jokers know the form, how about having a lash at the Midweek Comp?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 1/01/2008 9:07 PM
Geoff
 
Most mid-weekers in Brisbane will programme 3 or 4 Maidens.  However, the current programming is influenced to a degree by EI.  QRL is doing its best to put the races on to suit the available horses.  They set up their races some weeks back based on the numbers and class of horses which trainers advised would be available.
 
(I can answer you without fear of contradiction that horses DO win races in Qld.  And about twice as many more run placings.)

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 2/01/2008 7:46 AM
QR look to move Saturday's Gold Coast meeting due to wet weather

c/ Courier Mail

Qld Racing will look at moving Saturday's Gold Coast meeting to avoid predicted wet weather.

Chief steward Reid Sanders said QR racing manager Paul Brennan would be involved in any talks on a possible transfer to Brisbane or the Sunshine Coast.

"The problem is that everywhere seems to be getting the rain," Sanders said.

The forecast is for rain to continue on the Gold Coast until Friday. A meeting scheduled for yesterday was called off because the track was unfit for racing.

Sanders, who will monitor the track daily, said the fact there would be new ground because of a relocated rail would help.

Acting track manager Steve Andrews has no doubt the meeting will go ahead if there is a break in the weather.

"All we need is 24 hours without rain. It dries very quickly," Andrews said.

The rail was out 6m for the meeting yesterday but will be moved back to half a metre on Saturday.

"The inside 2.5m has not been raced on for four weeks. The other three metres have been used at meetings since," Andrews said.

He said a section between the 800m and the 400m was the main cause for concern because it was sheltered from the drying winds by a shopping complex.

Gold Coast trainer Gillian Heinrich has no fears about starting Ghetto Blaster on a heavy track and is eager to see how he performs.

The vastly improved Ghetto Blaster is unbeaten this campaign and looks the main threat to Mitanni in the $100,000 Goldmarket Handicap (1300m).

"Ghetto Blaster loves the mud. The horse could not be going any better," Heinrich said.

She also has Spur Me On nominated for the feature race but he hates wet tracks and will not run in those conditions.

Heinrich said Glen Colless had booked himself for the ride on Ghetto Blaster a month ago and would make the 53kg limit without drama.

"I don't know how Mitanni handles the wet but he will have 61kg and that is a big difference," Heinrich said.

Mitanni is a noted wet-track performer and Shane Scriven was kind to him when he scored last start because he had the race won halfway up the straight.

Ghetto Blaster is likely to be rested after he runs in the Goldmarket and Heinrich has ambitions to run him in the Stradbroke (1400m) at Eagle Farm this winter.

Umaprince's trainer Mick Hicks is hoping for a break in the weather, because the six-year-old does not handle wet tracks.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 2/01/2008 9:27 PM
Brisbane racegoers will remember smart Gold Coast mare COME ON EILEEN many years ago.  She won a Gold Nugget and I think might have been successful in Sydney too.
 
Her grand-daughter MY JOLIENE won handsomely at Eagle Farm today.  Connections had her well-primed for a first-up tilt and were rewarded with nice odds.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 2/01/2008 9:38 PM
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From: dubbledee Sent: 2/01/2008 9:41 PM
I waited for She's In The Guide, mate.  What a win.

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From: NineMSN NicknameHangman1050 Sent: 2/01/2008 9:46 PM
I think that T Axon is ex adelaide not Sydney
Hangman.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 2/01/2008 10:11 PM
That would be correct, Hangman.  Though I doubt anyone will have taken any notice of me.
 
Hopefully it won't impact on his stint up here.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 3/01/2008 2:40 PM
What is going on - is this bloke referring to this forum?

http://www.brisbaneracing.com.au/article.php?current_article=947

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From: MagiC** Sent: 3/01/2008 2:58 PM
Lol .... looks like he may have taken offense to some of the badgering he has copped from some members of this forum
 
I think a measure of a persons true character is being able to take critism as well as you can dish it out

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 3/01/2008 3:06 PM
I'd guess he was talking about this forum and also guess he is a regular contributer here.
 
Only guessing but he sounds like a bloke on here.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 4/01/2008 11:05 AM
I see in the paper that Brett Cavanough is bringing a team of horses to stable up here at Eagle Farm. Some of which could be racing as early as next week end.
 
Jason Holder is back on the Gold Coast after a stint in South Aussie. I doubt if he will have a meeting to go to tomorrow but stranger things have happened.
 
Ron Maund and the owners are tossing up as to who will ride Gold Edition. It is between Stathi Katsidis and Jim Cassidy according to Ron..GE is due to return on the 2nd Feb at Flemington over the 1000m Lightning.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/01/2008 1:31 PM
I was chatting with the Cronins, owners of Rockem at EF on Wednesday.  He's out of  Telltina, who's they owned .  They have raced several of her offspring, too, and raced T's mother, Bernalla.
 
Did we know that TELLEM had died of botulism?  I guess it would have been reported, but in case it hasn't, RIP TELLEM.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 4/01/2008 2:40 PM
Sorry to hear about Tellem especially dying of botulism - particularly awful. He was a very honest sprinter and a great weight carrier.

I liked the way Rockem won on Wed and Katsidis completely outrode Byrne IMHO but Jim learnt his lesson by Bernardo's race.

Re the Goldmarket Ghetto Blaster was actually scratched last year (drew 16) and the race was won by Shepishir. Have not heard about Shepishir for awhile and was wondering about the horse.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/01/2008 11:38 AM
Bart Sinclair reports into today's press that perennial performer MOTIVATE has been retired after Bryan Guy detected some soreness.
 
No champ, but he's been an honest galloper and good money-earner for a long period.
 
Sinclair also reports that Gillian Heinrich's GHETTO BLASTER and MR HEARTBREAKER are under consideration for sale to Asia.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/01/2008 12:47 PM
Late Saturday evening, four young lives were tragically lost in a semi-trailer collision on the Cunningham Highway near Warwick, just a few km ATCF from Luskin's and Smissy's property.
 
Names have now been released.  One of the victims was 20yo Nick Nolan, a member of one of Qld's long-established racing families, and grandson of one of my best mates.
 
RIP young Nick.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 7/01/2008 1:17 PM
Nerissa Cowell plans interstate shuttle

Nerissa Cowell has been granted a licence to train horses from a Warwick Farm stable, possibly to open as early as next week.

However, Cowell has no intention of turning her back on Brisbane racing.

She will continue to run an on-course stable at Eagle Farm under the management of Don Brown, formerly a long-serving senior staffer with John Hawkes in Brisbane.

Cowell, 31, and her partner Neil Jolly initially will spend a lot of time at Warwick Farm but she will shuttle regularly.

The flagbearers of the Sydney operation will be Fiveoclockshadow and Son Of Dane, the two horses Cowell took to Sydney on the eve of the equine influenza outbreak.

Both horses have been stuck in NSW since August despite Cowell's repeated attempts to gain a DPI permit to transport them back to Queensland.

"I think we will go there (Sydney) with a nice team, mainly of unraced young horses which we think have ability," said Cowell, who has been training for seven years.

"To be honest, the costs of training in Sydney are slightly cheaper than Brisbane.

"It's a good time to give it a shot. We have those two horses which are up to the standard if they come up and others who have the potential.

"But I'd never give away Brisbane for the foreseeable future. We have some very good clients here."

Fiveoclockshadow, as a result of a paddock accident in which he injured a hock, followed by horse flu problems, has raced only seven times – most recently 13 months ago.

The Langfuhr stallion's two wins both came in listed races. He was successful in the Doomben Slipper in May 2006 at his third appearance and then took out the UCI Stakes over 1410m at Flemington in the spring of that year.

Son Of Dane has not started since finishing second in the Ascot Handicap at Eagle Farm in July.




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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/01/2008 3:50 PM
Yes, interesting comment, I thought.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/01/2008 3:54 PM
Said Bob Bentley last week:
 
"But we can't afford to wait until 2009. The Brisbane Turf Club is squandering an opportunity for Queensland's State capital and the Gold Coast needs this facility underway at Palm Meadows."

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/01/2008 3:32 PM
Testing time for Brisbane punters this week.  SC tomorra; EF Friday; Dbn, GC and Twba Saturday; SC Sunday.
 
230 nominations for EF on Friday. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/01/2008 4:28 PM
Further to earlier post, Nick Nolan's funeral will be held in Warwick on Friday morning.
 
Arrangements have been made for him to be buried on his parents' property, "Noralla", at Gladfield, west of Cunningham's Gap.

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From: MagiC** Sent: 8/01/2008 5:27 PM
An absolute tradgedy, and can only imagine what the families are going through.
 
everything else seems pretty trivial compared to the loss of family and friends.
 
Our thoughts are with the family and god bless.
 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 9/01/2008 8:42 AM
Good to see Mary from Doomben threatening more legal action.
 
Poor old lawyers will be happy to hear that.
 
This time Mary is upset over losing Melbourne Cup day to those old buggers over the road. Uncle Bob from Deagon had promised that it was her turn but now has changed his mind.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/01/2008 8:56 AM
Comes as no surprise to me that the 2008 Melbourne Cup meeting would be allocated to EF this year.
 
It now goes on rotation.  There wasn't a Brisbane race meeting on Cup Day 2007 from my recollection.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 9/01/2008 9:02 AM
lol @ Mary from Doomben and Uncle Bob from Deagon.
 
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From: Geoff Sent: 11/01/2008 12:59 PM
AT was a bit tough on Hirsute after the first, imo.
 
Seemed to be slippin' and slidin' down the straight, nearly came down on her nose from what I could see.
 
Did anyone think the same?

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From: Geoff Sent: 11/01/2008 3:12 PM
Waas it my imagination, or did Kinsmate go slippin' and slidin' at about the same place in the straight?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/01/2008 9:10 PM
Bart Sinclair reports in today's C-M that QRL stewards have adjourned their inquiry into Mandy Radecker's ride on heavily-backed Classic Force at Eagle Farm yesterday.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 13/01/2008 10:15 AM
Hope she has a good defence team in place.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/01/2008 1:32 PM
From The Ear, in today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Tough game racing after the QTC upped the cost for Doomben trainers to use the horse pool.  "It would be cheaper for me to enrol my horse in a kids swimming class," quipped one Doomben trainer.

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From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Big offer knocked back
by Tony Meany

LIGHTLY raced Mr Heartbreaker will take the first step in trying to repay a $1 million debt at Eagle Farm on Saturday.

Owners Hoss and Gillian Heinrich rejected a $1 million offer from Hong Kong for Mr Heartbreaker and the decision clearly delighted Gillian, who trains the horse.

"I never took any part in the negotiations but I am glad he is staying with us," Heinrich said.

"If Hoss had taken the money he would have only spent it on trying to get other horses who might not be as good."

Mr Heartbreaker will run in the $50,000 Class 6 (1200m) and a win would return his connections $32,000.

Jockey Ric McMahon has been engaged to ride him.

Stablemate Ghetto Blaster will also stay in Brisbane after the couple also refused a $1 million offer for him from Hong Kong.

Ghetto Blaster has been sent to a spelling paddock for two weeks.

Heinrich said she would concentrate on trying to win major sprints with the gelding this winter.

"I will nominate him for the Stradbroke but the sprints are very appealing. We might stretch him out to the Stradbroke trip (1400m)," Heinrich said. "He is a different horse since we gelded him."


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From: Geoff Sent: 16/01/2008 7:28 AM
Fancy calling your horse "Mr Heartbreaker", now that's tempting fate, ain't it? 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/01/2008 9:47 PM
Trainer Brian Gentle is making a name for himself.  Bart Sinclair wrote this par in today's The Courier-Mail:
 

Previously ridden for speed, Falvalady now is being ridden patiently and she found the line with great purpose for in-form jockey Jason Holder to post a margin of a widening three lengths.

The biggest grin at the track belonged to Gold Coast trainer Brian Gentle who celebrated his first city win with Sir Teles ($5.50), then added another victory with Fools Rush In ($2.80).

Fools Rush In looked beaten on numerous occasions in the home straight but found extra under pressure to nose out Thunder Beach ($6) in the City Pacific Plate (1660m).

Gentle, 36, has come through an excellent education in his craft. Originally from Orange, he spent time as understudy to Bruce Hill in running the Gerald Ryan stable at the Gold Coast and briefly branched out on his own.

"I couldn't get enough horses on my books so I gave away training to spend time in Sydney," Gentle said.

"I had 12 months with Gai Waterhouse and then 2½ years with John O'Shea. Last March I decided to take out my own licence again."

Gentle has steadily built his numbers up to 22 horses in work. His past 11 runners have produced six winners, including yesterday's double.

 
Gentle's smart galloper Noreil has accepted for two races over the weekend.

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 17/01/2008 9:53 PM
Brian's a good operator.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/01/2008 9:53 PM
Sinclair also wrote a feature on GC trainer Kelly Doughty in today's press after her win with Falvalady at Doomben.  She's another who's a very talented operator, and whose runners should be watched very closely, IMO.
 
Doughty has forum idol Raincoat accepted for SC on Sunday.  The poor horse cannot draw a barrier.  He has 20 this time.  It might not matter up there.  Not sure he's a wet-tracker, but he's a smart galloper.
 
For those interested, the dam of Raincoat is a half sister to Starmaker, from memory.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 18/01/2008 9:50 AM
A very good class 3 at Ipswich to close the card up there today.

Some nice horses engaged including Dance Girl Dance, Magic Promenade and a couple of others. Scriven on Wireless is an important jockey change.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/01/2008 9:54 AM
Sure is, coins.  Mentioned it on BR Selections.
 
Weights are interesting.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/01/2008 12:05 PM
Apprentice Mandy Radecker was given a 6-week suspension following the inquiry into her ride on Classic Force at EF recently.
 
She will appeal the sentence.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 23/01/2008 7:25 PM
Mandy should take some lotto tickets while her luck is in.


Radecker gets 6 wks over slow ride

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Qld's leading female apprentice Mandy Radecker yesterday was suspended for six weeks for failing to give her mount every chance in an Eagle Farm race.

Radecker, 21, pleaded not guilty to the charge of not showing enough vigour on Classic Force from soon after the start to the 600m when a distant last.

Chief steward Reid Sanders also said she should have been vigorous from the 400m to the 250m in the 1200m Maiden on January 11.

Classic Force, having his second start after tailing out at his debut, ran a $2.60 favourite and was beaten almost nine lengths in finishing seventh to Edward Bear.

"I was surprised he ran favourite because he had shown me nothing and I have no idea who backed him," Classic Force's trainer Pat Duff said.

"I support Mandy's claim that she did nothing wrong and she will be appealing."

Classic Force, who was bred and is raced by Gold Coast businessman Warwick Carter, is out of former class racemare Real Force.

Radecker won the final race at Eagle Farm last Saturday on Fabiarna and recently returned from a successful riding stint in Adelaide. She had been on loan to Leon MacDonald and her riding indentures have been extended to June this year after she applied for special consideration.

Last season Radecker spent four months on the sidelines after a fall at Eagle Farm but still finished runner-up to Ric McMahon in the apprentices' premiership.


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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 24/01/2008 10:27 AM
I thought Fangles did a pretty good job to win the last at Ipswich yesterday.

As a 3yo lumped with 58kg he was conceding weight to most of his older rivals in what was a fair C2 field.

He worked hard to get the lead when Barbres made a pest of himself and they went out in a hot 34.8 for the first 600m. Really the race was set up for backmarkers had they been good enough.

Fangles was entitled to get tired in the straight which he did but had enough in reserve to win by a long neck.

The overall time was a fairly smart 1.11.12.

Incidentally in his last win on 5 January the horse ran the fast last 600m ever recorded in a 1200m race at Ipswich on a heavy track - 35.63 (according to the Racing and Sports website) when he was ridden on the pace where I think he is even more effective than when he leads.

If the RaS website is to be believed he ran a class record yesterday but I don't know if this is correct or not.

He has done a fine job this prep and has good formlines around him with an excellent second to Woody'n'Buzz at the Gold Coast a few runs back. Strong form indeed.

Will be interesting to see what the trainer does with him - I guess it will depend on how he gets over this run.

Personally, I reckon he has done enough this prep and has earned a freshen up and hopefully will come back bigger and better next time in.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/01/2008 12:30 PM

Stewards Report – Mandy Radecker

Deagon Offices –Tuesday 22 January 2008

Stewards today concluded an inquiry into the running and handling of CLASSIC FORCE from Race 3 at the Queensland Turf Club meeting on Friday, 11 January 2008.

Apprentice M. Radecker was found guilty of a charge under AR135(b) and (c) in that as the rider of CLASSIC FORCE she failed to take all reasonable and permissible measures from shortly after the start until approaching the 600m by failing to apply sufficient pressure to CLASSIC FORCE to maintain a position closer to the second last horse, namely, SPARK OF MAGIC. This failure resulted in CLASSIC FORCE losing ground from the remainder of the field.

This, in the Stewards opinion failed to give CLASSIC FORCE full opportunity to win or to obtain the best possible place in the field.

Stewards further particularised that between the 400m and the 50m, Apprentice Radecker failed to ride CLASSIC FORCE with sufficient vigour when it was reasonable and permissible for her to do so to ensure that she had given CLASSIC FORCE the full opportunity to win or to obtain the best possible place in the field.

Apprentice Radecker’s licence to ride in races was suspended for a period of 6 weeks, commencing midnight Sunday, 27 January 2008 and expiring on midnight Sunday, 9 March 2008.

QUEENSLAND Racing web news: January 23


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From: NineMSN NicknameBundynVain Sent: 24/01/2008 12:37 PM
Can I now take legal action against her because I backed it......using the stewards report as evidence?
 
JK of course.....but I can see this happening one day......hmmmmm....maybe  legal action might see a greatly increased "flurry" of action in some races.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 24/01/2008 8:41 PM
Possible correction to my earlier post re Fangles. I was relying on info on the Qld Racing Website results for the sectionals it indicates 36.32 for last 600m.

However, I have reason to believe the last 600m of the race was covered in 34.80 and they pulled up in front midway. The SMH today says last 600m 34.8s. Whichever way it was a fast time for the track and grade.

This takes just a tiny gloss off the win IMHO (though still a very good one) - makes the run of Wide Open as the second placegetter more meritorious. Could be a decent form race nevertheless.

Katsidis' ride on Sweet As was just that.

Atomic Huss put in a good performance first up there yesterday - just missing. A classy galloper.


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