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Offline mortdale

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O.P. « 2017-Mar-15, 12:00 PM »
We all listened to all the hype about the multi million dollar upgrade to the "new" Eagle Farm track that opened close to 12 months ago.

Statements like, "the Eagle Farm track will be the best racing surface in Australia within 6 months".

I'm not going to get to deep into my viewpoints on why they did not look at revising some of the starting points when they had the chance but the 1000mt, 1100mt and 1800mt starts are still a joke.

The result after close on 12 months is nothing short of a disgrace. The track just can't race without a major bias and trainers and jockeys are basically gagged in regards to making public comments.

For a degree of fairness, can all the blame be laid at the feet of the course curator?

Did the course curator and his team have the final say on the design, layout, drainage and the final choice of grass that was used?

So who is to blame for what is now showing as a great waste of millions of dollars from the a very cash ridden RQ?

I'm really sorry to say that the Queensland Racing Industry is going to continue on a downhill spiral. Even if there is a cash injection from the proposed Tatts merger. Giving additional funds to those currently in charge can be best explained by a saying from Albert Einstein.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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« 2017-Mar-16, 12:09 AM Reply #1 »
For a degree of fairness, can all the blame be laid at the feet of the course curator?

Did the course curator and his team have the final say on the design, layout, drainage and the final choice of grass that was used?


I need to confirm that the course curator and his staff have had their hands tied in the majority of the decisions regarding the new Eagle Farm track.

Let's just hope when they are finally given the full responsibility to manage the track that it will improve greatly.

I hope their full authority is handed to them sooner than later.

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« 2017-Mar-16, 08:28 AM Reply #2 »
THE Brisbane Racing Club on Wednesday convened a meeting with key stakeholders, including track developers Evergreen, in a bid to find out why Eagle Farm’s new surface continues to underperform.

“The way the track raced on Monday was clearly not acceptable,” BRC chairman Neville Bell said. “In November and December the track seemed to be going very well but in February and March it has gone the other way.

“We thought the only way forward was to have a meeting with all the experts.

“It’s fair to say it’s not one single thing. It’s a lot to do with the immaturity of the turf, the extreme weather conditions and the amount of racing we are doing on it.

“Flemington gets two months off after Stakes day. Caulfield gets two months after the Caulfield Cup. Our racing model up here doesn’t allow that sort of break.’’

Bell said Wednesday’s meeting convinced him and the board the track could live up to expectations in the future, but “there’s no quick fix to this’’.

“The experts say the way it was planted, it’s going to be two years before it’s a mature plant,” he said. “We just have to try and balance producing a good racing surface with growing the grass to maturity.’’

Crikey...no quick fix. :o

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« 2017-Mar-16, 11:51 AM Reply #3 »
I don't bet much at the Gold Coast ..... but if the way the track plays deteriorates because of regular racing and the weather in SE Qld it must be the worst in Australia.


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« 2017-Mar-16, 12:17 PM Reply #4 »
I don't bet much at the Gold Coast ..... but if the way the track plays deteriorates because of regular racing and the weather in SE Qld it must be the worst in Australia.

Hi Wenona, the Gold Coast has to be applauded with as many as 54 meetings a year and it holds up very well in all conditions. Sure could there be more camber on the home turn the answer is yes.

The track that we are all talking about is the multi million dollar disaster at Eagle Farm.

And by the way don't blame the track curator and his staff as they are under the control of the contractor that won the tender to design and upgrade the new track.

From Arsenal's blog above he can only report what was said by BRC Chairman Neville Bell. However the executive team at the BRC are to scared to admit the facts that have seen the track upgrade turn into a fiasco.

Sooner the better that they come clean and allow their course curator to take full control and get rid of the mob that stuffed up the project in the first place.

There is a lot more behind this than meets the eye but will it come out....................I very much doubt so. Roles at the BRC are very well protected.

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« 2017-Mar-16, 03:59 PM Reply #5 »
The only light I can see for Eagle Farm is what happened at Toowoomba. (I know it was a different contractor).

As I recall when the new track was laid there, they had major problems fro some time and copped
a heap of criticism but app appears resolved and the track looks good.

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« 2017-Mar-16, 06:29 PM Reply #6 »
I haven't had many bets there. What's the bias ?

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« 2017-Mar-16, 07:22 PM Reply #7 »
I haven't had many bets there. What's the bias ?

A Good 4 rated track racing like a ploughed paddock Heavy 9, that's the bias.

One week the rail is like quick sand the next week you can't make ground out wide, it's just a joke and a disgrace to QLD racing.

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« 2017-Apr-28, 06:50 PM Reply #8 »
THE UNSINKABLE RQ TITANIC SAILS INTO THE EAGLE FARM ICEBERGS 

BRISBANE Racing Club CEO and his Racing Queensland counterpart Eliot Forbes are so far out of touch with reality when it comes to the Eagle Farm track debacle that it is embarrassing.

The good ship RQ Titanic continues to sail into the Eagle Farm icebergs refusing to listen to warnings from top trainers and jockeys that the track should be closed down, repaired or ripped up rather than raced on during the carnival.

Forbes says RQ is constantly in touch and monitoring the Eagle Farm situation with the BRC. He insists the fallout from the latest trackwork disaster will not have a detrimental effect on horses coming from the carnival.

Perhaps he should talk to a key official of the BRC who hosted a visit from a leading Sydney trainer during the week. He took one look at the Eagle Farm track then contacted his stable to declare that their horses would be headed for Adelaide instead of Brisbane for the carnival.

Whether the Eagle Farm track survives Saturday’s meeting and shows some improvement on the state it was in for trackwork on Tuesday this is only a ‘band-aid’ cure. Too many shortcuts were taken in the development process. Behind the scenes the problems involving sub-contractors in an absolute financial disaster.

But RQ and the BRC plough ahead – ignoring industry concerns and refusing to show any respect for the hundreds of thousands of punters who want to bet on Brisbane racing but now are reluctant to do so because they don’t know how the track will play not to mention that it is impossible to do the form.

BRC chief executive Dave Whimpey is living in dreamland with his declaration that Eagle Farm in time will be a world-class surface. That will take a minor miracle unless they rip the joint up and start again like the costly exercise that occurred in Toowoomba.

An indication of how serious the situation has reached can be gauged by what is being written in the mainstream racing media as evidenced by the comments of The Courier-Mail Racing Editor Nathan Exelby when he wrote:

Whimpey’s willingness to be the public face of the Eagle Farm debacle has been admirable and his openness in declaring where mistakes have been made and how the club is trying to fix them is refreshing.

But to describe Gollan and Munce’s comments as “embarrassing” is to vastly underestimate the toll that the long-running Eagle Farm saga has taken on them and their colleagues. It’s a mistake to think Gollan, Munce and Kelso Wood’s comments are out of step with their fellow trainers. Likewise, most jockeys hold a similar view and are sceptical of whether the track will ever live up to expectations. Add punters to that list as well.

What Exelby is warning is what the majority of the industry and stakeholders – not only in Queensland but the rest of Australia are thinking – how many more clowns do you need to make a circus.

It’s time for the Government to step in and insist that something is done, rather than sidestep the problems in the hope the track will come good. But we are talking about one of the most useless Racing Ministers seen in Grace Grace – and like the BRC and RQ she is just another feature performer in the three-ring circus that is Racing in Queensland.

 From www.letsgohorseracing.com

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« 2017-May-03, 09:12 PM Reply #9 »
Wednesday 3rd May 2017.

Basically no rain in Brisbane for 10 days.

Eagle Farm rated a Heavy 8............................................HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?

I have just heard that the BRC are applying to extend the "Heavy" rating system to a maximum of a Heavy 20 rating.

This will help if Brisbane actually gets any rain during the Winter Carnival the BRC will be able to post Eagle Farm as a Heavy 17.

I ask one question. If anyone on this forum was handed close on $50 million dollars to refurbish Eagle Farm into the top racetrack in Australia and close on 2 years after the track reopened it turns out to be nothing more than a rice paddy, would any of us have a job?

This project is one the greatest example of mismanagement you could ever witness.

The BRC and the Racing Minister should be called to answer why this has happened and justify their future employment.

I was going to say what a joke but a joke is normally something you get a good laugh out of.

This is certainly no laughing matter...............................IT'S A DISGRACE.

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« 2017-May-03, 09:42 PM Reply #10 »
Surely the members must demand that Neville Bell and his Committee resign forthwith.

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« 2017-May-03, 09:46 PM Reply #11 »


I ask one question. If anyone on this forum was handed close on $50 million dollars to refurbish Eagle Farm into the top racetrack in Australia and close on 2 years after the track reopened it turns out to be nothing more than a rice paddy, would any of us have a job?



That's a rhetorical question isn't it? :shy:   :lol:

The warning light was flashing from the moment it opened.

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« 2017-May-04, 09:09 AM Reply #12 »
When old horses get tired and disinterested to the stage they dont bother any more they get retired. Old stewards who get tired and disinterested and can't bother to count whip strokes even when they are double the allowed number they get their lucrative contact extended. And we wonder why Queensland Racing is and will always be the laughing stock of Australian racing. For the sake of saving a very minute amount of face please get a chief steward that can see obvious  and blatant abuses of the rules and act accordingly. Perhaps poor old al might get a free visit to specsavers as part of his extended contract.

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« 2017-May-04, 10:12 AM Reply #13 »
Yes,  but I have seen him at the Magic Millions Sales and he seems to have a rollicking time with the licencees.

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« 2017-May-27, 08:56 AM Reply #14 »
No rain in the 7 days prior to todays feature meeting and its a heavy 9.....this track is DOOMED

Better call QRIC on their flying pigs to get to the bottom of this.....just don't expect a response just a press release from the COMMISH

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« 2017-May-27, 02:37 PM Reply #15 »
It's looking very ugly  :shutup:

Basically indefensible what has been served up.

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« 2017-May-27, 03:22 PM Reply #16 »
That must be nearly close to being unsafe on the home turn

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« 2017-May-27, 03:26 PM Reply #17 »
Looks like it hasn't consolidated and the drainage not working properly, kickback is bad. You'd have to think the Oaks meeting would be transferred elsewhere to allow for repair work if they're any chance of holding the Straddy meet there.

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« 2017-May-27, 04:07 PM Reply #18 »
Nothing they can do now will fix anything before the Straddy.

So they either race as it is or move it to Doomben.  :shutup:

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« 2017-May-27, 04:52 PM Reply #19 »
Radley just said on Sky that the officials have said they will not be changing venues for the rest of the carnival.

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« 2017-May-27, 05:01 PM Reply #20 »
Pig headed?

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« 2017-May-27, 05:46 PM Reply #21 »
I don't know what happens if they get any rain on top of the mess they have now.

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« 2017-May-27, 05:47 PM Reply #22 »
Yeah I guess they just put the rail out as far as they can for the Oaks meeting and hope for no rain  :sweat:

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« 2017-May-27, 05:50 PM Reply #23 »
It comes down to whether it's safe, which it looked to be.

The fact it raced like a bottomless 10 with the fields coming in strung out like Brown's cows is what's not acceptable.


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« 2017-May-27, 05:56 PM Reply #24 »
 Andrew Bensley‏ @AndrewBensley 7m7 minutes ago

Eagle Farm had more people at track today than the last two meetings at Doomben combined. No thought @BrisRacingClub to transfer meeting


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