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« 2019-Oct-25, 10:19 AM Reply #275 »
https://www.racenet.com.au/news/pro-punter-beats-fraud-charges-20191023


The biggest win during the scheme was in February 2013 when a $1600 bet returned $56,000 when Alma’s Fury strode to victory in the Group II Apollo Stakes at Warwick Farm.

Betfair results seem to try to be nearly as useless as Tabcorp.

Anyway the $1600 bet was @$36.

OP was $19.
TF $21.

BSP incompetently unavailable.

But if it was anywhere near SP then there was a clear financial advantage through Laying with Betair, a cohort Bookmaker or Triads.



https://www.racing.com/form/2013-02-23/warwick-farm/race/6
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« 2019-Oct-25, 03:32 PM Reply #276 »

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« 2019-Oct-25, 09:52 PM Reply #277 »
All is revealed!


https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/5dae75dce4b0c3247d712821

How can you read all that.

I notice people are quoting the last few points e.g.

At law, what the accused obtained by virtue of his deception was the benefit of an opportunity to potentially obtain a financial advantage. The financial advantage did not arise until the horse or dog he placed a bet on, won. Unlike Button or Lambassi there is no evidence the accused had any influence over that result. Causation as to financial advantage cannot be established on the evidence on any count.

So are people skipping over the majority of the document and going straight to the bottom?

Shame on you if you are   :lol:

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« 2019-Oct-26, 07:46 AM Reply #278 »
Your stunning effort of criticising the ABC program you refused to watch, is hard to top.

But here you've done it in a canter.

So you are chastising me for what you've just done. With zero basis for your accusation!

Now anyone troubling to read through the whole ruling might find some extremely damaging testimony.

But don't let that stop any of you again running off your ignorant mouse.

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« 2019-Oct-26, 10:21 AM Reply #279 »
The flamboyant Mr Fletcher, 47, celebrated with friends including racing and
sporting stars
, at lunch at top Sydney eatery Rockpool with champagne and an
up-market pork chop meal.



http://ausrace.com/pipermail/racing_ausrace.com/2019-October/001459.html

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« 2019-Oct-26, 11:48 AM Reply #280 »
Interesting ruling. It now means “bowlers” can re-exist in the open in the digital world unless the prosecution wants to have another go on fraud charges.

It made me laugh when I read part of the argument from the betting agencies regarding money laundering. I think they only object to money laundering when they lose and not when they win.

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« 2019-Oct-26, 02:23 PM Reply #281 »
means “bowlers” can re-exist in the open in the digital world

. . and with the slings S.F pays, he should have no trouble getting 'new blood' when the corps get fly





 :chin: Who remembers that now extinct species . . The Commission Agent

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« 2019-Oct-27, 04:03 PM Reply #282 »
A telephone intercept on 7 March 2013 with Luke McDonald (an apparent employee at bet365) recorded the accused saying: “Have a look at what it says on the, the account I’m using as a bodgy at the moment, Matty Seags. M A, double T, Y S, can you look at the account, see what it says about it” (Ex 3, p 163).


So an apparent BET365 employee is actually helping Fletcher fleece BET365.

Wonder how long the perp kept his job?

And what is that perp doing now?

Is he perhaps any or all these identities?

https://au.linkedin.com/in/luke-macdonald-b7a7a748

https://fairwageringaustralia.com/

Motel manager for Hawkesbury Race Club.

If so it seems there are more Sally Snows around for Fletcher's benefit.



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« 2019-Oct-27, 07:40 PM Reply #283 »


Smoke and Fire


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« 2019-Oct-27, 07:47 PM Reply #284 »

Smoke and Fire

I am still counting to ten before re-engaging.

In court, Stephen Fletcher made an excellent impression -- just being there.

I do not know him -- but he had 'good guy' written all over his face.

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« 2019-Oct-27, 08:14 PM Reply #285 »
Bookmakers are under the illusion that banning or restricting punters improves their bottom line.

Whenever a bookmaker bans or restrict a punter, they have to pay that punter again in freebies when he gets a new bowler.

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« 2019-Oct-27, 09:10 PM Reply #286 »
I do not know him -- but he had 'good guy' written all over his face.

Nor I . . and I am sure he is a good guy . . but if ever I meet him I will be sure to count my fingers after shaking hands

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« 2019-Oct-27, 09:36 PM Reply #287 »
Peter,

Your idiocy goes on unabated.

There is a long line of people who have come off badly having associated with this fellow.

Fours

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« 2019-Oct-27, 10:08 PM Reply #288 »


No one -- and none of 'them' -- has said so -- that's the trouble with smoke and fire.

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« 2019-Oct-28, 05:26 AM Reply #289 »
I presume the Christopher Wyllie referred to in the summary is top centre in this picture.

Stephen Wyllie also worked for Fletcher - as mentioned in Kate McClymont's original article. He was once engaged to Sophia Tilley.

Matthew (then 19) had teeth knocked out and a broken jaw while celebrating Stephen's 21st.

Don't ask me where Greg junior fits into the equation.



https://www.news.com.au/national/police-say-attacker-boasted-i-knocked-all-of-his-teeth-out/news-story/3cfbe469c2d8de01b3c9028931fd7816?sv=d9bfb7fb4f337c519a243b4e8dc2811a

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« 2019-Oct-30, 05:10 PM Reply #290 »

I do not know him -- but he had 'good guy' written all over his face.

Perhaps some need reminding of some of his other activities.

Fletcher partly owned a Corporate!

And he "consulted" to other Corporates. Wouldn't surprise me if that meant ratting out his opponents.


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« 2019-Oct-30, 08:27 PM Reply #291 »


He does seem to have put a fox in the corporate hen-house

                  .............................. and the fox probably had the rats on the run as well

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« 2019-Nov-10, 04:03 PM Reply #292 »

ANY ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE DECISION TO PROSECUTE?



While the 'Fletcher matter' was predictably resolved with his acquittal a couple of weeks ago, the question remains on the table as to why this prosecution opened after a very long delay and in circumstances where the outcome was so reasonably evident from the 'moment' the hearing of the charges began.

In my mind there is a story here that has not been told -- a story that should be told about why the prosecution was launched and the practical consequences of it running on for some three weeks.

In my mind everyone in the court had more useful things to do with both their time and the money spent.

In would like to see an application made for 'costs' and, if it was to be resisted, to sit in on an open hearing that required a full explanation of the decision to proceed to prosecution.

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The Fletcher matter looks like an open and shut case,

               ..... a case that should not have been opened should now be shut.

It won’t be and that is the real question on the table for discussion.


In effect this case ran to three sentences:


1.   The accused, Stephen Charles   Fletcher   was arraigned on 2 October 2019 ........... an indictment charging 78 counts .............. asserting that he dishonestly either obtained a benefit or caused a disadvantage by a deceptive act

2.   At the conclusion of the Crown case on 17 October 2019 the accused made an application for directed verdicts on all counts on the indictment.

107.   I will direct verdicts of acquittal in respect of the 78 counts on the indictment.






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