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« 2019-May-06, 06:56 PM Reply #75 »
And for Bubba . .

Those long white socks that the 'penciller' is wearing would have been a mite damp by the end of the meeting

Arthur, you beat me with that comment, I was about to make a similar comment. :beer:

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« 2019-May-06, 08:22 PM Reply #76 »
Arthur, you beat me

. . . only by 8 hours

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« 2019-May-06, 09:36 PM Reply #77 »
Arthur, I had not logged onto this particular thread in that 8 hours. I prioritized checking over my losses on the stock market today.

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« 2019-May-07, 07:39 AM Reply #78 »
You're not R. Crusoe there  :wavecry:

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« 2019-May-07, 10:42 AM Reply #79 »
The fellow with the magnifying glass is Brian Kelly. Previously he was a bookie but when this was taken (90s?) he was a punter/form analyst. I hope he found a winner.

   


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« 2019-May-07, 11:20 AM Reply #80 »
You're not R. Crusoe there  :wavecry:

Bit better today   emthup

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« 2019-May-08, 07:50 AM Reply #81 »
This photo gives you an idea of the activity on the "back" end of the bookie stands.

 



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« 2019-May-08, 09:19 AM Reply #82 »
Today, compared to that photo behind those bookie's stands , other than on major race days, you could aim a rifle at the rear of any bookies stand, if there are any, and not find one person in your firing range.

All these old photos illustrate how racing was once a popular sport when thousands attended on a regular basis , sadly today, it is the complete opposite.

Once TABs were on every street corner or in pubs, SKY channel covered racing wall-to-wall and mobile phones allowed punters to place bets few punters have ever considered attending a meeting.

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« 2019-May-08, 10:39 AM Reply #83 »
. . . . And the old diehards who do still go to the track generally refuse to attend on the 'major days' because they are out of their comfort zones, for various reasons




Not a computer in sight . . They taught 'mental arithmetic' in schools back then  :(

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« 2019-May-08, 11:26 AM Reply #84 »
Arthur, pencillers would know what to record in the book if a punter wanted $15 e/w on a runner at 13/8 .doubt many could calculate that bet today.  :lol:   :lol:

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« 2019-May-08, 11:59 AM Reply #85 »
I've asked this question here before . .

If a punter had $2.50 eachway @ 4-6 (6 to 4 on) and the horse deadheated for first . .

How would he finish up?

That was a question a bookie mate of mine would ask a potential clerk . . . (actually he would ask $20 ew)

Not really off topic, as this is a 'Good ol' Days' thread  :whistle:



The answer to your question is 24 to 15 each way . . but I had to think a bit

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« 2019-May-08, 12:49 PM Reply #86 »
It is good to see that the last photo posted has triggered some reminiscing. I was always gobsmacked by their mental agility as they called the bets.

Iíve just noticed that the front stand is that of Stan Schluther. Iíll have a photo of him somewhere.

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« 2019-May-09, 09:24 AM Reply #87 »
Punters listening to a race.




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« 2019-May-09, 09:46 AM Reply #88 »
I've asked this question here before . .

If a punter had $2.50 eachway @ 4-6 (6 to 4 on) and the horse deadheated for first . .

How would he finish up?

That was a question a bookie mate of mine would ask a potential clerk . . . (actually he would ask $20 ew)

Not really off topic, as this is a 'Good ol' Days' thread  :whistle:


The answer to your question is 24 to 15 each way . . but I had to think a bit

Arthur In my time bookies had to elect whether to bet win only or each way if the latter they attached a sign on the side of the betting board which read  something like this EW only at odds of 4 to 1 or better./////I haven't been since Eagle Farm was closed for track repairs so I'm unaware whether the current line up of bookies persists with this restriction..
There was a bookies clerk who was a maths wizard he may have worked for Digger Lobb I don't recall his name apart from remembering Owen was his first name but can still visualise his face he went on one of the radio shows solving maths calculations in his head and answering complicated questions in seconds.

Giddy Up :beer:
 

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« 2019-May-09, 11:24 AM Reply #89 »
Up this way in the past they bet each-way at any price . . but NOT on 2yo's, WFA/ Set weight, or races with an odds on favourite . .

In races where there is a stand-out favourite, each-way/ place bettors enjoy a huge advantage @ one-quarter of win odds . . Think Winx

In these computerised times, place odds and win odds are separate entities, not connected by any fixed 'rule' . . and with the 'mincer' they never were

In the bush at non-TAB's the bookies with 'Las Vegas' (computerised) boards bet WIN + PLACE, while those with traditional boards bet the traditional E-W . . (Bush prices usually have a bit more 'fat' )




And on the maths wizards . .

My dad told me about a mate of his (also a bookie's clerk) who could add up two columns of figures at the same time . . No great shakes?? . . Try it some time

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« 2019-May-09, 11:30 AM Reply #90 »
Up this way in the past they bet each-way at any price . . but NOT on 2yo's, WFA/ Set weight, or races with an odds on favourite . .

In races where there is a stand-out favourite, each-way/ place bettors enjoy a huge advantage @ one-quarter of win odds . . Think Winx

In these computerised times, place odds and win odds are separate entities, not connected by any fixed 'rule' . . and with the 'mincer' they never were

In the bush at non-TAB's the bookies with 'Las Vegas' (computerised) boards bet WIN + PLACE, while those with traditional boards bet the traditional E-W . . (Bush prices usually have a bit more 'fat' )






And on the maths wizards . .

My dad told me about a mate of his (also a bookie's clerk) who could add up two columns of figures at the same time . . No great shakes?? . . Try it some time

Arthur you've jogged my memory Owen Gill was the bookies clerk who I referred to. :thumbsup:

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« 2019-May-09, 12:01 PM Reply #91 »
In races where there is a stand-out favourite, each-way/ place bettors enjoy a huge advantage @ one-quarter of win odds . . Think Winx


My SP bookie only gave 1/4 odds for the place if there wasn't an odds-on favourite in the race.

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« 2019-May-09, 12:04 PM Reply #92 »
Up this way in the past they bet each-way at any price . . but NOT on 2yo's, WFA/ Set weight, or races with an odds on favourite . .

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« 2019-May-09, 12:10 PM Reply #93 »
Oops, I sped-read past the odds-on bit in your past :embarrassed:

But gave 1/4 odds for 2 year-olds and WFA/ set weight races unless there was an odds-on pop.

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« 2019-May-09, 12:33 PM Reply #94 »
JWH, I note on your last post on the Federal Election on the Soap Box you had the the Coalition at $5. As there are more than 8 parties standing at the election can I get on with you at those odds each way. I will even take evens they finish in the first two. :beer:

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« 2019-May-09, 12:42 PM Reply #95 »
Might have to modify my above 'advantage' post to . . one or two stand out favourites

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« 2019-May-09, 01:09 PM Reply #96 »
JWH, I note on your last post on the Federal Election on the Soap Box you had the the Coalition at $5. As there are more than 8 parties standing at the election can I get on with you at those odds each way. I will even take evens they finish in the first two. :beer:

No, because Labor is at odds-on  @ 1.15 so therefore no each-way betting at those odds.

But if you can get on with someone else deal me in.   emthup

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« 2019-May-09, 01:34 PM Reply #97 »
I'd be happy to bet each-way, 1st & 2nd . .

BUT

It would be 'below the line' . . The way Arsenal's Brisbane bookies did it

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« 2019-May-10, 10:59 AM Reply #98 »
The police at the races. No unruly race crowds in this photo.




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« 2019-May-11, 11:19 PM Reply #99 »
The view towards the then stabling area at Eagle Farm - taken from the public access grandstand above the members.

 



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