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Offline dubbledee

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O.P. « 2009-Feb-22, 10:50 AM »
It just keeps happening....  Queensland keeps producing top-line sprinters..... There are too many to list, but just a few: LA MONTAGNA, GOLD EDITION, BURDEKIN BLUES and now SWISS ACE
 
They're not from the multi-million-dollar breeding barns, but horses with bread-and-butter pedigrees in stables that don't depend on headlines and media promotions for their success.

A $6,000 purchase by Redcliffe builder Darryl Rogers and his wife Karen, the Secret Savings entire has now won 10 from 15 and around $650k in prizemoney. 

After his last campaign, the horse had a long lay-off to have bone chips removed.  But Darryl and Karen didn't waver in their belief that SA would win a Group 1 and convinced the wily Mick Mair to embark on a Melbourne campaign. 

Full marks to Mick for his training, and special mention of the fact that he stuck with his long-time mate from Caloundra, Ken Pope.  Connections received plenty of advice as to their choice of jockey, but it wasn't required.  Ken's ride was a key factor in the end result.

With Secret Savings no longer with us, I'd expect Darryl Rogers will be fielding offers from studs.

But next agenda item is the Newmarket in 2 weeks.

« Last Edit: 2009-Feb-22, 10:57 AM by dubbledee »

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« 2009-Feb-22, 10:53 AM Reply #1 »
GREAT STALLION POTENTIAL WITH SWISS ACE  8-)

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« 2009-Feb-22, 12:07 PM Reply #2 »
I thought he was gone with about 100 to go after being headed.

Good horses dig deep when needed & he did just that.

Fantastic ride by Ken Pope   emthup

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« 2009-Feb-22, 12:16 PM Reply #3 »
Great win, but I think Lucky Street Secret paddles at the end of his races which may have flattered the Star Queenslander  :what:
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« 2009-Feb-22, 12:16 PM Reply #4 »
I dunno if it was Swiss Ace finishing, or Lucky Secret weakening.  I think probably the latter.

Regardless, full marks to KP for keeping the stallion balanced and able to maintain his run to the post.

Gotta feel sorry for LS's connections.  They've had more than their share of troubles with the Rubiton 5yo.  He's a talented sprinter, but frequently finds one better.

Beaten jockey Dan Brereton must have felt gutted, having been in front until the last two strides.  He was gracious in defeat.  "He ran great but it was just unlucky secret today."

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« 2009-Feb-22, 12:56 PM Reply #5 »
Without Sounding like a sore loser(i didn't back it), lucky
Secret needs a stronger Rider, I KNOW HE has won on him
more than others but when it really counts he lays down on
Danny, therefore he needs a better jock imo

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« 2009-Feb-22, 12:56 PM Reply #6 »
Or perhaps timing the run a little better ?

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« 2009-Feb-22, 12:58 PM Reply #7 »
Great win, but I think Lucky Street paddles at the end of his races which may have flattered the Star Queenslander  :what:

  :lol:   :lol:

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« 2009-Feb-22, 01:01 PM Reply #8 »
Or perhaps timing the run a little better ?
  Good call Auth as i have seen him get beat about 3 times
in exactly the same circumstances

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« 2009-Feb-22, 07:33 PM Reply #9 »
Definitely died on his run Lucky Secret.... coming to the turn he headed Swiss Ace...but pope always kept something up his sleeve....great ride...  emthup

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« 2009-Feb-22, 07:37 PM Reply #10 »
God bless him.   :biggrin:

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« 2009-Feb-22, 07:45 PM Reply #11 »
  Change the jocks  different result

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« 2009-Feb-22, 07:50 PM Reply #12 »
Big call, Big Wheel.

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« 2009-Feb-22, 07:54 PM Reply #13 »
 Please DD  put  J Cassidy or Bowman, Brown , Oliver etc etc it wins

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« 2009-Feb-22, 07:54 PM Reply #14 »
  Change the jocks  different result

Yep, put D Oliver on Swiss Ace it gets beat   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2009-Feb-22, 07:59 PM Reply #15 »
DONT THINK SO

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« 2009-Feb-22, 07:59 PM Reply #16 »
Not sure what more (or less) Brereton could have done.  His horse was travelling within itself when he hit the lead.  SA was starting to weaken.  I'd think he took the the correct option for the last 300 of an 1100 sprint.  Any other horse on his inside apart from SA, he wins, and Brereton's being hailed for a top ride.

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« 2009-Feb-22, 08:03 PM Reply #17 »
Not the jockey's fault, I think that is a trait of the horse and any amount of flogging would not have got it home ........ more then likely it would have got beaten further  :/

Good example of this is when Swis Ace was beaten Kenny Pope put the stick and the horse still won

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« 2009-Feb-22, 08:09 PM Reply #18 »
SA wasn't weakening, Pope said in the interview that he didn't want to let it down at the top of the straight, he wanted to wait as long as possible before he got stuck into it.
Just because a horse gets overtaken doesn't necessarily mean it's gone.
Pope's right because if it had have been weakening and Lucky Secret dogged it as has been the view of many on here, wouldn't they have both been beaten by something else?
Does anyone have the last 400 sectionals for both winner and runner-up?
That'll more than likely give us a better conception.

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« 2009-Feb-22, 08:09 PM Reply #19 »
There was a "secret" to yesterday's win - known only to a few.

Swiss Ace has carried the No 9 saddlecloth 3 times: at his first start, in the Weetwood, and yesterday.

He just HAD to win. :nowink:

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« 2009-Feb-22, 08:12 PM Reply #20 »
WELL what about timing his run, the horse has been beatn 4 times
in the same circumstances.
 The bloke is far from a top jock, and thats what is the difference between winning
and losing a TOP JOCK, & DD that is my point he didn't WIN

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« 2009-Feb-22, 08:17 PM Reply #21 »
  Ol THat just about did happen Typhoon Zed who traveled 3,4,6 deep nearly pegged them back, and Please popey you were whopping the fur of it at the 350, there4 you weren't saving shit, you were just lucky the secret dogged it

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« 2009-Feb-22, 08:19 PM Reply #22 »
The leader had come across from an outside barrier, had set the pace. Brereton was entitled to make his move when he did.

How many rounded him up from behind?

Hindsight is a very useful aid for some.

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« 2009-Feb-22, 08:22 PM Reply #23 »
  Fair Enough Jwh, that is my point though mate, the bloke shit
himself as how many G1 will he win this year next year etc etc,
there4 had a Oliver etc etc been on things may of been diff,m
poor old Danny went for the LICK of HIS life, just 50 metres to soon

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« 2009-Feb-22, 08:23 PM Reply #24 »
Your right on any normal high grade horse Brereton would have been hailed an oakleigh plate winner, but i reckon in future they will be holding Lucky Secret to his final run for as long as possible.


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