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« 2019-Oct-25, 10:19 AM Reply #275 »
https://www.racenet.com.au/news/pro-punter-beats-fraud-charges-20191023


The biggest win during the scheme was in February 2013 when a $1600 bet returned $56,000 when Alma’s Fury strode to victory in the Group II Apollo Stakes at Warwick Farm.

Betfair results seem to try to be nearly as useless as Tabcorp.

Anyway the $1600 bet was @$36.

OP was $19.
TF $21.

BSP incompetently unavailable.

But if it was anywhere near SP then there was a clear financial advantage through Laying with Betair, a cohort Bookmaker or Triads.



https://www.racing.com/form/2013-02-23/warwick-farm/race/6
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« 2019-Oct-25, 03:32 PM Reply #276 »

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« 2019-Oct-25, 09:52 PM Reply #277 »
All is revealed!


https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/5dae75dce4b0c3247d712821

How can you read all that.

I notice people are quoting the last few points e.g.

At law, what the accused obtained by virtue of his deception was the benefit of an opportunity to potentially obtain a financial advantage. The financial advantage did not arise until the horse or dog he placed a bet on, won. Unlike Button or Lambassi there is no evidence the accused had any influence over that result. Causation as to financial advantage cannot be established on the evidence on any count.

So are people skipping over the majority of the document and going straight to the bottom?

Shame on you if you are   :lol:

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« 2019-Oct-26, 07:46 AM Reply #278 »
Your stunning effort of criticising the ABC program you refused to watch, is hard to top.

But here you've done it in a canter.

So you are chastising me for what you've just done. With zero basis for your accusation!

Now anyone troubling to read through the whole ruling might find some extremely damaging testimony.

But don't let that stop any of you again running off your ignorant mouse.

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« 2019-Oct-26, 10:21 AM Reply #279 »
The flamboyant Mr Fletcher, 47, celebrated with friends including racing and
sporting stars
, at lunch at top Sydney eatery Rockpool with champagne and an
up-market pork chop meal.



http://ausrace.com/pipermail/racing_ausrace.com/2019-October/001459.html

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« 2019-Oct-26, 11:48 AM Reply #280 »
Interesting ruling. It now means “bowlers” can re-exist in the open in the digital world unless the prosecution wants to have another go on fraud charges.

It made me laugh when I read part of the argument from the betting agencies regarding money laundering. I think they only object to money laundering when they lose and not when they win.

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« 2019-Oct-26, 02:23 PM Reply #281 »
means “bowlers” can re-exist in the open in the digital world

. . and with the slings S.F pays, he should have no trouble getting 'new blood' when the corps get fly





 :chin: Who remembers that now extinct species . . The Commission Agent

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« 2019-Oct-27, 04:03 PM Reply #282 »
A telephone intercept on 7 March 2013 with Luke McDonald (an apparent employee at bet365) recorded the accused saying: “Have a look at what it says on the, the account I’m using as a bodgy at the moment, Matty Seags. M A, double T, Y S, can you look at the account, see what it says about it” (Ex 3, p 163).


So an apparent BET365 employee is actually helping Fletcher fleece BET365.

Wonder how long the perp kept his job?

And what is that perp doing now?

Is he perhaps any or all these identities?

https://au.linkedin.com/in/luke-macdonald-b7a7a748

https://fairwageringaustralia.com/

Motel manager for Hawkesbury Race Club.

If so it seems there are more Sally Snows around for Fletcher's benefit.



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« 2019-Oct-27, 07:40 PM Reply #283 »


Smoke and Fire


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« 2019-Oct-27, 07:47 PM Reply #284 »

Smoke and Fire

I am still counting to ten before re-engaging.

In court, Stephen Fletcher made an excellent impression -- just being there.

I do not know him -- but he had 'good guy' written all over his face.

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« 2019-Oct-27, 08:14 PM Reply #285 »
Bookmakers are under the illusion that banning or restricting punters improves their bottom line.

Whenever a bookmaker bans or restrict a punter, they have to pay that punter again in freebies when he gets a new bowler.

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« 2019-Oct-27, 09:10 PM Reply #286 »
I do not know him -- but he had 'good guy' written all over his face.

Nor I . . and I am sure he is a good guy . . but if ever I meet him I will be sure to count my fingers after shaking hands

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« 2019-Oct-27, 09:36 PM Reply #287 »
Peter,

Your idiocy goes on unabated.

There is a long line of people who have come off badly having associated with this fellow.

Fours

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« 2019-Oct-27, 10:08 PM Reply #288 »


No one -- and none of 'them' -- has said so -- that's the trouble with smoke and fire.

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« 2019-Oct-28, 05:26 AM Reply #289 »
I presume the Christopher Wyllie referred to in the summary is top centre in this picture.

Stephen Wyllie also worked for Fletcher - as mentioned in Kate McClymont's original article. He was once engaged to Sophia Tilley.

Matthew (then 19) had teeth knocked out and a broken jaw while celebrating Stephen's 21st.

Don't ask me where Greg junior fits into the equation.



https://www.news.com.au/national/police-say-attacker-boasted-i-knocked-all-of-his-teeth-out/news-story/3cfbe469c2d8de01b3c9028931fd7816?sv=d9bfb7fb4f337c519a243b4e8dc2811a

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« 2019-Oct-30, 05:10 PM Reply #290 »

I do not know him -- but he had 'good guy' written all over his face.

Perhaps some need reminding of some of his other activities.

Fletcher partly owned a Corporate!

And he "consulted" to other Corporates. Wouldn't surprise me if that meant ratting out his opponents.


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« 2019-Oct-30, 08:27 PM Reply #291 »


He does seem to have put a fox in the corporate hen-house

                  .............................. and the fox probably had the rats on the run as well

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« 2019-Nov-10, 04:03 PM Reply #292 »

ANY ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE DECISION TO PROSECUTE?



While the 'Fletcher matter' was predictably resolved with his acquittal a couple of weeks ago, the question remains on the table as to why this prosecution opened after a very long delay and in circumstances where the outcome was so reasonably evident from the 'moment' the hearing of the charges began.

In my mind there is a story here that has not been told -- a story that should be told about why the prosecution was launched and the practical consequences of it running on for some three weeks.

In my mind everyone in the court had more useful things to do with both their time and the money spent.

In would like to see an application made for 'costs' and, if it was to be resisted, to sit in on an open hearing that required a full explanation of the decision to proceed to prosecution.

.........................

The Fletcher matter looks like an open and shut case,

               ..... a case that should not have been opened should now be shut.

It won’t be and that is the real question on the table for discussion.


In effect this case ran to three sentences:


1.   The accused, Stephen Charles   Fletcher   was arraigned on 2 October 2019 ........... an indictment charging 78 counts .............. asserting that he dishonestly either obtained a benefit or caused a disadvantage by a deceptive act

2.   At the conclusion of the Crown case on 17 October 2019 the accused made an application for directed verdicts on all counts on the indictment.

107.   I will direct verdicts of acquittal in respect of the 78 counts on the indictment.





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« 2020-Feb-15, 07:42 PM Reply #293 »
Judgment Summary
Supreme Court
New South Wales
Court of Appeal
Racing New South Wales v Fletcher [2020] NSWCA 9
Bell P, Meagher JA, Payne JA
The Court of Appeal has allowed an appeal from orders made in the Equity Division of the Supreme Court restraining Racing NSW (the appellant) from using information obtained from a mobile telephone belonging to Mr Stephen Fletcher (the respondent).

On 5 March 2019, Racing NSW Stewards had directed Mr Fletcher in writing to produce his mobile telephone for examination for the purpose of an inquiry they were conducting into the betting activities of a Mr and Mrs Snow. In compliance with that direction, Mr Fletcher gave the Stewards his phone and electronic images of the information it contained were generated and remain in the possession of Racing NSW.

On Mr Fletcher’s application, the primary judge made orders to the effect that Racing NSW could not use information obtained from Mr Fletcher’s phone for any purpose other than the specified investigation into the Snows without leave of the Court or Mr Fletcher’s consent.

There were two issues in the appeal. First, whether Mr Fletcher was bound to comply with the Stewards’ direction and second, whether the use to which Racing NSW could put the information acquired from Mr Fletcher’s phone was limited by the purpose specified in their written direction to him.

The Court of Appeal unanimously held that the Stewards’ power to investigate includes the power to initiate or commence an investigation. Information obtained in the exercise of that power, as Mr Fletcher’s phone was here, could be used for the purpose of any investigation or inquiry into a matter connected with racing, including use by informing a decision to initiate an investigation or inquiry.

Whilst the first question was not necessary to decide, two members of the Court expressed a tentative view that Mr Fletcher was bound to comply with the Stewards’ direction because s 13(1) of the Thoroughbred Racing Act 1996 (NSW) gives the investigative powers in the Rules of Racing of Racing NSW statutory force.

 In any event, Mr Fletcher was bound to comply with the direction because as a professional gambler who employed others to place bets for him he was party to a contract incorporating the Rules of Racing of Racing NSW.

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/5e4487f7e4b0a51ed5e2d442

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« 2020-Feb-15, 09:11 PM Reply #294 »

Stephen Fletcher -- the chase continues

It can be unsettling to have someone on your case with an open cheque book to cover costs.

Court grants Racing NSW right to inspect professional punter's phone

Racing NSW has been given the green light to image the contents of the mobile phone of professional gambler Stephen Fletcher after the Supreme Court on Friday ruled stewards had the right to look for any breaches of rules of racing.

Fletcher had surrendered his phone to stewards last year during an investigation into former TAB trading manager Sally Snow. Stewards suspected he had placed bets on behalf of her and husband Nathan.

[https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/racing-authorities-probe-link-between-pro-punter-fletcher-and-snow-20190313-p513y0.html]


Fletcher argued Racing NSW should be restricted to data relating to the Snow matter when they imaged his phone, but the Supreme Court found stewards had more extensive powers in relation to the rules of racing.

“The information obtained from Mr Fletcher’s phone could be used by the Stewards for the purpose of any investigation or inquiry into a matter in connection with racing, including use by informing a decision to initiate an investigation or inquiry,” the court judgment read.

It also stated: “whichever way the matter is approached, Mr Fletcher by his conduct as a professional gambler bound himself to comply with the Rules of Racing of Racing NSW.”

Sally Snow refused to hand over her phone for the investigation and was warned off from all racecourses by stewards and resigned her executive position at Tabcorp.

Stewards had been waiting for the ruling to continue the investigation into the Snow matter, which was sparked when Nathan Snow applied for a syndication licence. His financial records revealed a $10,000 transfer from Fletcher into his bank account.

In evidence tabled before the NSW Supreme Court, Racing NSW reported Nathan Snow told them he contacted Fletcher to help facilitate the wagers because he wasn't allowed to bet with Tabcorp because of his wife's then employment.

Racing NSW imaged Nathan Snow's phone last January and claimed the data showed the Snows had been "in regular communication" with Fletcher "in relation to bets which they, jointly and severally, were placing through [Fletcher], including bets laid at TAB outlets."

While conceding Racing NSW had legitimate reasons for wanting to access information on his phone in regards to the investigation into the Snows, Fletcher's legal counsel argued the body could be "fishing" to find data about his broader activities to take action against him.

Stewards had not started to image Fletcher’s phone until the Supreme Court ruling. Chief steward Marc Van Gestel said the decision would allow the investigation to continue and upheld the ability for Racing NSW to protect the integrity of the sport.

“We will have a thorough look at Mr Fletcher's phone now,” Van Gestel said. “The decision upholds our rights to look for any matter that would be a breach the rules of racing.

“We have several other phones in this matter and we will continue our investigations.”

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« 2020-Jun-08, 08:33 PM Reply #295 »
It looks like Hyeronimus is in trouble and could be a result of the Fletcher case if I read below correctly.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/group-i-winning-jockey-charged-with-betting-offences-20200608

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« 2020-Jun-09, 09:02 AM Reply #296 »
It looks like Hyeronimus is in trouble and could be a result of the Fletcher case if I read below correctly.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/group-i-winning-jockey-charged-with-betting-offences-20200608


The Fletcher NSW appeal case might possibly be of some precedent value to the jockey's defence team depending on the outcome you would think he would know better than to get involved with such a high profile person of interest and  there may be no connection at all  .......the strapper who is also charged is an associate of the jockey who allegedly placed bets on his behalf ...goes back away 2019.

After finding the courts decision it appears that the nub of the matter seems to be that the Court upheld the right of NSW stewards to use all of the details from Fletcher's phone not just the details of transactions with the Snows which was their original purpose....Racing NSW won the case Fletcher lost ....possibly Hyeronimous is on his contact list and if so that's bad news for him.
 

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/5e4487f7e4b0a51ed5e2d442

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« 2020-Jun-09, 11:42 AM Reply #297 »
Thanks Arsenal.

Might be some interesting days for any other jockeys who like to bet if it creates a precedent for the future.

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« 2020-Jun-09, 10:19 PM Reply #298 »
This is up and about at the moment.
Very entertaining reading.......3rd article.......go Archie!

https://peterprofit.com/category/the-gallops/

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« 2020-Jun-09, 11:02 PM Reply #299 »
Certainly an interesting read.
I was wondering why they nabbed Hypo for indiscretions so far back in the past


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