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« 2017-May-27, 10:25 PM Reply #25 »
I'm concerned by the reports that horses were swallowing a lot of kickback and coming back in with black eyes and other injuries.

Anecdotal at the moment from a few trainers, but very serious if it's true.

It's one thing for participants and punters to have to put up with an unacceptable track.

But it's another thing entirely if it's hurting the horses.

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« 2017-May-27, 10:59 PM Reply #26 »
You only had to see the close up shots from the van after they jumped from the gates JRB to know there was huge clods just shearing out of the track and flying back.

Have you even seen a meeting where so many runners were beaten over 20L or worse tailed off getting beat furlongs?

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« 2017-May-27, 11:53 PM Reply #27 »
Not one where the track's had no watering, natural or manual, for at least the week preceding it.

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« 2017-May-28, 12:14 AM Reply #28 »
Reported too that the outside 3 - 5 metres of the track in the straight were doctored so as to make sure they didn't provide a fast lane.

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« 2017-May-28, 11:47 AM Reply #29 »
What an absolute joke Queensland Racing has become. Talented horses being beaten by up to 80 lengths in races there yesterday.
In the old days they would appear in the form guide as distanced. This was supposedly one of their premier meetings on supposedly their premier track. Why doesn't the government simply close the place down and see if they can find some people to run the show who have some idea what they are doing. It is manifestly obvious that the current committee hasn't a clue. Public monies have been used to pay for that disgrace of a racetrack. Can anyone believe that it was posted as a heavy 8 and hadn't rained for ten days. On a glorious Brisbane Saturday we got a track which would be a disgrace in the depths of a Hobart winter. The oafs who run the show will say how they got a good crowd along. Yes it is not hard to get the rent a crowd mob out there , but they are not racing people. They contribute sfa to Racing and Racing turnover. I haven't seen when the AGM of the Club is yet but surely the members must act to get rid of these useless individuals who sit on this committee. Perhaps they need not get the opportunity. Queensland Racing has got rid of incompetent management committees before . The time to do so to this mob is now.

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« 2017-May-28, 04:38 PM Reply #30 »
Oaks day moved to Doomben.

Presumably means a 2200m Oaks?

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« 2017-May-28, 04:41 PM Reply #31 »
Hold the phone.

New track not yet announced.

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« 2017-May-28, 05:46 PM Reply #32 »

Queensland Oaks meeting to be transferred


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28 May 2017

Racing Queensland has decided to transfer next Saturdayüfs Brisbane Racing Club Queensland Oaks meeting.

 

The decision, in light of the track performance at Eagle Farm yesterday, was made in order to present the best possible surface for Group 1 racing.

 

RQ has consulted widely with industry associations and gained feedback from a wide selection of members including the nationüfs leading participants.

 

Consensus amongst the feedback was, that while the track was safe for racing, it is an inferior racing surface.

 

ügRacing Queensland is committed to providing the outcomes that are in the best interests of the industry as a whole and that includes a racing surface befitting the quality of the horses and races being contested,üh Racing Queensland chief executive officer Dr Eliot Forbes said.

 

RQ will examine all avenues for the best placement of the race meeting, with an announcement to industry participants later today.

 

RQ will work closely with the BRC over the coming days to determine the best course of action for the remainder of the Brisbane Racing Carnival meetings.


Caloundra was soft today and they wouldn't get a crowd Doomben is the only option. :whistle:

Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2017-May-28, 06:41 PM Reply #33 »
Why don't they just run the Oaks, Derby and Stradbroke at a venue where they can race over their traditional journeys. Randwick would seem ideal.

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« 2017-May-28, 06:48 PM Reply #34 »
North Queensland . .??

Some smart(?) people reckon we can do a Comm-Games  :beer:

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« 2017-May-28, 10:20 PM Reply #35 »
As a member of the BRC tonight I have received an email from Mr Bell (Chairman of the BRC) arguing his opposition to Racing Queensland's proposed moving of Saturday's Oaks meeting away from Eagle Farm. Apparently Mr Bell has sought a meeting with the
Racing Minister tomorrow morning to argue his case that the meeting should not be moved. Of course it should be moved. The track is an absolute disgrace. While Mr Bell has the Ministers full attention she should immediately sack him and the other members of his committee and install others in their positions so that Queensland Racing doesn't continue to be the laughing stock of this Industry. Their time to remove their backsides from the shiny seats of the boardroom has arrived.


 

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« 2017-May-28, 10:50 PM Reply #36 »
As a member of the BRC tonight I have received an email from Mr Bell (Chairman of the BRC) arguing his opposition to Racing Queensland's proposed moving of Saturday's Oaks meeting away from Eagle Farm. Apparently Mr Bell has sought a meeting with the
Racing Minister tomorrow morning to argue his case that the meeting should not be moved. Of course it should be moved. The track is an absolute disgrace. While Mr Bell has the Ministers full attention she should immediately sack him and the other members of his committee and install others in their positions so that Queensland Racing doesn't continue to be the laughing stock of this Industry. Their time to remove their backsides from the shiny seats of the boardroom has arrived.

And if the ALP, former union boss racing minister sacked the committee and appointed new committee members, who do you suppose she would appoint  :chin:

The very last thing Queensland Racing needs at this point in time is yet more politicization of the racing industry. It is the root cause of a lot of the problems. Not this particular one I should add (failure of the new surface).

As for this problem, happy to admit I was one of the ones saying "give it time". After all, we are talking about growing grass in Brisbane FFS.

The fact that the track was as heavy as it was on Saturday after an extended period of no rain to me means that we have passed the period of "give it time" and need to start determining what happened.

Watch out for people wanting "political get squares" over what was effectively an operational failure. The strategic decision to give the track an upgrade was the correct one IMO. But those responsible for the strategic decisions would have referred the specialized work to the (so called) experts.

Before sackings (heaven forbid these are not needed at this time), the next step is to determine what has happened and publish that information without fear or favour. Needs an independent assessment - probably contract someone from NSW or Victoria who is not attached to any particular political position to make a comprehensive scientific report that can be used to determine the next course of action.

In spite of all the doom and gloom the show must go on. We should be forward looking, not backwards.

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« 2017-May-29, 07:34 AM Reply #37 »
  How bad or unfair was the Eagle Farm Track for  27 th May 2017.  One Point Of View Races 3, 4  and  8 shown.
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FILE EF348T2X8LINE.TXT,
VF150417 EF32705F * RACE NAME ID* [ EF32705F  2017. BRC SIRES' PRODUCE STAKES  GROUP 2 HEAVY ( 8 ),,,,, 1400 mtrs]. COMPRUN 05-27-2017. AT 14:50:26 RESULT  [    14  3  13  5   ~    7  4    ] F4 $6321

VF150417 EF32705F * LOW LRAC WDIV [  9  7 3  14  11  ] [  9 QIJI PHOEN  .  ]. [ 7 CAPITAL GA  .  ]. [ 3 TAKING AIM  .  ]. [ 14 MELODY BEL  .  ]. [ 11 MALAHAT W%  .  ]. [ ] F4 & 5LOW WDIV E/W BET *.  60%

VF150417 EF32705F * HIGHEST EARNER[  14  MELODY BELLE W% 60 80 WITH $ 669774 IS A  2Yo. DS= 56 DDIST= 0 WTC= .5Kg.  IF UNSUITABLE CAN STILL !PLACE! OVER 1400check L/R Finish.

VF150417 EF32705F * WMSPD ORD TNO [     3     17      6     15      2     11     18      1      8      5      9     10     14     16     12      4      7     13     ]  * ] BMVRS/W [  ]*SPL*
VF150417 EF32705F * WMSPD RTG ORD [  999   978   966   956   924   915   914   912   876   873   863   858   856   852   834   826   818   779   ] IMPORTANT
VF150417 EF32705F * RQOD WMSPD RO [  6.4   7   8.1   9.4   15.3   18.3   18.6   19.3   44.4   49.2   61.8   69.5   73.2   81.9   127.4   144.9   168   ] IN WMSPD ORDER. $PRICE/1 CALCULATED RQD ODDS ON WT

VF150417 EF32705F * GW$CLASS$ ORD [   14    3    2    17    18    1    10    8    12    15    7    11    13    5    16    6    9   ].  14 MELODY 56d  0m  .5k  .  2y]  [ 7 CAPITA 13d  0m -1.5k  .  2y]  [ 12 NOBLE  14d  200m  0k  2y]  [ 10 PAH TE 14d  200m  0k  2y.

VF150417 EF32705F * TOP 2X8 LINES [  14  3 17  9  5  1 * ESP @ 1400m. ].    RESULT  [  14  3  13  5   ]

VF150417 EF32705F * KEY SPEED NOS [   3  +!. +GW!. +TJ!.  =*NK*.  6  +TJ!.  15   17  +GW!.  .]>1.  1  +TJ!.  5   8  ] +! = LRWD]. *HiWM>GW$C [ < 14+GW!. +!. <. < 7+!. < ]. *N1/2W<<SP= 14  3  << 13  4  <<=BDUPL. *BP%P*= 9<: ]. <<] S/WDual IS [ 3 ] * ]CKCNT. *

VF150417 EF32705F * VALU% SELECT [  [  2 OURS TO KE 2yo  129% $35 Ds= 14 ]. [  3 TAKING AIM 2yo  33% $8.5 Ds= 21 ]. [  6 EMINENT W% 2yo  900% $81 Ds= 21 ]. [  8 MISHANI BU 2yo  15% $51 Ds= 13 ]. [  10 PAH TERIE  2yo -4% $67 Ds= 14 ]. [  15 CHAMP ELEC 2yo  443% $51 Ds= 21 ]. [  16 MARSEILLE  2yo  54% $126 Ds= 13 ]. [  17 RUBY RED H 2yo  857% $67 Ds= 21 ]. [  18 SHOWASHADO 2yo  577% $126 Ds= 14 ].  END ] @ 14:57:13 05-27-2017

VF150417 EF32705F * TOP5 RNK MVRS [  14 MELODY BEL C=28 2yo  ]  13 PIERATA W% C=20 2yo  ]  1 TANGLED W% C=17 2yo  ]  9 QIJI PHOEN C=14 2yo  ]  5 SAINT PATR C=12 2yo  ]  * T5TTLMVS[  14 13 1 9 5 A S/A F4$. CHK $T/J]*  SPCL MOVE TOTS FOR F4'S AT LEAST RESIDS. ** [  1  9  14  ] **  MUST CONSIDER IN NSW N VIC TAB FIRST FOURS

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VF150417 EF42705F * RACE NAME ID* [ EF42705F  2017. PREMIER'S CUP GROUP 3 HEAVY ( 8 ) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 2200 mtrs]. COMPRUN 05-27-2017. AT 14:19:02 RESULT  [   14  13  8  1    ~    6   7    ] F4 $25k.

VF150417 EF42705F * LOW LRAC WDIV [  1  2  8  9  7  ] [  1 BENZINI W%  .  ]. [ 2 JUMBO PRIN  .  ]. [ 8 THE CHAIRM  .  ]. [ 9 CHOCANTE W  .  ]. [ 7 PEMBERLEY   .  ]. [ ] F4 & 5LOW WDIV E/W BET *. 40%

VF150417 EF42705F * WMSPD ORD TNO [     6     14      2      1     10      9      5      4      7      8     12     11     13     15     ]  * ] BMVRS/W [  6 NEVERLAND W%  5yo <. Dtl= 14 ] 14 KAISER FRANZ  6yo <. Dtl= 14 ] ]*SPL*
VF150417 EF42705F * WMSPD RTG ORD [  937   925   920   917   915   910   909   898   898   896   889   836   830   760   ] IMPORTANT
VF150417 EF42705F * RQOD WMSPD RO [  10.3   10.6   11.3   11.8   12.1   12.9   13.1   16.3   16.3   16.9   19.2   74.5   89.1   ] IN WMSPD ORDER. $PRICE/1 CALCULATED RQD ODDS ON WT MODIFIED SPEED RATINGS *

VF150417 EF42705F * TOP 2X8 LINES [  2  1  6  14  7  9 10  8 ]. CHK TOP8      RESULT  [  14  13  8  1   ]

VF150417 EF42705F * KEY SPEED NOS [   2  +!. +GW!. +TJ!.  1  +!.  =*NK*.  8  +!. +TJ!.  9 * +!.  .]>1.  7  +!.  10  +GW!. +TJ!.  14  +TJ!. ] +! = LRWD]. *HiWM>GW$C [ < 11+TJ!.  4y $21<. < 4+TJ!. +GW!. +!.  $30< ]. *N1/2W<<SP= 6  10  << 8  15  <<=BDUPL. *BP%P*= 9<: ]. <<] S/WDual IS [ 1 ] * ]CKCNT. *

VF150417 EF42705F * VALU% SELECT [ [  1 BENZINI W% 7yo  4% $12.3 Ds= 35 ]. [  4 AUVRAY W%  6yo  85% $30.1 Ds= 7 ]. [  5 MISTER IMP 7yo  9% $14.3 Ds= 35 ]. [  10 FELTRE W%  6yo  91% $23.1 Ds= 14 ]. [  12 MY DIAMANT 6yo  130% $44.1 Ds= 14 ]. [  14 KAISER FRA 6yo  573% $71.3 Ds= 14 ].  END ] @ 14:27:32 05-27-2017

VF150417 EF42705F * TOP5 RNK MVRS [  8 THE CHAIRM C=25 5yo  ]  15 METEOROLOG C=18 6yo  ]  7 PEMBERLEY  C=15 5yo  ]  13 ZAMBEZI WA C=15 4yo  ]  11 MORENDI W% C=9 4yo  ]  * T5TTLMVS[  8 15 7 13 11 A S/A F4$. CHK $T/J]*  SPCL MOVE TOTS FOR F4'S AT LEAST RESIDS. ** [  7  8  8  11  ] **  MUST CONSIDER IN NSW N VIC TAB FIRST FOURS

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VF150417 EF82705F * RACE NAME ID* [ EF82705F  2017. FRED BEST CLASSIC TRACK GROUP 3 HEAVY ( 8 ) ,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1400 mtrs]. COMPRUN 05-27-2017. AT 15:10:44 RESULT  [    21  16  13  14    ~     9    2      ]

VF150417 EF82705F * LOW LRAC WDIV [ 21 5  7  16  18  ] [  21 NICCANOVA   .  ]. [ 5 DREAMS APL  .  ]. [ 7 CALANDA W%  .  ]. [ 16 SYLPHEED W  .  ]. [ 18 ASTARA W%   .  ]. [ ] F4 & 5LOW WDIV E/W BET *. 40%

VF150417 EF82705F * WMSPD ORD TNO [     8     13     16     14     20      2      7     10     12     18     22     23     19      4     21      9      5     ]  * ] BMVRS/W [  ]*SPL*
VF150417 EF82705F * WMSPD RTG ORD [  997   986   985   984   970   954   951   943   937   937   922   918   899   895   874   859   775   ] IMPORTANT
VF150417 EF82705F * RQOD WMSPD RO [  11.2   11.2   11.2   11.3   13   16.1   16.9   19   20.7   20.7   25.6   27.7   39.7   43.8   71.2   104.1   ] IN WMSPD ORDER. $PRICE/1 CALCULATED RQD ODDS ON WT MODIFIED SPEED RATINGS *

VF150417 EF82705F * TOP 2X8 LINES [  2  8 13  21  5  12 14 4  ]  CHK TOP8 RESULT  [    21  16  13  14                    ]. 

VF150417 EF82705F * KEY SPEED NOS [   16  +!.  =*NK*. ] +! = LRWD]. *HiWM>GW$C [ < 4+TJ!. +GW!.  3y <. < 5+!.  3y< ]. *N1/2W<<SP= 14  4  << 18  <<=BDUPL. *BP%P*= 21<: ]. <<] *Hi+B$$E= 2  S/WDual IS [ 16 ] * ]CKCNT. *

VF150417 EF82705F * VALU% SELECT [  [  13 I THOUGHT  3yo  43% $16 Ds= 21 ]. [  14 RIVER RACE 3yo -3% $11 Ds= 21 ]. [  16 SYLPHEED W 3yo  34% $15 Ds= 14 ]. [  18 ASTARA W%  3yo  1% $21 Ds= 28 ]. [  20 VOLPINO W% 3yo  369% $61 Ds= 21 ]. [  22 SOCIAL CON 3yo  162% $67 Ds= 13 ]. [  23 CRITICAL T 3yo  84% $51 Ds= 14 ].  END ] @ 15:18:41 05-27-2017

VF150417 EF82705F * TOP5 RNK MVRS [  4 FRANCE W%  C=46 3yo  ]  5 DREAMS APL C=37 3yo  ] 21 NICCANOVA  C=29 3yo  ]  9 OINK W% 23 C=9 3yo  ]  22 SOCIAL CON C=7 3yo  ]  * T5TTLMVS[  4 5 21 9 22 A S/A F4$. CHK $T/J]*  SPCL MOVE TOTS FOR F4'S AT LEAST RESIDS. ** [  4  5  9  21  22  ] **  MUST CONSIDER IN NSW N VIC TAB FIRST FOURS

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   *  Not absolutely sure, but I would think studies for the other races would show something similar.
 
 
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« 2017-May-29, 09:45 AM Reply #38 »
Eagle Farm track debate heats upBACK TO HEADLINES Monday 29 May, 2017 Tweet
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The Brisbane Race Club has an urgent meeting with racing minister Grace Grace in an effort to overturn a decision to move the Queensland Oaks meeting from Eagle Farm.

It has put the BRC on a head-on collision course with the sport's governing body, Racing Queensland.

The stand-off has the potential to severely damage finances for both the BRC and RQ with millions of dollars in revenue and betting turnover in the balance.

After originally saying Saturday's Oaks meeting would go ahead at Eagle Farm, RQ announced on Sunday afternoon it would not be run at the track.

But RQ has yet to announce an alternative venue.

There are major problems with some other tracks unable to handle large crowds, pre-sales and distance changes in transferring the meetings.

RQ made the change after widespread criticism about the state of the Eagle Farm track after Saturday's Kingsford Smith Cup program.

"The decision, in light of the track performance at Eagle Farm ... was made in order to present the best possible surface for Group 1 racing," an RQ statement said.

"RQ has consulted widely with industry associations and gained feedback from a wide selection of members including the nation's leading participants."

RQ said the consensus was that the track was safe but inferior.

After a phone hook-up between directors which lasted several hours on Sunday night the Brisbane Race Club decided to hold firm.

BRC spokesman Michael Crutcher said the club did not agree with moving the meeting and the track was safe for racing.

He said the racing minister had agreed to attend a meeting on Monday and it was hoped RQ would also attend.

"The BRC was surprised by RQ's decision. After Saturday's meeting RQ stated the rest of the carnival would be at Eagle Farm" he said.

Crutcher said RQ had not provided further information, most importantly about a new venue.

"Evergreen who took over maintenance of the track in March have assured us it is safe to race," he said.

Crutcher said betting on the Kingsford Smith Cup meeting had been favourable and maintenance was continuing at Eagle Farm.

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Who will win this tug of war RQ or BRC......where will they race is the issue...... BRC loses revenue if races at EF are cancelled RQ has overall responsibility so their view should prevail and races transferred to Doomben would be my guess.........RQ should have consulted BRC before announcing the change on Sunday.


Giddy Up :beer:



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« 2017-May-29, 10:08 AM Reply #39 »
To my way of thinking -there were 2 horses on Saturday, who had not been to Eagle Farm before, who had standout heavy track form for their races.

Those 2 horses were Burning Passion who won the first race and Jungle Edge who ran 2nd in the Group 1 race. I believe Jungle Edge was only beaten because of the length of the straight at Eagle Farm.

Although the track is not the way it should be it did seem to run true to a very heavy track.

God we have just spend most of the Autumn betting on wet tracks in Sydney so what is the problem with adjusting the form for a wet track in Brisbane.

Having said that, I guess after yesterday's premature announcement from RQ, Doomben should have the Oaks meeting but there is no way the Stradbroke should be moved from Eagle Farm



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« 2017-May-29, 10:18 AM Reply #40 »
Hmmmm,

Perhaps they should rename Evergreen ..... Everheavy..

Safe ..... ??     I think I'd be tailed off 80 lengths too having copped 2 black eyes from giant clods in the face during running?

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« 2017-May-29, 10:27 AM Reply #41 »
  *  The Signature race of the meeting a Group 1  Event was Eagle Farm Race  7.  *

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VF150417 EF72705F * RACE NAME ID* [ EF72705F  2017. KINGSFORD-SMITH CUP. GROUP 1  HEAVY ( 8 ) ,,,,,,,,,,, 1300 mtrs]. COMPRUN 05-29-2017. AT 10:06:24 RESULT  [     6  8  5  14   ~   1   11   ]

VF150417 EF72705F * LOW LRAC WDIV [  6 1  10  12 ] [  6 CLEARLY IN  .  ]. [ 1 BLACK HEAR  .  ]. [ 10 HOPFGARTEN  .  ]. [ 12 TYCOON TAR  .  ]. [ 8 JUNGLE EDG  .  ]. [ ] F4 & 5LOW WDIV E/W BET *

VF150417 EF72705F * WMSPD ORD TNO [     7     10      1      6     11      5     12      2      3      9      8      4     14     ]  * ] BMVRS/W [  1 BLACK HEART   6yo < . . Dtl= 7 ] 11 DERRYN W% 25  3yo <. Dtl= 14 ] ]*SPL*
VF150417 EF72705F * WMSPD RTG ORD [  998   997   958   949   890   889   888   879   847   841   812   789   755   ] IMPORTANT
VF150417 EF72705F * RQOD WMSPD RO [  5.1   5.1   6.8   7.9   19.8   20.3   20.7   25.1   51.9   59.3   111.3   166.5   ] IN WMSPD ORDER. $PRICE/1 CALCULATED RQD ODDS ON WT MODIFIED SPEED RATINGS *

VF150417 EF72705F * GW$CLASS$ ORD [  11    14    3    5    1    2    9    4    12    6    10    7    8   ].  14 IMPEND 49d  100m  .5k  3y]  [ 3 JAPONI 14d  100m  .5k  4y]  [ 4 MUSIC  14d  100m  .5k  5y]  [ 11 DERRYN 14d  100m  0k  3y.

VF150417 EF72705F * TOP 2X8 LINES [ 1  7  10 6 11 14  8  5 * ESP @ 1300m. ]. CHK TOP8 LOW P/Div. DUPLS F4 MUSTS. EF7 [*QNLA*  1  7  ]$6. +BMF/Ps TRIFs  F4's DBL TRIOs.

VF150417 EF72705F * KEY SPEED NOS [   1  +!. +TJ!.  =*NK*.  6  +!. +TJ!.  5  +GW!. +TJ!.  7   10  +!. +TJ!.  11  +GW!. +TJ!.  .]>1.  8  +!.  12  +!. +TJ!. ] +! = LRWD]. *HiWM>GW$C [ < 14+GW!.  3y <. < 3+TJ!. +GW!.  4y< ]. *N1/2W<<SP= 11  14  << 5  <<=BDUPL. *BP%P*= 1<: ]. <<] S/WDual IS [ 1 ] * ]CKCNT. *

VF150417 EF72705F * TOP5 RNK MVRS [  14 IMPENDING  C=19 3yo  ]  8 JUNGLE EDG C=17 6yo  ]  5 COUNTERATT C=11 4yo  ] 3 JAPONISME  C=10 4yo  ]  4 MUSIC MAGN C=8 5yo  ]  * T5TTLMVS[  14 8 5 3 4 A S/A F4$. CHK $T/J]*  SPCL MOVE TOTS FOR F4'S AT LEAST RESIDS. ** [  3  5  8  ] **  MUST CONSIDER IN NSW N VIC TAB FIRST FOURS

 F4 selection Section removed as it was not  quite correct in that it only had three of the First Four placings in the top 7 selections shown in The Key Speed Nos Line, but the result was safe, fair and honest, as   @sum(  +6 +8 +5 +14 ) =??. 
 
   
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« 2017-May-29, 10:59 AM Reply #42 »
Ten days of clear skies  with 25 degree plus temperatures and Eagle Farm is a heavy 8  . What happens if it rains? And yes of course there were winners to be found on Saturday. Even if a race takes 15 minutes there will be a winner ; computer programmes or not.
Can't believe someone suggested that because we had wet tracks in Sydney in the Autumn it was okay to have wet tracks in Brisbane. Seriously it rained incessantly in Sydney but that is hardly a justification to produce a sub standard facility in Brisbane. The bigger issue for the Government will be the  shocking waste of public funds to create such a fiasco.

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« 2017-May-29, 11:41 AM Reply #43 »
Yes sure it rained in Sydney, as it has always done  in the Autumn from when I first started following races in the 1960s, and yes it hasn't rained in Brisbane.

The fact remains that the track is heavy and obviously there is incompetence involved in the production of the track but it is a heavy track and that's what you bet to.

I'm sure Brian Smith and the owners of Order Again don't want the Derby at Doomben.

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« 2017-May-29, 12:50 PM Reply #44 »
The Queensland Racing Industry is suffering due to too many people with zero knowledge of horticulture getting involved in areas that they should have butted out.

The BRC debate and authority over the type of soil and sand to be used should not have been left to "know it all's" with zero knowledge.

The first thing all qualified horticulturists and greenkeepers will tell you is that drainage is the key to all grass surfaces. The quality of the soil and sand is paramount to root growth and binding power of the root system.

So what do the brains at the BRC do?

They think by saving $8 a tonne by buying crap sand with basically no drainage ability was a smart move.

Then the fertiliser being used promotes leaf growth but does basically nothing for root growth.

Well congratulation to the BRC for the biggest fiasco seen in QLD Racing for the last 40 years.

Hang your heads in shame but better still resign and stick to areas that you might know something about.

If you were employed in any other industry you would all be sacked and moved on.

 :rant: :mad: :rant:

 

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« 2017-May-29, 01:52 PM Reply #45 »
Ten days of clear skies  with 25 degree plus temperatures and Eagle Farm is a heavy 8  . What happens if it rains? And yes of course there were winners to be found on Saturday. Even if a race takes 15 minutes there will be a winner ; computer programmes or not.
Can't believe someone suggested that because we had wet tracks in Sydney in the Autumn it was okay to have wet tracks in Brisbane. Seriously it rained incessantly in Sydney but that is hardly a justification to produce a sub standard facility in Brisbane. The bigger issue for the Government will be the  shocking waste of public funds to create such a fiasco.

Exactly. Comparisons to Sydney in the Autumn totally inappropriate in light of this discussion.

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« 2017-May-29, 02:00 PM Reply #46 »
The Queensland Racing Industry is suffering due to too many people with zero knowledge of horticulture getting involved in areas that they should have butted out.


Morts. This part.

Is happening all over the place - not just racing in Queensland.

People have worked out that if you empower yourself you can get more money.

Empowering yourself in an area where you have little knowledge is OK to these people. They just get other people to do the complex operational stuff while they rattle on about "glass ceilings" or "assisting indigenous communities" or some other non-related politically correct subject that no-one dares to call out.

At the end of the day you get something like is happening in Queensland racing. These people get paid heaps. The ones who have been there for years and have the operational experience and should be looked after - they leave in disgust. And the empowered ones never, ever face any accountability. They are very careful to step around anything that may show they are "emperors without clothes".

It is happening everywhere, and in both private and public sectors. Australia is heading down the path of some politically correct banana republic.

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« 2017-May-29, 03:34 PM Reply #47 »
The Queensland Oaks meeting has been transferred from the much-maligned Eagle Farm track to Doomben.

Racing Queensland is also expected to confirm the Group One Stradbroke Handicap meeting on June 10 will be transferred to Doomben but it will first have to be cleared legally by the RQ board.

RQ officials met with Brisbane Race Club representatives for an hour on Monday morning to discuss the changes.

Racing Minister Grace Grace was to attend the meeting but was called to cabinet at the last minute.  :lol:

Following the meeting, the BRC was issued with two legal control body instructions ľ the first not to race at Eagle Farm on Saturday and the second to race at Doomben.


Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2017-May-29, 06:40 PM Reply #48 »
Confirmed this afternoon that Stradbroke Day will also be at Doomben.

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« 2017-May-29, 06:43 PM Reply #49 »


Following the meeting, the BRC was issued with two legal control body instructions ľ the first not to race at Eagle Farm on Saturday and the second to race at Doomben.




What does that bit mean? It is some form of newly invented media speak to replace the term legal threat?

The "empowered ones" will win this one. They have set it up so they always do. And they will take no blame if something happens  :nowink:


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