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O.P. « 2008-Nov-16, 10:55 AM »
 
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From: dubbledee  (Original Message) Sent: 23/07/2006 8:43 PM
Following on from the hugely successful (and very popular) SELECTIONS and RUN OF THE WEEK threads on Brisbane Racing, it's high time we started another one...
 
This time it's for horses who are seen as non-winners, over-rated, not up to city class, etc, etc.
 
Let's see who's the first to pick a next-start winner.

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« 2008-Nov-16, 10:58 AM Reply #1 »
 
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/07/2006 8:45 PM
This time I'm going first.
 
ALLADINS LION
 
He might pick up a 1000m scamper, but he seems genuinely challenged in the cardiac department.
 

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From: triple-7- Sent: 23/07/2006 8:49 PM
I reckon Consular is over rated and past it. Can't see him winning again.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
What a might effory with 60kg at your last appearence. 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/07/2006 8:51 PM
LOL, 777.
 
I'll whisper a name in your ear on Wednesday.  It's owned by good mates, so I wouldn't wanna embarrass them.
 

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From: Monologue9 Sent: 23/07/2006 10:05 PM
La Montagna
Some on here say it can't win a race in Melb during the Spring.
 

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From: El Zoro Sent: 24/07/2006 11:47 AM
Alinghi & Chut won't win again.
 

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From: Monologue9 Sent: 24/07/2006 8:25 PM
El Zoro I think dd may have meant this post to be serious in our never ending search for that illusive winner and here we all are taking the pisser out of it.

Zoro your probably right about Alinghi but not so sure about Chut.
I see hes nommed somewhere again this week and he could win a race at Gatton or similar.
 
 

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From: Le_Thief Sent: 25/07/2006 7:04 PM
chut needs a picnic trippy to win a race. Horses usually come good after being gelded and win shorly after, he hasn't. Also when a melb horse is doing poor you take it up to qld for a win, that hasnt happened either.
 

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From: El Zoro Sent: 25/07/2006 10:53 PM
Amber Lodge won't win again on a GOOD track but will bolt in on HEAVY track, when the rain comes in March 2007.   
 

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From: Monologue9 Sent: 26/07/2006 8:48 PM
Gees I hope your right Zoro.....about the rain.
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/07/2006 11:10 PM
I doubt that Danehill colt POWER CITY will start favourite again for a while.
 
Bryan Guy has given this fellow ample opportunity to justify his sizeable price-tag, but the best he can muster is 5 placings from 10 starts.
 
Opened up $1.80 today, but again didn't finish off.
 

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From: El Zoro Sent: 28/07/2006 11:03 AM
mono, the rain is HERE already!
 
Anyone know if CHUT handles the Wet trks? Nommed for Doomben Sat & if he can swim, then you never know.
 
 
 

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From: Monologue9 Sent: 28/07/2006 11:13 AM
Zoro the only wet track form about Chut is Slow 3-0-1-0.
His mum is out of a Rory's Jester mare and RJ didn't like it wet.

That's Better in the same race looks very hard to beat.
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/08/2006 8:31 PM
Looking at Saturday's races there were several candidates, including Aerosol, La Bella Mer, Peel, and Lust For Victory.
 
I'm settling for LA BELLA MER.  She looked a potential top-liner last prep with some stunning finishes over 1400-1600m.  This time in Alan Bailey has pushed her to middle distances.  Always well in the market, she hasn't yet delivered and I'm prepared to show her the red card.
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/08/2006 6:13 PM
Red card recipient, CHUT, goes around in the first tomorrow.  Looks like a race he can win.
 
 
 
 
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From: El Zoro Sent: 14/08/2006 12:52 AM
C'mon dd, stop pushing the Chut wheelbarrow. My other Red Carder 'Amber Lodge' ran 2nd at the Coast.  but it's still not a win!
This week I'll Red Card 'Picture Book' has had a few nibbles lately but not performing as a racehorse.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/08/2006 11:44 AM
My red card of the week goes to SUCCEEDING.  She's too unreliable to be a betting proposition, IMO.  Perhaps they'll send her to stud after Saturday's effort.  No doubt her first progeny will bring many tens of thousands.  Just hope they are more interested in racing than she is.
 
CRAIGLEA BOB is on a yellow card.  Maybe he'll be improved by Saturday's run, but he did have a nice cart along and wilted the last 100.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/08/2006 9:03 PM
This week I'm showing the red card to THE BIG EASY
 
Jim Atkins perseveres with this fellow in town, but he continually disappoints.  To be fair, the horse has turned in some amazing runs at Ipswich, but I doubt he'll salute in the city.

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From: El Zoro Sent: 20/08/2006 11:55 PM
Red card to Perette, had too many chances now.
Red card to Unite & Prosper, 19 trips to Doomben for 0 wins & still only $6.90.  Was a Gympie winner 2 starts back & that's where he should return to. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/08/2006 12:06 PM
Yeah, Perette was one of my candidates, too, but she's probably off to the breeding barn and we mightn't see her again.

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From: El Zoro Sent: 28/08/2006 12:58 AM
Hee Hee  2 of my RED CARDERS ran 2nd again. "Amber Lodge" was home for all money at the 100m BUT dug his heels in! Doesn't like passing! 
"Picture Book"ran 2nd, lucky for me I was on "Rock of Mufasa" (but Picture Book stuffed my First4)
 
This week I'll Red Card "Ceffyl" & "Teletrader" & watch them closely

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/08/2006 4:16 PM
You'll already be in Amber Lodge's bad-books for red-carding her, Zoro, but you'll definitely be on the outer now you've called her a HE.
 
Plenty thought Picture Book should have won the last, but that's Picture Book.
 
So far, so good for the red-card-recipients.  Won't be long before we find a winner.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/08/2006 4:18 PM
This week, I'm going to show my red card to KING LATARMISS.
 
He's had good runs of late but doesn't seem to wanna win.  Morris rode him well Saturday and I thought he had the race won on the turn.  Again there wasn't much enthusiasm in his finish.
 
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 28/08/2006 8:06 PM
Are we allowed to red card jockeys?

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From: El Zoro Sent: 1/09/2006 12:21 AM
dd, It doesn't count if Amber Lodge wins this week in the soft going as I already have this get-out clause. Byrne won't let HER get away with outfoxing him again will he? I reckon Byrne will hit the lead at the 200m & bash the crap out of her (in a nice way) or she could possibly swan dive at the 100m & skid across the line with Byrne hanging on tight.
 

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From: El Zoro Sent: 25/07/2006 9:53 PM
Amber Lodge won't win again on a GOOD track but will bolt in on HEAVY track, when the rain comes in March 2007.  

 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 1/09/2006 12:51 PM
mono....
 
I'd reckon ya can "red card" anything or anyone.  Horses, jockeys, trainers, racetracks, race clubs, tipsters.
 
Zoro
 
Wait till she wins.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 3/09/2006 11:02 AM
A few red-carders went around yesterday and failed to salute.
 
An obvious one from the Doomben meeting is KANETOSHI MILLIONS.  He's frequently short, but rarely delivers.  To be fair to him on yesterday's run, he's going to undergo a vet check due to apparent abnormalities on pulling up.
 
Another who's a prime candidate for a red-card is IMPERIALISM.  Maybe the wet track was his undoing yesterday, but he keeps getting rolled. 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 3/09/2006 11:43 AM
Stolit was dissappointing but maybe the track caused that.

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From: El Zoro Sent: 4/09/2006 5:35 AM
dd, maybe Amber Lodge needs it muddier  have to wait til March 2007 for that.
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/09/2006 12:24 PM
The red card recipients keep getting beaten.
 
CRAIGLEA BOB is deserving of a colour change after another ordinary run on Saturday.
 
Nothing clever in sending a knock to ENTHUSIAST.  He keeps going out at short odds, but can't find the winning post.

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« 2008-Nov-16, 10:59 AM Reply #2 »
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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/09/2006 10:33 PM
Well we finally found a winner on this thread:
 
From: dubbledee Sent: 23/07/2006 7:45 PM
This time I'm going first.
 
ALLADINS LION
 
He might pick up a 1000m scamper, but he seems genuinely challenged in the cardiac department.
AL got into a 900 m scamper at GC today and WON at $2.80.
 
Apart from the above, all the red-carders have proven worthy of their recognition.

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From: El Zoro Sent: 17/09/2006 10:06 AM
dd, wouldn't be too hard on yourself about AL winning. It was a scamper as you pointed out it may get away with one.
Only heard races on radio yesterday & from the calls, Imperialism & Amber Lodge were cruising at the turn in their respective races but both returned as Non-winners again  
 
I failed to red card anything last week because of the wet track & the only one I will nominate this week is Lust For Victory. May be a knock out horse one day but will that day ever come again? I doubt it so he is now on the Red Card Registar. 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 17/09/2006 10:26 AM
Re Amber Lodge--I tend to agree with Plunger and that is a worry in itself, but these topwieghts with a claiming three apprentice on top are'nt doing to well lately

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/09/2006 11:32 AM
Zoro
 
Not cutting my wrist re Aladdin's Lion.  In fact I said to several before the race that it would win.
 
gratlog...you keep throwing up causes for concern.  Maybe best to concentrate on DVD replays of Brissy races.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/09/2006 1:00 PM
I think it's time to end my relationship with PRANG.  She was hunted up from the bad draw yesterday but found a reasonable spot mid-field.  Went backwards from there, and showed no interest in racing. 
 
She's 6yo mare and there may be other things in line for her.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/09/2006 11:00 AM
Well a few red card recipients went around yesterday.  All get beaten except our start sprinter Aladdin's Lion who staggered across the line over 900 metres at GC at the lucrative odds of $1.40.
 
I'm gonna give this week's red card to HAMAH.  Always in the market and always just behind the placings.

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From: Monolith Sent: 24/09/2006 11:57 AM
A.W.Robinson for his ride on Charvicky..If he holds his position on the turn he gets a split between the leader & Fort Custom which drifted away from fence as they straightened.Instead he was held up for 250m and only got clear final 80m to go down by a whisker.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/09/2006 11:59 AM
Yes, it should have won.  I guess Robbo has already been dealt a couple of red cards.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/09/2006 9:13 PM
Meant to add that RED HOT PISTOL is not a betting proposition either, IMO.
 
He's always had a touch of RAT in him and he definitely seems challenged in the cardiac area.  I can't yet diagnose a skeletal abnormaility, though.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/10/2006 10:35 AM
I'm gonna give this week's red card to MONO MAC.
 
He's run 9 placings from 15 runs to date, with just 2 wins.  Saturday's race look right for him but he failed to deliver.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/10/2006 8:49 PM
There are a bunch of mediocre steeds turning up for Saturday races in Brissy at this time of the year.  Many haven't won a metro race in ages, and probably never will again.
 
This week's red card goes to the Hawkes-trained SHILO. 
 
While he never gets many favours in his races, that's often of his own doing.  We've often seem him look the winner on the turn only to lie down towards the finish.  Could be argued that he was beaten by a couple of handy performers at Doomben on Saturday, but he seems to keep finding a few better.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 9/10/2006 10:27 PM
dd, I've had a few computer probs but I've earmarked a few others for the RED CARDS. First one which may suprise is WILLY LEICA, he's been a boom horse who showed some promise but either hasn't come back or is amiss? He may sneak a win again but he never is any value so RED CARD for him.
CAOS CROSS another who seems to have support but lets the side down, out he goes!  WHEEL THE LEAD probably needs a rest so YELLOW CARD for him.  
 
Saw RED HOT PISTOL was fav & you were on the mark potting him! 
 
Go Slow Red Carders!!!!
 

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From: Monolith Sent: 12/10/2006 10:48 AM
D.D...I've had a horse blackbooked for a while now called I DO BELIEVE.
It has dissapointed me several times recently,I'm prepared to overlook her flop at her most recent start at Ipswich as the track was Heavy.. Alan Bailey trains her anyway.
 
It was to run at the Sunshine Coast today over what I consider the journey it's been crying out for 1300m.It's been withdrawn, I would assume because of the wide marble. Still it's a horse that gets back and can run on and I would have thought the Sunshine Coast's broad expanses would be beneficial to her style of racing.
Anyway 1 more chance,on a dry track & over a suitable distance, if she fails next time out with all the abovementioned criteria, then I will be sacking her for life.
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/10/2006 10:59 AM
OK, can't say it's caught my eye, Monolith.  Will look out for it, though.

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From: El Zoro Sent: 15/10/2006 4:38 PM
PERSUADES has been disappointing enough to give a RED CARD. Usually handy in the market but not at the business end of his races.   


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From: dubbledee  (Original Message) Sent: 23/07/2006 8:43 PM
Following on from the hugely successful (and very popular) SELECTIONS and RUN OF THE WEEK threads on Brisbane Racing, it's high time we started another one...
 
This time it's for horses who are seen as non-winners, over-rated, not up to city class, etc, etc.
 
Let's see who's the first to pick a next-start winner.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/10/2006 4:43 PM
Agreed, Zoro.  Not to be backed.
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/09/2006 11:24 AM
The red card recipients keep getting beaten.
 
CRAIGLEA BOB is deserving of a colour change after another ordinary run on Saturday.
 
Nothing clever in sending a knock to ENTHUSIAST.  He keeps going out at short odds, but can't find the winning post.
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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/10/2006 6:13 PM
Gonna show this week's RED CARD to 3yo gelding THE CHANSTER
 
He's endowed with plenty of speed, but his one-dimensional format will always make him vulnerable in the city.  Might be being hard on him considering his poor draw yesterday, but he was beaten a long way out.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 15/10/2006 10:15 PM
dd, stewards report shows that MCahill stated The Chanster blundered at the start which may have spoiled his chances. I may still have a nibble on him e/w next start if $8+.  
 
Enthusiast slipped by without me remembering he was a RED CARDER.  
so you nearly got away with that one. Did he change trainers?
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 15/10/2006 10:52 PM
RED CARD REGISTAR (so others don't slip by)
 
ALLADINS LION (winner)
Amber Lodge
CAOS CROSS
Ceffyl
Chut
CRAIGLEA BOB
ENTHUSIAST (winner)
HAMAH
IMPERIALISM
KANETOSHI MILLIONS
KING LATARMISS
LA BELLA MER
La Montagna
Lust For Victory
MONO MAC
Perette
PERSUADES
Picture Book
POWER CITY
PRANG
RED HOT PISTOL
SHILO
SUCCEEDING
Teletrader
THE BIG EASY
Unite & Prosper
WILLY LEICA
 
Only 2 of 27 have saluted so far!
Any other forumites have horses they want to RED CARD? If you find one that has an aversion to winning, please post it here for all to see.   
 
 
 
 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/10/2006 8:07 AM
Thanks for compiling that list, Zoro.
 
Re ENTHUSIAST, he was transferred from John Wallace to Barry Baldwin on the weekend we gave him the red card.  I think it's reasonable that the red card is revoked on a stable change.
 
Re ALLADINS LION, I said in my opening post that the red card was for horse "not up to city class".  AL won at GC.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 16/10/2006 9:57 PM
OK dd, city class meaning Saturday only?? 
Same list minus Enthusiast & I forgot to add The Chanster to the list. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/10/2006 10:37 AM
Saturday class would be my benchmark, Zoro. 
 
The mid-weeks and out-of-town meets would be full of red cards.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/10/2006 3:14 PM
From: Monolith Sent: 12/10/2006 9:48 AM
D.D...I've had a horse blackbooked for a while now called I DO BELIEVE.
It has dissapointed me several times recently,I'm prepared to overlook her flop at her most recent start at Ipswich as the track was Heavy.. Alan Bailey trains her anyway.
 
It was to run at the Sunshine Coast today over what I consider the journey it's been crying out for 1300m.It's been withdrawn, I would assume because of the wide marble. Still it's a horse that gets back and can run on and I would have thought the Sunshine Coast's broad expanses would be beneficial to her style of racing.
Anyway 1 more chance,on a dry track & over a suitable distance, if she fails next time out with all the abovementioned criteria, then I will be sacking her for life.

Monlith

Hope you're aware that this steed is engaged at Royal Ipswich today.  Looks a great chance if we forgive the wet track failure.


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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 19/10/2006 5:42 PM
Give abig red card to the IPSWICH track in my opinion.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/10/2006 8:46 PM
Let's hope Monolith didn't notice that I Do Believe was in today.
 
Either way I can see a red card being shown real soon.

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From: Monolith Sent: 20/10/2006 1:32 AM
D.D, I'm afraid my paypacket is lighter again thanks to this perennial non-winner, needless to say I would have to concede here & now it's SACKED.
I am my own worst enemy for giving this horse an excuse every time it failed to flatter, oh well back to the drawing board.
 
p.s appreciate the reminder D.D & the may the Red Carders keep going down the tube .
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/10/2006 3:46 PM
Yeah, was a disgraceful performance, Monolith.  Something is surely wrong.  But there were plenty on Betfair happy to take the $1.60 the place.

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From: Monolith Sent: 21/10/2006 1:59 AM
Sure was an inglorious performance considering she was given a charmed run in transit and was still weak on the line.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/10/2006 5:10 PM
This week's red-card goes to perennial favourite PICABLU.
 
Yesterday's slowly-run race might not have been his dish, but he was entitled to hang on better, IMO.  Some horses who'd had much tougher runs were able to outpoint him easily in the run home.  Not a betting proposition.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 22/10/2006 6:26 PM
Thought WOLFMAN would be in the firing line yesterday but failed so RED CARD to him.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/10/2006 12:58 PM
Well my old mate King Latarmiss defied his red card to win the first yesterday at $5.20.
 
But that was his 5th start carrying the red card.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 29/10/2006 1:29 PM
RED CARDS to the following,
DREAM GAL prefer out of town only
ANCIENT KING not one for me
SHE's ALL GREEK had a few too many chances, time to head bush
YELL was rated as one of the top sprinters in the country 2002?, retirement looms???
 
dd, is King L now off RED Card registar? 
 
 
 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/10/2006 1:31 PM
Ummm, I dunno if they lose their red card after they win, Zoro,  Was pondering on that.
 
So far as KL is concerned, he's still carrying it for mine.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGojeune1994 Sent: 29/10/2006 1:54 PM
Haven't seen it for a while but am sick of backing Gloucester Road

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From: Monolith Sent: 29/10/2006 2:03 PM
I concur Gojeune with your comment on Gloucester Road. It needs all the breaks to go it's way as I tends to race rearward & relys on a good tempo on up front. I really hope it's racing days are over, as it also proved a costly conveyance to me last preparation.
 
D.D your redcarding of King Latarmiss was well warranted. I always thought he was more a wet tracker than dry. I will say this, take a look at his Lismore Cup run, that was a run that indicated to me he did possess some intestinal fortitude, hence I forgave him for his previous substandard performances and had little on him in that weak affair yesterday.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGojeune1994 Sent: 29/10/2006 2:41 PM
King Latarmiss was also scratched from Toowoomba Cup to run yesterday

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/11/2006 10:47 AM
CAOS CROSS carried a red card to win the last at Royal Ipswich on Thursday. Finished off my double, so I won't knock it.  It had the run of the race, and even then, staggered across the line.
 
We can't be too hard on anything that failed at EF yesterday, so I'm going back a week or so and showing the red card to LA BELLE VITESSE.  I realise she hasn't been well-ridden of late, but I won't be outlaying any hard-earned on her till she does better.
 
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 7/11/2006 12:07 AM
Yep dd, Caos Cross was one of my Red Cards, paid $4.60 at "Ipswich" on "Thursday!" 
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/10/2006 8:07 AM
 
I said in my opening post that the red card was for horse "not up to city class".  AL won at GC.

CC still will struggle on Sat, city class, so retains his Red Card. 


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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 7/11/2006 12:10 AM
Forestreno was pitiful on SAT at E Farm so Red Card for him.  

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From: Monolith Sent: 11/11/2006 5:11 AM
Forestreno is a bookmakers dream..gets back and needs luck. The track never suited him 1st up ...needs it firm as he can get it to acquit himself up to his best.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/11/2006 10:39 AM
I put MERSEY BEAT on a yellow card a few weeks back, but after his weak effort yesterday at short odds, I'm handing the red card to him.  He found a good spot one out just behind the speed but still had trouble passing a couple of tired leaders.
 
Not a city betting proposition, IMO.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 12/11/2006 11:01 PM
CIRCUS MAXIMUS runs OK & may get away with a mid-weeker but not up to Saturday class so Red Card for him.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/11/2006 7:41 PM
We might be a bit harsh showing the red card to some of our equine friends, but we don't send them to the glue factory!
 
Note this item from a few weeks back on justracing.com
 

So I am pleased to advise readers belatedly that the winner [of the glue factory run of the week] from last Saturday week’s racing in Brisbane was Buzz. Forget a children’s hero who shares part of the same name - Buzz Lightyear - this is Buzz Chaff Bandit and it is about a “lightyear” since he won a race – at Toowoomba on June 11, 2005 to be exact.

Buzz the racehorse is 8YO and whilst it is acknowledged he’s consistent, his best days are behind him. Consistency is well and good, but he gets unsuspecting punters money every time he goes around, so really we are better off without him. He’ll scream home and has “get on me next time” written all over him, but next time he doesn’t find the line first and has more excuses than an unfaithful husband. In fact I would think with a name like Buzz he probably has a big female following and is in fact an omen bet for a lot of lonely women (or are they just "men haters") in our society who are without a male in their lives.

 

He’s never won a race in town. The owners come to Brisbane and get all dressed up in their finery each time he starts, so they can hopefully pose in the winner’s circle with their faithful steed – and each time they have to leave the course downcast. It must be so emotionally draining. I’ve had to even go easy here on canning Buzz too much, just so they don’t go to the nearby Gateway Bridge one day after the races and stop up the top, put the hazard lights on – and do a free fall by using an umbrella as a parachute! They just don’t need to dress up – it is pure overkill – they may as well skip the deodorant, the pre-race shower and the nice clothes as whilst having a winning photo of Bandit Buzz winning at Boulia is maybe a possibility - if he didn’t find the flies too annoying - getting a winning photo at Eagle Farm or Doomben is just a pipe dream.

 

Buzz is aptly named – as that is the first word of what I would like his name changed by Deed Poll too by racing authorities – Buzz Off.
 
Next start was at Doomben last Saturday.  And God bless his big heart, BUZZ steamed down the outside under Ms M Price's persuasion to hit the front on the line.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamewaideene Sent: 16/11/2006 8:40 PM
SIR BREAKFAST needs to be walked up and down very close to the winner's stall before  Race SIX  at EF Sat as he has not tried it for size in 15 outings.
 
Yet he has won two trials in that time!
 
By my reckoning he has been in the first four six times in those runs since his last win last year when D Nikolic was aboard.
 
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 16/11/2006 10:22 PM
The BUZZ basher ate humble pie! What a bad judge he must be.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/11/2006 4:27 PM
Zoro, I hope you haven't been premature with CIRCUS MAXIMUS.  I agree he's been ordinary, but his run last Saturday in the BUZZ race was pretty good.  Genius rider on again tomorrow, and the extra distance will suit.  He's taking on a tuff field, but will be in my quaddie - although it'll probably be all over by the last.
 
I'm gonna give a red-card in advance.  That's SKY MOUNTAIN.  I thought he had some scope as a young horse, but he's run some terrible races when fancied.  He likes it wet, but nevertheless, I'll be advising anyone who listens to give him the big  whenever he fronts up.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/11/2006 2:48 PM
Quite a few carried their red card with pride yesterday.  From memory:
 
CIRCUS MAXIMUS
KING LATARMISS
SIR BREAKFAST
SKY MOUNTAIN
THE CHANSTER
 
All went

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/11/2006 3:06 PM
I'm giving this week's red card to MALTA.
 
He was well-fancied in yesterday's Brisbane Handicap, and just when it looked like he was going to feature, turned it up.  I've never been a fan of him, but now he's older and carrying a bit more weight, I can't see him winning in town.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 19/11/2006 4:24 PM
I must admit dd he was rather ordinary.
Think he needs the sting out a bit these days.

He was positioned to put in a good finish but faded.

A very good run by his stablemate and now as he steps up in distance will be winning again.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 19/11/2006 10:47 PM
Had 2 to Red Card this week but dd beat me to Malta so my Red Card goes to Red Pill. Runs fairly, I just doubt he will win in town again being 8yo who has only placed 11 times in 37 attempts. Prefer to see him in the paddock.  
 

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From: Monolith Sent: 20/11/2006 8:24 AM
Red Pill was slaughtered on Saturday..covered plenty of extra ground yet still stuck on gamely for 4th..despite being beaten a convincing margin.
I think he will be winning a race this prep..Maybe Toowoomba or Ippy is his go.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/11/2006 10:11 AM
Monolith...Red Pill has been conning punters (including myself) for a long time.  He's got an awkward action and can't be ridden as one would want.  He's always back at the tail, and trying to get off the track.  He might fluke a race when they go along at break-neck speed, but I reckon the red-card is justified.
 
Zoro...apologies for pinching your choice, but I reckon there were a few more on Satdy that qualified.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 26/11/2006 7:32 AM
The once popular TOULOUSE LAUTREC ran 8th in the QLD CUP over 2 miles & that's about as close as he's gonna get, 3 miles won't help his cause either. Red Card for him.

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From: Monolith Sent: 26/11/2006 8:09 AM
All I can say is hail D.D ....The form your in presently I would not dare go against your viewpoint...lol.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 26/11/2006 8:15 AM
waideene (post 75) will be choking on his/her BREAKFAST this morning. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/12/2006 8:14 PM
Well MALTA carried his red card to victory on Saturday.  I gather it was a sparkling ride by Katsidis?
 
I finally found one that WON at its next start. 
 
Not gonna remove the red card though.  MALTA can keep wearing it, for mine.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 4/12/2006 8:38 PM
Geez it's a tough yard in here, lol. How the hell Malta got a jumper to begin with I'm not sure after a some tricky runs, then he has the hide to win from an ordinary marble in a competitive race and he still gets pegged.   Was it too much sun or the crook sun screen?  

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 4/12/2006 8:43 PM
Must admit I tended to agree with dd regarding red carding Malta .....but ,that was before I'd heard from my spy.
Really glad I didn't jump off because the 7's was very rewarding last Saturday.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 4/12/2006 9:01 PM
You are right re the ride....It was a beauty.

If you get a chance to watch a replay ,have a close look at about the 200( think) where Stathi waits for the inside run which would have closed , then hooks the horse around the heels and the rest is history.
He has been in great form over the weekend and has plenty of strength which he needed to carry unaided the big xmas hamper that was part of the jockey prize for winning the race.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/12/2006 9:08 PM
I notice 777 didn't jump on me at the time I pulled out the red card.  And it might have been different had Stewart not left his whip at the start that day.
 
Pleased you stuck, Mono.
 
The good thing is that it was a quaddie-free day for me, so no damage.


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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 4/12/2006 9:26 PM
The quaddie numbers were there for all to see dd.

Unfortunately I never had enough faith in my ability to put it on.

By the way I did notice the boss of QR walking side by side with a BTC committee man.
Think they may have shared lunch upstairs together.
In hindsight I suppose it was'nt really that strange considering the BTC don't do lunches any more.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 4/12/2006 9:27 PM
hee hee dd, we both fell into the Malta bear trap but you claimed him first!  
 
Pay Me - 15 starts at EF now for ZERO wins & still only $5 chance.
Red Card material.
 
 
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 12/12/2006 12:17 AM
Doonan gets my Red Card this week. Needs to go 'out of town'.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/12/2006 1:18 PM
Zoro...did you see this item in the Stewards' Report:
 
DOONAN, which put its head down as the start was effected, failed to jump with the field and lost considerable ground. Prior to the declaration of correct weight, trainer H. Page made application for DOONAN to be declared a non runner. After taking evidence and viewing the official video footage, stewards were satisfied that DOONAN was afforded the opportunity of jumping with the field and therefore declared the horse a starter. Trainer H. Page was advised that DOONAN must trial satisfactorily in an official trial prior to its next race start

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 14/12/2006 2:06 PM
No I did not see that.  I was a fan of Doonan early in his career but have dropped off now. Will stand by the Red Card.

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 14/12/2006 3:08 PM
He trialled satisfactorily at Deagon on Tuesday.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/12/2006 11:48 AM
I'm giving this week's red card to PROUDLY AGRO.
 
He's now 7 and although it hurts me to show the door to horse who's been good to me over the years, I can't see him beating the current Brisbane city class.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGojeune1994 Sent: 19/12/2006 5:04 PM
I know she didn't race this week but I saw her entered for the Summer Stakes and I have to say I am getting sick of Serenote - has run some top races in her life but gee she's run some shockers as well

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 20/12/2006 9:59 AM
Red Card to Dawn's Pride,  is eligible for easier races. Mid-week might be the go.  

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/12/2006 10:10 AM
Yeahhhhhhhh...but watch him, Zoro.  No luck on Saturday (again).

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From: dubbledee Sent: 27/12/2006 7:59 PM
Well our mate MALTA took his red card to Randwick on Saturday.  I dunno if our red cards cross interstate boundaries, but I don't see why not.  Sure it was tough company, but it was sad to see him come in at the tail of field.
 
I'm giving this week's red card to Noel Doyle's 3yo filly ANCIENT IMPULSE.  I tipped her a few runs back and she raced well.  But she's been well fancied her past two outings - admittedly in good fields - and both times she's failed to impress.  Let's see if she can prove me wrong next outing.

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From: Monolith Sent: 28/12/2006 3:02 AM
Blue Oyster would be my candidate for an infamous Red Card..Can't seem
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From: dubbledee Sent: 31/12/2006 9:50 AM
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Gonna show this week's RED CARD to 3yo gelding THE CHANSTER
 
He's endowed with plenty of speed, but his one-dimensional format will always make him vulnerable in the city.  Might be being hard on him considering his poor draw yesterday, but he was beaten a long way out.
THE CHANSTER turned on the speed yesterday and was way too good in the run home. Good luck to those who backed him.
 
I'm giving this week's red card to BOLD REASON.  He showed a deal of ability as a young horse, but of late has been most disappointing.  I thought he was all set to win the last yesterday after he got a slow lead, but didn't finish off.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 3/01/2007 10:03 PM
Didn't get a good look at any races so will wait til next week.
Will compile updated list soon, do Sat winners get eliminated from the list? 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 3/01/2007 10:08 PM
I'd reckon the red card stays in effect till the dealer withdraws it, Zoro.  I'm leaving it with THE CHANSTER for now.


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« 2008-Nov-16, 11:06 AM Reply #7 »
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/01/2007 9:20 PM
Plenty of red card carriers went around during the week, and all maintained their rating.  Some that come to mind include:
 
Red Pill
Malta
Proudly Agro
She's All Greek
Circus Maximus
Sky Mountain
Blue Oyster
 
I'm showing this week's red card to MINOA.  He keeps getting good runs, but can't finish off.  Dunno what Morrisey has in mind for him, but I think he's out of depth in metro racing.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 8/01/2007 8:29 AM
 
RED CARD REGISTAR
 
ALLADINS LION (winner)
ANCIENT IMPULSE
ANCIENT KING
Amber Lodge
Blue Oyster
BOLD REASON
CAOS CROSS (winner) 
Ceffyl
Chut
CIRCUS MAXIMUS
CRAIGLEA BOB
Dawn's Pride
Doonan
DREAM GAL
ENTHUSIAST (winner)
Forestreno
Gloucester Road
HAMAH
I DO BELIEVE
IMPERIALISM
KANETOSHI MILLIONS
KING LATARMISS (winner)
LA BELLA MER
LA BELLE VITESSE
La Montagna
Lust For Victory
MALTA.(winner)
MERSEY BEAT 
MINOA
MONO MAC
Pay Me
Perette
PERSUADES
PICABLU
Picture Book
POWER CITY
PRANG
PROUDLY AGRO
RED HOT PISTOL
Red Pill
Serenote
SHE's ALL GREEK
SHILO
SIR BREAKFAST (winner)
SKY MOUNTAIN
SUCCEEDING
Teletrader
THE BIG EASY
THE CHANSTER(winner)
TOULOUSE LAUTREC
Unite & Prosper
WILLY LEICA
WOLFMAN
YELL
 
Gathering quite a list. Have noted the winners but know most of these won mid-week!
PS: Laid Doonan yesterday.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/01/2007 9:34 AM
There are plenty of losses there, Zoro.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 8/01/2007 7:58 PM
Gee you can be tough dd.
Take a look at Malta's run last Saturday.

Excellent run and still managed to pick up 8 grand for the effort,
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From: Monolith Sent: 12/01/2007 6:08 AM
VIVE LE ROI  ..Given a perfect run in transit yesterday by Raedecker, yet when asked for the supreme effort could not get out of 1st gear. This horse seems to
find winning a difficult task.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/01/2007 3:37 PM
Yeah, he's no champ, Monolith.
 
RED HOT PISTOL went out at short odds yesterday and franked his red-card status.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 14/01/2007 11:26 AM
A few red carders ran around but none got up Saturday. Willy Leica was the notable bomb out. My F4  was highjacked by a red carder in the last at Gold Coast. Teletrader ran 4th at $66. 
This week I'm red carding Gumnuts. Was flying 12 mths ago & looking a real good horse in the making but I don't know what happened to the poor fellow. Maybe a hidden injury, he is going so bad I can't see how he can possibly ever trouble the judge again.   

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/01/2007 11:30 AM
Zoro...you needed only to be on my email list to get Teletrader.
 
Willy Leica again pulled up with heart problems.  Gumnuts is another who has a large vet file.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 21/01/2007 5:21 AM
A few red carders went around at EF, most notable bomb out was Picture Book. 
I had my best ever return on the punt yesterday snaring the F4 for a 1/4 on BR5.Ticket cost $12   You little beauty!!!!!!!!!!! & take note dd that a red carder ran 4th! (I didn't make the same mistake as last week)
Go Myndos you little champion!!!!!!!!!& must have been a great ride by  Kristy Banks. The same gal who rode home Carry on Kosa a few weeks ago.  
 
PS: Note that Red Hot Pistol won at the Gold Coast yesterday.(but I know it doesn't count as it wasn't a city win)
 
 
 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/01/2007 12:23 PM
I reckon it's time to introduce a new category.  This time it's the dreaded BLACK CARD.
 
Red cards are reserved for horses who aren't up to city standard.  Black cards will be allocated to those who aren't up to ANY standard.  It's expected that before the horse will be shown a black card, it will previously have had a red card attached.
 
The first black card goes to MALTA
 
He got everyone in again yesterday - some who would be embarrassed to admit it..

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 28/01/2007 12:33 PM
Rumbird a candidate for some sort of card, dd ?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/01/2007 12:45 PM
Ummmm...I'd prefer not at this stage, j.r.b.  But you're free to deal cards, too.
 
He's getting costly, I agree.  His good runs are very good.  Just can't seem to get to the post in time.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 28/01/2007 1:13 PM
You had a dig a few weeks back about Bold Reason DD, How many times has this horse been scratched, he seems to be in every week and scratched nearly all the time.
 
I would have a guess and say for every start he has had, he has been scratched 3 times.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 28/01/2007 1:18 PM
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Sorry Geoff.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/01/2007 1:26 PM
Well if you call this "having a dig", well I had a dig.
 
I'm giving this week's red card to BOLD REASON.  He showed a deal of ability as a young horse, but of late has been most disappointing.  I thought he was all set to win the last yesterday after he got a slow lead, but didn't finish off.
 
Bold Reason started at Twba last night and ran unplaced at $2.40.


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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 28/01/2007 1:50 PM
Malta going to the paddock should make you happy dd.

The horse certainly didn't "suck" in any of the connections .
I was more than happy the price I got E/W Grand Lover.

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From: NineMSN NicknameManikato Sent: 28/01/2007 2:01 PM
DD, I was very impressed with Moonbi Nymph yesterday. Was held up in straight & rattled home.

Have been following for a while & would expect that this curiously named individual will be a winner in the not too distant future. Hasn't won since Nov. 2005!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/01/2007 2:12 PM
Yeah, was a good effort, Manikato.   She had trouble getting a run around the 200 from memory.  But that was a mare's race, so I'd suggest caution.
 
Although I banned her some time back, I've got happy memories of her.  Was sitting in a pub in San Francisco in Nov 2005, dialled in to UNiTAB, took a treble, and MN arrived in a photo in the last leg to give me a big bundle of dollars.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 28/01/2007 9:10 PM
3 red carders ran at EF on Saturday.
Malta $7  -  8th
Picablu $7 - 10th(last)
She's All Greek $31 - 9th
 
This week I'm giving one to PREND. May win mid-week but not on Saturday anymore!
 

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From: Monolith Sent: 29/01/2007 8:20 AM
Prend actually was promoted to the winners list after a recent 2nd to a horse that returned a positive swab and was disqualified. So thats 2 metro win this prep for Prend.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/01/2007 12:01 PM
Yeah, correct, Monolith.  Doesn't do the punters much good though, eh?
 
Mono, Malta won't lose his black card just because he's gone for a break.
 
Not that I have anything against Rob Heathcote, but I'm showing the red card to another of his steeds this week. 
 
We've all been waiting for CHARVICKY to show us the form that knocked plenty out of a huge quaddie at Doomben last year. Or was it the year before?  Was back at the tail on Saturday but found a rails run in the straight and did nothing.  So let's add her to the list.

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From: Geoff Sent: 29/01/2007 12:08 PM
So let me get this straight.........to get into a black book means you have potential, but to get a black card means you're a no-hoper.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/01/2007 12:11 PM
No, you're all confused again, Geoff. 
 
The black card is worn around the horse's neck when it races to warn punters of its lack of potential.
 
The horses (themselves) don't know when they're in the black book.
 
Hope this helps.

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From: Geoff Sent: 29/01/2007 12:38 PM
Oh, then it's of no use to me..........I only back smart horses.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 29/01/2007 7:26 PM
I hear there has been a couple of red and black cards placed around the necks of a few committeemen dd.

Hope your head is holding up well. lol

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 29/01/2007 7:35 PM
DD, what is your opinion on Charvicky?
 
First run back was good but Saturday was hopeless.
 
Should I stick for one more run?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/01/2007 4:55 PM
gratlog
 
Re Charvicky, my post above suggests I don't think you should keep backing her.  But I'm probably not the person to ask - mono is the Charvicky groupie.  But just remember he's also a Malta man.
 
Charvicky has run some sound races in good company.  I guess I've seen her fail too many times when she's been fancied.

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From: Monolith Sent: 2/02/2007 1:58 AM
I concur gents... Charvicky is unreliable & a gay deceiver, the red card should have been slapped on it's forehead ages ago

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From: Monolith Sent: 2/02/2007 2:06 AM
What on earth is doing with S.Seamer - run of outs almost 70 now

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Pretty damning stat, Monolith.  But it would come as no surprise to those who saw the SS rides on Lasoron and Low Profile not so long back.


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From: NineMSN Nicknamevedder_69 Sent: 2/02/2007 12:24 PM
Lasoron has been extremely impressive since!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 2/02/2007 12:45 PM
And before, too, vedder.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 2/02/2007 9:50 PM
dd do you have to keep bringing up that "Low Profile " ride.

We are all trying hard to forget about it.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/07/2006 11:10 PM
I doubt that Danehill colt POWER CITY will start favourite again for a while.
 
Bryan Guy has given this fellow ample opportunity to justify his sizeable price-tag, but the best he can muster is 5 placings from 10 starts.
 
Opened up $1.80 today, but again didn't finish off.

POWER CITY resumed from a spell at GC yesterday and won his Maiden.  But it wasn't the same Power City.  Bryan Guy was keen to send him to the surgeon and the horse appeared yesterday as a gelding.

PC did a good job in getting to the line, and I now think it's reasonable that his red card status is now revoked. 


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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/02/2007 11:21 AM
Giving this week's red card to 5yo mare YOUR LION EYES
 
She looked promising a year back, but has been given more than enough chances.  Yesterday she was served up surprisingly short and didn't raise hopes at any stage.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 6/02/2007 12:12 AM
A few red carders failed to flatter on the week-end.
Aladdins Lion $4 - 7th
Prend $12 - 7th
Sir Breakfast $5 - 8th
 
This week I'm dealin' one out to Chasin' Tail. Not going well at all. 
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 6/02/2007 7:58 PM
At least it's living up to it's name.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/02/2007 11:55 AM
Several red-card carriers went around yesterday with INdistinction.
 
Some I noticed:
 
Circus Maximus
Minoa
Picture Book
Proudly Agro
Red Pill
 
I'm giving this week's RED CARD to Down To Earth.  He fronted up in a very winnable race at EF on Friday, was well fancied, but again skied the towel.  I'm wondering why it's taken me so long, but he's finally shown the door.

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From: wily Sent: 11/02/2007 1:16 PM
You can throw in B N Stewart after his crap ride on Angel Girl yesterday

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/02/2007 1:42 PM
No, he's a genius, wily.  Angel Girl has a list of convictions as long as Peter Foster's. 
 
Take a peek at Stewart's super effort on Damigos.  (I think you're letting your pocket rule your brain - and that's fatal in punting.)

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 11/02/2007 6:33 PM
RUM DUM can go back to mid-weeks, may pick up a win there but he can forget about Saturday racing.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/02/2007 6:50 PM
j.r.b
 
Did you end up showing a red-card to RUMBIRD?
 
Earlier item from justracing.com.au
 
GLUE FACTORY RUN OF THE WEEK [ More Items ]  
This is a likely candidate for the glue factory - Rumbird -airborne, before he did his usual trick and flew home and ran second at Eagle Farm on 27/1/07. It is best he goes away silently, as he hasn't won for over a year now and was $2.80 when he got rolled this day. Bookmakers should consider having a statue of horses like him erected in a "Bookies Hall of Fame".
07/02/07

Bookmakers must find it hard to keep a straight face when they are besieged by punters with a fist full of green notes wanting to donate more money to their retirement fund. They have to stand on their stands and threaten their clerks with physical harm and/or the sack, if he or she should change the meaningless expression on their face when the client is “donating” green notes to the non-charity, non tax deductible entity.

And so it came to pass that Rumbird stepped out at Eagle Farm last Saturday week. He was in the last race – “The Get Out Stakes”. Bookies opened the gelding up at $2.50 even though he had proven he was incapable of winning a race in the city for the previous 51 weeks (1/2/06). Bookies becoming red faced when suffering from acute embarrassment after opening him so short, eased him out to a more generous $2.80. The mug punters thought that was money for jam and so they moved in and placed their money on the Gold Coast needy.

Rumbird did his usual caper of getting back, running on late, before he eventually clocked in a fast closing second to No Doubt At All.

 

Rumbird’s CV is not exciting by top class equine standards. It is a fair call that he will never make it to the Hall of Fame, as all it shows that he has done in life is won a Maiden at Eagle Farm by 1.25 lengths and a Class 3 at the Gold Coast – in a photo.

 

He is one-dimensional, in that he goes back to last and runs on. If they try to ride him pretty and closer, he can’t finish his races off. No one disputes he can run a blistering last 600 sectional, but he is just another proven example of a horse that can scream home after doing no work early - but rarely win.

 

On closer investigation, his first problem can be found in his parentage. He’s unfortunately by, as the name implies, Catbird - and that’s like having two away sick in a football grand final. From roughly 270 individual runners, Catbird has been able to throw only two horses that have been capable of winning above Group 3 level – and they are both questionable commodities. Diego Garcia won the 2006 Todman Stakes (Group 2) and Cats Fun won the 2006 Group 1 Western Australia Derby, which along with most other Derby’s in Australia should only have about Group 3 or Listed status – I just wish I was on that black type committee to sort all that rot out. Diego Garcia has run only one placing since his Group 2 win (a 3rd beaten 4.3 lengths), whilst Cats’ Fun has not been able to even run a placing in six more starts since his Derby triumph, so you wouldn’t want to sit around thinking that Rumbird will get any better with age.

 

This horse Rumbird is constantly in the market and is overrated. He needs to go to his maker, or be retired from the racetrack and go camp drafting - just so the poor punters of Australia can stop contributing copious amounts of loot to the “Bookies Benevolent Fund”.


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From: j.r.b. Sent: 18/02/2007 7:39 PM
Not really, dd.
 
I just avoid the races Rumbird frequents.  

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 19/02/2007 7:43 AM
dd, is this the same journo that bagged Sir Breakfast? If so, he isn't going too well.
 
j.r.b, I read it as you were baiting dd to try to get him to Red Card Rumbird, but dd didn't fall for it. 
 
My Red Card for the week goes to 'My Chinese King' who has been disappointing in his last few runs.
I could easily be wrong with this one, espec if he now spells & comes back well for next prep. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/02/2007 11:37 AM
I think ya right about j.r.b. and Rumbird, Zoro.  He was dangling a bait in front of me.  I can assure you I'm cautious about any posts that emanate from south of the McIntyre.
 
Re MCK...yeah, he was disappointing on Satdy, but I guess he's suffering from vertigo and will now head for a spell.
 
I'm giving this week's red card to Grand Lover.  He was home for ya tea-money on Satdy but simply refused to do his best.  I doubt he'll be winning in metro class.


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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 23/02/2007 4:44 PM
We've all been waiting for CHARVICKY to show us the form that knocked plenty out of a huge quaddie at Doomben last year. Or was it the year before? Was back at the tail on Saturday but found a rails run in the straight and did nothing. So let's add her to the list.

She is hard to find but today she did look nearly a good thing with the way the race was to be run.

An added bonus was she was the 2nd leg of the double which paid a healthy $128.20

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/02/2007 5:06 PM
Yes, mono.  It was a nice double.  God bless her little
 
15:06:29 BR DD $8.00 - 2 7 8 13/1-3 5 @ $0.50 D $64.10
  END OF TRACE

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 23/02/2007 11:24 PM
RED CARD REGISTAR (haven't won since carded)
 
ANCIENT IMPULSE
ANCIENT KING
Amber Lodge
Blue Oyster
BOLD REASON
Ceffyl
Chasin' Tail.
Chut
CIRCUS MAXIMUS
CRAIGLEA BOB
Dawn's Pride
Doonan
Down To Earth
DREAM GAL
Forestreno
Gloucester Road
Grand Lover
Gumnuts
HAMAH
I DO BELIEVE
IMPERIALISM
KANETOSHI MILLIONS
LA BELLA MER
LA BELLE VITESSE
Lust For Victory
MERSEY BEAT 
MINOA
MONO MAC
My Chinese King
Pay Me
Perette
PERSUADES
PICABLU
Picture Book
PRANG
PREND
PROUDLY AGRO
RED HOT PISTOL
Red Pill
RUM DUM
Serenote
SHE's ALL GREEK
SHILO
SKY MOUNTAIN
SUCCEEDING
Teletrader
THE BIG EASY
TOULOUSE LAUTREC
Unite & Prosper
VIVE LE ROI  
WILLY LEICA
WOLFMAN
YELL
YOUR LION EYES
 
 
RED CARDERS WHO HAVE SALUTED (either SAT winner or mid-week)(I'll sort out next time)
ALLADINS LION (winner)
CAOS CROSS (winner) 
CHARVICKY (winner)
ENTHUSIAST (winner)
KING LATARMISS (winner)
MALTA.(winner) (BLACK CARDER)
SIR BREAKFAST (winner)
THE CHANSTER(winner)
 
REVOKED
POWER CITY(winner)

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/02/2007 9:57 AM
Thanks for compiling the list, Zoro.  I tend to forget them on occasions and put them in multis.  As you suggested, the majority of wins haven't been in metro class.
 
BTW, maybe it should be made clear that Malta got his black card after he won.
 
This week I think the decision is pretty easy: NEXGEN.  Backed like a certainty and got a trail behind the leader.  Skied the towel a fair way out and sent quaddie and treble punters into apoplexy.  Alan Bailey's tried him as a stayer and he failed.  Can't see much scope for the horse in the metro area.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 25/02/2007 11:19 AM
Mr Doyle & Angel Girl get my vote this week. Both in the market & both disappointed. They will pick up a few wins mid-week but I will be looking around them when they come to town.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 2/03/2007 10:45 PM
Keep you eye on the 5 running around tomorrow.  
R3 Chasin' Tail,
R4Grand Lover
R8 Proudly Agro, Ceffyl, Picture Book.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 4/03/2007 8:23 PM
Well there were 3 red carders in BR8 & 'Pictured Book' $7 saluted.
He was one of mine, so I will now revoke the red card.  
 
This week I'll red card 'The Pianist'

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/03/2007 12:37 PM
Zoro, you might live to regret your decision to revoke the red card on PICTURE BOOK.  While I was leading the cheering on Saturday, we should not forget that he's got plenty of tricks and needs the race run to suit.  Saturday's was his race.
 
This week I'm taking the bat to TESTIFY.  We keep making excuses for him, and he's always in the market.  Time to show him the door.

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From: NineMSN NicknameAntitab Sent: 5/03/2007 12:40 PM
DD
 
Saturday might have been Picture Book's race but he had a lot of help from Sheree Drake.
 
 For a horse that usually races reasonabley close to the pace Tropiqualo was one of the best slaughters I have ever seen.

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From: Monolith Sent: 5/03/2007 12:53 PM
Did you see the time they ran in Testify's race D.D. And the amount of work he was forced to do early stages I thought the effort was commendable,but you seem
as though you've made your mind up already

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/03/2007 1:00 PM
Antitab...everyone's saying that Tropiqualo was a certainty beaten.  Maybe.  The horse would never have got an easy lead, and I have no idea why connections thought they would.  The bump at the start was minimal, and as it turned out, it got a pretty cosy cart in the race behind PB who raced 3-4 wide for the entire journey.  Tropiqualo sure ran on well, but there was plenty of merit in PB's run - whether I backed it or not.  Another point ... when I back Miss S Drake, I don't expect Jimmy Byrne rides.
 
Monolith...yeah they went along, but Testify was carrying just 52.5 kg. I expect to be proven wrong next run.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 6/03/2007 8:51 AM
Tend to agree with you dd about Testify. He puts in but seems to come up short on Saturdays. Having said that I'd be happy to back him in the mid-weeks.  

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From: NineMSN NicknameGoJeune94 Sent: 6/03/2007 10:56 AM
God bless that last in Brisbane - I got a bit back from my missed Sequalo horse exacta of the Saturday prior by boxing all 3 Sequalos in the tri - $545 for $6 quite happy with that!

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 6/03/2007 7:40 PM
Yeah and the first four wasn't bad either.
Always value in the last at Brisbane

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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/03/2007 7:49 AM
I think it's time for another BLACK CARD.
 
Nexgen is getting past a joke.  We could be excused for thinking he's a bookmaker re-incarnate.  Ridden back in the field on Saturday, he looked to have the race at his mercy, but again refused to do what was necessary.  To add insult to injury, not only did he ruin his own chances, but he also put paid to the hopes of a couple of others around him.
 
Black card to NEXGEN.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/03/2007 12:29 PM
Testify carried his red card to victory on Saturday. 
 
Monolith suggested I was being premature in my criticism, and was proven correct.  Let's see how many more he wins.
 
This week's red card recipient is LION SAFARI.  He found a weak affair on Saturday, had Byrne steering, yet still didn't raise his backers' hope one bit.  No metro prospects, IMO.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 19/03/2007 9:01 PM

Hmmm dd, I lost badly on Testify  but made up a few $ on Angel Girl & Nexgen. Overall still a lousy day on the punt. Easy come, Easy go!

This week I'm red carding Time And Dandy. 9 runs at the track for NO placings is enough reason for me! 


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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/03/2007 8:00 AM
Not good news about Testify, Zoro.  The post didn't come quickly enough for you. But today's another day.
 
Sure was a disappointing run by Time And Dandy.  Definitely deserving of a red card.  Makes ya wonder which one turned up to beat Sovereign Dream at Doomben.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGoJeune94 Sent: 20/03/2007 7:48 PM
RUMBIRD!!!!! Always starts fave never wins - has to have everything go perfectly - SPUD!! 

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From: Monolith Sent: 21/03/2007 7:10 AM
I only got square on Testify D.D..Nothing I can skite about .
 
I just thought A.Coome lost all his nous when he rode it in 4th place behind Shabourne Regal. It was also a little stiff behind Demolir when it blundered at the start with 58kg and was only beaten 2 len.
 
Surely S.Scriven is worthy of your prestige ride of the week accolade

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From: Monolith Sent: 21/03/2007 7:12 AM
I just noticed you already nominated him

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From: Monolith Sent: 25/03/2007 9:24 AM
Charvicky has to be the horse from hell

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/03/2007 11:16 AM
Yeah, depends which one ya referring to though, Monolith.  I'm waiting for Monologue to come in and tell us he dashed away from the wedding and had the tri 5 times.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 25/03/2007 12:20 PM
Nah not quite dd.

Out of courtesy we were asked to switch off all mobiles during wedding and reception.
Naturally being a law abiding citizen I did what we were asked.

Shortly after the wedding I found a quiet spot and there was a text message from the leak in the stable to have something on .

By then way to late, and didn't see the result until I got home where I weeped tears of blood for at least an hour. lol

Thats Racing.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 25/03/2007 8:54 PM
Well Charvicky gets the  from me. Just a little speculator after following the comments on this thread.
 
7. Charvicky 46.00 6.00 Back 24-Mar-07 06:48 270.00
 
Paid $21.00 on Qld TAB so got more than double the odds. Sweet finish to a tricky day.
 
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 25/03/2007 9:02 PM
Red card to Paradise Dancer. If she was gonna win on a Saturday, it was yesterday. Had in-form jock, good barrier, in the market & ran her usual honest sort of race but not quite up to it.  

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/03/2007 12:51 PM
Good result with Charvicky, Zoro.  What a nice ride.  Shame Roman Squire couldn't have got the same run.  He must have lost 8 lengths around the turn.  But that's his style of racing.
 
On Paradise Dancer, she was campdrafted at the 800 by Northern Game who was racing most ungenrously.  Haven't seen the head-on, but I'd guess she was 6 horses off the rails. I thought her run was OK under the circumstances.  I notice she gets her head up, too, which is a worry.  Let's see how she goes from here on.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/03/2007 12:53 PM
This week I'm showing the red card to Blood 'N' Bone.  He's too inconsistent for me.  Three weeks back he had a race in his keeping, but threw it in.  Saturday's run when well backed was close to disgraceful.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 1/04/2007 9:39 PM

He's done it!

He's WON!

And in the city too!

 

 

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RADIO TAB 3-2-1 Late Mail 2 1200M FINE GOOD
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4   BI AKA 8.80  
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From: dubbledee Sent: 2/04/2007 12:44 PM
Yep, he's back for sure, Zoro.
 
I don't believe we've shown the red card to MESMERISING?  If we haven't, it's been a serious oversight.  I "sacked" her months ago, but still I put her in my quaddie at Doomben on Saturday.  Like lots of mares, she hasn't fulfilled her promise.  Surely she'll be off to stud this season.  I'll never tip her again.


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From: NineMSN Nicknameryanrumpy Sent: 3/04/2007 5:03 PM
 Re  Mesmerising
I was told last Saturday that the mare is likely to do her future racing in Victoria.  Victorian Forumites  -you have been warned  !!!

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My recipeints are a developed print between Sir Success & Lion Safari..the later got me in Sat..alas !!! never again folks.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 3/04/2007 7:12 PM
Monolith
 
Lion Safari is already on the list:
 
From: dubbledee Sent: 3/19/2007 11:29 AM
Testify carried his red card to victory on Saturday. 
 
Monolith suggested I was being premature in my criticism, and was proven correct.  Let's see how many more he wins.
 
This week's red card recipient is LION SAFARI.  He found a weak affair on Saturday, had Byrne steering, yet still didn't raise his backers' hope one bit.  No metro prospects, IMO.
 
So you wanna give him a BLACK card?  I guess this means SIR SUCCESS goes onto the red list.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/04/2007 10:14 PM
Pleasing to see that MESMERISING has turned up in Monday's EF fields.  Has found a nice barrier, too.

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From: Monolith Sent: 5/04/2007 12:51 AM
No D.D - I'll leave that unenvious task to you

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/04/2007 2:27 PM
Zoro...your mate Paradise Dancer won at Monto (!!!) after its Doomben failure.  Hope ya got on.  LOL.

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From: ShortHalfHead Sent: 6/04/2007 2:33 PM
Don't read too much into that form going by this story as PD wasn't even in the big race of the day

Trotters thunder at the Monto pig races

Last Update: Monday, March 12, 2007. 3:19pm AEDT

By Jodie van de Wetering

Trotters thunder down the straight and the losers are left with mud on their snouts when pink porkers vie for the championship in the annual Monto Pig Races.

The pig races are an annual fundraiser for Monto's rugby league football club. Three years ago, the idea of racing pigs in Monto was hatched by then-secretary of the club Tracey Pattie.

It helps that Tracey and husband Matthew run a piggery - and for the last six weeks, they've been training the two-month old racing pigs in the finer arts of running.

"Pigs love to eat," Mrs Pattie explained, "We put the milk at one end of the course, and the pigs at the other - they have to run to get to the food."

There race day featured a four race program over 30 metres on a firm track. There were eight pigs in the field, plus one last minute ring-in. The pigs raced under names like Javelin Jamin and Bigbarfly. Butcherboy had a lot of support, especially amongst the local youngsters, but the unofficial word from the trainer was that any pig could win.

Before each race, the pigs were auctioned. The highest bidder became the temporary owner of the pig for the duration of that race. All the money raised went into the piggybank, and at the end of the race the funds were split between the Monto Football Club, and the owner of the winning pig.

Meanwhile, back in the athletes' quarters, the potentially prizewinning porkers were oblivious to the money riding on their backs, relaxing under a cool shower to keep the heat at bay before the big race.

The man holding the hose was pig owner, breeder and trainer Matthew Pattie, who also had the delicate job of convincing the pigs to wear their racing silks.

The bar was open, the pigs were getting into their silks, and then... It rained. But soon enough the rain stopped, and the clouds parted in time for a stunning sunset. And then, it was time for the main event.

The overall winner was Javelin Jamin', pig number one, resplendent in purple and green.

But Matthew said despite their excellent performance, these pigs face the same fate as any other pig bred for the table - a ride to teh local meatworks.

But for these little pigs, that's all down the track.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 6/04/2007 2:57 PM
Monto eh? It's all about placement.
 
Notable red carders doing the rounds at EF tomorrow.
ANCIENT IMPULSE  R4 $5.50 fav
Grand Lover  R6 $11
PROUDLY AGRO R7 $31
TESTIFY R7 $11
 
Picture Book (revoked) R7 $31
 
 
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 8/04/2007 1:11 PM
Well none of the red carders got hot (2 were single figures)
This week I will add 'Cotton Fingers' to the list.
He won his maiden at Ipswich 1700m (dead trk) in early March. He's only a 3yo with 12 starts under his belt but think he will not be up to Sat class. 
He will be suited mid-weeks & country circuit.        

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 8/04/2007 8:41 PM
Proudly Agro won the 7th race at the Sunshine Coast today.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 8/04/2007 8:54 PM
Proudly Agro is Barry Bowditch's horse is'nt it?   Which brings me to ask where is Joe? Is he suspended?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/04/2007 9:00 PM
Didn't Joe get several meetings off due to a running and handling inquiry at Royal Ipswich a few weeks ago?  Horse trained by Steele Ryan.

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Nice run by Game On dd


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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/04/2007 9:31 PM
Yes, super effort, Mono.  Didn't have it my double and it scared me somewhat. LOL.  The running double down here with PA into My Flight paid $137.  Remember MF ran a great race at EF a year or so back?  She's had problems but looks quite smart.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/04/2007 11:13 AM
Red-card-carriers MESMERISING and PARADISE DANCER both ran 2nd at Eagle Farm on Monday.
 
Mesmerising had the run of the race and coming to the turn looked certain to win.  It wasn't long after that she remembered her status on this thread and was looking for a soft bed.
 
On the other hand, PD's run was full of merit.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/04/2007 2:42 PM
I think it's time to show the red card to GREENFINDER.
 
The stable held high hopes for this fellow, but he's been a disappointment on numerous occasions.  On Saturday, when Scattergun looked beaten on the turn, the race looked a gift to Greenfinder, but he merely plodded home behind the placegetters.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 16/04/2007 7:51 PM
Nessuno gets dealt the red card this week. He's been a good horse (won 13/50 & $358K) but I reckon if he wins anymore it won't be in the city on a Sat. Still will throw him in the multiples at the provincials.   

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 17/04/2007 9:41 PM
RED CARD REGISTAR (haven't won in city on SAT since carded)
 
ANCIENT IMPULSE
ANCIENT KING
Angel Girl
Amber Lodge
Blood 'N' Bone
Blue Oyster
BOLD REASON
Ceffyl
Chasin' Tail
Chut
CIRCUS MAXIMUS
Cotton Fingers
CRAIGLEA BOB
Dawn's Pride
Doonan
Down To Earth
DREAM GAL
Forestreno
Gloucester Road
Grand Lover
GREENFINDER.
Gumnuts
HAMAH
I DO BELIEVE
IMPERIALISM
KANETOSHI MILLIONS
LA BELLA MER
LA BELLE VITESSE
LION SAFARI
Lust For Victory
MERSEY BEAT 
MESMERISING
MINOA
MONO MAC
Mr Doyle 
My Chinese King
Nessuno
Paradise Dancer
Pay Me
Perette
PERSUADES
PICABLU
PRANG
PREND
PROUDLY AGRO
RED HOT PISTOL
Red Pill
RUMBIRD
RUM DUM
Serenote
SHE's ALL GREEK
SHILO
Sir Success
SKY MOUNTAIN
SUCCEEDING
Teletrader
THE BIG EASY
The Pianist
Time And Dandy
TOULOUSE LAUTREC
Unite & Prosper
VIVE LE ROI  
WILLY LEICA
WOLFMAN
YELL
YOUR LION EYES 
 
BLACK CARDS
MALTA (won then BLACK CARDED)
NEXGEN
 
RED CARDERS WHO HAVE SALUTED SO FAR
(not sure who actually won on a SATURDAY) help dd!
CHARVICKY
TESTIFY
SIR BREAKFAST
THE CHANSTER
ALLADINS LION
CAOS CROSS
ENTHUSIAST
KING LATARMISS
 
 
REVOKED
Picture Book
POWER CITY
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/04/2007 9:52 PM
Gee, Zoro, and impressive List Of Losers there.  LOL.
 
I didn't realise Pay Me was on the list.  He deserves a black card after what he did to us on Easter Monday.
 
Saturday winners from memory are Testify, Enthusiast, King Latarmiss. The Chanster won on a public holiday.
 
BTW, it was a top run by Mono's mate, Charvicky on Saturday last.  She might well be causing a   very soon.

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RED CARD REGISTAR (haven't won on SAT in the CITY since carded)
ALLADINS LION
ANCIENT IMPULSE
ANCIENT KING
Angel Girl
Amber Lodge
Blood 'N' Bone
Blue Oyster
BOLD REASON
CAOS CROSS        (Won IPS 1700m 2/11/06 THUR)
Ceffyl
Chasin' Tail
Chut                         (Won Darwin 1200m 31/3/07 SAT)
CIRCUS MAXIMUS
Cotton Fingers
CRAIGLEA BOB
Dawn's Pride
Doonan
Down To Earth
DREAM GAL
Forestreno
Gloucester Road
Grand Lover
GREENFINDER.
Gumnuts
HAMAH
I DO BELIEVE
IMPERIALISM
KANETOSHI MILLIONS
LA BELLA MER
LA BELLE VITESSE
LION SAFARI
Lust For Victory
MERSEY BEAT 
MESMERISING
MINOA
MONO MAC
Mr Doyle 
My Chinese King
Nessuno
Paradise Dancer    (Won Monto 1400m 31/3/07 SAT)
Pay Me                   (Won EF 1200m 9/4/07 MON)
Perette
PERSUADES
PICABLU
PRANG
PREND
PROUDLY AGRO    (Won SCST 1200m 25/3/07SUN, Won SCST 1300mSUN 8/4/07)
RED HOT PISTOL
Red Pill
RUMBIRD
RUM DUM
Serenote
SHE's ALL GREEK
SHILO
Sir Success
SKY MOUNTAIN
SUCCEEDING
Teletrader
THE BIG EASY           (Won IPS 1350m 4/4/07 WED)
The Pianist
Time And Dandy
TOULOUSE LAUTREC
Unite & Prosper
VIVE LE ROI  
WILLY LEICA
WOLFMAN
YELL
YOUR LION EYES 
 
BLACK CARDS
MALTA (Won EF 1600m 2/12/06 SAT then promptly BLACK CARDED)
NEXGEN
 
RED CARDERS WHO HAVE SALUTED ON A SATURDAY
CHARVICKY (Won DBN 1350m 24/3/07 SAT)
TESTIFY(Won EF 1200m 17/3/07 SAT)
SIR BREAKFAST(Won EF 1200m 25/11/06 SAT) 
THE CHANSTER(Won DBN 1020m 30/12/06 SAT)
ENTHUSIAST(Won EF 1200m 14/10/06 SAT)
KING LATARMISS (Won DBN 2100m 28/10/06 SAT)
 
 
REVOKED
Picture Book(Won DBN 1110m 3/3/07 SAT) then revoked
POWER CITY(Won GC 1200m 3/207 SAT) then revoked 

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 17/04/2007 10:30 PM
dd, think most of this list is correct. I mucked that up about Charvicky (you're right wasn't red carded before win just mentioned by someone as a possible nomination)& I also just realised that Pay Me was on the list! Getting too many to keep track of sometimes.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 17/04/2007 10:50 PM
From: <NOBR>NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro</NOBR> Sent: 4/12/2006 8:27 PM
Pay Me - 15 starts at EF now for ZERO wins & still only $5 chance.
Red Card material.

Now I know it's just a matter of practice. It was a MONDAY though.

9   PAY ME 59.20 11.70  


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From: NineMSN NicknameGoJeune94 Sent: 18/04/2007 12:57 AM
Sorry but on average we're doing pretty well in picking out the spuds!!!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/04/2007 8:10 AM
Good effort, Zoro.  As you say, the list is building to a considerable size.  Some are probably in retirement.  Maybe we should revoke their red card status on retirement since they might end up as someone's pet.
 
Re Charvicky, she has indeed been shown the red card.  I said this on 29/1, and I recall Monolith endorsed the decision soon after....
 
We've all been waiting for CHARVICKY to show us the form that knocked plenty out of a huge quaddie at Doomben last year. Or was it the year before?  Was back at the tail on Saturday but found a rails run in the straight and did nothing.  So let's add her to the list.
 
Also, I think we should agree on policy for interstaters (particularly Victorians) and NZers that fly in for a quick raid over the WC.  Now among them there will certainly be some who deserve a red card.  We can mention them on this thread, but I'd think it'll make our local list a tad unwieldy?

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From: Monolith Sent: 18/04/2007 9:00 AM
Gloucester Road is still there in my blackbook
 
Can anyone shed any  on his future?
 
Been off the scene 255 days now
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/04/2007 9:33 AM
Most pleased to see that the gate-god has given Mesmerising ANOTHER chance to defy her red card in the opener at EF tomorra.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 22/04/2007 1:08 PM
Well 5 red carders ran yesterday with 1 winner & 2 3rd's.
 
'Pay Me' $7.20 drove a stake thru the  when he WON Race2  EF 1400m (& now has his SATURDAY win)
Mesmerising ran 3rd in R1 as did The Big Easy in R2.
 
Proudly Agro & Sir Success ran unplaced.
 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/04/2007 10:55 AM
Was a good effort by TBE, Zoro.  Might be another case of   coming up.
 
This week I'm adding CHEVRON ISLAND to the red-card pack. He looked a fair galloper last prep and won well at EF last month.  But his two runs since have bordered on disgraceful.  Maybe there's an explanation that has yet to be found. but until then, he's on the not-to-be-backed list for me.


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« 2008-Nov-16, 11:12 AM Reply #14 »
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/04/2007 9:08 PM
The gate gods smiled on MESMERISING yet again.  She has the rails on Saturday over 2100m.  She's determined to shed her red card.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGoJeune94 Sent: 28/04/2007 1:56 AM
As much as you all know I love my Sequalos but I have just about had QUALO - week as the proverbial IMO

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 30/04/2007 2:28 PM
A few ran on sat with:
Aladdins Lion 2ND $13  (top run)
The Pianist 11th $21
Dawn's Pride 12th $12
Mesmerising 5th $7
Greenfinder 10th $31
Picablu 12th $10
Charvicky 17th  $15
Enthusiast 8th $51
 
Now I'll add Primus to the list. Sure he's a raider but will go home with an empty sack.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/04/2007 8:26 PM
From today's The Courier- Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Primus
 
Mesmerising
 
Galen

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 30/04/2007 8:29 PM
Agree with the first 2 but I wouldn't be sacking Galen just yet.

If they can get him to settle during his races he could take out a major race up here during the winter.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/04/2007 8:54 PM
No red cards from me this week.  They're all on the list already.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 30/04/2007 9:25 PM
Didn't see the Courier Mail today so that's freaky.
I just think Primus will be aiming too high & is a rung under top class.   

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/04/2007 9:30 PM
No doubt they're copying us, Zoro.  Take a read of Ride of the Week, and Run of the Week.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 1/05/2007 9:34 PM
Maybe there is a spy amongst us......

Or maybe someone does a bit of Moonlighting.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/05/2007 11:28 AM
Wouldn't be a Saturday without red-card-carrier Mesmerising fronting up.  I bet she's dirty at having to start from barrier 2 or 3 tomorra.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 4/05/2007 11:29 PM
The following red carders are doing the rounds tomorrow.
 
R1 Rumbird,The Big Easy,BlueOyster&Kanetoshi Millions(4 in one race)
R2 Mesmerising
R4 Ancient Impulse
 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/05/2007 11:27 AM
Interesting that our famous red-card-carrier MESMERISING has several gear changes today. Winkers OFF, Tongue-tie ON, Blinkers ON.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/05/2007 8:39 PM
The red-card carriers did nothing to change their status yesterday.
 
Recidivist galloper Mesmerising has worn us out.  Taken to the lead, she was beaten a long way out and finished at the tail.  Since this was her home track, she had the rails, she had gear changes, she is now given a dreaded BLACK CARD.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 6/05/2007 10:35 PM
Red card results
R1
Rumbird $5 8th
The Big Easy $8 4th
BlueOyster SCR
Kanetoshi Millions $41 7th
R2
Mesmerising $11 LAST
R4
Ancient Impulse $31 8th
 
Vitesse Dane gets slapped with a red card this week after a disappointing effort.  

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/05/2007 3:21 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Three horses to SACK:
 
Vitesse Dane - they copied this thread AGAIN
 
Frosty
 
My Son Day


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« 2008-Nov-16, 11:12 AM Reply #15 »
 
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From: Monolith Sent: 8/05/2007 12:15 AM
I know its only a provincial campaigner but SCARED is a dead set prolific bridesmaid .
 
Let its backers down at Ipswich today as $2.50fav

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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/05/2007 9:34 PM
Numerous red card carriers and even a black carder maintained their "high-risk" status on Saturday.
 
This week I'm showing the red card to DENMARKET.  I realise he's had problems but I can't see him winning a city race in his current form.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/05/2007 3:38 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Lady's Opinion
 
Deception Bay
 
Same Samir

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From: Monolith Sent: 14/05/2007 4:45 PM
Nothing at all wrong with Deceptions Bays run
 
which gibberrer said to sack it D.D?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/05/2007 5:21 PM
The post is anonymous, Monolith.
 
I agree with you.  It wasn't DB's race on Saturday.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 14/05/2007 10:25 PM
Spark Of Life is another southerner that I'm happy to put the red pen through.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 21/05/2007 12:26 AM
Will add De Beers to the list after another disappointing effort.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGoJeune94 Sent: 21/05/2007 12:40 AM
Be careful Zoro look at the flak I copped when I bagged Spark of Life!!
 
I see Rumbird got beaten again - quelle surprise!! 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/05/2007 12:56 PM
GJ, did you see Rumbird's run at Scone?  It was some effort, believe me.  I realise he's been a "bookies' horse" to date, but I haven't written him off as a winner of a decent metro race.  But don't ask me when.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/05/2007 1:03 PM
 From Monday's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Cent Per Cent
 
Rose of Sharon
 
Falaise

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 26/05/2007 12:33 AM
9 Red/Black carders in for tomorrow.
 
R1 Grand Lover.
 
R2 Blood n Bone, Doonan, Nexgen, Sir Success, Charvicky.
 
R4 Proudly Agro, Qualo.
 
R5 Pay Me (bloody won again last WED)
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/05/2007 1:11 PM
From toay's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Prince Vilhelm
 
Sam Samir
 
Media

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 28/05/2007 11:51 PM
No red carders placed last week-end.
 
Adding Zoe's Lad to the list, his record at Dbn not good with 1 from 11. Has won a couple lately at Sunshine Cst & prefer him back there from now on.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/06/2007 3:53 PM
BLOOD 'N' BONE gave a lie to his red card by winning the second yesterday.
 
Black-card carriers NEXGEN and MALTA continue to justify their status.
 
I've been disappointed in HARBOUR MAGIC in this 3 runs since his good effort on resuming this campaign.  I'm giving him a red card.


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« 2008-Nov-16, 11:13 AM Reply #16 »
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/06/2007 1:49 PM
Nexgen continues to rob punters' pockets and justify his black card status. Went around at $6.60 on Saturday, and again looked likely to score until he saw the winning post.
 
I'm yet to be convinced that there are horses who "don't wanna win", but this fellow is starting to sway me.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/07/2007 4:54 PM
Nexgen is due to line up in the third at EF on Saturday.
 
Comment in Best Bets:  Getting costly, looked to have every chance last start same grade as this.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 6/07/2007 8:44 AM
'Getting' costly? That is an understatement. Nexgen has been ever since he won a good race narrowly last winter which I remember well as I was on him. In hindsight very lucky! But they can make mugs of us all and he could do that tomorrow.

Personally I'd throw Masai Pride into the sin bin as well.

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From: Delta Sent: 8/07/2007 6:55 PM
Hee hee, he got the punters again at Grafton

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/07/2007 7:43 PM
Yeah, Delta.  I gotta look at the film again, but he did cop a big check when he was about to run into the race at the 200.  But we gotta remember it was NEXGEN.  He was last to leave the stalls, too, and Treweek had to ride him hard to get into a midfield spot.
 
Maybe next start.

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From: Delta Sent: 8/07/2007 7:50 PM
We are on the same tram DD.... whoops same train - if ridden quietly.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 8/07/2007 7:56 PM
After yesterday, I'd add Showbiz Kid to the list

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From: NineMSN NicknameManikato Sent: 8/07/2007 10:31 PM
You were right DD.
I have definitely backed Countess Bathory for the last time.
She's probably already red carded!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/07/2007 2:53 PM
I didn't think Ms Bathory's run was all that bad, Manikato.  Maryann T's had her just a fortnight.  Dunno where the horse will head from here.  I think plans are to send her to stud this coming season.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/07/2007 1:41 PM
Many of us will have forgotten Craiglea Warrior.  He's started short in Brisbane on numerous occasions with punters almost invariably leaving their money in the bag.  After a period of exile, he turned up again in the last yesterday.  Was another good run, but we gotta remember who it is.
 
I think it's time to show GUERROUJ the red card.  He'll keep running good races in these 1600 m events at Doomben, but I reckon he has little chance of a Saturday metro victory.
 
One who's definitely on watch is October Grey.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 15/07/2007 3:08 PM
Especially when up against Group 1 winners.

Your a hard man to please dd.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 15/07/2007 6:38 PM
Agree dubbledee - October Grey is in my sinbin. His first run this campaign has flattered to deceive. Am starting to think his Weetwood win was a fluke.

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From: NineMSN NicknameBrisburghPhil65 Sent: 15/07/2007 7:51 PM
His Weetwood win was a fluke! The track was a disgrace that day. The run of Hard to Catch that day though stands out in the memory. Nothing could make ground from the back that day but he did the impossible and then went on to win the BTC Cup or similar?
 
OG got me in last time at EF. Thought he was well weighted there but had the ideal run and didn't finish off. His overall win rate is pretty poor so best to stay away. Wet track might suit him though as he at least won that Weetwood on a track that could be best described as 'yielding'.

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From: NineMSN NicknameHeathledgerr1 Sent: 15/07/2007 11:17 PM
It certainly was no fluke in the weetwood....drawn in with M.Cahill 16 to 1 ... massive overs...and then Hard To Catch a month later.... wont forget that one!!!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/07/2007 9:40 AM
Looking at October Grey walking around the enclosure, you'd have doubts if he'd see the day out.  Maybe he's taking time to get back in form, but his past two outings haven't been very encouraging.
 
There certainly was an element of "fluke" about OG's Weetwood win. And most would agree that HTC's performance was exceptional.  But let's not forget that OG has staged some classy performances apart from his Weetwood win.


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« 2008-Nov-16, 11:14 AM Reply #17 »
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/07/2007 10:56 AM
There'll be two black card carriers racing at EF tomorrow.  NEXGEN and MALTA.
 
Will they BOTH win?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 20/07/2007 11:42 AM
Re. October Grey - maybe he has staged some classy performances apart from the Weetwood, however, usually amongst the beaten brigade...

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 21/07/2007 4:55 PM
Let's add Enrique to the list. He is a nag.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 21/07/2007 5:05 PM
Updating my list:

Masai Pride
Showbiz Kid
October Grey
Enrique

Notice they are all back markers that suck people in time and again as they invariably seem to be well fancied but rarely if ever win (certainly in recent months)

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/07/2007 10:53 AM
Wasn't that a disgraceful exhibition by Enrique.
 
He gets a black card from me, and joins Nexgen and Malta in that category.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 22/07/2007 12:09 PM
Yep he is woefully out of form and is not attacking the line. When you are a backmarker like he is you'll never win a race.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/07/2007 12:11 PM
Dunno about never, mate.  That's how he races.  A couple of his wins at EF have been stunning performances - to knock me out of a quaddie of course.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 22/07/2007 12:38 PM
To clarify dubbledee - what I meant to say is that a backmarker that doesn't attack the line will never win a race - unless perhaps it is a race full of squibs run at breakneck speed.

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From: Geoff Sent: 22/07/2007 2:14 PM
Do horses "attack" the line?
 
In a distance race do they say to themselves "No not this time, we go the whole way around this great big bloody course before I "attack" the line"?
 
Do pacers count the laps as go around three or four times?
 
They used to say Octagonal and Better Loosen Up knew exactly where the line was, I always thought that that was just a rationale for so many of their victories being by narrow margins.
 
Were Tulloch and Kingston Town as thick as two short planks for winning by big margins? 
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/07/2007 2:16 PM
Yesterday, Enrique would not have attacked anything - let alone the line.  He skied the towel as soon as they straightened.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 22/07/2007 4:17 PM
'Attack the line' is a phrase that Ron Dufficy uses quite often, to illustrate those horses that finish their races off strongly.

For example from yesterday's Rosehill meeting you could say that both Light Red and Lodge The Deeds 'attacked the line'.

On the other hand in Brisbane, Enrique and another horse who had a perfect run in transit in its race, Silver Halo, did not attack the line.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/07/2007 12:49 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Silver Halo
 
Enrique
 
Lion Awake

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 23/07/2007 1:07 PM
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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/07/2007 12:28 PM
Nexgen takes his black card to Doomben today.
 
Guerrouj, Blood 'n' Bone, and Harbour Magic are a few red-card carriers I noticed among today's field.

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Glen Colless finally outsmarted Nexgen yesterday.  After getting a good run behind a fast speed, Colless had to do no more than ease around the leaders after straightening and the race was his.
 
Guerrouj was surprisingly hunted along to lead.  He didn't get a lot of peace in front but held on OK.


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« 2008-Nov-16, 11:14 AM Reply #18 »
 
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From: NineMSN NicknameManikato Sent: 29/07/2007 2:25 PM
Thought Countess Bathorys' run was very weak again. She looks a very light on filly who seems to be shirking the issue when opportunity presents.

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From: wily Sent: 29/07/2007 7:49 PM
The Countess will never win another race.
 
It may also be time to give up on old Foxmore until he meets a below par lot

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From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Instructed
 
Sir Monashee
 
Conquering Spirit

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From: dubbledee Sent: 31/07/2007 3:20 PM
Was disappointed in the run by NESSUNO on Saturday.  The race looked to be run to suit, but he showed nothing over the concluding stages.  Seems that this Eye Liner winner is well past his best. 
 
He gets a red card.

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 31/07/2007 4:33 PM
From: <NOBR>NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro</NOBR> Sent: 16/04/2007 6:51 PM
Nessuno gets dealt the red card this week. He's been a good horse (won 13/50 & $358K) but I reckon if he wins anymore it won't be in the city on a Sat. Still will throw him in the multiples at the provincials.   

dd, Nessuno been a red carder for a few months. I'll update the list shortly! Should the Courier Mail 'Horses To Sack' be included?

 


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From: dubbledee Sent: 31/07/2007 4:39 PM
Oh dear.  So he was.
 
Yeah, I'd include the C-M list.  If we're lucky the list will be so long that I won't have to have a bet soon.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 1/08/2007 1:39 PM
Didn't BOLD REASON win just last Saturday at Doomben?

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 2/08/2007 11:45 AM
RED CARD REGISTAR (haven't won on SAT in the CITY since carded)
ALLADINS LION
ANCIENT IMPULSE
ANCIENT KING
Angel Girl
Amber Lodge
Blood 'N' Bone  (Won IPS 16/6/07 SAT)
Blue Oyster
CAOS CROSS        (Won IPS 1700m 2/11/06 THUR)
Ceffyl
Cent Per Cent
Charvicky
Chasin' Tail
CHEVRON ISLAND
Chut                         (Won Darwin 1200m 31/3/07 SAT)
CIRCUS MAXIMUS
Conquering Spirit
Cotton Fingers
Countess Bathory
CRAIGLEA BOB
Craiglea Warrior
Dawn's Pride
De Beers
Deception Bay
DENMARKET
Doonan
Down To Earth
DREAM GAL
Falaise
Forestreno
Foxmore
Frosty
Galen
Gloucester Road
Grand Lover
GREENFINDER.
GUERROUJ
Gumnuts
HAMAH
HARBOUR MAGIC 
I DO BELIEVE
IMPERIALISM
Instructed
KANETOSHI MILLIONS
LA BELLA MER
LA BELLE VITESSE
Lady's Opinion
Lion Awake
LION SAFARI
Lust For Victory
Masai Pride
Media
MERSEY BEAT 
MINOA
MONO MAC
Mr Doyle 
My Chinese King
My Son Day
Nessuno
October Grey
Paradise Dancer    (Won Monto 1400m 31/3/07 SAT)
Perette
PERSUADES
PICABLU
PRANG
PREND
Primus
Prince Vilhelm
PROUDLY AGRO    (Won SCST 1200m 25/3/07SUN, Won SCST 1300mSUN 8/4/07)
QUALO
RED HOT PISTOL
Red Pill
Rose of Sharon
RUMBIRD
RUM DUM
Sam Samir
SCARED
Serenote
SHE's ALL GREEK
SHILO
Showbiz Kid
Silver Halo
Sir Monashee
Sir Success
SKY MOUNTAIN
Spark Of Life
SUCCEEDING
Teletrader
THE BIG EASY           (Won IPS 1350m 4/4/07 WED)
The Pianist
Time And Dandy
TOULOUSE LAUTREC
Unite & Prosper
Vitesse Dane
VIVE LE ROI  
WILLY LEICA
WOLFMAN
YELL
YOUR LION EYES 
Zoe's Lad
 
BLACK CARDS
Enrique
MALTA (Won EF 1600m 2/12/06 SAT then promptly BLACK CARDED)
MESMERISING
NEXGEN (Won Dbn 28/7/07 SAT) 
 
RED CARDERS WHO HAVE SALUTED ON A SATURDAY
BOLD REASON (Won Dbn 1200m 28/7/07 SAT)
CHARVICKY (Won DBN 1350m 24/3/07 SAT)
TESTIFY(Won EF 1200m 17/3/07 SAT)
SIR BREAKFAST(Won EF 1200m 25/11/06 SAT) 
THE CHANSTER(Won DBN 1020m 30/12/06 SAT)
ENTHUSIAST(Won EF 1200m 14/10/06 SAT)
KING LATARMISS (Won DBN 2100m 28/10/06 SAT)
Pay Me(WonEF1200m9/4/07MON)(WonEF1400m21/4/07SAT)
REVOKED
Picture Book(Won DBN 1110m 3/3/07 SAT) then revoked
POWER CITY(Won GC 1200m 3/207 SAT) then revoked 

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 2/08/2007 11:48 AM
The list is getting quite long. Any other Saturday winners I've missed?

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 2/08/2007 8:07 PM
1 FORESTRENO 1.90 1.00

This won today at Coff's

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From: NineMSN NicknameManikato Sent: 2/08/2007 9:36 PM
Thats one great list El Zoro

Know a bloke who got 66/1 on course big time when Pay Me won in April..... not me unfortunately.

What does the green, red & larger font represent in the redcarders?

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 3/08/2007 12:51 AM
manikato, I have just copied them from the original posts. Most of the colours are just what the original posters put up. Some of the green ones are Courier Mail horses to sack that dd has posted in green.
You're right, list is getting huge, some of them may even be retired now but not sure which ones! 


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« 2008-Nov-16, 11:15 AM Reply #19 »
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 3/08/2007 8:32 AM
El Zoro, thanks again for compiling the list. 
 
It's necessarily a long one, because there's a lot of bandits out there, but can I make a suggestion....
 
You're right in saying some are probably no longer racing at major meetings. Maybe as an act of kindness with the start of the new season we should start from a clean slate?  (Not that turning over the calendar will mean bandits start a new life.)  
 
We can take note of those on the list above, and quickly re-instate the usual suspects as they appear in the new season.  Black card carriers should have a permanent place, IMO.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/08/2007 9:24 PM
After today's racing I think we're justifying in re-instating these to the banned list:
 
MALTA - retains his black card
 
CRAIGLEA WARRIOR
DOONAN
GUERROUJ
MR DOYLE
OCTOBER GREY
 
(all retain red cards)
 
I have some additional candidates, too.  Will add during the week.
 

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 4/08/2007 9:28 PM
Look at the female side of Doonans pedigree and explain to me why he has never been prepared as a stayer ?
 

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From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
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Grand Corso
 
Guerrouj
 
Andrology

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/08/2007 1:57 PM
Another who's worn out his welcome with me is FINE CHEVAL
 
He's run some promising races of late but that's as far as it gets.  He had a good run early on Saturday and although he was checked in the straight, I'm giving him the red card.

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From: NineMSN NicknameLittleMissy512 Sent: 7/08/2007 6:21 PM
You will have so many bloody red cards soon. The form in Brisbane bar Rasmussen has been ordinary. The same 1615m horses and 2200m horses always run against each other and a different horse wins it everytime.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/08/2007 8:18 AM
LittleMissy, you're free to nominate your own choices.  We're looking for horses that are usually well fancied but are poor conveyances.  Like most things in punting, it's a lot easier after the race.
 
Repeat offender, NEXGEN goes around today over 1800 in a very tricky affair.  Let's see whether Jim Byrne can repeat Colless's winning ride last week.

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From: NineMSN NicknameLittleMissy512 Sent: 11/08/2007 10:40 AM
Just saying that you could probably add all the stayers and milers in this spring period to the list, because everyone raves about a horse like High Academy when he won 3 races saying he would measure up in the Winter and was disgraced totally by much higher quality stayers. Another example is Dicktator. Was winning his races, comes 2nd in the Queensland Cup, comes to the Winter and i think his best run was a 7th? And who was that other one last year who was a 3 quarter brother to Might and Power or something and could only win one race?


So after blabbering on about all of that, i choose every miler and stayer we see over the next 3 months in Brisbane.

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From: NineMSN NicknameHangman1050 Sent: 11/08/2007 11:01 AM
L/Missy you are going to ban every winner of every race of a mile and further for the next 3 months?
Hangman.

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From: wily Sent: 11/08/2007 5:07 PM
That mongral saluted.
 
I hate fine cheval

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From: NineMSN NicknameEl_Zoro Sent: 12/08/2007 12:45 AM
Fine Cheval ran 2nd at $22.30 / $5.20 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/08/2007 8:24 AM
Yes, and there were plenty who were pleased he did run 2nd.
 
Having a drink with a big band of joyous Felixtrinidad connections after the race, tI didn't hear one who gave their horse any hope in the photo.  One said "I watched the race past the post and was surprised there was a photo".  Another said, "I was waiting for the number to be changed. Another said "I'm gonna go collect this ticket before someone sees the print".  I said "There is a God".

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/08/2007 1:52 PM
Gee, our red-card carrier Craiglea Warrior made it to Randwick yesterday.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/08/2007 9:04 AM
From Monday's The Courier-Mail:
 
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Burgundy Prince
 
La Sequanna

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From: NineMSN NicknameLittleMissy512 Sent: 15/08/2007 9:11 AM
Being suggestive, Hangman.

My point was that when the good horses come back and race, these horses will have NO chance. If even one had a trickle of ability, they would dominate all races being run at this time. I.E (Yass River, Tour Guide etc)


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« 2008-Nov-16, 11:16 AM Reply #20 »
 
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From: NineMSN NicknameLittleMissy512 Sent: 16/08/2007 11:04 AM
Dubbledee, same race as Craiglea Emma wasn't it? (Craiglea Warrior) Geez she was disappointing. I think even our redcarder beat her.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/08/2007 5:01 PM
Yes, LM.  That was the race.  Have to say I was stunned that Craiglea Warrior was allowed onto the hallowed grounds of Royal Randwick.
 
Black card carrier MALTA won well yesterday, in a race that was run to suit.  Full marks to Powell for his ride, too.
 
MALTA was a critical leg for many of us in yesterday's quaddie.  The black card is now revoked, and he's back on my Christmas Card list.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 16/08/2007 5:15 PM
Gee Malta will be kicking his heels up in joy when I tell him that dd.
He has feelings too you know.

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From: NineMSN NicknameLittleMissy512 Sent: 16/08/2007 5:19 PM
That horse is too hard to catch.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 16/08/2007 5:29 PM
Recently Geoff asked what it meant when a horse is said to 'attack the line'. The horse SILVER HALO going on the evidence of its past few runs (especially yesterday) is an excellent contrary illustration of a horse that attacks the line. I maintain the card on him.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/08/2007 5:46 PM
coins
 
That's a fair call, but an experienced owner (who's won several of Australia's Group 1 races) said to me after the event  "I think young Jones just ran out of puff at the end."

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 16/08/2007 6:44 PM
Maybe so but I reckon that horse turned it up yesterday.

That is consistent with his recent history.

His run 3 starts back sticks in my mind especially. He got the run of the race when well fancied and when let go in the straight did nothing.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/08/2007 6:46 PM
Yep, and the winner had done plenty of work.  God bless his  nevertheless.  Was a good ride from Bowditch too.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 16/08/2007 10:46 PM
Yeah, I'm with you Coinswell, didn't have an interest in the race but also thought Silver Halo turned it up yesterday. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/08/2007 9:35 PM
Surprising to see DOONAN backed to beat Majorca yesterday. 
 
He was on last year's red card list and I suggest we reinstate him.
 
A few on the watch list: Black Suit, Single Rose, Street Smart, Stylish Qualo, Orrong

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 20/08/2007 10:17 AM
I'd throw in WARRIOR TRADER as well. He rarely wins these days but often does just enough to convince that he should be backed.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/09/2007 12:15 PM
Our good mate MALTA was ridden to perfection in front on Saturday, and held off all challenges.
 
Yesterday at GC, it took a masterly ride to get perennial thief WILLY LEICA home in an 1800 m event.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/10/2007 9:23 PM
MESMERISING has cost punters dearly over the last year or so when racing in Brisbane.  She raced consistently - but consistently got beaten.
 
Tomorrow she resumes wearing the same Laming colours at Caulfield.  Let's see if the change in water has helped her to the winner's stall.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 19/10/2007 10:53 PM
An even bunch with no stars, though the Freedman horse is pretty handy especially first up. So she will probably start unders.

At $15 Mesmerising could be worth a place ticket though her recent trials were considered to be lukewarm at best.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/12/2007 3:08 PM
We'll no doubt be needing this in coming weeks.
 
As a gesture of post-EI goodwill, I think it's fair to revoke all previously-issued RED and BLACK cards.


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« 2008-Nov-16, 11:17 AM Reply #21 »
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/12/2007 8:36 PM
It's a bit premature to be handing out red cards, but I'm definitely putting a "watch" on ENRIQUE.

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From: wily Sent: 10/12/2007 6:17 AM
 I heard the trainer before the race and he said that Entique can't go an inch on a wt track.
he was sending around because he needed a run.
He did say he was flying and would win on a dry track

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/12/2007 11:15 AM
Yes, wily, that's acknowledged.  But he raced on a GOOD track on Saturday.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/12/2007 12:14 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Earnshaw
 
Shew Stone
 
Brom's Girl

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From: wily Sent: 10/12/2007 3:53 PM
Good track?
 
I put my bets on in the morning and I'm sure it was slow and they had 36 mm or something of the like

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 10/12/2007 4:02 PM
dubbledee is right wily.

I know it is not necessarily the most reliable of sources and dubbledee may not like me citing it to support what he said but today's article on justracing.com.au sets out how the track was on Saturday.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 10/12/2007 4:08 PM
Earnshaw, should be forgiven he was backed up to quickly in my opinion from a first up run.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamefatprawn Sent: 10/12/2007 5:00 PM
wily...
 
         If you care to have a look at the overall times and sectionals in the"Sunday Mail" you will see how the track had dried."Good" would be the correct assessment.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/12/2007 5:29 PM
The official track rating for Race 7 was GOOD.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/12/2007 12:18 PM
It might be a tad early to hand out a red card, but I saw a worthy recipient yesterday - MOSSO.
 
Sure he was 2nd-up, and not at his best distance, but he was fancied in the betting and did NOUGHT.  It's had to imagine it was the same steed who came rocketing down the outside at Doomben in the last one day to knock us out of a good quaddie.
 
He's on the banned list as of yesterday.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/12/2007 2:34 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail.
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Master Denis
 
Thesis
 
All runners in Race 1 bar Choose A Star.  Oh dear.  That includes Hyde Park.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 24/12/2007 4:56 PM
He's a tough marker....Fancy banning so many after just 1 start.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 24/12/2007 6:25 PM
I think post EI it's going to take some months, at least, for the form to settle down in Qld and NSW.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 24/12/2007 6:36 PM
Caught any waves todays triples?

Your right about the delay in form of now and true form.
Had this discussion with someone yesterday who reckoned it won't have any effect.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 24/12/2007 8:41 PM
Found plenty of fresh seafood mate, but haven't caught much of it myself yet lol.
 
I think there certainly has to be some form effect, guess only time will tell but I've had little betting interest in either state to date and missed little.


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From: MagiC** Sent: 26/12/2007 7:56 AM
I think he is a bit harsh on Master Denis ... he was second up , and on top of that he was backing up just one week later.
 
I was very suprised to see Alan Bailey backing him up so quickly after his first run, but i guess it could have been because of bad progamming due to EI and very limited  open company races.
 
Was still strange though

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From: dubbledee Sent: 27/12/2007 9:03 AM
MagiC
 
I think Master D's background form was taken into account in showing him the door.  His CV isn't too impressive on the score of consistency.

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From: wily Sent: 30/12/2007 8:24 AM
I'm sure I made Angel Girl a red carder on here some time back.
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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/12/2007 7:46 PM
This week's red card goes to Mr Doyle.
 
I doubt there's a punter who hasn't sacked this fellow at some time during the past year or so.  But he's been let back in the fold post-EI, after a reasonable run first-up.
 
I realise he had gear problems yesterday, but it's time he was shown the door.

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HORSES TO SACK
 
Sam's Express
 
Mr Doyle
 
Babinda Half

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From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
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King Leonidas
 
Cardio
 
Cognisant

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/01/2008 8:27 AM
The enigmatic Prince Leo resumes tomorrow at EF.
 
I seem to recall him getting honourable mention on this thread.

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From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
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Instructed
 
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qwerty has a candidate for a red card:
 
From: <NOBR>NineMSN Nicknameqwertyu1234567</NOBR> Sent: 10/02/2008 12:57 PM
Where's your sinbin thread DD,
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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/02/2008 8:15 PM
I think it's time to deal with Prince Leo.  He's been on the watch list for a while, but his run yesterday was disgraceful, IMO.  Maybe he didn't go on the soft, or maybe he has a problem, but he's surely worn out his welcome by now.
 
He's given the red card.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 10/02/2008 8:19 PM
A red card to Queensland racing in general.

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I thrive on it.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 10/02/2008 8:39 PM
Prince Leo offto Birdsville

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Prince Leo and King Leonidas.

Some similarities in their names, and their natures it seems.

Mind you KL's last run was not too bad but he has worn out his welcome well and truly.

Another horse that evokes such feelings is Masai Pride...and yet...his run yesterday was okay too until he ran out of puff.


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From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
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Prince Leo
 
Everyone's against the poor Prince.

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Our old mate Nexgen is set to resume at EF on Saturday.

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I thought we'd seen the last of Craiglea Warrior a couple of years back.  Just when ya think it's safe he bobs up again.

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Obviously Craiglea Warrior reads this forum. 
 
He finally did something of note at Eagle Farm.  No doubt he was advantaged by that terrible bias on the rails.

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From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Ready When You Are
 
Daedalus

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Feelin Dandy
 
Romantic Journey

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Ima Joker
 
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From: dubbledee Sent: 31/03/2008 9:32 PM
I wouldn't be so hard on Russeting.  I thought she had the job ahead of her from the rails on Saturday with the 57kg.  Goltz decided to make use of her draw and she was under pressure a fair way out.  She stuck to her guns in the straight.
 
A Commands filly, she's won 3 races this campaign and 5 from 9 overall.  I doubt she'd mix it with the best over the Carnival but I reckon she'll pay her way next prep.

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I haven't looked at the replays yet but....

Very harsh on Russeting I reckon. She's had a good prep and was up 4 kilos on her latest effort. How could you sack her on that effort. Some are saying what a great effort from Facundo first up but there wasn't much 'tween 'em on the line. Surely Kenshe must win soon!

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From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Laletta
 
Tour Guide

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/04/2008 1:33 PM
I agree Laletta has to put on at least a yellow card.  She's let down punters twice in Brisbane, now.  But I reckon she's a lot better than we've seen so far - and she'd wanna be.
 
Dunno about Tour Guide.  He was above himself in condition at GC, and had a pretty quick back-up to Saturday.  Definitely on the watch list.
 
I was disappointed in Wakil's run.  Plenty of money came for him, but he failed to flatter in the straight.  One more run for him, too.
 
Miiller's Wheel will always be short, and his style of racing makes it difficult for him to win.  He'll need things to go right to win over coming months.

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Xaardante
 
Starlactic

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/04/2008 3:39 PM
No Brisbane "sackings" in today's C-M.
 
If ever I'm heard mentioning Prince Leo again, please send around the keepers.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/04/2008 1:23 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Mitanni
 
The Beast
 
Miss Shalaquing


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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 28/04/2008 3:33 PM
I think he has probably been red carded but if there were any lingering doubts about Enrique surely they were removed with his effort at Toowoomba on Saturday. Pat O'Shea had it right when he said Enrique had turned it up.

Give him a saucer of milk....

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/04/2008 1:31 PM
I think it's fair to say that Enrique would have saluted on Sat night if it wasn't for the fact that the winner had the most charmed run imaginable.  But that's IF....
 
I didn't think I'd ever say it, but it looks as if Masai Pride is now deserving of the red card.  He appeared to have every chance on Saturday at EF, but didn't finish off the way he used to.  Bryan Guy has tried everything with this fellow, and the wins are just too far apart.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 29/04/2008 2:26 PM
You are a very charitable man dubbledee...

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/05/2008 10:22 AM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Elegant Roi
 
Youthful Jack

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From: MagiC** Sent: 5/05/2008 4:06 PM
From: dubbledee Sent: 29/04/2008 12:31 PM
I think it's fair to say that Enrique would have saluted on Sat night if it wasn't for the fact that the winner had the most charmed run imaginable.  But that's IF....

I don't think he would have if the leader had of been left alone in front DD, from the stewards report.

Stewards questioned both Trainer R Hawkswell (BUMPERGEE) and Apprentice C Dixon as to the running and handling of that gelding. Mr Hawkswell stated that he had instructed C Dixon to attempt to ride the gelding forward and to take a sit if another runner wanted to lead. Apprentice Dixon stated that he felt the gelding was off the bit at all stages of the event and he was required to place pressure on the horse to hold its position outside the lead. Whilst no action was taken, Stewards advised Apprentice C Dixon that they were of the opinion that he had erred in his judgement between the 1400m and the 1100m in that Stewards believe he had an opportunity to take a sit and have cover at that stage of the event rather than continue to press forward and engage in a speed battle with a known leader in BOTERO (G Auckram).

I Know the connections of Botero went up the hill very confident of knocking Enrique off, but was attacked from the getgo and again at the 800, think it is quite amazing young Manabu Kai can be given time for running and handling on Dougs Mate yet this guy was only given a warning.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/05/2008 8:32 PM
MagiC
 
Regardless of all that, my point was that the reason Enrique didn't win was that the eventual winner got a charmed run behind the speed.  As to what would have happened had Botero not been attacked we can but speculate.
 
Enrique fans can back up on Saturday in Race 1.
 
Will red card carrier Masai Pride earn a reprieve by winning the second on Saturday?  He's got a nice draw and Pengelly steering.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 8/05/2008 8:46 PM
As I recall it Enrique ran up to the other horse, hit the lead and didn't win - he had his chance IMHO regardless of the other horse.

In any event if he was any good he should have disposed of that field easily.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/05/2008 8:49 PM
I certainly wouldn't back him in a Stradbroke.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/05/2008 11:19 AM
Red-card carrier Masai Pride must read this thread.  On Saturday, resplendent in blinkers, he was back to his old tricks of missing away.  But Pengelly found inside runs to be in the firing line at the 300 but needed miracles to get through.  They occurred, and MP raced away like we know he can.  A masterly ride by Pengelly, and a mighty effort by the horse.  Let's hope he's back in the form that got us excited a couple of seasons ago.
 
Youthful Jack was shown the door by C-M, and almost brought off an immediate reprieve when 2nd to Acorns.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/05/2008 11:42 AM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Stolit
 
Personally, I think that's a touch hard on Stolit.  His alley and weight combined to bring about his defeat on Saturday.  He'll find it hard against the top-liners, but he's a very smart, honest 4yo, IMO.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/05/2008 1:32 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Reigning to Win
 
Pepperwood
 
Choose a Star

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From: dubbledee Sent: 2/06/2008 1:32 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
HORSES TO SACK
 
Heart of the Citi

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 2/06/2008 2:15 PM
How could he overlook  CAMARILLA  it's lost a leg

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From: dubbledee Sent: 2/06/2008 2:16 PM
Yes, it was a disgraceful performance.

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From: NineMSN NicknameAntitab Sent: 2/06/2008 2:24 PM
Its. madness, ever sacking a horse that failed on a heavy track, particularly one like Heart of the Citi who has been up a long time.
 
Give that horse a break  and a hard track and you will have a different performance.



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