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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/09/2008 2:23 PM
Some relevant posts from brisbaneracingnews.com:
 

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Comment from Bruce on brisbaneracingnews:
 
Submitted by: Bruce on: 13/09/2008

Subject: Queensland Racing Vote for Extension of Term

I understand that if the Queensland Racing Limited extension of term vote is deemed by ASIC not to have been conducted according to all the necessary governance rules, than QRL will be holding another vote on the matter.

Stakeholder groups with a vote in this matter should consult more extensively with thier members if there is another vote.

Also I would like to know how each of the candidates on the QTC and BTC who are standing for election for the Brisbane Racing Club Board voted in the last QRL vote.

Many people have strong views that QRL board members should go up for election as per their original constitutional arrangement.

We live in a democratic society where many pople are subject to constant and regular elections why should Queensland Racing Limited be any different?

I challenge the BRC candidates to declare how they voted on this matter in the last vote. I understand it is no longer a matter of board confidentiality as many peole are already know how the vote went as the information was leaked.

Not sure there's any process that can give Bruce the answers he wants.  The vote for/against the QRL changes would have been made by the BTC/QTC boards collectively, rather than by individual directors.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/09/2008 3:33 PM
Another BTC member has given firm recommendations for two of the BTC candidates:
 

Submitted by: Col Richards on: 13/09/2008

Subject: Quality BRC Candidates: Kevin Dixon and Kerrina King

I have owned and raced horses for close on 40 years winning major races in four states.

I currently own and operate Gainsborough Lodge Stud in Toowoomba together with being a Director of Brisbane Bloodstock (formerly QBBS Bloosdstock agents) for 12 years.

From my own extensive expereince I can say that it is extemely important for any organisation to have people on the Board who have strong knowledge of, and personal experience in, the industry in which the Board operates.

I note that Ms King was an attendee at the Australia 2020 Summit in realtion to the thoroughbred racing and breeding industry and has her own bloodstock business. Mr Dixon has extensive international commercial expereince at the level of Global Chief Operating Officer and owns a horse stud.

Kerrina King and Kevin Dixon are two candidates that Brisbane racing needs as they "tick all the boxes".

I recommend that you vote for DIXON AND KING.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 14/09/2008 11:51 PM
The new forum is  a slow starter, nothing too controversial  there yet ,not surprised about that.Wait till the votes are counted  and the results announced will there be weeping and gnashing of teeth or congratulations all round and everyone will live happily ever after .And Bruce makes a reasonable point I think about consultation on issues like the QRL but from experience it rarely if ever happens mainly because it's impractical.And the vote was reported as 14 in favour 1 informal so there's the answer Bruce.
Candice wants to know if females are considered for election.
Crikey !
 
This is one I like from Ray  "I would first like to say that the fact that this forum has been established is a step in the right direction and more like it are needed "
 
Q What does  he mean ? 
there should be more forums or
 
 more steps in the right direction 
 
I'm in favour of the latter.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 9:19 AM
muggins
 
Regarding representation by females on the boards of the Brisbane racing clubs (and thus potentially on BRC)...
 
QTC has been around for 145 years.  Females have been admitted as members since early 1980s.  For the past 20 years females have had the opportunity to be elected to the Committee/Board.  My memory tells me that only one has nominated, and she was successul, is on the current board, and is a candidate for BRC.
 
BTC has been around for 75 years.  Until relatively recently (mid 90s), membership was by invitation only, and members of the Committee achieved their status by co-option (by the Committee of the time).  I am not certain if females were previously barred from BTC (then BATC) membership, but possible they were. I believe there have been two females nominate for election as directors of BTC, one was successful (became Chair and subsequently resigned).
 
Members of both BTC and QTC have had opportunities to nominate for election to their respective boards (and thereby election to BRC board) on two occasions (QTC) and four occasions (BTC) in the immediate past.  I think it's fair to say that females have had no less opportunities than have males.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 11:22 AM
Newspaper ads continue to recommend a BRC vote for BTC director Kerrina King as a "proven team player" and someone who'll provide "gender representation".
 
There's the possibility of two females on the new BRC board.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 15/09/2008 6:35 PM
I believe there have been two females nominate for election as directors of BTC, one was successful (became Chair and subsequently resigned).

dd I cut this from your previous message. This has me intrigued. Shouldn't you have said two have nominated for two successes. The one that resigned and the one still in power.
Hope you guys are all holding up to the stress of elections.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 6:41 PM
Mono
 
On reflection, neither of us is right.  LOL.
 
There have been 3 females stand at BTC, two of whom have been successful.  One resigned, one remains in office and is candidate for BRC.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 15/09/2008 6:45 PM
I must admit I'm surprised that there aren't a lot more nominations when the Annual elections come around.
 
Not so much for this election coming up but the normal annual ones.
 
Just thought more members would be wanting to have a go.
 
Then again , it might be a sign of the times and a lot of people cannot be bothered, and reckon it is easier to sit back .
 
I've never been interested in this side of racing , but I thought that around 30yrs back that they would have got a lot more people to nominate.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 6:49 PM
It's also possible the members think the current boards are doing a reasonable job.  Or maybe they think the duties and obligations of directors are greater than the privileges that flow.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 15/09/2008 6:52 PM
Thanks for the history lesson Dubbles Be a sport and let Candice know
 
 Wasn't the first lady  elected  to the QTC  Miss Petersen, I think Aileen maybe was her name. I met her father a long time ago.
 
And  surprise, surprise the QTC website  has a link to the new kid on the block.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 15/09/2008 6:56 PM
Yes, you are probably right, but it is the same with most clubs these days.
 
Less and less want to step up to the mark.
 
I would like to see Phil( The Saint) Purser nominate.  He has all the knowledge apparently

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 15/09/2008 7:19 PM

Being a team player isn't all it's cracked up to be.

At first glance it sounds OK but what does it really mean.?

And  in most political contests to be re-elected you need to be part of the team ticket.

If you're on the outer you'll be on the outside looking in rather than on the inside looking out when the contest is over.

 

 


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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 7:37 PM
But wait there's more.  While mowing the course proper I realised there was at least one more female who stood for the QTC board.  So that makes it two.  I'm sure others can add to that.  LOL.
 
Muggins
 
Alayne was certainly one of the first, if not the first to be elected to QTC.  If - and that's always a big IF - my memory is turned on, she was also a "trustee" of one of the tracks.  As you'd recall, she owned the very good horse, Lord Sambeau.
 
gratlog
 
Yes, I know you'd like that.  One thing that's worth noting is that directors need to first become members.  You know, pay joining fees, annual subscriptions, etc.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 7:44 PM
Muggins, I meant to add...
 
The matter of "tickets" is probably not an issue in the current elections.  Both Clubs apparently will accept a vote for less than 4 candidates.  This means there'll be quite a few different voting patterns, comprising a vote for 1, 2, 3, or 4 candidates.  (I wouldn't offer to be Returning Officer.)
 
We've seen evidence of 3 "tickets" at BTC on the brisbaneracingnews website.  Personally, I'd question how effective any of them will be in practice. 
 
I keep my ears open at QTC and have yet to hear of any "tickets" in their poll.  Maybe people are being kind.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 15/09/2008 8:22 PM
Elections to  Boards or Committees of clubs  generally is of little interest to anyone apart from the candidates, their family, friends and supporters.BTC candidates are pretty serious though but all's quiet over the road.
It's not like they'll be running the country.In fact, the clubs I've been involved in, the majority of members don't bother to vote even though it requires little effort to mark a ballot paper stick it in an envelope write your name and number on an outer envelope and post or deliver it before the closing date.It might be different here but I wouldn't bet on it.Apathy is everywhere. 
From what I've seen, since the advent of control bodies,  race clubs have a mainly domestic focus with QRL really running the show.And it's not too surprising that members aren't falling over themselves rushing to nominate  for a place on the management body of any club even though in this case there are perks of office and the possibility of  being paid  directors fees which will be a first if it gets the green light.
I may be wrong but I thought the initial BRC board was to consist of 4 existing Directors from each club and  i'd assumed that nominations were not required from the general membershipAll I can say is I hope that the right candidates get up and that the merger is successful with no internal bickering as we saw when the dividing road was called Gaza strip .

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 9:53 PM
Muggins
 
Two comments...
 
1.  Yes, the BRC board will be made up of four directors from each of the two Brisbane race clubs.  These directors will be identified by a poll of members of the respective clubs.  Members of the existing boards were eligible te be candidates in the polls.  Seven have nominated from BTC, five from QTC.  The general membership has known of the process for two years and have had opportunities to nominate for election to the BTC and QTC boards.  Several have done that and been successful and are now in the polls for BRC board.
 
2.  With respect, I believe you are seriously underestimating the role of the soon-to-be-convened BRC board.  While BRC directors might not be charged with deciding whether the Stradbroke is WFA or handicap, they have some onerous obligations and responsibilities as directors of a public company.  The assets of BRC will total just shy of $100 million by my guess.  These assets must be managed prudently and with due regard to Corps Laws.  The Brisbane Racing Precinct consists of Qld's best racecourses and the ones where most prizemoney is dealt out.  This is much more than a local footy or golf club building a new clubhouse.  It's likely that the BRC will be engaged in contracts worth many millions.  They'll get one chance to get it right.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 15/09/2008 10:40 PM
Don't disagree with your comments dd about the responsibilities of the Board   but  imo a competent  management team is more important to running the club efficiently and the CEO is the main player. And ,for the first time that I've noticed it , the QTC annual report is on the club's site for all to see.And jolly good show too it seems.QRL has contributed significantly to the bottom line so despite the  indications of bad blood  as todays QRL release shows. they  do not appear to have  penalised the QTC. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 10:45 PM
Yes, the CEO is the paid officer....but it's the Directors - on a Board that runs that way a Board should run - who make the policy and sign the documents, and accept fiduciary responsibility, and ...

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 11:00 PM

master plan: members' meeting

The Queensland Turf Club (QTC) and Brisbane Turf Club (BTC) have entered into a Memorandum of Understanding with a Property Development Company, Watpac to develop a Master Plan to redevelop Doomben and Eagle Farm Racecourses. The objectives of the Master Plan include:

  • Utilise the whole of the QTC and BTC land;
  • Recognise the core function of Eagle Farm and Doomben land as racecourses;
  • Identify parcels of land to be sold and/ or redeveloped by QTC and BTC to provide capital to facilitate the development of the racecourses;
  • Develop the racecourses into state of the art facilities comprising race day venues, non race day venues and community facilities;
  • Provide income streams sufficient to support the ongoing management maintenance and development of the assets of QTC and BTC.

meeting details

So that the widest possible input is given to Watpac, we would like to hear what Members think is needed in each racecourse. You therefore are invited to attend a meeting, the details of which are as follows:

Date - Thursday, 18 September 2008

Time - 6:30pm

Venue - Satchel Room, Ground Floor, Doomben Racecourse

Light refreshments will be served. The Boards of both Clubs look forward to seeing all Members at this meeting


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From: muggins1936 Sent: 16/09/2008 11:55 AM
Someone should run a sweep
 
I'll go for Dixon,Milner.Tighe,Tinniswood BTC and Trivett,Dawson,Sexton,Kann QTC

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From: ShortHalfHead Sent: 16/09/2008 12:09 PM
What price can I get about a DD (Dixon - Dawson) Quinella?

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From: Geoff Sent: 16/09/2008 12:14 PM
"to which"?
 

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 16/09/2008 9:03 PM
All is peaceful all is quiet      There's no  new news on Brisbane Racing News.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/09/2008 9:22 PM
I wouldn't be outlaying any of my hard-earned on these two races.  No clear cut winners as I see it.
 
One would expect both Chair and Vice-Chair from BTC and QTC to be elected.  After that, the answer's a pineapple, IMO.
 
Would be nice if we can get at least three forumites elected.
 
Vote early, vote often.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 16/09/2008 9:48 PM
Would be nice if we can get at least three forumites elected.
 
  Gratlog ?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/09/2008 10:55 PM
muggins
 
I would bet on the fact that gratlog won't be a director of BRC - for the initial term at least.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 17/09/2008 8:33 AM
Me thinks Muggins might have a drink sometimes

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 17/09/2008 10:39 AM
Gratlog
Only if thirsty and on a hot day/night.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/09/2008 12:13 PM
Editorial from brisbaneracingnews.com.au:
 

Queensland Racing Limited (QRL) has become a topic of hot debate in the current Brisbane Racing Club elections.


Since the start of the elections there has been considerable interest in exactly how directors at both clubs voted in relation to the QRL extension of term vote. Members have indicated that the topic will be one  which could be raised for consideration at the AGM.


Matters hotted up even further today when  Mr Bentley emailed a letter to a large data base of people including many club members who are  currently making their decisions on which directors to elect to the new BRC Board. 


His Honour W.C. Carter QC and the QTC would seem to be particularly unpopular with Mr Bentley.  He comments that "Under normal circumstances, a control body would not normally comment on a letter sent to race club members." However, obviously, if one follows the logic, then these are not normal circumstances because Mr Bentley does go on to comment on His Honour ’s letter.


Mr Bentley quotes  Commissioners Daubney and Rafter (2006)  as identifying factional interests in the racing industry. Clearly,  there are still factions in the racing industry.


In this current election for the BTC Directors to go forward to the BRC, you might at first glance, think  that the factions  are reflected in the two tickets put out respectively by Mr Wanless and His Honour until you note that of each of the four men on the two tickets, two men appear on both tickets.


What can be made of this is anyone’s guess. And as for Ms King who is on neither ticket does this make her a true independent?

Vince Pennisi

16/9/2008 


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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/09/2008 3:50 PM
BTC Chair Wayne Milner won the first today with Chelle's Alibi.
 
BTC Vice-Chair Kevin Dixon won the second with first-starter Bonne Affaire.
 
Shame the green was scratched from the last.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 17/09/2008 8:51 PM
Crikey!
 
Make up your mind Vince, one minute she's a team player now she's an independent.
 
Like all the others she's dependent on getting a quota otherwise she'll really be independent.
 
No doubt where Lindsay's loyalties lie Never was never will be and no surprise about that imo.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 18/09/2008 12:22 AM
WARNING BELLS are ringing,  recent post on the new web site hopes for community consultation on any proposed redevelopments at EF and Doomben which will be mandatory .Interesting that Milton redevelopment will have special legislative protection for XXXX Brewery so residents cannot complain about the smells
Stand by for objections and lengthy battles before the vision takes shape. 

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From: NineMSN NicknameThenamy1 Sent: 18/09/2008 12:47 AM
Muggins, the redevelopment is going to be a cracker of a battle. You will recall that when it was proposed that Doomben was going to be sold there were many there was oppositon from racing folk as well as local residents. Those 2 groups are now on opposite sides of the fence.
 
I remember at the Hamilton Town Hall meeting,  Mr Nicholls spruiking on about traffic on Nudgee Rd and green space. Well those issue will be back on the agenda ... I wonder which way Mr Nicholls will lean ?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamefatprawn Sent: 18/09/2008 1:50 PM
 
There are a lot of opinions on the make-up of the new B.R.C. but like many decisions on matters of importance in the industry bentley will have a large imput by trying to get as many of his mates appointed as possible.
Does any one else have the right to be there?

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 18/09/2008 7:12 PM
from the BRN web site Grant writes,
 
"As a relative newcomer to Queensland having moved here from Sydney 5 years ago, I'm not that well versed with the politics associated with the QTC and the BTC.

But I'm pleased the BRC is moving forward so racing can progress in Queensland and leave the past behind.

But one thing I have been curious about for some time now is why hasn’t Bill Carter stood as a director for either of the clubs in the past as he is outspoken on most issues?"

 

I was thinking the same thing.




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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/09/2008 11:08 PM
Bill Carter did run for a position on the QTC Committee many years ago.  He was narrowly defeated.  At the time he was a QC, and frequently appeared before he QTC representing licensees.  Many cases were controversial and I would suspect he'd not have had a lot of fans on the then QTC Committee.
 
My guess is that when Bill Carter became a Supreme Court judge he would have thought improper to take a seat on a race club Board.
 
From a non-executive position of race club member and owner, he was able to play a totally different role than he might have had he been a director.  How lucky we are. Without Bill Carter:
 
1.  We'd be going to Wacol on a Saturday.
 
2.  We'd have seen Doomben wrecked.
 
If ever there's a statue erected on a Brisbane racecourse it should be of Bill Carter.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 18/09/2008 11:56 PM
That's very interesting dubbles, I learn something every day.
There have been a couple of  serving Judges on race clubs Sir Edward Williams and Edmund Broad are two I know of. but  I'd go along with your guess on this one as the reason he didn't seek election. That was then, this is now, so maybe in the future he'll have another go.
Wacol was a crazy idea would never have got off the ground and selling Doomben leaving only EF was another unsupportable idea  .
If they do put up a statue better ban the pidgeons.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/09/2008 1:04 AM
muggins
 
Apart from the judicial appointment, I expect Bill Carter's view would have been "I've tried once, and that's it".  Though Bill Carter would romp in if he stood for a vacancy on the new BRC - should one arise - I very much doubt that he'd be a runner.  Bill is involved in many unpaid activities in support of the disadvantaged in our Society and would not want to walk away from them.
 
I think it was Prawn who posted elsewhere that Bill is a hugely popular figure on Brisbane racecourses.
 
And in case you think I'm Bill Carter's right hand man (or vice versa) let me assure you that ain't the situation.  When I tossed my hat in the ring for a racing board vacancy a few years back can you guess who nominated someone else to stand against me?

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 19/09/2008 10:22 AM

Crikey! Dubbles you could take up mind reading on that effort , that's exactly what I was thinking.But no harm done either way.You've kissed and made up long ago I imagine.

And just as well too,we have enough trouble keeping up with the Bill & Bob show and now there's Bart & Obi.It's standing room only at the moment.

It's obvious Bill has lots of supporters and no doubt has many good qualities. He's not backward in coming forward and standing up for what he believes in and he deserves credit for that.That's a quality which I admire greatly although I should say I don't necessarily agree with all his opinions or on occasions his timing.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/09/2008 10:29 AM
LOL, muggins.
 
No kissing between us.  We have robust debates on lots of matters.  It wouldn't surprise you that he gets it wrong on occasions when he doesn't agree with me.  But he backs my tips, so I get square that way.
 
But if I was fighting in the trenches I'd want Bill Carter with me.

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From: Ascot Sent: 22/09/2008 8:01 AM
Monday 22 September is D day for Directors of the new BRC.  The votes are in except for what the postman brings this morning.  I can now reveal the betting market "insiders" have been spruiking:
 
Remember there are 4 vacant positions to be filled from BTC and another 4 from QTC for a total of 8.  This market is for the chances of each individual making the respective cut.
 
BTC: to secure one of the 4 positions
Kevin Dixon              $1.10
Kerrina King             $100
Wayne Millner           $2.50
Wayne Purchase        $5 
Peter Tighe                $1.90
Ross Tinniswood       $5
PaulWilliams              $1.01 
 
QTC: to secure one of the 4 positions
Mary Lee Trivett        $1.90
David Dawson            $1.01
Neville Bell                 $2.10
Bill Sexton                  $1.01
Eddie Kahn                $1.01 
 
Good luck to all involved. 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 22/09/2008 8:30 AM
I'm hoping they have it wrong at the BTC.
 
Good luck Ross.
 
Also hope they have it right over the road to see DD get up.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/09/2008 9:10 AM
Hmmm, ok.  Thanks for posting Ascot.
 
I found the both races pretty difficult.  As I mentioned earlier, it should happen that both Chair and Vice-Chair get up in both cases.
 
While I went crazy trying to form a market for the 4 spots, I came up with these markets for the candidate to TOP the poll.  (I'm presuming numbers will be revealed by both Clubs.  If not, all bets are declared off.)
 
BTC Directors
 
5/4 Paul Williams
9/4 Wayne Milner
8/1 Kevin Dixon, Peter Tighe
20/1 Wayne Purchase
100/1 Kerrina King
1,000,000,0000,000/1 Ross Tinniswood
 
QTC Directors
 
4/7 Bill Sexton
7/4 Eddie Kann
100/1 Mary Lee Trivett, Neville Bell
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000/1 David Dawson
 
(Thanks for the good wishes, gratlog)
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/09/2008 10:49 AM
Oh dear.  Someone's pride has been hurt.  I'd best adjust the BTC market.
 
BTC Directors
 
5/4 Paul Williams
9/4 Wayne Milner
8/1 Kevin Dixon, Peter Tighe
20/1 Wayne Purchase
100/1 Kerrina King
1,000,000,000/1 Ross Tinniswood

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 22/09/2008 11:19 AM
Not long to go now.And it's not the end of the world for those who don't make the cut.
 
 
ARP reports from Brisvegas
Already a crowd is gathering ouside the offices where the count is to be held.
Radio 4TAB is there, as is the SKY outside broadcast van with Andrew Bensley aboard.Several cars with darkened windows are in the vicinity ,all that can be seen are shadowey figures wearing grey overcoats and dark glasses reflections from their video recorder lights.A group of ladies wearing identical hats are quietly conversing among themselves, attracting appreciative glances from  passing public servants. On the opposite side of the street stands a group of undercover operatives, believed to be observers from QRL, surreptiously taking photos and making notes.Once the candidates and scrutineers arrive police are expected to cordon off the area to avoid the successful candidates being swamped by bobby soxers seeking autographs.
Meanwhile celebrity agent Max Maxson is trying to steal a march on arch rival Harry M Spiller for the rights to the losers' tell all storys.
Be watching A Current Affair and Australian Story for the ending,happy for some and not so for others.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/09/2008 11:26 AM
Very amusing words from someone who's been around for a while.
 
I think it's more likely it'll be the end of world for those who DO make the cut.  LOL.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGrega9430 Sent: 22/09/2008 6:54 PM
Is the counting over?

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 22/09/2008 7:23 PM
Cripes, This is nail biting stuff .The tension is electric ,not another sleepless night .
 
The count should be well and truly over.
 
Tomorrow is DDay.
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/09/2008 7:25 PM
If anyone gets results please post them for us all to see.

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From: Ascot Sent: 22/09/2008 11:34 PM
BTC Result reflects Ascot's market at Post 48.
 
QTC result pending.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 23/09/2008 8:18 AM
A mixed result for the forum crew.

Congratulations go out to dd and commiserations to Ascot and Meynink

I'm sure the ones that missed out will initially be disappointed but life goes on and in fact they may even get their lives back again now this this is all over . Let's hope the newly elected BRC directors will move on in "peace and harmony" and look after the industry as a whole(not hole)as well as it's voting members.

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From: Ascot Sent: 23/09/2008 9:10 AM
Thanks Mono.  Was about what I expected so I can't complain.  My task was to help effect the merger  and destroy forever the Gaza strip mentality that has held Bris racing back for sooooo long. 
 
I am pretty chuffed that a team of us achieved that after two years of absolute nonsense. 
 
This is a really good, strong Board that is forming.  I am excited. A perfect mix of industry, club, commercial, financial, owner and breeding interests without any dominant lobby group. And no loafers among em either.  If QRL cannot get along with that bunch, it won't the BRC's fault.
 
As for me & Meynink, well we are still on the BTC for a year or so until the BRC takes over the reins.  Plenty of work still to do there to have it looking shiny and detailed for the new owners.
 
Onwards and upwards now.  Yippeeeeee!!

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From: NineMSN NicknameGrega9430 Sent: 23/09/2008 10:19 AM
Well done Gentlemen and congratulations to DD, all the best with the future BRC.

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From: NineMSN Nicknameceedeecee Sent: 23/09/2008 10:35 AM
May I suggest one of the first things that the new board look into is the lack of walking facilities for horses being stabled raceday at Eagle Farm. Because the stablehands and trainers are forced to walk their horses on the road where the floats are loading/off-loading it creates a dangerous situation.
 

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 23/09/2008 11:02 AM
Bart opened the envelope for us  in the CM today with the full list of electees,but no details of voting figures.Maybe that'll come later. 
 
Ticks to Williams,Dixon,Tighe & Milner for the BTC
 
and Bell,Dawson,Kann & Sexton  QTC.
 
No sign of either lady finishing amongst the also rans.A good colt will generally beat a good filly so I've heard.
 
Well Done Dubbles and commiserations to Ascot and others.
 
No doubt Bob will be on the ball early firing off messages of good will to all concerned, after all he had a significant input into the birth of this little body. 

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 23/09/2008 11:21 AM

23rd September 2008

For Immediate Release

Brisbane Racing Club Board Appointed

The Brisbane Turf Club (BTC) and Queensland Turf Club (QTC) today announced the

appointment of the new Board of Directors of the Brisbane Racing Club (BRC).

In another step towards completing the merger of the BTC and QTC, a poll of the Members of

each Club was held yesterday to elect the eight Founding Directors for the BRC.

The new BRC Board consists of four Founding Directors from each of the BTC and QTC. The

four BTC Founding Directors appointed are Kevin Dixon, Wayne Milner, Peter Tighe and PaulWilliams with the QTC selecting David Dawson, Neville Bell, Bill Sexton and Eddie Kann to theBRC Board.

The new BRC Board will meet in the near future to commence planning for the new Club andelect a Chairman.

Various conditions such as approvals from the ACCC, Australian Taxation Office, the QueenslandGovernment and Queensland Racing Ltd have to be met before the merger is finalized. The BRC

Board will now be working very closely with both the BTC and QTC towards achieving theseconditions.

It is anticipated the Brisbane Racing Club will be operational as at 1st July 2009.

***ENDS***

Media Contacts:

Malcolm Holmes Stephen Ferguson -

BTC Chief Executive Officer QTC Chief Executive Officer

P: (07) 3268 6800 P: (07) 3268 2171

E: mholmes@doomben.com E: sferguson@qtc.org


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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/09/2008 12:44 PM
Thanks for the good wishes, guys.  Much appreciated.
 
Disappointing that our forum won't have additional reps on the Board.  Hopefully there'll be opportunities in the future for Ascot and meynink to contribute to BRC.  Race club boards need people who know what racing's all about.  If nothing else, I can expect to be told when something's not right.
 
One thing about Ascot, he's got a huge future as a bookie.  His posted market on the BTC voting in particular was amazingly accurate.  I'd have to suggest he'd already counted the votes before he framed the market.
 
It goes without saying that there a busy and challenging times ahead for all involved.  Let's hope in a few years we're looking at TWO racetracks that meet the needs of every segment of the industry.
 
(ceedeecee...re your comment, I would suggest you put your thoughts in writing to CEO of QTC.)

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From: Ascot Sent: 24/09/2008 9:32 AM
Things are strangely quiet on the new website www.brisbaneracingnews.com
 
They havn't even posted the election result yet, let alone congratulate the winners.  In fact there has been no news posted there for 5 days.  Hmmmmmm.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 24/09/2008 9:51 AM

Quiet silent actually and nothing on the QRL site either apart from reproducing the joint press release.I fully expected some announcement from Bob, after all he's entitled to share in the glory, having been the main sponsor of the BRC.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 24/09/2008 9:47 PM
The voting %'s looks like being a closed shop. I always enjoy the stats from these polling days. Things like "how many voted" what percentage of votes did all candidates receive.
Surely after taking the time to read through the sent out literature and reading all candidates auto biographies we are entitled to know how our vote counted in the scheme of things.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 25/09/2008 12:29 AM
Mono
Not very likely that the individual votes will be released publicly but the total number of votes cast should  be.Probably wouldn't be more than a 60% turn out .ACCC might tell if asked nicely once the papers are in.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/09/2008 12:39 AM
Muggins
 
As I understand it, ACCC couldn't give a hoot on this topic.  The respective boards resolved to conduct a poll of members, nothing more, nothing less.  It's no different really, to asking members to say if they prefer ham or turkey in the carvery.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 25/09/2008 12:46 AM

Just going on what QRL said Dubbles that  ACCC and ASIC have to tick the amalgamated body and if so  I expect evidence of compliance with the constitution would be a pre-requisite.That should include votes cast for the board .Only Mono and me appear interested,you could  help us out if you know  


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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/09/2008 12:53 AM
Muggins
 
The Merger Implementation Deed required both Clubs to identify 4 current directors to be go forward to the BRC board.
 
The process is specified neither in the MID nor in either Club's constitution.
 
The respective boards could have drawn them by lot, for example - but chose (rightly) to let the members decide.
 
Whether or not the counts are provided to members is a matter for the respective Clubs.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/09/2008 10:50 PM
The Brisbane Turf Club held its AGM today.
 
Chairman Wayne Milner outlined the difficulties Doomben had faced in the year of EI.  Milner paid tribute to the club's supporters and employees, many of whom had taken annual leave during the racing shutdown or had accepted redeployment in other areas of BTC operation.  The Chairman re-iterated the challenges in attracting punters back to the racetrack post-EI, and painted a bleak picture if the Club was to continuing operating alone.  (Wayne Milner has been pro-merger since the idea was first mooted.)
 
Milner also acknowledged that the protracted Merger vote and other contentious elections for BTC board positions had caused divisions in the Club and damaged friendships.  Milner suggested that members bury their differences and work together to ensure the success of BRC.
 
But judging by the body language of one (unsuccessful) candidate in the BRC directors' vote I'll be getting one less Christmas card this year.  And I voted for the candidate in the every election the candidate has contested.  Oh well......

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From: Ascot Sent: 26/09/2008 12:01 AM
DD, twas probably a deodorant / aftershave issue.  Suggest you finally abandon the Brut label you have been wearing since a teenager and start using one of those brands they give you in Qantas Club.  

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 26/09/2008 10:54 AM

Call for unity goes out

Article from: The Courier-Mail

Bart Sinclair

September 26, 2008 12:00am

BRISBANE Turf Club chairman Wayne Milner yesterday urged his members to "build some bridges" in relationships with other members in the aftermath of the heated merger debate.

Milner told the annual general meeting the BTC had reported a $1.1 million operating loss in a horrendous year when equine influenza and the proposed merger with Queensland Turf Club had caused some friction within the club.

"Our membership numbers are down about 150 and it's obvious some friendships have been broken. I'd urge you all to put out a hand and see if we can entice some people back to the track," Milner said.

Treasurer Wayne Purchase said the club had managed to come through the EI shutdown "reasonably unscathed" with about a $130,000 total loss.

"But we were fortunate to have the co-operation of a lot of staff who took voluntary leave entitlements in the EI crisis," Purchase said.

"A big factor in our annual result was a $561,000 loss crystallised by the decision by the previous board to liquidate a share portfolio.

"The club had expenses of $450,000 in relation to the merger votes. Two thirds of that was in legal costs."

The BTC has cash reserves of more than $7 million but more than $3 million of that has been earmarked for expenditure on workplace, health and safety issues at Doomben.


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From: NineMSN NicknameGrega9430 Sent: 26/09/2008 11:56 AM
 
Good decision by the previous Board to liquidate the share portfolio, I wonder what the booked loss would have been now if they had not. The way the treasurer is quoted intimates that it was a bad decision by the previous board.
 
They might have booked a loss last year but I don't imagine that their share investments over the past few years made a net loss, does anyone know?
 
In any case for this board to take the reins of a Club with cash reserves of $7M and then bag the previous board is a great way to "build some bridges".

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/09/2008 12:21 PM
Grega
 
Members were informed at yesterday's AGM that an review by an independent investment analysis had revealed that the Club would have been $60,000 better off had the Club's funds been invested in term desposits versus equities (over the period when the Club was exposed to equities).  Bit like the tortoise and the hare.
 
But, yes, things would have been much worse had the (current) board not abandoned equities early this year.
 
Of course it was pity they didn't get out in November - but that applies to many of us.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/09/2008 12:25 PM
muggins
 
Re your highlighted:
 
The club had expenses of $450,000 in relation to the merger votes. Two thirds of that was in legal costs."
 
Both QTC and BTC agreed to compensate QRL with $175,000 (each Club) for "legal and other expenses" incurred by QRL in the lead-up to the merger.  BTC had two votes on the merger.  QTC's cost for the merger expenses (direct) were $278,000 from memory.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGrega9430 Sent: 26/09/2008 1:35 PM
But, yes, things would have been much worse had the (current) board not abandoned equities early this year
 
DD, the Treasurer is quoted as saying "a $561,000 loss crystallised by the decision by the previous board " - was it in fact the current board? If it was, they are then bagging the previous board for what was a good decision anyway, but one made by the current board .

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/09/2008 1:47 PM
Grega
 
What you're saying above is correct....What I was trying to say - albeit ambiguously - was that the current board made a firm decision to stay away from equities, and that BTC is better off because they did.
 
One day I'll draw up a spreadsheet to show all the changes in BTC board over the last couple of years.
 
That boring mob at EF just hang around for ever.

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From: Ascot Sent: 26/09/2008 10:30 PM
I note the Brisbane Racing News website, much advertised in the newspaper leading up to the BRC elections is now dead as a dodo.  They havn't even posted the election results yet. 

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From: Ascot Sent: 26/09/2008 10:40 PM
Unsuccessful BRC Director candidate drowned his sorrow last weekend at Rosehill.  See if you can fund him at:
 
 
Just click on Gallery

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From: Ascot Sent: 26/09/2008 10:45 PM
find, not fund!!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/09/2008 10:51 PM
I'd much prefer to see ya with ya companions at EF.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 28/09/2008 10:58 AM
Might have to start up a new thread titled QRL V race club committees.

Bentley Condemns His Critics
Saturday, 27 September 2008: The unrest and back biting that is disrupting Queensland racing has reached a new high with QR chairman Bob Bentley issuing a scathing attack on his opponents.

In an unprecedented move by a racing industry leader, Bentley has issued an official press release declaring he had no intention of resigning and labeling his race club critics as “self serving dinosaurs”.

'The spreading of rumours and constant conflict by a small minority of self serving dinosaurs demonstrates little regard for the hard working and loyal staff of QRL,” Bentley said.

“I will not be resigning, retiring to the back bench or standing down.

Bentley said a recent vote by stakeholders confirmed approval for a change to the QRL constitution to allow the existing Board to complete a full term by an 87 per cent majority.

“This should send a signal and a clear message to those that continue to agitate for a return to a representative club control model that can only benefit a select minority,” Bentley said.

“The representative race club control model has been tried and failed and in doing so paralysed the industry for 10 years through conflict of interest and marginalised decisions.

“The race club representative model is current in the country racing council composition and is responsible for the current inaction and conflict of interest in decision making.”

Bentley said QRL was granted a control body licence to administer the thoroughbred code in Queensland for a period of six years concluding in 2012.

“QRL does not operate as a gentleman's club and will continue to manage the industry for the benefit of stakeholders not the committees of race clubs,” Bentley said.

“The Board by any reasonable measure has advanced the industry significantly during it's' term of office and will continue to build on the changes that have been implemented and further changes that are required to sustain the dynamics of the industry.”


courtesy of Racing and Sports.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGrega9430 Sent: 28/09/2008 1:31 PM
'The spreading of rumours and constant conflict by a small minority of self serving dinosaurs demonstrates little regard for the hard working and loyal staff of QRL,” Bentley said.
And then he proceeds to show little regard for the hard working and loyal staff of Raceclubs.
 
What an idiot.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 29/09/2008 9:29 AM
Interesting wine after the event in the Sun Herald yesterday. After spending tens of thousands on radio, newspaper and website advertising maybe many members just didn't think she was up for the job, regardless of gender?
 
c/ Sun Herald
 
Racing's battle of the sexes
 

Racing may be the sport of kings, but in Brisbane last week it was also a nest of vipers.

The election of an all-male board to the newly-formed Brisbane Racing Club has triggered claims of chauvinism, backstabbing and duplicitous behaviour.

Members of the Brisbane Turf Club at Doomben and the Queensland Turf Club at Eagle Farm voted on Monday to elect eight directors to the amalgamated BRC board.

Four men each from the QTC and the BTC were elected but the two female directors  one from each club  were unsuccessful.

Kerrina King was considered highly qualified for the position: she was a Brisbane Turf Club director,  runs her own bloodstock business and is executive secretary of the Thoroughbred Breeders Queensland Association.

Her company, Kings Bloodstock, sponsored Race 7 at Doomben yesterday.   She was invited to Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's 2020 Summit in April to put forward her ideas for the future of thoroughbred racing and breeding in Australia.

Ms King said she suspected there was a belief among some influential male members of the two clubs that the job was too difficult for a woman.

''I have a serious concern that there was a concerted effort not to have a woman on the new board,'' she said.

She said she was shocked and disappointed that two how-to-vote letters recommended only men for the new board.

The author of one letter, Queensland Turf Club member and racehorse owner Ron Wanless, said he recommended the men because he knew them and was unaware any women, including QTC director Mary-Lee Trivett, were running.

''If I'd known she was running I would have voted for her because I know her and I think she'd do a good job,'' he said. ``I have plenty of women working for me and I don't have any problem with women on boards.''

Retired Queen's Counsel Bill Carter, who wrote the other letter, said he recommended the men because he thought they would be the best for the job. He denied his choice had anything to do with gender.

''In fact, I voted for Mary-Lee Trivett,'' he said.

In his letter, he expressed his ``overriding concern that the BRC move forward positively, productively and with unity, so that QR [Queensland Racing] and its directors will understand that the members of this club are sick and tired of disunity and division and of QR decision-making which is seen to be influenced, rightly or wrongly, by personal rivalries or long-standing friendships''.

Ms King said Mr Carter had supported her in her attempt to win her BTC directorship and thought he was supporting her for the BRC. ''I was extremely shocked when I saw [Bill Carter's] letter and that he wasn't recommending me,'' Ms King said.

''Some members have told me that they were told not to vote for me and not because I hadn't done a good job [as BTC director],'' she said.

But Mr Carter said he had not given Ms King any assurances of his support for her tilt at the BRC board.

''If she's misinterpreted what I said, that's her problem.''

BTC chairman Wayne Milner said he was disappointed there were  no women on the new board.

''I think Brisbane racing has missed a great opportunity,'' he said. ''But I don't think there was a concerted effort to keep women off the board.''

Ms Trivett said: ''Many QTC men said they were sorry I wasn't elected but I don't believe it was a gender issue.''

Dale Olsson, a member of both clubs and owner of Brisbane millinery The Hat Box, said she was ''outraged'' by the how-to-vote letters.

''QTC has always been an old boys' club and I believe there was a lot of skulduggery involved in the vote,'' she said. ''Kerrina worked long and tirelessly and there was definitely connivance to keep her from being elected.''

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 29/09/2008 10:04 AM

 

''I have a serious concern that there was a concerted effort not to have a woman on the new board,'' she said. KK 

Right On Lady

 ''But I don't think there was a concerted effort to keep women off the board.'' WM

They can't both be right

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/09/2008 1:08 PM
I hang around the tracks a bit and have to say I am unaware of ANY effort by ANYONE to maintain either BTC, QTC or BRC boards as a male enclave.  Personally, I voted for both females in the recent BRC elections, and have voted for several in earlier board elections.
 
While it's true that Ms King campaigned aggressively, it wasn't that which captured my vote.  It apparently hasn't captured enough of the other members, either.  Perhaps it's relevant that none of the other 6 (male) BTC directors who were shooting for the BRC campaigned in the media.
 
It must have been a terrible disappointment for the Sun Herald journo that Mary Lee Trivett merely said "I believe I got beaten because I didn't get enough votes".  Full credit to MLT for not crying "foul".  Imagine the belting the QTC would have received then!!!
 
And what a pity that the SH journo didn't include some FACTS.  I'd bet my super balance (what's left) that the journo WAS told:
 
1. Women have had the opportunity to join the Boards of BTC and QTC for about 20 years (i.e. almost 50 elections).
 
2. Of several hundred women eligible, just 5 have chosen to nominate.
 
3.  Of these five, 3 were successful.
 
4. Of these three, 1 attained the position of Chair (of BTC).
 
So what's the requirement?  Equal opportunity, or reserve half the number of spots on the board/s for women?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/09/2008 1:43 PM

Dale Olsson, a member of both clubs and owner of Brisbane millinery The Hat Box, said she was ''outraged'' by the how-to-vote letters.

''QTC has always been an old boys' club and I believe there was a lot of skulduggery involved in the vote,'' she said. ''Kerrina worked long and tirelessly and there was definitely connivance to keep her from being elected.''

Hmmm...strong words in the SH article.  Wonder what the "skulduggery" was?  Dead people voting, some votes being thrown in the bin, some members voting more than once????  Will be interesting to hear more from Ms Olsson.

Time the QTC tossed out those "old boys", too.  Tell 'em to piss off and play bowls on Saturday afternoon.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 1/10/2008 12:47 PM
From: Ascot Sent: 9/26/2008 8:30 PM
I note the Brisbane Racing News website, much advertised in the newspaper leading up to the BRC elections is now dead as a dodo.  They havn't even posted the election results yet. 

As noted by Ascot, no activity on BRN since the election results announced.

Shame, Brisbane Racing needs a website to put out information that's at least bordering on sensible and not tinged with hatred and hidden agendas.  The fact it's not trying to sell shit tips would be another BIG plus.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/10/2008 6:19 PM

9th October 2008

Brisbane Racing Club Chairman Appointed

The Brisbane Racing Club (BRC) today announced that Mr. Kevin Dixon had been unanimouslyappointed as Chairman.

The Board of Directors of the BRC met for the first time today.

The BRC Board consists of four Founding Directors from each of the Brisbane Turf Club Ltd and (BTC) and Queensland turf Club Ltd (QTC).

The four BTC Founding Directors are Kevin Dixon, Wayne Milner, Peter Tighe and Paul Williams with the QTC Directors being David Dawson, Neville Bell, Bill Sexton and Eddie Kann.

Mr. Dixon today said, “The new Board has a lot of work ahead with the most important objective being the creation of a master plan to redevelop Doomben and Eagle Farm Racecourses.”

“I look forward to working with Queensland Racing Ltd, Club Members and all other stakeholders to deliver a vibrant racing precinct in Brisbane,” said Mr. Dixon.

“I also wish to recognise the efforts of BTC Chairman Wayne Milner and QTC Chairman Bill Sexton in getting the Clubs to this point.”

The Board resolved that in the absence of the Club Chairman, the Chairman of the Governance and Finance Sub Committee would act as Chairman.

Mr. Eddie Kann was elected as Chairman of the Governance and Finance Sub Committee.

Mr. Paul Williams was elected as Chairman of the Merger Implementation and Master Planning Sub Committee.

Applications for the role of Chief Executive will be invited shortly.

The intention is that the new Club will commence operations as from 1 July 2009.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/10/2008 6:59 PM
BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon is sponsoring the first at EF on Saturday via his stud farm, Racetree.
 
He'll no doubt be trying to win it with handy filly Seesawing.

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From: Ascot Sent: 9/10/2008 9:54 PM
I have to say I am seriously disappointed in that BrisbaneRacingNews website.  No activity now for almost a month, yet it was launched with newspaper adverts and immense interest....then zilch, zippo, nothing.  No post on the BRC news today and am still waiting to see the BRC directors election announced there.
 
0/10 for news and purpose from me.  Could well be lemon of the year. 

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 12/10/2008 8:35 PM
Ascot 
 
Anyone who is disappointed has a remedy, make a contribution, preferably something controversial and breath some life into the comatose body .

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/11/2008 9:18 AM
BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon reportedly is in favour of in-field stables at Eagle Farm, having recently seen the facilities at Fuchu, Tokyo.
 
From today's The Courier-Mail:
 
Tokyo racecourse in Japan inspires Eagle Farm

By Bart Sinclair

November 16, 2008 11:00pm

THOSE responsible for the long-awaited redevelopment of Eagle Farm can draw inspiration from the world-class facilities at Tokyo racecourse

Some who have experienced racing at the track might double up with laughter at this.
The cost alone of the main grandstand, which was opened last year after a seven-year staged building program, runs to hundreds of millions of dollars.

Eight days ago, more than 60,000 people attended a meeting in Fuchu without a hint of crowding, which is not a surprise as the attendance record is 196,000.

The funds available for the renovation of Eagle Farm are not even remotely close to those behind the magnitude of the facilities at Fuchu.

However some of the concept can be replicated on a vastly scaled down size.

Kevin Dixon, the chairman of the Brisbane Racing Club that is the product of the merger of the two metropolitan race clubs, said it was important the new entity got the planning right to make the most of the resources that would become available.

"It's apparent in Japan they are obviously acutely aware of the need to make productive use of every square metre of space on the racecourse," said Dixon, who attended last week's Asian Racing Conference in Tokyo.

"I was particularly interested in how Japanese racing has utilised the infield space of their major racecourses.

"They have used their expertise to install facilities to make the best use of that area.

"And that has opened up opportunities in other sections of the course.

"It's exactly what we are looking for from the redevelopment of both Eagle Farm and Doomben.

"At Eagle Farm our model will be slightly different with oncourse stabling infield.

"But placing the stables there allows for more commercial use of the land where they are currently housed.

"It's all about generating more income to provide the best facilities for the racegoer. It's a win-win situation for racing.

"We have identified an extra 14,000 square metres of land to generate revenue.

"The building infield at Fuchu is not intrusive.

"The viewing areas from the stand work well in conjunction with a permanent screen infield."

The open-floor plan private box system works well at Fuchu.

A similar innovation will be considered for corporate facilities at Eagle Farm and Doomben.

The eight-level Tokyo grandstand is known as the Fuji View Stand and racegoers have a commanding view of Mt Fuji.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 17/11/2008 10:29 AM
Crikey! Someone's not listening .Bob is on record as refusing to approve stabling centrefield at EF .An interesting piece from The Chairman's Desk column in QR magazine

"The development of Palm Meadows can be achieved, but as with all

significant developments, the financial model is integral. The current

market value of the Bundall site has dropped considerably since the

initial feasibility study in 2006. This decrease in value has placed

considerable strain on the financial model.

Notwithstanding that we have several reports still outstanding and

the Control Body will be in a position to make a decision regarding

Palm Meadows early in November, it is less likely that the project will

proceed given the current global financial situation.

Having said all of this, stakeholders should clearly be on a notice

that the Control Body is determined to continue to move towards

establishing a first-class racing facility in South East Queensland. It is

something that we do not have at the moment and, in my view, it is

something that the industry deserves."


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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/11/2008 11:23 AM
There's no doubt someone's not listening.  The voices of dozens of trainers are getting louder, too.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/17/2008 7:18 AM
BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon reportedly is in favour of in-field stables at Eagle Farm, having recently seen the facilities at Fuchu, Tokyo.
 
Does this suggest that there are infield stables at Fuchu?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/11/2008 12:48 PM
I'm sure you know the answer, SW...but certainly some of the major tracks have infield stables.

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The strappers and some trainers use bicycles to get around the underground tunnel system that goes from stables(not inside track) to the parade ring.

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From: NineMSN NicknameThenamy1 Sent: 17/11/2008 1:27 PM
I understand that there are some issues with the Council not wanting any horses stabled in the area. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/11/2008 1:34 PM
They're already living at EF and have been in Hendra for 150 years.

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From Stallions Daily Bulletin

Infield stabling for Eagle Farm

According to Brisbane Racing Club chairman Kevin Dixon the development plans for Eagle Farm racecourse include the use of the infield area for stabling.


“By constructing stables in the centre we will be able to use the land where the horses are currently housed for more commercial use,” Dixon says.


“It’s all about generating more income to provide the best facilities for the racegoer.
“It’s a win-win situation for racing.


“We have identified an extra 14,000 square metres of land to generate additional revenue.


“We are also considering developing an open-floor plan for private boxes and corporate facilities at both Eagle Farm and Doomben.”

Dixonadded that it was “important” that the B.R.C. – the product of the merger between the Queensland Turf Club and the Brisbane Turf Club – made the right decisions to capitalise on the benefits resulting from the establishment of the new entity.

- Graeme Kelly


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« 2008-Dec-24, 08:09 PM Reply #8 »
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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/11/2008 7:05 PM
Anyone going badly on the punt and in need of a job?
 
 
 
 

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From: MagiC** Sent: 29/11/2008 9:24 PM
I heard Bob Bentley was applying for the position.

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In a wide-reaching interview with Tony Clements on 4TAB this morning, Bob Bentley indicated a changed attitude to in-field stables at Eagle Farm.
 
Good sense, IMO.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/12/2008 2:19 PM
BTC/BRC director Paul Williams and wife Jill look happy after mare Dream Gal who they part-own won at EF recently.
 
OUTGUNNED OPPOSITION
 
Photo by Graham Potter.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/12/2008 4:45 PM
Paul Williams also part-owns another Baldwin-trained mare in CENTINELLE.
 
She's had a littany of problems, and doesn't get much luck in her races.  One day she won at Royal Ipswich paying $50 plus.
 
She's a chance in the next from the white box, and is fair odds.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/12/2008 10:22 AM
Today's C-M reports that current QTC CEO Stephen Ferguson has been appointed inaugural CEO of BRC from a field of 60 applicants.
 
I think Stephen's in for a busy time.

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« 2009-Jan-09, 07:56 PM Reply #9 »
Management....maybe move this to Qld Gallops?

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« 2009-Jan-12, 11:39 AM Reply #10 »
Two Saturday meetings coming up at Eagle Farm on 17th and 24th.

QTC is offering a two-for-one promo to those on their email list.  For price of one entry, two persons get in.

As well, anyone holding a ticket for Queensland Roar games on those dates will be granted free admission to Eagle Farm.

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« 2009-Jan-27, 10:59 AM Reply #11 »
Brisbane Racing Club Announces Chief Operations Officer

The Brisbane Racing Club Board announced today that they have continued making progress toward establishing the appointment of the Management Team that will help guide the Club through the exciting times presented by the coming years.

Following on from the announcement in December that Mr Stephen Ferguson, the existing Queensland Turf Club CEO, had been appointed CEO of the Brisbane Racing Club (BRC), the Board today announced the appointment of Mr Darren Condon to the role of Chief Operations Officer (COO).

Mr Condon comes to the BRC from his current role leading the Queensland and NT management team of cinema industry leaders, Birch Carroll and Coyle. Early in his career, Mr Condon cut his teeth in the Racing industry with a four year stint as a cadet Steward and Handicapper.

Chairman of the BRC Board, Mr Kevin Dixon, said today “We are extremely pleased to have been able to attract someone of Darren’s expertise to the Brisbane Racing Club. Darren’s experience will be invaluable as we heavily focus on improvement to the way we interact with our customers.”

Mr Condon will report to the CEO and will be responsible for all of the Customer facing aspects of the BRC business. “All our customers, whether Members, Public, Sponsors or Non-Racing Events must value the customer experience with BRC” Dixon said. “ These customers are key to us delivering on our growth and revenue expectations.”

Mr Condon will begin work with BRC on February 16, 2009.


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« 2009-Jan-29, 10:06 PM Reply #12 »
From AJC.

One would think the NSW guys could come up with an original idea.
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The NSW Gaming and Racing Minister Kevin Greene announced yesterday that discussions had been held with Racing NSW, AJC and STC Chairmen and Chief Executives in relation to appointing an independent person to undertake a feasibility study on the merits of amalgamating the Australian Jockey Club and the Sydney Turf Club.

We support the exploration of all proposals that will deliver uncompromised benefit to the Clubs and thoroughbred racing in NSW.

The terms of reference of the feasibility study are being determined by the AJC and the STC, so we will ensure the best interests of the Club and its members are upheld at all times.

We look forward to working closely with the Minister, Racing NSW and our colleagues at the STC on the preparation and consideration of the merger feasibility study.

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« 2009-Jan-30, 08:03 AM Reply #13 »
DD, proponents of a merger of the QTC and BTC would have forecast that one of the savings emanating from a merger would have been that instead of paying two CEO's there would only be one. Now with this new appointment it will be one CEO and one COO - basically they were wrong on that score and there will be no saving there.

The fact is they will be wrong on a lot of their other saving forecasts, maybe one receptionist instead of two?
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« 2009-Jan-30, 09:45 AM Reply #14 »
Grega

First, I'd expect the COO would be paid less than a (second) CEO??

Second, with the significant administrative requirements in the lead-up to the merger, and post-merger, plus the redevelopment of the precinct, the CEO BRC will have more than enough to do without overseeing the day-to-day operations on two racetracks.

Third, I've got no doubt at all that there'll be significant economies-of-scale coming out of the merger:  Marketing, purchasing, temporary labour hire and deployment, infrastructure support, sponsorships, equipment purchase and maintenance, etc etc.  Some will only be realised once the merger is bedded down, and that might be a few years down the track.

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« 2009-Jan-30, 10:28 AM Reply #15 »
DD,

First, I'd expect that the CEO of the larger merged club would be paid more than either of the two previous CEO's?

Second, were the significant administrative requirements and associated costs factored into the savings analysis. I'd bet they weren't.

Thirdly, I hope so, but in my view these forecast significant savings are overly optimistic, in fact there is a chance that the merged business will perform worse than the two smaller competitive businesses it replaced, I hope not.

 


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« 2009-Jan-30, 10:44 AM Reply #16 »
Grega


First, I'd expect that the CEO of the larger merged club would be paid more than either of the two previous CEO's?

I can't answer that one.  You might be right, but you might not be.

Second, were the significant administrative requirements and associated costs factored into the savings analysis. I'd bet they weren't.

Yes there were.  $800,000 - $1.1 mill was shown as possible one-off costs.

Thirdly, I hope so, but in my view these forecast significant savings are overly optimistic, in fact there is a chance that the merged business will perform worse than the two smaller competitive businesses it replaced, I hope not.

Yes, there is a chance of that.  But right now all indications to me are that there are significant financial benefits.

Regardless of what you or I think, the merger was being pushed for by the industry, by the controlling body, by the government.



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« 2009-Jan-30, 10:53 AM Reply #17 »
It is just such a sensible move and the mind boggles as to why it didn't happen before this.

It was talked about when we were kids and people would say it just would never be.

Well done to a lot of people but especially to people like Ross(Ascot) who really put in the effort . So it seems from where I stand anyway.  emthup

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« 2009-Jan-30, 11:03 AM Reply #18 »
Ascot was merely one of dozens who put their heart and soul into the merger.

Merging was first mooted by QTC board 15 years ago, but BTC told them to go and ...

If one person warrants separation from the crowd it's BILL CARTER - and of course he permanently will hold the credit for saving Doomben from the wreckers.
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« 2009-Apr-12, 06:53 PM Reply #19 »
MagiC

I presume it was your good self who freed up this thread.

Thank you.

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« 2009-Apr-12, 06:55 PM Reply #20 »
Yes mate, but not sure what has been lost  :confused1:

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« 2009-Apr-12, 07:08 PM Reply #21 »
Nothing much - just yesterday's quaddie, with 1 pick each race. :bop:

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« 2009-Apr-12, 07:13 PM Reply #23 »
MagiC

What do I do to post an image, such as Westie has done in the opener to Brisbane Racing Selections???

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« 2009-Apr-12, 07:42 PM Reply #24 »
Modify your post that has the attachment and click on the drop down menu that says "Link Inline Image..." and select "inline full attachment" to display it as full size  ;)

And this will be added to your post [attachimg=#] if you are creating a new post, just do the "inline attachment thing" as above.

Also if adding more then one attachment / photo's just add the above tag, but replace the "#" with the corresponding attachement, ie [attachimg=1] [attachimg=2] [attachimg=3]
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