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Offline Gintara

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« 2017-Aug-05, 09:53 AM Reply #100 »

Gintara, what do you think about the change of grass type?

Grats, I'll go through and point out the flaws & PR spin later on tonight on all that's posted above but the change to couch concerns me  :sweat:

I love couch but there is no doubt they will have to oversow with a rye grass through winter, it simply won't produce any recovery (btw - this is totally different to what Arsey is talking about, totally different grasses and costs)


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« 2017-Aug-05, 11:26 AM Reply #101 »
Thanks mate

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« 2017-Aug-08, 06:20 AM Reply #102 »
What tracks in QLD are currently racing on couch ?
Anybody know what Doomben or The sunny coast have ?

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« 2017-Aug-08, 07:54 AM Reply #103 »
Magic, I stand corrected as I'm not in Qld but I think there is only one and it's in Nth Qld.  :chin:

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« 2017-Aug-08, 08:02 AM Reply #104 »
None of like to say I told you so but I told you so, no one was interested instead it was head in the sand stuff. Note the dates  :whistle:

Instead we've had 12 months to compound the problems  :wacko:

From an outsider looking in I doubt they need to start afresh, get the 'Topmaker' in and remove the black pudgy layer that is the root of all the problem. Then bring in enough soil required to blend with the existing profile and laser to the desired levels, returf - done.

There are only a few products on the market that you could use to amend the profile without affecting your infiltration & percolation rates ..... trust me, chicken manure fines are not one of those  :shutup:

Without knowing or seeing the sand specs Morts it's really hard to know but honestly for a racetrack I doubt even if it locked down affecting the infiltration rate on the surface, regular Verti-draining (common practice) would negate this. It's not like it's a golf green cut at 3mm where ball roll / surface quality are paramount.

I'd be very surprised if the thing wasn't constructed properly but it's what's been put in place during the grow in and subsequent racing year that has caused the problems. :chin:

Anyone bothered to read the report? Wonder what that cost  :chin: I guess we've got to where I was telling you all for the last 12 months  :whistle:

Anyway Sports Turf Consultants who under took the review are pretty good but I did have a chuckle when it was peer reviewed by Dr Battam.

Dr Battam is one of the most knowledge people on soil science but he's widely known to dislike sand, he'd much prefer to build with loam or heavier materials, so they might as well put their own rubber stamp on it as they would have known the outcome.
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« 2017-Aug-08, 02:02 PM Reply #105 »

Archie has his say on the track, and other matters, Ascot related

https://itsnotnormalisit.com/author/fintanpwalsh/
« Last Edit: 2017-Aug-08, 02:07 PM by arthur »

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« 2017-Aug-08, 05:13 PM Reply #106 »
So the Director takes a $150,000 from the members' funds for his own firm to flog some prime land to Australia's largest residential builder. Are these jokers at the BRC for real ? Their incompetence , as everyone knows, has no bounds. Now it appears some more sinister matters require full scrutiny. If the Minister was even half on the ball they would have all been dismissed by now. As she isn't, hopefully the members will take matters into their own hands and get rid of these clowns.

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« 2017-Aug-08, 06:07 PM Reply #107 »
Archie has his say on the track, and other matters, Ascot related

https://itsnotnormalisit.com/author/fintanpwalsh/

Wow that was a hell of a read  :lol:
Who is this Archie fella.
I suggest he's in trouble when he gets home after stating

"given that I was punting at the Farm and Doomben before I could walk and that love racing even more than I do shagging my missus"

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« 2017-Aug-08, 08:40 PM Reply #108 »
Was this proposed unit site based in Auguthella or Blackall ? Or is  it based in one of the major growth corridors of Queensland for unit development ? The latter is the answer. So why were my funds given to this Director to sell "ice creams to Eskimos "? It is now a question I will be asking of the BRC. I will also be directing my solicitor to ask the same questions of the CCC and ASIC. They think have no accountability these stooges.

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« 2017-Aug-10, 09:20 AM Reply #109 »
Gotta love Archie.  He's got more Eagle Farm news today on his blog.

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« 2017-Aug-18, 08:02 PM Reply #110 »
Farm surface tension as RQ, BRC argue over replacement profile
NATHAN EXELBY, The Courier-Mail
August 17, 2017 5:00pm
RACING Queensland and the Brisbane Racing Club are at odds over the profile of the ­replacement Eagle Farm surface, with the timeline to resume racing at the venue next April rated as “ambitious”.

The BRC met Racing Queensland this week after the formation of a project control group to oversee the renovations at Eagle Farm.

In the wake of that meeting, BRC chief executive Dave Whimpey on Thursday raised a number of conflicting views with RQ in an interview with Radio TAB.

“The BRC is concerned about the time frame. We think the timeline is ambitious,” Whimpey said.

“We would like evidence where tracks have been significantly renovated and then come back (in a similar time frame). We are not going to rush this track to come back.

“We want to be far more engaged in the way this track trials before we accept this track back.”

There remains fear within the BRC that a sand profile provides more risks than a sandy loam surface and that couch grass can cope with year-round use.

There have also been questions raised about the workload of Eagle Farm, which will be reduced to a far smaller percentage, at least in the first three years, if the 100 per cent sand profile remains.

“We would like to source (a sandy loam profile) even if angular sand can be found,” Whimpey said.

“We want to make sure we have a track that can race 40-45 times a year.”

The excessive turf kickback that occurred on Kingsford Smith Cup Day which drew heavy criticism. Pictu AAP

RQ chief executive Eliot Forbes reiterated the control body had accepted recommendations made by Dale Monteith and sports turf consultants in the independent track review and refuted suggestions Eagle Farm would not cope with a bigger schedule.

“RQ is confident maintaining a sand-based track is the best solution to return Eagle Farm to regular racing,” he said.

“Sand-based tracks continue to perform with correct maintenance across the state, with the likes of Toowoomba scheduled to host 45 meetings this season. RQ understands the importance of Eagle Farm to the racing industry.”

Forbes said the recommendations for the track had been agreed “in principle” by RQ and the BRC.

Couch will be a change for the track surface  wouldn't be as tough as Kikuyu....time will tell if the experts have got it right.

Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2017-Aug-18, 08:44 PM Reply #111 »
Who would give a toss about anything The "Whimp " said . I am astounded him and the fools who make up the Board of Directors haven't been dismissed by now. It is well and truly overdue.

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« 2017-Aug-18, 10:15 PM Reply #112 »
Farm surface tension as RQ, BRC argue over replacement profile


RQ chief executive Eliot Forbes reiterated the control body had accepted recommendations made by Dale Monteith and sports turf consultants in the independent track review and refuted suggestions Eagle Farm would not cope with a bigger schedule.

“RQ is confident maintaining a sand-based track is the best solution to return Eagle Farm to regular racing,” he said.

“Sand-based tracks continue to perform with correct maintenance across the state, with the likes of Toowoomba scheduled to host 45 meetings this season. RQ understands the importance of Eagle Farm to the racing industry.”

Forbes said the recommendations for the track had been agreed “in principle” by RQ and the BRC.


Giddy Up :beer:


There it is in a nutshell, don't bury it in chook shit and look after it properly.  :whistle:

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« 2017-Nov-06, 09:17 PM Reply #113 »
None of like to say I told you so but I told you so, no one was interested instead it was head in the sand stuff. Note the dates  :whistle:

Instead we've had 12 months to compound the problems  :wacko:

From an outsider looking in I doubt they need to start afresh, get the 'Topmaker' in and remove the black pudgy layer that is the root of all the problem. Then bring in enough soil required to blend with the existing profile and laser to the desired levels, returf - done.

There are only a few products on the market that you could use to amend the profile without affecting your infiltration & percolation rates ..... trust me, chicken manure fines are not one of those  :shutup:

Without knowing or seeing the sand specs Morts it's really hard to know but honestly for a racetrack I doubt even if it locked down affecting the infiltration rate on the surface, regular Verti-draining (common practice) would negate this. It's not like it's a golf green cut at 3mm where ball roll / surface quality are paramount.

I'd be very surprised if the thing wasn't constructed properly but it's what's been put in place during the grow in and subsequent racing year that has caused the problems.  :chin:

Oh look! What do we see in the picture on the itsnotnormalisit blog? Is that a 'Topmaker' I spy?

https://itsnotnormalisit.com/2017/11/06/he-said-dig-100-millimetres-not-100-metres-stop-that-truck-before-he-digs-the-farm-down-to-hell/

*sigh*

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« 2017-Nov-08, 07:03 PM Reply #114 »
Steve Hewlett on radio 4TAB today interviewed  Dr Eliot Forbes  about  the Eagle Farm  track resurface ......turns out  they couldn't source enough of Winter Green couch and have decided to go with a different species of couch  Prime I think he said it's called ......Gintara would know it I expect.

Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2017-Nov-12, 12:12 PM Reply #115 »
From the Sunday Courier Mail

Horse owner Nick Meredith banned from Doomben Racecourse

Tom Snowdon, The Sunday Mail (Qld)

The trouble-plagued Brisbane Racing Club has banned an owner from watching his own horse race after he criticised the disastrous Eagle Farm Racecourse.

Racing identity Nick Meredith said police were called to escort him from Doomben Racecourse on Derby Day – one of the busiest race meets of the year – last Saturday for his “on-track behaviour”.

The former soccer star, who was giving mounting-yard advice to other owners, said there was no legitimate reason for the eviction or the indefinite ban that was imposed.

He said he was later told it was payback for critical comments made on social media by his group, The Punters Collective, in August about Eagle Farm Racecourse.

“I’ve been on course at Doomben at least three times since then, but they chose that weekend to do it,” Mr Meredith said.

“They could have contacted me at any time over that period to have a discussion but they obviously wanted to make a scene out of it.”

The Punters Collective had previously been issued a cease-and-desist order on filming mounting yards at all race meets on orders from Sky Racing, which owns the broadcast rights. The group agreed to stop filming.

Mr Meredith’s horse, Captain Dodge, raced on Saturday but the owner was unable to attend the track because of the ban.

When asked about its ruling, BRC released a statement saying the club would “always protect the rights of stakeholders who provide financial support to the Queensland racing industry”.

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Mr Meredith said: “The track was an unmitigated disaster that has cost the industry a fortune.

“I’ve got a friend who nearly lost a horse through illness from soil that landed in its throat during a race. It was absolutely toxic.”

A report commissioned by Racing Queensland found the track’s troubles were due to factors that included the chosen sand and grass, maintenance programs, and a full racing program.

Racing is expected to return to Eagle Farm in April next year for the Brisbane Racing Carnival.

Mr Meredith said he had written to the Queensland Racing Integrity Commission, Racing Australia, and the Office of Liquor and Gaming Regulation but none were able to help.

He is now considering legal action.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/horse-owner-nick-meredith-banned-from-doomben-racecourse

https://horsebetting.com.au/racing-queensland-shuts-down-punters-filming-on-course/24028/
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« 2017-Nov-29, 10:04 PM Reply #116 »
Heavy rain in Brisbane today caused some flash flooding on the northside .........Eagle Farm infield stables were underwater as this snap shot on LGHR shows,

http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/

Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2017-Nov-29, 10:27 PM Reply #117 »
Gee Double Dee (in exile ) any possible remote hope you clowns could get something right ?


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