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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2008-Dec-24, 07:50 PM

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: westie on 2008-Dec-24, 08:02 PM

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/09/2008 2:23 PM Some relevant posts from brisbaneracingnews.com:   http://www.brisbaneracingnews.com/viewforum.php

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/09/2008 2:43 PM Comment from Bruce on brisbaneracingnews:   Submitted by: Bruce on: 13/09/2008 Subject: Queensland Racing Vote for Extension of Term I understand that if the Queensland Racing Limited extension of term vote is deemed by ASIC not to have been conducted according to all the necessary governance rules, than QRL will be holding another vote on the matter. Stakeholder groups with a vote in this matter should consult more extensively with thier members if there is another vote. Also I would like to know how each of the candidates on the QTC and BTC who are standing for election for the Brisbane Racing Club Board voted in the last QRL vote. Many people have strong views that QRL board members should go up for election as per their original constitutional arrangement. We live in a democratic society where many pople are subject to constant and regular elections why should Queensland Racing Limited be any different? I challenge the BRC candidates to declare how they voted on this matter in the last vote. I understand it is no longer a matter of board confidentiality as many peole are already know how the vote went as the information was leaked. Not sure there's any process that can give Bruce the answers he wants.  The vote for/against the QRL changes would have been made by the BTC/QTC boards collectively, rather than by individual directors.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/09/2008 3:33 PM Another BTC member has given firm recommendations for two of the BTC candidates:   Submitted by: Col Richards on: 13/09/2008 Subject: Quality BRC Candidates: Kevin Dixon and Kerrina King I have owned and raced horses for close on 40 years winning major races in four states. I currently own and operate Gainsborough Lodge Stud in Toowoomba together with being a Director of Brisbane Bloodstock (formerly QBBS Bloosdstock agents) for 12 years. From my own extensive expereince I can say that it is extemely important for any organisation to have people on the Board who have strong knowledge of, and personal experience in, the industry in which the Board operates. I note that Ms King was an attendee at the Australia 2020 Summit in realtion to the thoroughbred racing and breeding industry and has her own bloodstock business. Mr Dixon has extensive international commercial expereince at the level of Global Chief Operating Officer and owns a horse stud. Kerrina King and Kevin Dixon are two candidates that Brisbane racing needs as they "tick all the boxes". I recommend that you vote for DIXON AND KING. from brisbaneracingnews.com

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 14/09/2008 11:51 PM The new forum is  a slow starter, nothing too controversial  there yet ,not surprised about that.Wait till the votes are counted  and the results announced will there be weeping and gnashing of teeth or congratulations all round and everyone will live happily ever after .And Bruce makes a reasonable point I think about consultation on issues like the QRL but from experience it rarely if ever happens mainly because it's impractical.And the vote was reported as 14 in favour 1 informal so there's the answer Bruce. Candice wants to know if females are considered for election. Crikey !   This is one I like from Ray  "I would first like to say that the fact that this forum has been established is a step in the right direction and more like it are needed "   Q What does  he mean ?  there should be more forums or    more steps in the right direction    I'm in favour of the latter.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 9:19 AM muggins   Regarding representation by females on the boards of the Brisbane racing clubs (and thus potentially on BRC)...   QTC has been around for 145 years.  Females have been admitted as members since early 1980s.  For the past 20 years females have had the opportunity to be elected to the Committee/Board.  My memory tells me that only one has nominated, and she was successul, is on the current board, and is a candidate for BRC.   BTC has been around for 75 years.  Until relatively recently (mid 90s), membership was by invitation only, and members of the Committee achieved their status by co-option (by the Committee of the time).  I am not certain if females were previously barred from BTC (then BATC) membership, but possible they were. I believe there have been two females nominate for election as directors of BTC, one was successful (became Chair and subsequently resigned).   Members of both BTC and QTC have had opportunities to nominate for election to their respective boards (and thereby election to BRC board) on two occasions (QTC) and four occasions (BTC) in the immediate past.  I think it's fair to say that females have had no less opportunities than have males.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 11:22 AM Newspaper ads continue to recommend a BRC vote for BTC director Kerrina King as a "proven team player" and someone who'll provide "gender representation".   There's the possibility of two females on the new BRC board.

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From: Monologue9 Sent: 15/09/2008 6:35 PM I believe there have been two females nominate for election as directors of BTC, one was successful (became Chair and subsequently resigned). dd I cut this from your previous message. This has me intrigued. Shouldn't you have said two have nominated for two successes. The one that resigned and the one still in power. Hope you guys are all holding up to the stress of elections.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 6:41 PM Mono   On reflection, neither of us is right.  LOL.   There have been 3 females stand at BTC, two of whom have been successful.  One resigned, one remains in office and is candidate for BRC.

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From: gratlog1 Sent: 15/09/2008 6:45 PM I must admit I'm surprised that there aren't a lot more nominations when the Annual elections come around.   Not so much for this election coming up but the normal annual ones.   Just thought more members would be wanting to have a go.   Then again , it might be a sign of the times and a lot of people cannot be bothered, and reckon it is easier to sit back .   I've never been interested in this side of racing , but I thought that around 30yrs back that they would have got a lot more people to nominate.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 6:49 PM It's also possible the members think the current boards are doing a reasonable job.  Or maybe they think the duties and obligations of directors are greater than the privileges that flow.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 15/09/2008 6:52 PM Thanks for the history lesson Dubbles Be a sport and let Candice know    Wasn't the first lady  elected  to the QTC  Miss Petersen, I think Aileen maybe was her name. I met her father a long time ago.   And  surprise, surprise the QTC website  has a link to the new kid on the block.

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From: gratlog1 Sent: 15/09/2008 6:56 PM Yes, you are probably right, but it is the same with most clubs these days.   Less and less want to step up to the mark.   I would like to see Phil( The Saint) Purser nominate.  He has all the knowledge apparently

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 15/09/2008 7:19 PM Being a team player isn't all it's cracked up to be. At first glance it sounds OK but what does it really mean.? And  in most political contests to be re-elected you need to be part of the team ticket. If you're on the outer you'll be on the outside looking in rather than on the inside looking out when the contest is over.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 7:37 PM But wait there's more.  While mowing the course proper I realised there was at least one more female who stood for the QTC board.  So that makes it two.  I'm sure others can add to that.  LOL.   Muggins   Alayne was certainly one of the first, if not the first to be elected to QTC.  If - and that's always a big IF - my memory is turned on, she was also a "trustee" of one of the tracks.  As you'd recall, she owned the very good horse, Lord Sambeau.   gratlog   Yes, I know you'd like that.  One thing that's worth noting is that directors need to first become members.  You know, pay joining fees, annual subscriptions, etc.

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From: gratlog1 Sent: 15/09/2008 7:40 PM

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: westie on 2008-Dec-24, 08:03 PM

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 7:44 PM Muggins, I meant to add...   The matter of "tickets" is probably not an issue in the current elections.  Both Clubs apparently will accept a vote for less than 4 candidates.  This means there'll be quite a few different voting patterns, comprising a vote for 1, 2, 3, or 4 candidates.  (I wouldn't offer to be Returning Officer.)   We've seen evidence of 3 "tickets" at BTC on the brisbaneracingnews website.  Personally, I'd question how effective any of them will be in practice.    I keep my ears open at QTC and have yet to hear of any "tickets" in their poll.  Maybe people are being kind.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 15/09/2008 8:22 PM Elections to  Boards or Committees of clubs  generally is of little interest to anyone apart from the candidates, their family, friends and supporters.BTC candidates are pretty serious though but all's quiet over the road. It's not like they'll be running the country.In fact, the clubs I've been involved in, the majority of members don't bother to vote even though it requires little effort to mark a ballot paper stick it in an envelope write your name and number on an outer envelope and post or deliver it before the closing date.It might be different here but I wouldn't bet on it.Apathy is everywhere.  From what I've seen, since the advent of control bodies,  race clubs have a mainly domestic focus with QRL really running the show.And it's not too surprising that members aren't falling over themselves rushing to nominate  for a place on the management body of any club even though in this case there are perks of office and the possibility of  being paid  directors fees which will be a first if it gets the green light. I may be wrong but I thought the initial BRC board was to consist of 4 existing Directors from each club and  i'd assumed that nominations were not required from the general membershipAll I can say is I hope that the right candidates get up and that the merger is successful with no internal bickering as we saw when the dividing road was called Gaza strip .

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 9:53 PM Muggins   Two comments...   1.  Yes, the BRC board will be made up of four directors from each of the two Brisbane race clubs.  These directors will be identified by a poll of members of the respective clubs.  Members of the existing boards were eligible te be candidates in the polls.  Seven have nominated from BTC, five from QTC.  The general membership has known of the process for two years and have had opportunities to nominate for election to the BTC and QTC boards.  Several have done that and been successful and are now in the polls for BRC board.   2.  With respect, I believe you are seriously underestimating the role of the soon-to-be-convened BRC board.  While BRC directors might not be charged with deciding whether the Stradbroke is WFA or handicap, they have some onerous obligations and responsibilities as directors of a public company.  The assets of BRC will total just shy of $100 million by my guess.  These assets must be managed prudently and with due regard to Corps Laws.  The Brisbane Racing Precinct consists of Qld's best racecourses and the ones where most prizemoney is dealt out.  This is much more than a local footy or golf club building a new clubhouse.  It's likely that the BRC will be engaged in contracts worth many millions.  They'll get one chance to get it right.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 15/09/2008 10:40 PM Don't disagree with your comments dd about the responsibilities of the Board   but  imo a competent  management team is more important to running the club efficiently and the CEO is the main player. And ,for the first time that I've noticed it , the QTC annual report is on the club's site for all to see.And jolly good show too it seems.QRL has contributed significantly to the bottom line so despite the  indications of bad blood  as todays QRL release shows. they  do not appear to have  penalised the QTC.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 10:45 PM Yes, the CEO is the paid officer....but it's the Directors - on a Board that runs that way a Board should run - who make the policy and sign the documents, and accept fiduciary responsibility, and ...

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 11:00 PM master plan: members' meeting The Queensland Turf Club (QTC) and Brisbane Turf Club (BTC) have entered into a Memorandum of Understanding with a Property Development Company, Watpac to develop a Master Plan to redevelop Doomben and Eagle Farm Racecourses. The objectives of the Master Plan include: Utilise the whole of the QTC and BTC land; Recognise the core function of Eagle Farm and Doomben land as racecourses; Identify parcels of land to be sold and/ or redeveloped by QTC and BTC to provide capital to facilitate the development of the racecourses; Develop the racecourses into state of the art facilities comprising race day venues, non race day venues and community facilities; Provide income streams sufficient to support the ongoing management maintenance and development of the assets of QTC and BTC. meeting details So that the widest possible input is given to Watpac, we would like to hear what Members think is needed in each racecourse. You therefore are invited to attend a meeting, the details of which are as follows: Date - Thursday, 18 September 2008 Time - 6:30pm Venue - Satchel Room, Ground Floor, Doomben Racecourse Light refreshments will be served. The Boards of both Clubs look forward to seeing all Members at this meeting

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/09/2008 11:10 PM

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 16/09/2008 11:55 AM Someone should run a sweep   I'll go for Dixon,Milner.Tighe,Tinniswood BTC and Trivett,Dawson,Sexton,Kann QTC

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From: ShortHalfHead Sent: 16/09/2008 12:09 PM What price can I get about a DD (Dixon - Dawson) Quinella?

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From: Geoff Sent: 16/09/2008 12:14 PM "to which"?

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 16/09/2008 9:03 PM All is peaceful all is quiet      There's no  new news on Brisbane Racing News.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/09/2008 9:22 PM I wouldn't be outlaying any of my hard-earned on these two races.  No clear cut winners as I see it.   One would expect both Chair and Vice-Chair from BTC and QTC to be elected.  After that, the answer's a pineapple, IMO.   Would be nice if we can get at least three forumites elected.   Vote early, vote often.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 16/09/2008 9:48 PM Would be nice if we can get at least three forumites elected.     Gratlog ?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/09/2008 10:55 PM muggins   I would bet on the fact that gratlog won't be a director of BRC - for the initial term at least.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
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From: gratlog1 Sent: 17/09/2008 8:33 AM Me thinks Muggins might have a drink sometimes

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 17/09/2008 10:39 AM Gratlog Only if thirsty and on a hot day/night.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/09/2008 12:13 PM Editorial from brisbaneracingnews.com.au:   Queensland Racing Limited (QRL) has become a topic of hot debate in the current Brisbane Racing Club elections. Since the start of the elections there has been considerable interest in exactly how directors at both clubs voted in relation to the QRL extension of term vote. Members have indicated that the topic will be one  which could be raised for consideration at the AGM. Matters hotted up even further today when  Mr Bentley emailed a letter to a large data base of people including many club members who are  currently making their decisions on which directors to elect to the new BRC Board.  His Honour W.C. Carter QC and the QTC would seem to be particularly unpopular with Mr Bentley.  He comments that "Under normal circumstances, a control body would not normally comment on a letter sent to race club members." However, obviously, if one follows the logic, then these are not normal circumstances because Mr Bentley does go on to comment on His Honour ’s letter. Mr Bentley quotes  Commissioners Daubney and Rafter (2006)  as identifying factional interests in the racing industry. Clearly,  there are still factions in the racing industry. In this current election for the BTC Directors to go forward to the BRC, you might at first glance, think  that the factions  are reflected in the two tickets put out respectively by Mr Wanless and His Honour until you note that of each of the four men on the two tickets, two men appear on both tickets. What can be made of this is anyone’s guess. And as for Ms King who is on neither ticket does this make her a true independent? Vince Pennisi 16/9/2008

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/09/2008 3:50 PM BTC Chair Wayne Milner won the first today with Chelle's Alibi.   BTC Vice-Chair Kevin Dixon won the second with first-starter Bonne Affaire.   Shame the green was scratched from the last.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 17/09/2008 8:51 PM Crikey!   Make up your mind Vince, one minute she's a team player now she's an independent.   Like all the others she's dependent on getting a quota otherwise she'll really be independent.   No doubt where Lindsay's loyalties lie Never was never will be and no surprise about that imo.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 18/09/2008 12:22 AM WARNING BELLS are ringing,  recent post on the new web site hopes for community consultation on any proposed redevelopments at EF and Doomben which will be mandatory .Interesting that Milton redevelopment will have special legislative protection for XXXX Brewery so residents cannot complain about the smells Stand by for objections and lengthy battles before the vision takes shape.

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From: Thenamy1 Sent: 18/09/2008 12:47 AM Muggins, the redevelopment is going to be a cracker of a battle. You will recall that when it was proposed that Doomben was going to be sold there were many there was oppositon from racing folk as well as local residents. Those 2 groups are now on opposite sides of the fence.   I remember at the Hamilton Town Hall meeting,  Mr Nicholls spruiking on about traffic on Nudgee Rd and green space. Well those issue will be back on the agenda ... I wonder which way Mr Nicholls will lean ?

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From: fatprawn Sent: 18/09/2008 1:50 PM   There are a lot of opinions on the make-up of the new B.R.C. but like many decisions on matters of importance in the industry bentley will have a large imput by trying to get as many of his mates appointed as possible. Does any one else have the right to be there?

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 18/09/2008 7:12 PM from the BRN web site Grant writes,   "As a relative newcomer to Queensland having moved here from Sydney 5 years ago, I'm not that well versed with the politics associated with the QTC and the BTC. But I'm pleased the BRC is moving forward so racing can progress in Queensland and leave the past behind. But one thing I have been curious about for some time now is why hasn’t Bill Carter stood as a director for either of the clubs in the past as he is outspoken on most issues?"   I was thinking the same thing.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/09/2008 11:08 PM Bill Carter did run for a position on the QTC Committee many years ago.  He was narrowly defeated.  At the time he was a QC, and frequently appeared before he QTC representing licensees.  Many cases were controversial and I would suspect he'd not have had a lot of fans on the then QTC Committee.   My guess is that when Bill Carter became a Supreme Court judge he would have thought improper to take a seat on a race club Board.   From a non-executive position of race club member and owner, he was able to play a totally different role than he might have had he been a director.  How lucky we are. Without Bill Carter:   1.  We'd be going to Wacol on a Saturday.   2.  We'd have seen Doomben wrecked.   If ever there's a statue erected on a Brisbane racecourse it should be of Bill Carter.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 18/09/2008 11:56 PM That's very interesting dubbles, I learn something every day. There have been a couple of  serving Judges on race clubs Sir Edward Williams and Edmund Broad are two I know of. but  I'd go along with your guess on this one as the reason he didn't seek election. That was then, this is now, so maybe in the future he'll have another go. Wacol was a crazy idea would never have got off the ground and selling Doomben leaving only EF was another unsupportable idea  . If they do put up a statue better ban the pidgeons.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/09/2008 1:04 AM muggins   Apart from the judicial appointment, I expect Bill Carter's view would have been "I've tried once, and that's it".  Though Bill Carter would romp in if he stood for a vacancy on the new BRC - should one arise - I very much doubt that he'd be a runner.  Bill is involved in many unpaid activities in support of the disadvantaged in our Society and would not want to walk away from them.   I think it was Prawn who posted elsewhere that Bill is a hugely popular figure on Brisbane racecourses.   And in case you think I'm Bill Carter's right hand man (or vice versa) let me assure you that ain't the situation.  When I tossed my hat in the ring for a racing board vacancy a few years back can you guess who nominated someone else to stand against me?

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 19/09/2008 10:22 AM Crikey! Dubbles you could take up mind reading on that effort , that's exactly what I was thinking.But no harm done either way.You've kissed and made up long ago I imagine. And just as well too,we have enough trouble keeping up with the Bill & Bob show and now there's Bart & Obi.It's standing room only at the moment. It's obvious Bill has lots of supporters and no doubt has many good qualities. He's not backward in coming forward and standing up for what he believes in and he deserves credit for that.That's a quality which I admire greatly although I should say I don't necessarily agree with all his opinions or on occasions his timing.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: westie on 2008-Dec-24, 08:05 PM

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/09/2008 10:29 AM LOL, muggins.   No kissing between us.  We have robust debates on lots of matters.  It wouldn't surprise you that he gets it wrong on occasions when he doesn't agree with me.  But he backs my tips, so I get square that way.   But if I was fighting in the trenches I'd want Bill Carter with me.

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From: Ascot Sent: 22/09/2008 8:01 AM Monday 22 September is D day for Directors of the new BRC.  The votes are in except for what the postman brings this morning.  I can now reveal the betting market "insiders" have been spruiking:   Remember there are 4 vacant positions to be filled from BTC and another 4 from QTC for a total of 8.  This market is for the chances of each individual making the respective cut.   BTC: to secure one of the 4 positions Kevin Dixon              $1.10 Kerrina King             $100 Wayne Millner           $2.50 Wayne Purchase        $5  Peter Tighe                $1.90 Ross Tinniswood       $5 PaulWilliams              $1.01    QTC: to secure one of the 4 positions Mary Lee Trivett        $1.90 David Dawson            $1.01 Neville Bell                 $2.10 Bill Sexton                  $1.01 Eddie Kahn                $1.01    Good luck to all involved.

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From: gratlog1 Sent: 22/09/2008 8:30 AM I'm hoping they have it wrong at the BTC.   Good luck Ross.   Also hope they have it right over the road to see DD get up.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/09/2008 9:10 AM Hmmm, ok.  Thanks for posting Ascot.   I found the both races pretty difficult.  As I mentioned earlier, it should happen that both Chair and Vice-Chair get up in both cases.   While I went crazy trying to form a market for the 4 spots, I came up with these markets for the candidate to TOP the poll.  (I'm presuming numbers will be revealed by both Clubs.  If not, all bets are declared off.)   BTC Directors   5/4 Paul Williams 9/4 Wayne Milner 8/1 Kevin Dixon, Peter Tighe 20/1 Wayne Purchase 100/1 Kerrina King 1,000,000,0000,000/1 Ross Tinniswood   QTC Directors   4/7 Bill Sexton 7/4 Eddie Kann 100/1 Mary Lee Trivett, Neville Bell 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000/1 David Dawson   (Thanks for the good wishes, gratlog)

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/09/2008 10:49 AM Oh dear.  Someone's pride has been hurt.  I'd best adjust the BTC market.   BTC Directors   5/4 Paul Williams 9/4 Wayne Milner 8/1 Kevin Dixon, Peter Tighe 20/1 Wayne Purchase 100/1 Kerrina King 1,000,000,000/1 Ross Tinniswood

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 22/09/2008 11:19 AM Not long to go now.And it's not the end of the world for those who don't make the cut.     ARP reports from Brisvegas Already a crowd is gathering ouside the offices where the count is to be held. Radio 4TAB is there, as is the SKY outside broadcast van with Andrew Bensley aboard.Several cars with darkened windows are in the vicinity ,all that can be seen are shadowey figures wearing grey overcoats and dark glasses reflections from their video recorder lights.A group of ladies wearing identical hats are quietly conversing among themselves, attracting appreciative glances from  passing public servants. On the opposite side of the street stands a group of undercover operatives, believed to be observers from QRL, surreptiously taking photos and making notes.Once the candidates and scrutineers arrive police are expected to cordon off the area to avoid the successful candidates being swamped by bobby soxers seeking autographs. Meanwhile celebrity agent Max Maxson is trying to steal a march on arch rival Harry M Spiller for the rights to the losers' tell all storys. Be watching A Current Affair and Australian Story for the ending,happy for some and not so for others.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/09/2008 11:26 AM Very amusing words from someone who's been around for a while.   I think it's more likely it'll be the end of world for those who DO make the cut.  LOL.

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From: Grega9430 Sent: 22/09/2008 6:54 PM Is the counting over?

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 22/09/2008 7:23 PM Cripes, This is nail biting stuff .The tension is electric ,not another sleepless night .   The count should be well and truly over.   Tomorrow is DDay.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/09/2008 7:25 PM If anyone gets results please post them for us all to see.

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From: Ascot Sent: 22/09/2008 11:34 PM BTC Result reflects Ascot's market at Post 48.   QTC result pending.

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From: Monologue9 Sent: 23/09/2008 8:18 AM A mixed result for the forum crew. Congratulations go out to dd and commiserations to Ascot and Meynink I'm sure the ones that missed out will initially be disappointed but life goes on and in fact they may even get their lives back again now this this is all over . Let's hope the newly elected BRC directors will move on in "peace and harmony" and look after the industry as a whole(not hole)as well as it's voting members.

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From: Ascot Sent: 23/09/2008 9:10 AM Thanks Mono.  Was about what I expected so I can't complain.  My task was to help effect the merger  and destroy forever the Gaza strip mentality that has held Bris racing back for sooooo long.    I am pretty chuffed that a team of us achieved that after two years of absolute nonsense.    This is a really good, strong Board that is forming.  I am excited. A perfect mix of industry, club, commercial, financial, owner and breeding interests without any dominant lobby group. And no loafers among em either.  If QRL cannot get along with that bunch, it won't the BRC's fault.   As for me & Meynink, well we are still on the BTC for a year or so until the BRC takes over the reins.  Plenty of work still to do there to have it looking shiny and detailed for the new owners.   Onwards and upwards now.  Yippeeeeee!!

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From: Grega9430 Sent: 23/09/2008 10:19 AM Well done Gentlemen and congratulations to DD, all the best with the future BRC.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: westie on 2008-Dec-24, 08:06 PM

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From: ceedeecee Sent: 23/09/2008 10:35 AM May I suggest one of the first things that the new board look into is the lack of walking facilities for horses being stabled raceday at Eagle Farm. Because the stablehands and trainers are forced to walk their horses on the road where the floats are loading/off-loading it creates a dangerous situation.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 23/09/2008 11:02 AM Bart opened the envelope for us  in the CM today with the full list of electees,but no details of voting figures.Maybe that'll come later.    Ticks to Williams,Dixon,Tighe & Milner for the BTC   and Bell,Dawson,Kann & Sexton  QTC.   No sign of either lady finishing amongst the also rans.A good colt will generally beat a good filly so I've heard.   Well Done Dubbles and commiserations to Ascot and others.   No doubt Bob will be on the ball early firing off messages of good will to all concerned, after all he had a significant input into the birth of this little body.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 23/09/2008 11:21 AM 23rd September 2008 For Immediate Release Brisbane Racing Club Board Appointed The Brisbane Turf Club (BTC) and Queensland Turf Club (QTC) today announced the appointment of the new Board of Directors of the Brisbane Racing Club (BRC). In another step towards completing the merger of the BTC and QTC, a poll of the Members of each Club was held yesterday to elect the eight Founding Directors for the BRC. The new BRC Board consists of four Founding Directors from each of the BTC and QTC. The four BTC Founding Directors appointed are Kevin Dixon, Wayne Milner, Peter Tighe and PaulWilliams with the QTC selecting David Dawson, Neville Bell, Bill Sexton and Eddie Kann to theBRC Board. The new BRC Board will meet in the near future to commence planning for the new Club andelect a Chairman. Various conditions such as approvals from the ACCC, Australian Taxation Office, the QueenslandGovernment and Queensland Racing Ltd have to be met before the merger is finalized. The BRC Board will now be working very closely with both the BTC and QTC towards achieving theseconditions. It is anticipated the Brisbane Racing Club will be operational as at 1st July 2009. ***ENDS*** Media Contacts: Malcolm Holmes Stephen Ferguson - BTC Chief Executive Officer QTC Chief Executive Officer P: (07) 3268 6800 P: (07) 3268 2171 E: mholmes@doomben.com E: sferguson@qtc.org

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/09/2008 12:44 PM Thanks for the good wishes, guys.  Much appreciated.   Disappointing that our forum won't have additional reps on the Board.  Hopefully there'll be opportunities in the future for Ascot and meynink to contribute to BRC.  Race club boards need people who know what racing's all about.  If nothing else, I can expect to be told when something's not right.   One thing about Ascot, he's got a huge future as a bookie.  His posted market on the BTC voting in particular was amazingly accurate.  I'd have to suggest he'd already counted the votes before he framed the market.   It goes without saying that there a busy and challenging times ahead for all involved.  Let's hope in a few years we're looking at TWO racetracks that meet the needs of every segment of the industry.   (ceedeecee...re your comment, I would suggest you put your thoughts in writing to CEO of QTC.)

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From: Ascot Sent: 24/09/2008 9:32 AM Things are strangely quiet on the new website www.brisbaneracingnews.com   They havn't even posted the election result yet, let alone congratulate the winners.  In fact there has been no news posted there for 5 days.  Hmmmmmm.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 24/09/2008 9:51 AM Quiet silent actually and nothing on the QRL site either apart from reproducing the joint press release.I fully expected some announcement from Bob, after all he's entitled to share in the glory, having been the main sponsor of the BRC. .

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From: Monologue9 Sent: 24/09/2008 9:47 PM The voting %'s looks like being a closed shop. I always enjoy the stats from these polling days. Things like "how many voted" what percentage of votes did all candidates receive. Surely after taking the time to read through the sent out literature and reading all candidates auto biographies we are entitled to know how our vote counted in the scheme of things.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 25/09/2008 12:29 AM Mono Not very likely that the individual votes will be released publicly but the total number of votes cast should  be.Probably wouldn't be more than a 60% turn out .ACCC might tell if asked nicely once the papers are in.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/09/2008 12:39 AM Muggins   As I understand it, ACCC couldn't give a hoot on this topic.  The respective boards resolved to conduct a poll of members, nothing more, nothing less.  It's no different really, to asking members to say if they prefer ham or turkey in the carvery.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 25/09/2008 12:46 AM Just going on what QRL said Dubbles that  ACCC and ASIC have to tick the amalgamated body and if so  I expect evidence of compliance with the constitution would be a pre-requisite.That should include votes cast for the board .Only Mono and me appear interested,you could  help us out if you know

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/09/2008 12:53 AM Muggins   The Merger Implementation Deed required both Clubs to identify 4 current directors to be go forward to the BRC board.   The process is specified neither in the MID nor in either Club's constitution.   The respective boards could have drawn them by lot, for example - but chose (rightly) to let the members decide.   Whether or not the counts are provided to members is a matter for the respective Clubs.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/09/2008 10:50 PM The Brisbane Turf Club held its AGM today.   Chairman Wayne Milner outlined the difficulties Doomben had faced in the year of EI.  Milner paid tribute to the club's supporters and employees, many of whom had taken annual leave during the racing shutdown or had accepted redeployment in other areas of BTC operation.  The Chairman re-iterated the challenges in attracting punters back to the racetrack post-EI, and painted a bleak picture if the Club was to continuing operating alone.  (Wayne Milner has been pro-merger since the idea was first mooted.)   Milner also acknowledged that the protracted Merger vote and other contentious elections for BTC board positions had caused divisions in the Club and damaged friendships.  Milner suggested that members bury their differences and work together to ensure the success of BRC.   But judging by the body language of one (unsuccessful) candidate in the BRC directors' vote I'll be getting one less Christmas card this year.  And I voted for the candidate in the every election the candidate has contested.  Oh well......

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From: Ascot Sent: 26/09/2008 12:01 AM DD, twas probably a deodorant / aftershave issue.  Suggest you finally abandon the Brut label you have been wearing since a teenager and start using one of those brands they give you in Qantas Club.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 26/09/2008 10:54 AM Call for unity goes out Article from: Bart Sinclair September 26, 2008 12:00am BRISBANE Turf Club chairman Wayne Milner yesterday urged his members to "build some bridges" in relationships with other members in the aftermath of the heated merger debate. Milner told the annual general meeting the BTC had reported a $1.1 million operating loss in a horrendous year when equine influenza and the proposed merger with Queensland Turf Club had caused some friction within the club. "Our membership numbers are down about 150 and it's obvious some friendships have been broken. I'd urge you all to put out a hand and see if we can entice some people back to the track," Milner said. Treasurer Wayne Purchase said the club had managed to come through the EI shutdown "reasonably unscathed" with about a $130,000 total loss. "But we were fortunate to have the co-operation of a lot of staff who took voluntary leave entitlements in the EI crisis," Purchase said. "A big factor in our annual result was a $561,000 loss crystallised by the decision by the previous board to liquidate a share portfolio. "The club had expenses of $450,000 in relation to the merger votes. Two thirds of that was in legal costs." The BTC has cash reserves of more than $7 million but more than $3 million of that has been earmarked for expenditure on workplace, health and safety issues at Doomben.

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
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From: Grega9430 Sent: 26/09/2008 11:56 AM   Good decision by the previous Board to liquidate the share portfolio, I wonder what the booked loss would have been now if they had not. The way the treasurer is quoted intimates that it was a bad decision by the previous board.   They might have booked a loss last year but I don't imagine that their share investments over the past few years made a net loss, does anyone know?   In any case for this board to take the reins of a Club with cash reserves of $7M and then bag the previous board is a great way to "build some bridges".

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/09/2008 12:21 PM Grega   Members were informed at yesterday's AGM that an review by an independent investment analysis had revealed that the Club would have been $60,000 better off had the Club's funds been invested in term desposits versus equities (over the period when the Club was exposed to equities).  Bit like the tortoise and the hare.   But, yes, things would have been much worse had the (current) board not abandoned equities early this year.   Of course it was pity they didn't get out in November - but that applies to many of us.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/09/2008 12:25 PM muggins   Re your highlighted:   The club had expenses of $450,000 in relation to the merger votes. Two thirds of that was in legal costs."   Both QTC and BTC agreed to compensate QRL with $175,000 (each Club) for "legal and other expenses" incurred by QRL in the lead-up to the merger.  BTC had two votes on the merger.  QTC's cost for the merger expenses (direct) were $278,000 from memory.

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From: Grega9430 Sent: 26/09/2008 1:35 PM But, yes, things would have been much worse had the (current) board not abandoned equities early this year   DD, the Treasurer is quoted as saying "a $561,000 loss crystallised by the decision by the previous board " - was it in fact the current board? If it was, they are then bagging the previous board for what was a good decision anyway, but one made by the current board .

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/09/2008 1:47 PM Grega   What you're saying above is correct....What I was trying to say - albeit ambiguously - was that the current board made a firm decision to stay away from equities, and that BTC is better off because they did.   One day I'll draw up a spreadsheet to show all the changes in BTC board over the last couple of years.   That boring mob at EF just hang around for ever.

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From: Ascot Sent: 26/09/2008 10:30 PM I note the Brisbane Racing News website, much advertised in the newspaper leading up to the BRC elections is now dead as a dodo.  They havn't even posted the election results yet.

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From: Ascot Sent: 26/09/2008 10:40 PM Unsuccessful BRC Director candidate drowned his sorrow last weekend at Rosehill.  See if you can fund him at:   http://perfectvisionfashions.com/index.php   Just click on Gallery

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From: Ascot Sent: 26/09/2008 10:45 PM find, not fund!!

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From: dubbledee Sent: 26/09/2008 10:51 PM I'd much prefer to see ya with ya companions at EF.

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From: Monologue9 Sent: 28/09/2008 10:58 AM Might have to start up a new thread titled QRL V race club committees. Bentley Condemns His Critics Saturday, 27 September 2008: The unrest and back biting that is disrupting Queensland racing has reached a new high with QR chairman Bob Bentley issuing a scathing attack on his opponents. In an unprecedented move by a racing industry leader, Bentley has issued an official press release declaring he had no intention of resigning and labeling his race club critics as “self serving dinosaurs”. 'The spreading of rumours and constant conflict by a small minority of self serving dinosaurs demonstrates little regard for the hard working and loyal staff of QRL,” Bentley said. “I will not be resigning, retiring to the back bench or standing down. Bentley said a recent vote by stakeholders confirmed approval for a change to the QRL constitution to allow the existing Board to complete a full term by an 87 per cent majority. “This should send a signal and a clear message to those that continue to agitate for a return to a representative club control model that can only benefit a select minority,” Bentley said. “The representative race club control model has been tried and failed and in doing so paralysed the industry for 10 years through conflict of interest and marginalised decisions. “The race club representative model is current in the country racing council composition and is responsible for the current inaction and conflict of interest in decision making.” Bentley said QRL was granted a control body licence to administer the thoroughbred code in Queensland for a period of six years concluding in 2012. “QRL does not operate as a gentleman's club and will continue to manage the industry for the benefit of stakeholders not the committees of race clubs,” Bentley said. “The Board by any reasonable measure has advanced the industry significantly during it's' term of office and will continue to build on the changes that have been implemented and further changes that are required to sustain the dynamics of the industry.” courtesy of Racing and Sports.

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From: Grega9430 Sent: 28/09/2008 1:31 PM 'The spreading of rumours and constant conflict by a small minority of self serving dinosaurs demonstrates little regard for the hard working and loyal staff of QRL,” Bentley said. And then he proceeds to show little regard for the hard working and loyal staff of Raceclubs.   What an idiot.

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From: triple-7- Sent: 29/09/2008 9:29 AM Interesting wine after the event in the Sun Herald yesterday. After spending tens of thousands on radio, newspaper and website advertising maybe many members just didn't think she was up for the job, regardless of gender?   c/ Sun Herald   Racing's battle of the sexes   Racing may be the sport of kings, but in Brisbane last week it was also a nest of vipers. The election of an all-male board to the newly-formed Brisbane Racing Club has triggered claims of chauvinism, backstabbing and duplicitous behaviour. Members of the Brisbane Turf Club at Doomben and the Queensland Turf Club at Eagle Farm voted on Monday to elect eight directors to the amalgamated BRC board. Four men each from the QTC and the BTC were elected but the two female directors  one from each club  were unsuccessful. Kerrina King was considered highly qualified for the position: she was a Brisbane Turf Club director,  runs her own bloodstock business and is executive secretary of the Thoroughbred Breeders Queensland Association. Her company, Kings Bloodstock, sponsored Race 7 at Doomben yesterday.   She was invited to Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's 2020 Summit in April to put forward her ideas for the future of thoroughbred racing and breeding in Australia. Ms King said she suspected there was a belief among some influential male members of the two clubs that the job was too difficult for a woman. ''I have a serious concern that there was a concerted effort not to have a woman on the new board,'' she said. She said she was shocked and disappointed that two how-to-vote letters recommended only men for the new board. The author of one letter, Queensland Turf Club member and racehorse owner Ron Wanless, said he recommended the men because he knew them and was unaware any women, including QTC director Mary-Lee Trivett, were running. ''If I'd known she was running I would have voted for her because I know her and I think she'd do a good job,'' he said. ``I have plenty of women working for me and I don't have any problem with women on boards.'' Retired Queen's Counsel Bill Carter, who wrote the other letter, said he recommended the men because he thought they would be the best for the job. He denied his choice had anything to do with gender. ''In fact, I voted for Mary-Lee Trivett,'' he said. In his letter, he expressed his ``overriding concern that the BRC move forward positively, productively and with unity, so that QR [Queensland Racing] and its directors will understand that the members of this club are sick and tired of disunity and division and of QR decision-making which is seen to be influenced, rightly or wrongly, by personal rivalries or long-standing friendships''. Ms King said Mr Carter had supported her in her attempt to win her BTC directorship and thought he was supporting her for the BRC. ''I was extremely shocked when I saw [Bill Carter's] letter and that he wasn't recommending me,'' Ms King said. ''Some members have told me that they were told not to vote for me and not because I hadn't done a good job [as BTC director],'' she said. But Mr Carter said he had not given Ms King any assurances of his support for her tilt at the BRC board. ''If she's misinterpreted what I said, that's her problem.'' BTC chairman Wayne Milner said he was disappointed there were  no women on the new board. ''I think Brisbane racing has missed a great opportunity,'' he said. ''But I don't think there was a concerted effort to keep women off the board.'' Ms Trivett said: ''Many QTC men said they were sorry I wasn't elected but I don't believe it was a gender issue.'' Dale Olsson, a member of both clubs and owner of Brisbane millinery The Hat Box, said she was ''outraged'' by the how-to-vote letters. ''QTC has always been an old boys' club and I believe there was a lot of skulduggery involved in the vote,'' she said. ''Kerrina worked long and tirelessly and there was definitely connivance to keep her from being elected.'' </BOD>

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 29/09/2008 10:04 AM   ''I have a serious concern that there was a concerted effort not to have a woman on the new board,'' she said. KK  Right On Lady  ''But I don't think there was a concerted effort to keep women off the board.'' WM They can't both be right You better watch out dubbles .

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/09/2008 1:08 PM I hang around the tracks a bit and have to say I am unaware of ANY effort by ANYONE to maintain either BTC, QTC or BRC boards as a male enclave.  Personally, I voted for both females in the recent BRC elections, and have voted for several in earlier board elections.   While it's true that Ms King campaigned aggressively, it wasn't that which captured my vote.  It apparently hasn't captured enough of the other members, either.  Perhaps it's relevant that none of the other 6 (male) BTC directors who were shooting for the BRC campaigned in the media.   It must have been a terrible disappointment for the Sun Herald journo that Mary Lee Trivett merely said "I believe I got beaten because I didn't get enough votes".  Full credit to MLT for not crying "foul".  Imagine the belting the QTC would have received then!!!   And what a pity that the SH journo didn't include some FACTS.  I'd bet my super balance (what's left) that the journo WAS told:   1. Women have had the opportunity to join the Boards of BTC and QTC for about 20 years (i.e. almost 50 elections).   2. Of several hundred women eligible, just 5 have chosen to nominate.   3.  Of these five, 3 were successful.   4. Of these three, 1 attained the position of Chair (of BTC).   So what's the requirement?  Equal opportunity, or reserve half the number of spots on the board/s for women?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/09/2008 1:43 PM Dale Olsson, a member of both clubs and owner of Brisbane millinery The Hat Box, said she was ''outraged'' by the how-to-vote letters. ''QTC has always been an old boys' club and I believe there was a lot of skulduggery involved in the vote,'' she said. ''Kerrina worked long and tirelessly and there was definitely connivance to keep her from being elected.'' Hmmm...strong words in the SH article.  Wonder what the "skulduggery" was?  Dead people voting, some votes being thrown in the bin, some members voting more than once????  Will be interesting to hear more from Ms Olsson. Time the QTC tossed out those "old boys", too.  Tell 'em to piss off and play bowls on Saturday afternoon.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
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From: dubbledee Sent: 1/10/2008 12:47 PM From: Ascot Sent: 9/26/2008 8:30 PM I note the Brisbane Racing News website, much advertised in the newspaper leading up to the BRC elections is now dead as a dodo.  They havn't even posted the election results yet.  As noted by Ascot, no activity on BRN since the election results announced. Shame, Brisbane Racing needs a website to put out information that's at least bordering on sensible and not tinged with hatred and hidden agendas.  The fact it's not trying to sell shit tips would be another BIG plus.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/10/2008 6:19 PM 9th October 2008 Brisbane Racing Club Chairman Appointed The Brisbane Racing Club (BRC) today announced that Mr. Kevin Dixon had been unanimouslyappointed as Chairman. The Board of Directors of the BRC met for the first time today. The BRC Board consists of four Founding Directors from each of the Brisbane Turf Club Ltd and (BTC) and Queensland turf Club Ltd (QTC). The four BTC Founding Directors are Kevin Dixon, Wayne Milner, Peter Tighe and Paul Williams with the QTC Directors being David Dawson, Neville Bell, Bill Sexton and Eddie Kann. Mr. Dixon today said, “The new Board has a lot of work ahead with the most important objective being the creation of a master plan to redevelop Doomben and Eagle Farm Racecourses.” “I look forward to working with Queensland Racing Ltd, Club Members and all other stakeholders to deliver a vibrant racing precinct in Brisbane,” said Mr. Dixon. “I also wish to recognise the efforts of BTC Chairman Wayne Milner and QTC Chairman Bill Sexton in getting the Clubs to this point.” The Board resolved that in the absence of the Club Chairman, the Chairman of the Governance and Finance Sub Committee would act as Chairman. Mr. Eddie Kann was elected as Chairman of the Governance and Finance Sub Committee. Mr. Paul Williams was elected as Chairman of the Merger Implementation and Master Planning Sub Committee. Applications for the role of Chief Executive will be invited shortly. The intention is that the new Club will commence operations as from 1 July 2009.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/10/2008 6:59 PM BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon is sponsoring the first at EF on Saturday via his stud farm, Racetree.   He'll no doubt be trying to win it with handy filly Seesawing.

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From: Ascot Sent: 9/10/2008 9:54 PM I have to say I am seriously disappointed in that BrisbaneRacingNews website.  No activity now for almost a month, yet it was launched with newspaper adverts and immense interest....then zilch, zippo, nothing.  No post on the BRC news today and am still waiting to see the BRC directors election announced there.   0/10 for news and purpose from me.  Could well be lemon of the year.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 12/10/2008 8:35 PM Ascot    Anyone who is disappointed has a remedy, make a contribution, preferably something controversial and breath some life into the comatose body .

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/11/2008 9:18 AM BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon reportedly is in favour of in-field stables at Eagle Farm, having recently seen the facilities at Fuchu, Tokyo.   From today's The Courier-Mail:   Tokyo racecourse in Japan inspires Eagle Farm By Bart Sinclair November 16, 2008 11:00pm THOSE responsible for the long-awaited redevelopment of Eagle Farm can draw inspiration from the world-class facilities at Tokyo racecourse Some who have experienced racing at the track might double up with laughter at this. The cost alone of the main grandstand, which was opened last year after a seven-year staged building program, runs to hundreds of millions of dollars. Eight days ago, more than 60,000 people attended a meeting in Fuchu without a hint of crowding, which is not a surprise as the attendance record is 196,000. The funds available for the renovation of Eagle Farm are not even remotely close to those behind the magnitude of the facilities at Fuchu. However some of the concept can be replicated on a vastly scaled down size. Kevin Dixon, the chairman of the Brisbane Racing Club that is the product of the merger of the two metropolitan race clubs, said it was important the new entity got the planning right to make the most of the resources that would become available. "It's apparent in Japan they are obviously acutely aware of the need to make productive use of every square metre of space on the racecourse," said Dixon, who attended last week's Asian Racing Conference in Tokyo. "I was particularly interested in how Japanese racing has utilised the infield space of their major racecourses. "They have used their expertise to install facilities to make the best use of that area. "And that has opened up opportunities in other sections of the course. "It's exactly what we are looking for from the redevelopment of both Eagle Farm and Doomben. "At Eagle Farm our model will be slightly different with oncourse stabling infield. "But placing the stables there allows for more commercial use of the land where they are currently housed. "It's all about generating more income to provide the best facilities for the racegoer. It's a win-win situation for racing. "We have identified an extra 14,000 square metres of land to generate revenue. "The building infield at Fuchu is not intrusive. "The viewing areas from the stand work well in conjunction with a permanent screen infield." The open-floor plan private box system works well at Fuchu. A similar innovation will be considered for corporate facilities at Eagle Farm and Doomben. The eight-level Tokyo grandstand is known as the Fuji View Stand and racegoers have a commanding view of Mt Fuji.

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From: muggins1936 Sent: 17/11/2008 10:29 AM Crikey! Someone's not listening .Bob is on record as refusing to approve stabling centrefield at EF .An interesting piece from The Chairman's Desk column in QR magazine "The development of Palm Meadows can be achieved, but as with all significant developments, the financial model is integral. The current market value of the Bundall site has dropped considerably since the initial feasibility study in 2006. This decrease in value has placed considerable strain on the financial model. Notwithstanding that we have several reports still outstanding and the Control Body will be in a position to make a decision regarding Palm Meadows early in November, it is less likely that the project will proceed given the current global financial situation. Having said all of this, stakeholders should clearly be on a notice that the Control Body is determined to continue to move towards establishing a first-class racing facility in South East Queensland. It is something that we do not have at the moment and, in my view, it is something that the industry deserves."

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/11/2008 11:23 AM There's no doubt someone's not listening.  The voices of dozens of trainers are getting louder, too.

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From: specialweek Sent: 17/11/2008 12:37 PM From: dubbledee Sent: 11/17/2008 7:18 AM BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon reportedly is in favour of in-field stables at Eagle Farm, having recently seen the facilities at Fuchu, Tokyo.   Does this suggest that there are infield stables at Fuchu?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/11/2008 12:48 PM I'm sure you know the answer, SW...but certainly some of the major tracks have infield stables.

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From: specialweek Sent: 17/11/2008 1:01 PM The strappers and some trainers use bicycles to get around the underground tunnel system that goes from stables(not inside track) to the parade ring.

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From: Thenamy1 Sent: 17/11/2008 1:27 PM I understand that there are some issues with the Council not wanting any horses stabled in the area.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/11/2008 1:34 PM They're already living at EF and have been in Hendra for 150 years.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/11/2008 1:45 PM From Stallions Daily Bulletin Infield stabling for Eagle Farm According to Brisbane Racing Club chairman Kevin Dixon the development plans for Eagle Farm racecourse include the use of the infield area for stabling. “By constructing stables in the centre we will be able to use the land where the horses are currently housed for more commercial use,” Dixon says. “It’s all about generating more income to provide the best facilities for the racegoer. “It’s a win-win situation for racing. “We have identified an extra 14,000 square metres of land to generate additional revenue. “We are also considering developing an open-floor plan for private boxes and corporate facilities at both Eagle Farm and Doomben.” Dixonadded that it was “important” that the B.R.C. – the product of the merger between the Queensland Turf Club and the Brisbane Turf Club – made the right decisions to capitalise on the benefits resulting from the establishment of the new entity. - Graeme Kelly

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/11/2008 7:05 PM Anyone going badly on the punt and in need of a job?

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From: MagiC** Sent: 29/11/2008 9:24 PM I heard Bob Bentley was applying for the position.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/12/2008 10:44 PM In a wide-reaching interview with Tony Clements on 4TAB this morning, Bob Bentley indicated a changed attitude to in-field stables at Eagle Farm.   Good sense, IMO.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/12/2008 2:19 PM BTC/BRC director Paul Williams and wife Jill look happy after mare Dream Gal who they part-own won at EF recently.     Photo by Graham Potter.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/12/2008 4:45 PM Paul Williams also part-owns another Baldwin-trained mare in CENTINELLE.   She's had a littany of problems, and doesn't get much luck in her races.  One day she won at Royal Ipswich paying $50 plus.   She's a chance in the next from the white box, and is fair odds.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 24/12/2008 10:22 AM Today's C-M reports that current QTC CEO Stephen Ferguson has been appointed inaugural CEO of BRC from a field of 60 applicants.   I think Stephen's in for a busy time.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jan-09, 07:56 PM

Management....maybe move this to Qld Gallops?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jan-12, 11:39 AM

Two Saturday meetings coming up at Eagle Farm on 17th and 24th.

QTC is offering a two-for-one promo to those on their email list.  For price of one entry, two persons get in.

As well, anyone holding a ticket for Queensland Roar games on those dates will be granted free admission to Eagle Farm.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jan-27, 10:59 AM

Brisbane Racing Club Announces Chief Operations Officer

The Brisbane Racing Club Board announced today that they have continued making progress toward establishing the appointment of the Management Team that will help guide the Club through the exciting times presented by the coming years.

Following on from the announcement in December that Mr Stephen Ferguson, the existing Queensland Turf Club CEO, had been appointed CEO of the Brisbane Racing Club (BRC), the Board today announced the appointment of Mr Darren Condon to the role of Chief Operations Officer (COO).

Mr Condon comes to the BRC from his current role leading the Queensland and NT management team of cinema industry leaders, Birch Carroll and Coyle. Early in his career, Mr Condon cut his teeth in the Racing industry with a four year stint as a cadet Steward and Handicapper.

Chairman of the BRC Board, Mr Kevin Dixon, said today “We are extremely pleased to have been able to attract someone of Darren’s expertise to the Brisbane Racing Club. Darren’s experience will be invaluable as we heavily focus on improvement to the way we interact with our customers.”

Mr Condon will report to the CEO and will be responsible for all of the Customer facing aspects of the BRC business. “All our customers, whether Members, Public, Sponsors or Non-Racing Events must value the customer experience with BRC” Dixon said. “ These customers are key to us delivering on our growth and revenue expectations.”

Mr Condon will begin work with BRC on February 16, 2009.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jan-29, 10:06 PM

From AJC.

One would think the NSW guys could come up with an original idea. :unsu

The NSW Gaming and Racing Minister Kevin Greene announced yesterday that discussions had been held with Racing NSW, AJC and STC Chairmen and Chief Executives in relation to appointing an independent person to undertake a feasibility study on the merits of amalgamating the Australian Jockey Club and the Sydney Turf Club.

We support the exploration of all proposals that will deliver uncompromised benefit to the Clubs and thoroughbred racing in NSW.

The terms of reference of the feasibility study are being determined by the AJC and the STC, so we will ensure the best interests of the Club and its members are upheld at all times.

We look forward to working closely with the Minister, Racing NSW and our colleagues at the STC on the preparation and consideration of the merger feasibility study.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Grega9430 on 2009-Jan-30, 08:03 AM

DD, proponents of a merger of the QTC and BTC would have forecast that one of the savings emanating from a merger would have been that instead of paying two CEO's there would only be one. Now with this new appointment it will be one CEO and one COO - basically they were wrong on that score and there will be no saving there.

The fact is they will be wrong on a lot of their other saving forecasts, maybe one receptionist instead of two?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jan-30, 09:45 AM

Grega

First, I'd expect the COO would be paid less than a (second) CEO??

Second, with the significant administrative requirements in the lead-up to the merger, and post-merger, plus the redevelopment of the precinct, the CEO BRC will have more than enough to do without overseeing the day-to-day operations on two racetracks.

Third, I've got no doubt at all that there'll be significant economies-of-scale coming out of the merger:  Marketing, purchasing, temporary labour hire and deployment, infrastructure support, sponsorships, equipment purchase and maintenance, etc etc.  Some will only be realised once the merger is bedded down, and that might be a few years down the track.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Grega9430 on 2009-Jan-30, 10:28 AM

DD,

First, I'd expect that the CEO of the larger merged club would be paid more than either of the two previous CEO's?

Second, were the significant administrative requirements and associated costs factored into the savings analysis. I'd bet they weren't.

Thirdly, I hope so, but in my view these forecast significant savings are overly optimistic, in fact there is a chance that the merged business will perform worse than the two smaller competitive businesses it replaced, I hope not.

 

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jan-30, 10:44 AM

Grega

Quote from: Grega9430 on 2009-Jan-30, 10:28  AM

First, I'd expect that the CEO of the larger merged club would be paid more than either of the two previous CEO's?

I can't answer that one.  You might be right, but you might not be.

Second, were the significant administrative requirements and associated costs factored into the savings analysis. I'd bet they weren't.

Yes there were.  $800,000 - $1.1 mill was shown as possible one-off costs.

Thirdly, I hope so, but in my view these forecast significant savings are overly optimistic, in fact there is a chance that the merged business will perform worse than the two smaller competitive businesses it replaced, I hope not.

Yes, there is a chance of that.  But right now all indications to me are that there are significant financial benefits.

Regardless of what you or I think, the merger was being pushed for by the industry, by the controlling body, by the government.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Jan-30, 10:53 AM

It is just such a sensible move and the mind boggles as to why it didn't happen before this.

It was talked about when we were kids and people would say it just would never be.

Well done to a lot of people but especially to people like Ross(Ascot) who really put in the effort . So it seems from where I stand anyway.  emthup

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jan-30, 11:03 AM

Ascot was merely one of dozens who put their heart and soul into the merger.

Merging was first mooted by QTC board 15 years ago, but BTC told them to go and ...

If one person warrants separation from the crowd it's BILL CARTER - and of course he permanently will hold the credit for saving Doomben from the wreckers.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-12, 06:53 PM

MagiC

I presume it was your good self who freed up this thread.

Thank you.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2009-Apr-12, 06:55 PM

Yes mate, but not sure what has been lost  :confused1:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-12, 07:08 PM

Nothing much - just yesterday's quaddie, with 1 pick each race. :bop:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-12, 07:11 PM

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-12, 07:13 PM

MagiC

What do I do to post an image, such as Westie has done in the opener to Brisbane Racing Selections???

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2009-Apr-12, 07:42 PM

Modify your post that has the attachment and click on the drop down menu that says "Link Inline Image..." and select "inline full attachment" to display it as full size  ;)

And this will be added to your post [attachimg=#] if you are creating a new post, just do the "inline attachment thing" as above.

Also if adding more then one attachment / photo's just add the above tag, but replace the "#" with the corresponding attachement, ie [attachimg=1] [attachimg=2] [attachimg=3]

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Authorized on 2009-Apr-12, 07:45 PM

 :clap2:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Apr-12, 08:42 PM

Nice number plate dd...  emthup   ,I only noticed it yesterday on leaving the races.  Is that your permanent parking spot now?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-12, 08:48 PM

No, no.  I spend some time at home occasionally - and Doomben of course.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Thenamy1 on 2009-Apr-12, 09:54 PM

July 4 should be a good day.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Apr-13, 06:43 AM

Mono

He gets my park at Doomben in a couple of weeks.  I am going to put some nails in the space before I leave though.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-13, 07:35 AM

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2009-Apr-15, 11:33 AM

New BRC development plans

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Post by: Thenamy1 on 2009-Apr-15, 12:19 PM

CM Article

[web]http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,27574,25337020-3102,00.html[/web]

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 03:02 PM

From QRL Chairman:

15 April 2009

Metropolitan racing master plan

The chairman of Queensland Racing Limited (QRL), Mr Bob Bentley, today commended the initiatives demonstrated by the board of the Brisbane Racing Club (BRC) to outline their master plan for the development of the existing facilities at the Eagle Farm and Doomben precincts.

“The board of the BRC has the support of QRL to further develop the concept of this most exciting project for metropolitan racing,” said Mr Bentley.

Mr Bentley went on to outline that the board was keen to obtain a better understanding of the economics of the project and to this end, look forward to receiving an outline of the funding model as soon as it becomes available.  

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Stan Still on 2009-Apr-15, 03:21 PM

I was highly delighted until I read the last paragraph above. Is there no end to this, i would have thought the brain's trust at the new BRC which devised the plan had all the boxes ticked. Looks like they have to hand in their asignments for correction by the headmaster.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Apr-15, 03:23 PM

good ole bumbling bob.....the bloke that was gunna sell both tracks=failed
the bloke that was take dates from doomed-ben and sell it=failed
the very same idiot that has put over 5 mil into benthead parl{caloundra}
the same idiot that is putting over 6 mil into the divided woomba
the same idiot that has offered nothing to gold coast except a sale and a track in a swamp
so what a surprise he is supportive and looking forward to see the funding model?
will he have any left to tip into the major metro world class tracks he attempted to close and failed after he squanders stakeholders futures to the tune of 20 mil at bent-wad{wadham} park for his country training facilty with 150 stables and a rocky past
bob and qrl the joke continues

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 03:26 PM

BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon has already indicated that the project is self-sustaining, requiring no grants from external sources.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 03:44 PM

Any thoughts on the re-shaping of the EF course proper?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Apr-15, 04:38 PM

what does the reshape invove?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2009-Apr-15, 04:39 PM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2009-Apr-15, 04:38  PM

what does the reshape invove?

Looks like a move of the 1000m shute and the home turn DD  :what:

Like the idea of moving the race day stalls ;)

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Apr-15, 04:45 PM

Looks Ok to me although the plan doesn't show barrier positions and the existing short course shute looks different.... better or worse?

The race day stalls are they being restored to the rear of the existing betting ring where they used to be when I was a boy? And any improvements to the betting ring  planned ?

Reading Thenamy's post Readers'comments Scott seems to think there's going to be a housing commission ghetto.Can't have that. emthdown emthdown

Bob's comments are what should be expected He wants to see the detail and so he should.  emthup

We don't want another BrisCon. :clap2:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 05:09 PM

The 1000 m chute has been moved west, and comes onto the course proper at a sharper angle.  This means a greater part of the race is run on a bend.  The home turn has been extended to the east a tad, thereby lengthening the straight.

Re-configuring the 1000m start allows the land area on the Nudgee Rd-Mein St corner to be better utilised.  Current thoughts are for a licensed club, including Hamilton Bowls Club.

In the back straight, the 1600 m start will be in the north-west corner, with a straight run then to the 1000 m turn.  The 1400m start will be on the same straight run.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 05:15 PM

Note that the construction of three tunnels removes the need for any track crossing by horse, humans, or vehicles.

One tunnel is on the plans for Dbn.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 05:16 PM

Further info on the BRC website:

http://www.brc.com.au/

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Kato on 2009-Apr-15, 05:38 PM

On the surface this all appears promising DD.

Tunnels have got to be a step in the right direction eliminating the dreaded crossings.

In your view will it be better for QLD racing & trainers in general?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Apr-15, 07:22 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 05:16  PM

Further info on the BRC website:

http://www.brc.com.au/

After reading this I have to give it the thumbs up  emthup

Very comprehensive outline   emthup

 Maybe a bit ambitious expecting to get the green light for an hotel unless its low rise which probably woudn't be viable commercially and locals mightn't be too keen .

Seeing Campbell Newman all smiles on the TV news tonight might be a sign of spadework done. :rolleyes:
No need for Sciacca and Mackenroth while he's in the chair. :clap2:

One thing missing is refurbishing the toilets at EF they are shocking imo emthdown

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: InJapan5 on 2009-Apr-15, 07:33 PM

It all looks good to me too!   emthup

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Apr-15, 07:37 PM

All sounds very positive and hope I'm still around to see it's completion in 10 -15 years.

Wonder how many of the present BRC committee will be a part of the deal when its all finished?

dd I'd expect your privy to what's happening on the first race day of the BRC?  

It would be nice to see a race named in honour of Jimmy Atkins which could be programmed in every year at about the same date as the official first race meeting.

With the official date being 4th July ( American Independance Day) there would have to be Fireworks.

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Apr-15, 07:44 PM

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Apr-15, 07:46 PM

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 07:53 PM

Quote from: Kato on 2009-Apr-15, 05:38  PM

On the surface this all appears promising DD.

Tunnels have got to be a step in the right direction eliminating the dreaded crossings.

In your view will it be better for QLD racing & trainers in general?

Kato

Tunnels will be in the early stages.  These are (obviously) necessary to open up the infield for stabling and parking, etc.  Getting race-day traffic off the adjacent streets will be well received by residents.  The infield stabling will contribute to reduction of early-morning horse movements, and is another plus for (the majority of) locals.

As to whether it's improving the lot for "QLD racing & trainers in general", I think many pages could be written on that.  Some key points as I see it:

1.  Two of the  best three grass tracks in Qld are locked in for the foreseeable future.

2.  The location of the precinct is as good as we could ask for in a capital city: near the airport, near major road transport arteries, flanked by railways, on the cooler side of town, adjacent to some future population growth areas (Portside, etc).

3.  There's a large body of racing people who currently live near the racecourses - and wanna keep living near the racecourses.  Their futures are now clear.

4.  The training facilities will be greatly enhanced, partly due to the increased population of horses in training (yet to be determined, but could be up to 800), and the development of the infield facilities.  (Trainers now based on EF continue to extoll the benefits of having all manner of training aids in their backyard.)

5.  The racetrack itself will be made as safe as it can be for the horse.

6.  Raceday horse movements on and off the course will be more efficient and safer.

7.  Improved on-course facilities will go a long way to attracting a new racing crowd to the track.  These people want day-long sit-down spots with a view of the track and top-shelf catering.  (This doesn't help the trainers directly, but it will continue to expose racing to potential new owners.)

Anyway, they're a few thoughts from the top of my scone.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 08:15 PM

mono

The marketing teams from BTC/QTC are working hard to make 4 July something to remember.  Don't tell us you've got a free lunch invite to the Capalaba dogs or something of that nature. :unsu 

As for naming of races, that's yet to be firmed up.  Your suggestion is noted.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Apr-15, 09:02 PM

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Apr-15, 09:03 PM

A couple of forumites were there today

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Apr-15, 09:04 PM

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Apr-15, 09:08 PM

seeing bob the knob MIA  and this massive announcement with no QRL={NING NONGS INC]AKA FAWLTe towers}funding at all.....shows to the industry as a whole how much of a diviing despot pariah he has been....hey bobby and your boy porky all the best at bent-wad.....and to think bob was gunna try and close and sell both and head to goodna next to the prisons.....bobby boy why wont you just go away and take dribblin bill the labor party godfather with you ...?reason? because todays announcement makes you look as stupid you are.....fool :baby: :bop: :sleep:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Apr-15, 09:09 PM

And one for Gratlog below....That's Amy on the left and Mitchell on the right

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Apr-15, 09:10 PM

 :beer: hey bob and we all know you or one of your mullets read this forum ask yourself where i the love....BRO! :love: :love: :love:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Apr-15, 09:10 PM

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: westie on 2009-Apr-15, 09:11 PM

Quote from: Ascot on 2009-Apr-15, 09:03  PM

A couple of forumites were there today

No names please

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 09:12 PM

Ascot

Get one of the kids to show ya how to scale down images.  It only took me about 10 tries. :sad:

Re those two forumites, I'd prefer the red box over the blue any time. :stop:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: westie on 2009-Apr-15, 09:13 PM

Ascot
When taking snaps for publication it's always a good idea for to shoot off a few, you can always delete the crap oh and as DD says crop / resize the images ;)

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Apr-15, 09:15 PM

Thanks Westie.

DD at least the bloke from Doomben is better looking.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-15, 09:17 PM

Ascot

Well, I think when age difference is taken into account, EF wins in a canter. :chin:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Apr-15, 09:44 PM

Ascot I hope your Kiwi boss( Malcolm) has organised a right royal send off for you, JWP, and all the other BTC directors who have done a great job in holding the "fort" together .

I'm sure a BBQ could be organised by the Cleveland Mafia, maybe even at the Capalaba dogs if it suits.   :lol:  :yay: :bdn: :drinks:as a big  :thankyou:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Thenamy1 on 2009-Apr-15, 10:01 PM

The plans and the website look great.

However "Can Do" was keeping his cards close to his chest on the news tonight. A project of this size would be expected to attract some opposition from locals. No doubt the traffic, green space and social amenity drums will be beat.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Apr-16, 06:38 AM

Thanks Ascot   emthup

Looks like a good day was had by all.

A little extra would be to get traffic lights so us peasants can get out onto Nudgee Rd . Especially if we want to turn right out of Mein St.

  Anyway only a minor thing and it all looks good. All those jobs that are created will be fantastic

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Kato on 2009-Apr-16, 06:44 AM

DD thanks for you views "off the top of your scon" last night in regard to the impact the upgrade will have on all concerned.

It certainly looks like it's a step in the right direction   emthup

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Apr-16, 08:48 AM

Odd timing

THE just-unveiled $1.2 billion plan to transform Eagle Farm and Doomben courses into Australia's best horse racing precinct is ambitious to say the least. It is also poorly timed. Years of industry in-fighting means yesterday's announcement comes at a point in the economic cycle when investors have little appetite for such grand developments. The promoters are unfazed, claiming elements of the scheme should be ready to proceed just in time for the next upturn. In summary, a promising start, but no sure thing

Just a splash of cold water from today's editorial in the Courier Mail. :/

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Apr-16, 08:50 AM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2009-Apr-16, 08:48  AM

Odd timing

THE just-unveiled $1.2 billion plan to transform Eagle Farm and Doomben courses into Australia's best horse racing precinct is ambitious to say the least. It is also poorly timed. Years of industry in-fighting means yesterday's announcement comes at a point in the economic cycle when investors have little appetite for such grand developments. The promoters are unfazed, claiming elements of the scheme should be ready to proceed just in time for the next upturn. In summary, a promising start, but no sure thing

Just a splash of cold water from today's editorial in the Courier Mail. :/

A blink and you would have missed it.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-16, 10:01 AM

Let's hope someone tells the "Editor" that racing is one of our major industries that deserves continuing support after years of neglect.  The BRC plan does that.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Apr-16, 12:09 PM

spot on years of neglect and standover tactics by one bob benthead and his nancy organisation that is qrl pty ltd :no:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Proud Knight on 2009-Apr-16, 02:45 PM

Geez Teddy can you give it a rest ? Your not a bad bloke, but what good are you doing anyone by going on about your hatred for Bob Bentley and QRL ? You have the ability to work it into any thread relating to racing in Queensland. You'd want to blame him if the pies were cold and the beer warm, at any racetrack in Queensland.

He did have a bit to do with BRC coming together didnt he? Or did everyone come to the table williingly ??

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-16, 03:49 PM

Anyone who's interested in becoming a member of the NEW BRC might like to consider joining one of the Brisbane Clubs in the next couple of weeks.

Why?

Well if ya a member of either BTC or QTC at 30 April, you'll be invited to join BRC.  The important point is that you're assured of favourable subscription rates and benefits locked in for the next three years ($330 Annual Sub, with 3 Guest Passes, parking, various reciprocities, etc.)

PLUS

You and your guest will have member/guest privileges for the upcoming 2009 Carnival Days at both Doomben and Eagle Farm (worth almost a grand).

PLUS

BTC offers generous pro-rata annual subs for the current year.

Worth a thought, IMO.  emthup

Feel free to PM me if ya need additional info.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Apr-16, 04:06 PM

facts are facts are they not pk? thats what hurts benthead the most the TRUTH.....truth is most/the majority of stakeholders see him/treat him as the dictator imbecile{parliments words not mine=despised despot pariah}
he is.......he has done not a good thing and if you think he is the reason the brc formed you live in the very same land as he and his ning-nongs at qrl...that land is called noddy land....did he not propose/try to sell both tracks and head to goodna with his devolper mates? :love:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Apr-16, 04:54 PM

So does that mean if your a member of the BTC and the QTC you get an all up of 6 years favourable subscription fees. :thumbsup:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-16, 05:04 PM

Stop being a pest, mono.

Ya get the best of both worlds - and ya knew that when ya voted YES. :rant:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Apr-17, 08:01 AM

not a word about BRC from Phil Purser.

?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Apr-17, 08:24 AM

 :fishing:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Apr-17, 09:25 AM

Phil been busy doing his sectionals...Give him a chance.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Apr-17, 09:39 AM

Quote from: monologue on 2009-Apr-17, 09:25  AM

Phil been busy doing his sectionals...Give him a chance.

No sectionals when it's wet Mono don't you read the fine print.  :lol:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: barry baker on 2009-Apr-17, 07:45 PM

I really fear for the the person that follows Phil. Like the saying goes " "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" :no1: prize fool.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-17, 10:23 PM

Poor old Phil.  He just can't bear the thought of punters looking forward to having a bet at Eagle Farm.

Tonight he rabbits on about the field sizes:  12-21-20-19-12-13-18 and 23

Now even the BIGGEST dill in racing knows that emergencies are NOT runners unless there are scratchings.

So with that in mind, the MAXIMUM field sizes are 12-16-15-19-12-13-18 and 18.  (In other words a small difference of 15 runners!)

For someone who prides himself in his accuracy, blah, blah, ya'd think he'd know this stuff that's taught in racing kindergarten.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Apr-18, 07:22 AM

I did meet Phil at Rocklea one day and he seems a OK bloke, but gee he does come come across as a goose in his web site sometimes  :biggrin:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: barry baker on 2009-Apr-18, 07:38 PM

Quote from: gratlog on 2009-Apr-18, 07:22  AM

I did meet Phil at Rocklea one day and he seems a OK bloke, but gee he does come come across as a goose in his web site sometimes   :biggrin:  

Thats the sad part. He's doing a good service to Queensland Racing in general, but his website turns into a onesided blog sometimes. :no:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-18, 07:46 PM

Everyone's got the right to be stupid at times, but some abuse the privilege.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Apr-19, 10:43 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-18, 07:46  PM

Everyone's got the right to be stupid at times, but some abuse the privilege.

That's a great line ,wish I had thought of it first.

Good One dubbles  emthup


First time at the races for Yonks and blow me down who did I bump into.

My mate Phil, flushed with pleasure after a long serious discussion with BRC CEO Stephen Ferguson which hopefully has  cleared the air between them, which I gather   has been a bit hostile sometimes.

No doubt due to an oversight Phil didn't get an invitation to the public launch of the planned revamp and was seriously upset  at being left out.

Now that this misunderstanding  has been rectified  I noticed Phil  was armed with all  BRC brochures and coloured material on the proposed revamp of the racing precinct.

So it looks like all systems go . :thumbsup:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-19, 10:51 AM

Oh, that sounds great.

I bet Phil will have trouble accepting that all those brain-dead people who run racing could come up with such a concept.

Look forward to the critical review.

But I'd expect Phil would design racetracks before most of us are out of bed.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-20, 03:34 PM

Further to my earlier post regarding the advantages of joining the Brisbane Racing Club, it's worth considering the value of reciprocity afforded by the major Australian race clubs (AJC, STC, VRC, MRC, SAJC, PR).

Based on existing arrangements with QTC, it is expected that BRC members will be asked to pay their course admission costs at (say) Randwick, and will then be entitled to one (maybe two) Members' Reserve tickets.  Major variation is for VRC's Spring Carnival where BRC members will be offered Members' Reserve tickets at the going rate.

Well worth thinking about if ya plan to attend the interstate carnivals.

Several forumites have already contacted me by PM.  Happy to assist in any way I can.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Da Judge on 2009-Apr-20, 03:52 PM

DD,any reciprocal arrangements with royal ascot?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-20, 04:00 PM

Well, Judge.....I dunno if ya asking in all sincerity, but I'll presume you are.

In the past, the QTC has certainly assisted members visiting Ascot with a letter of intro.  It worked for me, and I know others have been given privileges, as well.  (BRC would do the same.)  Whether you'd get a seat beside the Queen, well, I'd need to get back on that.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Da Judge on 2009-Apr-20, 04:02 PM

passport applications are being lodged as we speak

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Post by: Thenamy1 on 2009-Apr-20, 04:13 PM

DD, an important question on the merger - Will there be an united front on the Rum & Cola situation ?

At the moment it is Inner Circle & Coke at Doomben and Bundy & Pepsi at EF.   :)

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-20, 05:38 PM

Just one of many commercial matters to be worked through, Thenamy.  I'd expect the contracts have clauses to cover the situation we're facing.  With goodwill on both sides, I'mI'd be sure that an amicable arrangement can be reached.

As to the long-term offerings...that's a matter for people other than myself.

Personally, I'm a COKE addict - and very pleased that the price is pretty good at present. :love:  It's even better when it has some flavour added.  I can survive on Pepsi Max, though.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gallopers on 2009-Apr-20, 07:38 PM

Personally, I'm a COKE addict
theres help around the corner DD http://www.druginfo.adf.org.au/

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-21, 10:10 AM

gallopers

Did I give any indication I wanted help? :wacko:

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2009-Apr-21, 10:21 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-21, 10:10  AM

Did I give any indication I wanted help?

Most addicts don't want help DD, the hardest part is admitting you are an addict, so you are half way to recovery ......   :biggrin:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-21, 10:24 AM

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Apr-26, 11:51 AM

BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon will be interviewed on 4TAB on Tuesday morning.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-May-03, 09:35 PM

Existing members of BTC and QTC have received offers to join the Brisbane Racing Club.

Another step to completion of the merger process.  emthup

Members should note that their reply to the offer must be received by end June, otherwise they lose their rights to the benefits outlined in the memorandum.

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Post by: Authorized on 2009-May-03, 09:38 PM

Was the shit fight between these two clubs, as intense as it has been in here tonight ?   :sweat:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-May-03, 09:43 PM

I was unaware of any "shit-fight" between the two clubs, Matt.  They've been competitors for many years.  They've shared resources, assisted one another on request, etc.

It DID suit some media people to play one Club against the other.  They're now disappointed that they've lost an easy target.

There was a brouhaha in one Club over the merger process, but in the end a clear majority was in favour of the merger.

Now it's full steam ahead.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-May-04, 09:58 AM

Bart Sinclair reports in today's CM that Brisbane Turf Club has terminated their long-standing sponsorship agreement with City Pacific.

The BTC's prestigous home will now be referred to as:

DOOMBEN

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-May-07, 07:12 AM

BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon scored a win at GC yesterday with Encosta 2yo IMPULSIVE DREAM.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-May-07, 07:15 AM

By Mike O'Connor in yesterday's C-M:

Brisbane Racing Club's Stephen Ferguson quick out of the gates

HE DESCRIBES it as Gaza Strip mentality, that exchange of decidedly unfriendly fire that ranged across Nudgee Rd between Eagle Farm racecourse on one side and Doomben racecourse on the other.

As chief executive officer of Eagle Farm's Queensland Turf Club, Stephen Ferguson did his time in the trenches in the turf club wars, emerging with no visible scars to become the inaugural CEO of the Brisbane Racing Club, that progeny born of the union between the QTC and Doomben's Brisbane Turf Club.

"Since the merger we're not acting in competition, doing the same things twice and being silly about things," he says.

"Our marketing departments are joined at the hip now and the Gaza Strip mentality that existed for a while is completely gone.

"Once it was realised how much things would be improved, there was a resounding vote in favour."

Ferguson's parents ran racehorses in rural New South Wales and he grew up with a love of thoroughbred racing. He has been general manager, corporate affairs, for Racing NSW, executive officer of Provincial Race Clubs Association of NSW and a stipendiary steward with the Australian Jockey Club.

He has put down roots in the four years he has been in Brisbane and faces what he concedes are challenging times.

"Our competition is in the south," he says as we walk across to Eagle Farm's old totalisator building. "We want the best horses and best races up here and we want to get more people back to the races.

"We're right up there now with prize money. Sydney prize money is about $75,000 a race. We'll have at least a couple of $75,000 races here on any day and all the others are around $50,000. One day we'll match them, but our immediate goal is to put a trainer in two minds as to whether he comes to Sydney or Brisbane.

"This," he says opening the door to the old tote building, "is one of Brisbane's best kept secrets."

I remember the building. I'd stand in front of it as a child and wait while my grandmother lined up at the windows to place her bets.

The women who sat at those windows taking bets are gone, the long building where they sat now floored and lined with polished timber and used for functions, its walls adorned with racing memorabilia, while taking up most of the upper level are the intricate gears, pulleys and levers of the computing machine used to calculate the totalisator odds.

We walk outside and take in the lush green of the course, being prepared for the premium winter carnival events and what Ferguson says this year will be the grand final of Brisbane racing, the running of the AAMI Stradbroke Handicap and the Brisbane Cup on June 6.

The punters, he says, have made it plain they want better facilities, with a day at the races now being seen more as a social experience than as an opportunity to bet.

For Ferguson to succeed, he knows he has to get more people through the gates.

It has long been a joke among Sydney racing journalists, he says, that so little has changed in the Brisbane racing scene that if explorer John Oxley revisited the city, the only place he'd recognise would be Eagle Farm racecourse.

"With this redevelopment we'll end up with better facilities that will hopefully drive people back to the races, so they'll be able to come to the races and book a table at a restaurant and come for the day rather than having to stand out on the grass," he says.

"We've been slow to change the way we do things. That's the biggest challenge – we are out of the blocks late and it's a conservative game, but we have things such as a champagne bar overlooking the mounting yard now, which is fantastic," he says. "Our challenge is to increase the exposure."

He rejects suggestions that turf clubs are seen as bastions of elitism.

"Membership of Brisbane Racing Club will be $320 a year. That gets you into 50 race meetings, but the thing is that anyone can buy a ticket into the Members' Stand. They can pay their $15 through the gate and another $25 and they're in the Members."

I ask what's changed since he first walked on to a racecourse and he pauses before replying.

"The essence of the game is still the same," he says. "That culture is still there. It's still a place where you'll see a Rhodes scholar getting advice from a bloke who never went to school. That hasn't changed.

"What has changed has been the shift away from betting as a reason to come to the races. Eagle Farm used to have 200 bookmakers and now we're down to 12 or 15. The internet and Sky Channel have given people a reason to stay away. They can just sit in a club or pub and bet all day."

Also gone, he says, are the "old days" when punters could be excused for thinking that not every horse raced to its merits.

"We have nine television cameras around the track – one every 200m – and there are six or eight highly trained blokes sitting in a room watching a dozen horses and getting betting information from around the country and they understand the racing patterns of each horse.

"If punters don't think they're getting a fair go, they'll turn away. I'd rather bet on a horse race than a footy game. There's a huge amount of regulation here these days," he says.

The biggest threat to the industry, he says, are the telephone and internet bookmakers in Darwin.

"They're a real concern to the game. They bet what they call 'best tote'. They'll bet you the best tote price around the country. There's billions of dollars going up there," he says.

I ask if he is daunted at the prospect of getting a new turf club up and running, overseeing the redevelopment of two racecourses, getting more punters through the gates and battling the tide of internet betting.

"It's challenging," he says, "but it's bloody exciting.

This is the grandest master plan of any course in the country."

Ferguson may be a relative newcomer to Queensland but he knows his history and is determined to use heritage as marketing leverage.

"The first race meeting was held here 144 years ago and Queensland's 150 years old and the Stradbroke is having its 119th running. I don't know many other venues still being used for the same purpose they were set up for almost 150 years ago.

"And remember," he says as we part. "All men are equal on the turf and under it."

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Post by: gallopers on 2009-May-07, 07:33 AM

bump the midweek prisemoney up to $20,000 with $13,000 to the winner   emthup  
im talking just wed city meetings.
that would entice more owners to race horses in qld.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-May-07, 07:36 AM

Most of the City mid-weeks are rather full as it is.

Would be a moot point whether adding a few more NSW steeds would alter betting interest significantly on those days.

Qld is working with a limited prizemoney pot.   QRL have got the mix pretty well right, I'd reckon.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-May-07, 09:30 AM

whoa! dd.....not a bad call except for country stakeholders id agree and of course bob's blinded feathering of the b-grade unwanted shit-thetics......roll up roll up says bobby boy as he pisses stakeholders prizemoney on his own colloseum :bop:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-May-07, 12:53 PM

teddy

It's a reality of life that there's no room on the TAB schedule - Qld's or other's - for additional country race meetings these days.

However, that doesn't mean I am not totally supportive of the role of Qld country racing in our wonderful industry.

IMO, country meetings must be funded, and to a greater degree than they are at present.  The trick is to find a model that won't detract from the TAB meetings (which, as you know, produce the prizemoney for those meetings).

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-May-07, 12:56 PM

In my earlier post, I was speaking with my long-held view that the on-going battle to get more multi-million dollar races in Australia is wasteful of resources.  I'd prefer to see a few thousand added to races down the ladder a little.  emthup

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-May-07, 08:36 PM

dd you seem to miss that the bob/qrl rorted/hijacked the calendar and tab circuit--why has no qld racing on a MONDAY....except for public holidays!?
why for in this rorted racing state do we not race on a monday when our main programming competitors nsw and vic do race
i.e bumbling loser bob and his qrl fools clueless
what about the clubs they stole all the fridays from...kilcoy,esk,beauie and dalby---them first then closed em
followed by rocky mackay and townsville fridays to the great south-east
anyways you look at it bob and his merry men are thieving rorting incompetants of which this state has never seen the like before or probally again,.....hi porky

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: AA sponser on 2009-May-07, 11:53 PM

Teddy Teddy  you cannot be serious when you describe them as "incompetants" when you are incompetent :wavecry:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-May-08, 06:19 AM

you still working at the smelly suckhole palace aa/mc?
hows them egg on bobbys face omelletes going pee-wee? are you still the "swedish" chef:clap2: :bop:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-May-08, 09:27 AM

teddy

Dunno about Monday racing. 

I think there'd be a view among industry participants that they need a day off, and Monday seems the best.  As a punter, I need a day off (at least) to clear my brain.

However, I have no doubt that the Saturday night SC meeting would attract more turnover on a Monday arve than in its current slot.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-14, 12:53 PM

The BRC Administration offices in the public grandstand at EF are close to completion.

Will be all up and running when the new club kicks off on July 1.

Members should get ready for a big inauguration day on July 4.  Mark ya calendars.  emthup

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Jun-14, 09:59 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-14, 12:53  PM

The BRC Administration offices in the public grandstand at EF are close to completion.

Will be all up and running when the new club kicks off on July 1.

Members should get ready for a big inauguration day on July 4.  Mark ya calendars.  emthup

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I've cut my Darwin trip back by a day just to be there dd.....

When should we receive our new badges?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-14, 10:17 PM

Membership cards will be produced when the majority of invitations to join have been returned.  God-willing they'll be ready for the big day, but we have ya money.   :lol:   

Seriously, existing badges can be used if there's any delay.  Plus, you're well known. :)

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Jun-15, 08:56 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-14, 10:17  PM

Membership cards will be produced when the majority of invitations to join have been returned.  God-willing they'll be ready for the big day, but we have ya money.    :lol:    

Seriously, existing badges can be used if there's any delay.  Plus, you're well known. :)

Still pondering that Statement.    :lol:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2009-Jun-15, 08:58 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-14, 10:17  PM

Plus, you're well known

So was Ned Kelly .... lol

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-17, 08:09 PM

Current BTC Chairman and BRC director, Wayne Milner, this afternoon announced his resignation from both positions.

Wayne indicated he is seeking a position as director on Qld Racing Limited.  (Race club directors are ineligible.)

Wayne has steered BTC through turbulent waters in the past year or so, and was one of several key players who placated the nay-sayers in the BTC-QTC merger debate.  emthup

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Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Jun-17, 08:13 PM

looks like ho knows the outcome....pity for the poor commoners!
maybe that  fool bentley after his latest loss of bent-wad will flush himself down the poop chute at the deagon toilets :wavecry:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Thenamy1 on 2009-Jun-17, 10:08 PM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2009-Jun-17, 08:13  PM

looks like ho knows the outcome....pity for the poor commoners!
maybe that  fool bentley after his latest loss of bent-wad will flush himself down the poop chute at the deagon toilets :wavecry:

Ted I would like to see you put together a collection of your finest work, so we can nominate you for this:

Quote

The 2009 Queensland Racing Horse of the Year and Industry Awards night is
fast approaching.

Queensland Racing is now calling for media nominations (print, photo, radio or television) for the 2009 Media Award.

Nominations close on Monday, July 13, 2009.

To be eligible the entry must have been published/aired during the 2008/09 racing season.

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Post by: Proud Knight on 2009-Jun-18, 01:35 PM

  :lol:

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Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Jun-24, 04:22 PM

Which other courses, apart from Eagle Farm and Doomben, will race under the banner of the Brisbane Racing Club, if any?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Jun-25, 05:35 AM

OL

The BRC is a new company that results from the merger of the BTC (Doomben Racecourse) and QTC (Eagle Farm Racecourse).

That's the simplicity of it.  One Club, two tracks.

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Post by: Stan Still on 2009-Jun-25, 09:11 AM

interesting, there's been no media statement on QR's website regarding this important resignation. perhaps people might put 2 and 2 together and come up with some probing results. there might be a few more issues regarding this obvious appointment come to light in next few days. :clap2:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Proud Knight on 2009-Jun-25, 11:27 AM

Quote from: Stan Still on 2009-Jun-25, 09:11  AM

interesting, there's been no media statement on QR's website regarding this important resignation. perhaps people might put 2 and 2 together and come up with some probing results. there might be a few more issues regarding this obvious appointment come to light in next few days. :clap2:

Stan, did you go to the same school as Teddy by any chance ?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Stan Still on 2009-Jun-25, 11:46 AM

cant recall anyone by that name at nudgee college in my time

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Jun-25, 06:18 PM

Some good photos came out of the final race day run by the QTC on Wed.  You can see them at http://horseracingonly.com.au/

One well known racing personality was shamelessly harassed by the on course announcer, indeed he was ridiculed for having a Lee Marvin (Cat Balou) style silver tipped nose.  Allright the nose was twice the normal size, bordering on Pinnochio grade.  You don't need 10x50's to see it.  The truth is the poor man dragged himself from his sick bed to celebrate the day with friends.  That's him 2nd from the right in the Committee Bar photo.

I'd claim absolutely no shame in a little rhinoplasty to improve appearances if required. 

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Prince Frolic on 2009-Jun-26, 02:33 PM

There are not enough "rhino's" for that! Ascot!

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-28, 11:01 AM

Some of the features of the planned gala opening for the BRC at Eagle Farm on Saturday next include:

$4 admission between 10 am and noon.

$1 pies, hot chips, hot dogs and soft drinks all day.

Free activities for kids

The running of the Queensland Cup (3200 m).  emthup

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Jun-28, 11:32 AM

I see they cancelled the car show at Eagle Farm for today.

What happened with that I wonder?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: barry baker on 2009-Jun-28, 01:01 PM

Lawn areas rated a Heavy 10.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Jun-29, 01:17 PM

Be interesting to see how their new website comes up on Wed

http://www.brc.com.au/

If they want to attract younger people this will be a important tool imo.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-30, 02:01 PM

BRC members received their new passes this week.

For $330 - half-price if ya 65 or over - ya get a member's pass plus 3 guests for around 100 race meetings a year.

AJC members pay $400 for a member's pass.  Guest passes cost an additional $280 (first one) then $430 for the 2nd.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Jun-30, 04:28 PM

Nothing in my mailbox this week DD.  Will go in shorts, T shirt and thongs in the public stand on Sat, just like the old days.  Or do I have to wear covered shoes now? 

Who did I upset?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-30, 04:45 PM

The week isn't over yet.  :lol:

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Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Jun-30, 05:35 PM

Quote from: Ascot on 2009-Jun-30, 04:28  PM

Will go in shorts, T shirt and thongs in the public stand on Sat, just like the old days.  Or do I have to wear covered shoes now?

Wear anything apart from THAT hat

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Post by: Sporty on 2009-Jun-30, 05:40 PM

Quote from: OldLarsy on 2009-Jun-30, 05:35  PM

Wear anything apart from THAT hat

I wouldn't mind a pup out of it... :p

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jun-30, 08:44 PM

237 nominations for 9 races at the BRC's inaugural meeting on Saturday.

This will be a race:

BRISBANE TOWN PLATE MAIDEN PLATE (1400 METRES)
Of $100000. 1st $64000, 2nd $20000, 3rd $10000, 4th $4000, 5th $2000.
MAIDEN. Set Weights.
Field Limit: 18 + 5 EM

1 PERCHANCE Kevin Moses 2 56.5   
2 AMERICAN GANGSTER John Holcombe 3 56.5   
3 TROUBLED Michael Lakey 6 56.5   
4 IDDI Tina Cotsiopoulos 7 56.5   
5 SIR MOSSMAN Jon Walk 10 56.5   
6 KENTON Adam Spitzer 19 56.5   
7 FEAR 'N' LOATHING (NZ) Terry McCarthy 30 56.5   
8 DIVE BOMBER Terry Catip =36 56.5   
9 CAPE SILVER Bevan & Richard Laming 43 56.5   
10 INDY GO GOLD (NZ) Rochelle Pereira 4 56   
11 REVE D'OR Bryan Guy =8 56   
12 SOCIAL CAT Pat Duff =8 56   
13 SHERE KHAN (NZ) Danny Williams 11 56   
14 NAMSARAI Anthony Cummings =12 56   
15 SHOWBOAT Darren Bell 18 56   
16 BOOTOOLOO Kelly Schweida =20 56   
17 ESTRELLITO Maryann Thexton =20 56   
18 SIR EMLAND Maxwell Land =22 56   
19 FLYBEFREE Steele Ryan =24 56   
20 GIGANDRA Brian Wakefield =32 56   
21 RATANGA Gordon Yorke =39 56   
22 REPORT FOR DUTY Noel J Doyle 41 56   
23 SUGAR CUBE Norm Hilton 15 54.5   
24 NOTHING COMPARES Danny J Bougoure 16 54.5   
25 CAPTAIN SONADOR Roger Milne =24 54.5   
26 FAST LOVER Maryann Thexton =24 54.5   
27 KISS KISS Jim Atkins =32 54.5   
28 LADY SARAH Sandra O'Sullivan =32 54.5   
29 PANNINGEN Brian Smith =32 54.5   
30 CASA FUNDADA Trevor Whittington =36 54.5   
31 STRIBLING Bill Trimble 42 54.5   
32 SACRISTA Anthony Cummings 5 54   
33 BULLION BAY Gerald Ryan =12 54   
34 ALTISSIMO Harold Norman 17 54   
35 LAUXES Robert Heathcote =22 54   
36 I'MONTOP Reg Mackay =24 54   
37 JESS SAR BELLE Brian Wakefield =24 54   
38 LOCHHEAD Keith T Smith =36 54   
39 MOONLIGHT HUSSEY Gillian Heinrich 1 52.5   
40 ALBERTON PARK (NZ) Liam Birchley 14 52.5   
41 SAVOIA Paul Messara =24 52.5   
42 SMALL MINDS Jason Coyle 31 52.5   
43 OUR DAUGHTERS Wayne Wilkes =39 52.5   
44 PINPOINT ACCURACY Kelso Wood 44 52.5  

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jul-01, 07:06 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY

 :beer: :beer: :beer:

And long may you prosper
and continue to provide fans of Brisbane racing
with BIG fields, competitive racing and a great day out.

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Post by: InTheKnow on 2009-Jul-01, 11:32 AM

The biggest change to racing in Brisbane happens today with the launch of the Brisbane Racing Club.

The new club brings together the Brisbane Turf Club and the Queensland Turf Club to form one exciting new entity.

A new website has been launched for the Brisbane Racing Club www.brc.com.au.
 (http://www.brc.com.au.)

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Jul-06, 05:43 AM

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Jul-06, 05:45 AM

The finish line at Eagle Farm is now "dressed" in the new BRC frock.  :no1:

A bit different to Flemington but at least you can see the finish post.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Jul-06, 11:41 AM

How's the nose Ascot?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Jul-06, 11:47 AM

.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: specialweek on 2009-Jul-06, 02:43 PM

It would be good to have a look at the new site..........

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Jul-06, 04:05 PM

It is there SW ...I've seen it with my own eyes, but just not today.

Probably in for some maintenance or having dd's face emblazoned on the front page

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Jul-07, 07:21 AM

Mono

I am still scaring small children at the shops, but not for much longer.  The plastic surgeon took a look yesty and smiled.  Bandages come of in a week and I will look nothing like those grainy images the police currently have of me holding up Seven Eleven stores.

Next year I think I will have the chin tuck and then the frown lines done.  You should think about that yourself ya know.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Jul-07, 09:12 AM

Good to hear Ascot...and by the way you did look at least 10 years younger .

Mrs Mono loves me the way I am....all 15 1/2 stone of me.   :yes:

Probably not the right thread for this but interesting info re melanomas can be pre determined in  DNA.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2009-Jul-07, 08:36 PM

DD

What are you trying to pull with the new Bris Metro Precinct photo.  Doomben has been Photoshopped!!!!!  The inside semaphore is gone as is the trackwork clocker's stand just inside the training tracks.  Does this preempt the Master Plan?

If that goes we will HAVE to rely on JR Sectionals.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Jul-07, 09:03 PM

Just some minor demolition work, Ascot. :stop:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 08:00 AM

From The Courier-Mail:

Doomben's thong flip-flop by Brisbane Racing Club

THE Brisbane Racing Club has relaxed its stance on the great Australian thong with Doomben declared a flip flop-friendly zone again after a three-year ban.

Under the newly formed Brisbane Racing Club banner (which now manages both major Brisbane race tracks) any form of footwear is welcome in the public precincts at Doomben or Eagle Farm racecourses.

The new rule comes after a bizarre ban on thongs in 2005. Memorably, thong-wearing punters were turned away at the gates – causing a mini-uproar of sorts.

Brisbane Racing Club CEO Stephen Ferguson said it made sense.

 "The Brisbane Racing Club is not about to quash the glamour of racing, but for the punters who are seeking a more relaxed day at the track, we can offer that too," he said.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: triple7 on 2009-Aug-04, 08:02 AM

Well at least you can go to both tracks now DD.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 08:07 AM

Yes, you're right.   :lol:  

RED thongs for EF, BLUE for Doomben.

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Post by: monologue on 2009-Aug-04, 08:22 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 08:07  AM

Yes, you're right.    :lol:   

RED thongs for EF, BLUE for Doomben.

dd triples is talking about the ones you wear on your feet.   :lol:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Aug-04, 08:32 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 08:00  AM

The new rule comes after a bizarre ban on thongs in 2005. Memorably, thong-wearing punters were turned away at the gates – causing a mini-uproar of sorts.

I went to Nothin' Leica Dane's Victoria Derby wearing Thongs, Stubbies (complete with torn back pocket) and t-shirt, basically the same way I have dress 90% of the times i've been to the track.
Never heard they had that dress rule in place up there, and all I can say is they're lucky I haven't visited since 2005

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Wenona on 2009-Aug-04, 08:36 AM

What, you never go in winter?

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2009-Aug-04, 09:14 AM

Quote from: Wenona on 2009-Aug-04, 08:36  AM

What, you never go in winter?

He's only been 10 times, and one of those times he wore a hat  :p

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Aug-04, 09:26 AM

Quote from: Wenona on 2009-Aug-04, 08:36  AM

What, you never go in winter?

Yeah the 10%   :biggrin:

Actually, I went to Randwick one day in the early 80's in my normal clobber, it was a beaituful day in Western Sydney, but brass monkey weather at Randwick and blowing a gale.
I was down at the fence for one particular race and the wind blew a guys hat off his head onto the niddle of the track about 50 short of the line.
At this stage, the horses were at about the 800, i've jumped the fence to retrieve the hat, and my mate took a photo of me picking it up, I have the photo somewhere, i'll have to find it   :biggrin:
Also one night at Penrith dogs, a dog broke down just after the start and was lying on the track, I again jumped the fence, carried the dog off the track before the rest of the field got back to the straight.
You should of heard the applause I received.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Sporty on 2009-Aug-04, 09:28 AM

Larsy with his mates over the outside fence..  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

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Post by: specialweek on 2009-Aug-04, 10:11 AM

Had to check the wording of the story............I was worried that some of you would turn up at the track in a thong............ not a pretty sight.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 10:16 AM

Big day planned for Ekka Wednesday.

Roll up, Roll up...

http://www.brc.com.au/

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Post by: gratlog on 2009-Aug-04, 10:20 AM

The people living around the track look forward to this every year   :biggrin:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 10:29 AM

Well Eagle Farm was there long before most of them, so they'll have to grin and bear it for one day of the year.  :biggrin:

Seriously, the Club spends a lot of money these days in reducing the impact of the crowd on the local residents' P&Q.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Aug-04, 11:08 AM

Yes Iknow it is better than it used to be, but I reckon talk back radio will have some calls about it the next day.

Kim Mothershaw is on 4BC arvos for a couple of weeks so he won't bag it. Keen racing man is KM.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 11:13 AM

Oh yes, ya gotta have a whinge about something these days.  Talk-back radio wouldn't rate without someone having a bleat.

There are even people in Ascot who object to hearing a race broadcast on a Saturday arve.  They were probably keen to see the tracks shifted to Wacol. :thumbsd:

From my observations race crowds are several rungs above football crowds when it comes to their post-event behaviour. :yes:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Aug-04, 11:18 AM

Admit it has been awhile since I have been to this day but seeing young girls urinating in the street was a bit off imo.   :biggrin:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 11:22 AM

You didn't object to seeing the guys doing the same, gratlog? :chin:

Such things would never happen around Lang Park.  :nowink:

Anyway, control of such stuff is in the hands of the police.  The Club has no authority outside its boundaries.  And there's no proof that the ladies caught short were even at the races.  Many school formals are on the night before, and they have a long night.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: The-Kid on 2009-Aug-04, 04:01 PM

Kim training out of Doomben at present Grats


Cheers

The- Kid

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 05:39 PM

On Exhibition Wednesday there'll be a SILENT DISCO on course.

Sounds a bit Irish, but I gather the punters are provided with personal wireless head-sets.  They have a choice of music streams, find a partner, and dance till they drop. :bop:

Seems an ideal venue for mono, gratlog, Ascot, et al. :chin:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Aug-04, 05:42 PM

I do not want to dance with Mono or Ascot under any circumstances   :biggrin:

Matt, Kim is certainly keen that's for sure. I also like listening to him on the radio. Does a great job.

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Post by: Ascot on 2009-Aug-04, 06:29 PM

Mr Gratlog, I am mortally wounded at your rebuttal  :tears:

Fortunately I have other offers for dance partners (see below)

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Post by: Ascot on 2009-Aug-04, 06:31 PM

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Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Aug-04, 06:58 PM

Standing room (barely)only, in the good old days .And no gimmicks either.    emthup   That was then  emthup  This is now. emthdown

http://waywewere.couriermail.com.au/image-detail.php?category_id=14&offset=10&return=L3NlYXJjaC1yZXN1bHRzLnBocD9saW1pdHM9MCwxNSwzMzImY2F0ZWdvcnlfaWQ9MTQ=

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 07:30 PM

Yeah, great shot.  emthup   I notice the umbrella from bookie Bailey Walker whom I got to know very well.

We'd get those crowds back again if we closed down the TAB, turned off SKy Channel, took away our cars and mobile phones, brought back trams, cancelled pro sports, closed school activities on Saturdays, etc, etc.  Not all that difficult, but I doubt I'll see it. :nowink:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Aug-04, 07:35 PM

Would be good to be young again    emthup  

That shot would be of the old southern events ring I reckon, so the crowd there would only be a fraction of those in the main ring.

Couple of other good race day shots on that CM site

One shows the local betting ring behind the public stand with a glimpse of the old race day stalls behind the lawn. Now its a fast food outlet but is to be returned to race day stalls under the redevelopment plan.   emthup  

The photo caption claims its Doomben I thought it was Eagle Farm  :what:

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 07:41 PM

Yes, it's the southern ring.  The local ring was at the back of the public grandstand.  Both were packed in my earliest memories.  The first race I saw there was won by Glance Topic, I reckon.  New Joy won the Flying that day.  Woulda been around 1957.

Re the horse stalls, I only remember them in the area where they are now.   I didn't think they were all that close to the betting ring.

Will take a peek at the CM photo.

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 07:51 PM

Couldn't see the pic you were referring to, Arsenal.

Here's a great aerial shot of Eagle Farm just after the new stand was opened.

Check out the number of bookies in the Leger.

http://waywewere.couriermail.com.au/image-detail.php?search_field=racecourse&offset=0&return=L3NlYXJjaC1yZXN1bHRzLnBocD9zZWFyY2hfZmllbGQ9cmFjZWNvdXJzZQ==

Title: The NEW Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-04, 07:56 PM

There's a great shot of Bert Hinkler's reception after his epic flight from UK.  He landed his plane in the Eagle Farm straight.

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Post by: monologue on 2009-Aug-04, 08:14 PM

Not sure how many pics are on there but I looked through a hundred or so and found them facinating.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Aug-04, 08:42 PM

The CM has got Doomben on the brain another wrong caption .But a very good photo

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Aug-04, 08:54 PM

This is the one with the local ring ,the lawn behind and the stalls behind the lawn.
http://waywewere.couriermail.com.au/image-detail.php?category_id=14&offset=182&return=L3NlYXJjaC1yZXN1bHRzLnBocD9saW1pdHM9MTgwLDE1LDMzMiZjYXRlZ29yeV9pZD0xNA==

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-05, 07:19 AM

Thanks for posting, Arsenal.

That's definitely at EF - but well before my time. :yes:

See some poor fellow there without a hat?  Musta been winter judging by all the coats.  There was even an occasional sheila there. I dunno why they weren't home looking after the kids.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Aug-05, 07:35 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-05, 07:19  AM

Musta been winter judging by all the coats.

Not necessarily, even at Randwick in the member's these days, if you're there between start of October and end of March, you may remove your jacket if it gets too hot.
If you're there outside this time frame, and the mercury climbs, your jacket remains on your back.
I was at the AJC Oaks a few years back and took my jacket off early in the meeting as it was mid 30's, before I was told, if you were here last Saturday, it wouldn't have been a problem.  :/
However on the other side of the coin, women can wear the most revealling numbers, and i'm sure there is a condition that bras are not allowed in the member's area.
But i'm not complaining  :stop:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-05, 07:39 AM

Larsy

Take a look at the pic.  The "coats" I'm referring to were of the knee-length variety.  These days in winter in Brisbane ya wouldn't see one such item of apparel.  They've all been replaced by RAIN-coats. :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Aug-05, 07:44 AM

Who really knows, as you stipulated, it was way before your time.

How bout the bloke close to the middle of the photograph, he must be having a bad day, one more loser and he wouldn't have his shirt.
I wonder if Arsenal has a photo of the same area an hour later  :/

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Aug-05, 08:24 PM

Larsy is very observant punters in shirt sleeves are greatly outnumbered by the suit and tie brigade.Notice most  men wear hats and a good proportion appear to be studying a racebook.The light coloured coats are probably dust coats which were favoured by CIB dicks in that era.
In those days racebooks didn't contain any form as they do today but  these days many  punters don't buy a book.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Aug-05, 08:33 PM

Wasn't today the day the new man or women was given the nod as to whether he or she has gained a seat on the BRC.?

The silence id deafening.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Thenamy1 on 2009-Aug-06, 07:22 PM

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BRC Board Member Appointed
   
6th August 2009   
   
 
Fellow Member,

As you are aware, a vacancy to the BRC Board was created with the recent resignation of Wayne Milner. The constitution of the BRC provides that should a vacancy occur during the first three year term, then the surviving foundation directors from the club represented by the retired director must select a replacement Director from the members who were eligible members of the originating club at the time of merger.

To meet the requirements of the constitution, myself, Peter Tighe, Paul Williams set about a process to select a replacement Director. This process involved seeking Expressions of Interest from eligible BTC members, and determining which interested individuals would, in our opinion, best compliment and add to the skills and experience already present on the Board.

We are very pleased to announce we have identified an outstanding individual to join the Board. I am delighted to introduce Samuel (Sam) Adams who will be joining our Board. Sam has been selected as we believe he has a unique ability to contribute both professional skills to many of the BRC’s critical endeavours, as well as provide perspective to Board deliberations that are not currently present on the Board.

Sam’s legal and professional skills (specialising in major property development transactions) will be invaluable in our Master Plan/Redevelopment activities. In addition, Sam, being of a generation not currently well represented in Racing Administration anywhere, will have a unique opportunity to help us recognise the needs of younger members and race goers, and begin the journey to ensure our club continues to prosper into the future. Of course, it goes without saying, Sam is a very keen racing enthusiast.

To properly introduce Sam, I have included below a brief summary of Sam’s background. I am sure you will join us in congratulating Sam on his appointment to the Board, and wish him well as he embarks on this significant commitment to the future of the BRC.

Best Regards,



Kevin Dixon.

 ---------------
Samuel Adams, Summary Background

Age: 29

Place of Birth:  Chinchilla

Secondary Education:  Macgregor State High, achieving School Captain, Dux of the School and an OP 1.

Tertiary Education:  Bachelor of Laws (First Class Honours), Bachelor of Commerce (Accountancy, Banking and Finance)

Professional Qualifications: Solicitor to Supreme Court and High Court of Australia; Solicitor of England and Wales.

Professional Experience:  Associate, Clifford Chance LLP, London; Associate, Minter Ellison (Brisbane); Senior Associate, Clayton Utz (Brisbane).
 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Aug-07, 10:41 AM

Congratulations must go to Sam and I wish him well in his new role.

Unfortunate for a couple of mates who missed out but it looks as though the BRC have gone with "youth" and not aged experience.

I look forward to watching how this club grows and prospers in the future .

There has never been a time when race clubs or their committees have come under so much scrutiny and if the racing industry is to get out of the doldrums and get rid of the perceived perception of only looking after it's members then I'd say it's the young people like Sam Adams who have to start the ball rolling.

Congratulations to Sam once again and best wishes.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Aug-10, 09:13 AM

The race day stalls always attract  numerous horse lovers who are able to check out the  runners  in their stalls and assess how they look throughout the day .
Imo its one of the main  advantages in attending the races.But its now becoming more difficult to see which horse is in which stall . emthdown

This is due to  the smaller font used in  printing  the horse  names on the plates on each stall,  making it  very difficult to read . :thumbsd:

Maybe  its part of a cost saving exercise but not a good idea imo. :chair:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Aug-10, 09:30 AM

Wandering around the horses was one of the main reasons for attending the track.

I won't carry on about why peple don't go to the track anymore as that gets a bit boring.

It is a holiday out here in Logan today so I'm going to wander down to one of our clubs and watch some races on the big screen. I can eat cheaper and better meals than I can get at the track and access to a lot cleaner amenities.  Bit of luck I will have a lot of space to myself.

Main thing is , I don't have to battle traffic .

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-10, 02:58 PM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2009-Aug-10, 09:13  AM

The race day stalls always attract  numerous horse lovers who are able to check out the  runners  in their stalls and assess how they look throughout the day .
Imo its one of the main  advantages in attending the races.But its now becoming more difficult to see which horse is in which stall . emthdown

This is due to  the smaller font used in  printing  the horse  names on the plates on each stall,  making it  very difficult to read . :thumbsd:

Maybe  its part of a cost saving exercise but not a good idea imo. :chair:

Arsenal, you can be assured that the issue will be addressed.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Aug-10, 05:36 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-10, 02:58  PM

Arsenal, you can be assured that the issue will be addressed.

Very pleased to hear it   emthup  Thank You Dubbles  :noteworthy:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-20, 07:11 AM

Some major repair bills looming for the BRC due to problems with the sheeted ceiling above the seating area in the JP Stand at EF.   Seems the concrete floor above the sheeting is fragmenting due to corrosion of the reo and causing the sheeting to come away.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Aug-20, 07:16 AM

When was that stand built, DD?
That happens when the rio was too close to the surface of the concrete before it set.
It doesn't mean the stand is going to come tumbling down, just a mediocre job by those that contructed it.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-20, 07:22 AM

Was built in late 50s, mate.

Yes, that seems to be the current opinion as to the cause.  More work to be done before full answer is known.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Aug-20, 07:33 AM

I went and sat in that stand yesterday and just remembered days long gone.

I was the only one there and it was really enjoyable.

Remmember sometimes you couldn't get a seat there but yesterday had it to myself.   :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Aug-20, 07:38 AM

It's great sitting in an empty stand with racebook in hand, having a smoke and thinking about the old days  :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Aug-20, 09:03 AM

Nothing major but I notice that where they mark the lengths on the fence near the winning post that 1-4 lengths is still there but from the 5 lengths mark onwards has been painted over.

Just curious as to why.

Might sound like a silly question and probably is   :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Aug-20, 09:04 AM

Probably because they realised no horse in QLD is capable of winning by more than 4 lengths   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Aug-30, 07:42 AM

In today's SM they are saying that membership is rising.

I've thought of it but work on the idea that any club that would have me as a member isn't worth joining.

Looks like a good deal if you are a regular race goer.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Aug-30, 02:48 PM

Yes, it's a good deal alright, gratlog.

What isn't mentioned is the reciprocity it brings - interstate race clubs, and NZ clubs, plus QRU, RQYS, etc.  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2009-Aug-30, 03:36 PM

I think the reciprocity extends to Qld Cricketers Club too.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Sep-03, 09:55 AM

Jockeys' boycott averted at Doomben
Wednesday, 2 September 2009:

A jockeys' boycott over staff cutbacks at the newly-formed Brisbane Racing Club (BRC) was narrowly averted at Doomben on Wednesday.

Jockeys refused to ride before the opening race when long-serving jockeys' room attendant Doug Weir, who has officiated for the past 20 years at both Doomben and Eagle Farm meetings, was not on duty.

They heard Weir had become the latest victim of staff cutbacks at the club and were irate when no attendant was left in charge of the jockeys' room to oversee the safety of personal belongings and its day-to-day running .

The BRC has made several controversial cost-cutting decisions with staff recently including sacking the stewards' driver and 40-plus year stalwart Brian Weibler who lost his job in the Doomben race day office on Monday.

A jockeys' deputation, led by senior riders Larry Cassidy and Jim Byrne, demanded to speak to BRC officials to guarantee Weir's reinstatement before next Saturday's Eagle Farm meeting.

Cassidy said riders were adamant they would not ride at Doomben until a club official addressed them.

"We weren't going to come out for the first race until someone from the club spoke to us," Cassidy said.

"It's an integrity and safety issue. All our belongings are inside and no-one is there to look after it.

"I've ridden in five or six countries around the world and every jockeys' room I've been to has between two and five attendants.

"Sydney has three and I think Melbourne has about four and all we are asking for is one and we want Doug back because he knows what is required."

BRC chief operations manager Darren Condon spoke with the delegation and assured riders the matter would be resolved.

However, Condon denied Weir had been sacked or made redundant as the club looked at ways to save costs.

"We haven't sacked Doug but we are looking at reducing our costs," Condon said.

"Doug wasn't rostered on today as we were trialling using the clerk of the scales to look after the jockeys' room as well.

"Clearly the jockeys have some issues with that but we'll work through it.

"We thought the best time to trial this was at the midweeks and we're surprised by the jockeys' action."

As well as the lack of a permanent jockeys' room attendant, the female jockeys' room had no food, water or toilet paper for riders.

The jockeys' stand received overwhelming support from owners and trainers attending Doomben.

Leading trainer Rob Heathcote was furious there was no permanent jockeys' room attendant.

"I was for an amalgamation when the two metropolitan clubs talked about a merger," Heathcote said.

"But if the merger was on now I wouldn't vote for it.

"Since the merger took place we've seen nothing positive from this club except staff cutbacks while food and alcohol prices have gone through the roof."

However, Heathcote had cause for some celebration later when he collected a winning double with debutant Racing Heart in the Leighton Contractors Plate (1110m) and Gondola Girl, a half-sister to former multiple Group One winner Show A Heart, in the Turner Freeman Plate (1110m).

Some discontent  amongst the flock by the sounds of it.....also news filtering through about the members' car parks passes which have been taken off the members causing some concern to some members wives and partners that may want to attend the races at a later time in the afternoon but can't gain admission on guest passes.
Other issues  have been raised at various levels and the realisation that the BRC have to try cut costs to survive but at what cost to it's members.

Any feedback would be welcome and I'm sure the BRC will respond in time.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2009-Sep-03, 11:09 AM

My only criticism the day I went down to Eagle Farm was  the state of the toilets. Tried three cubicles before I found something usable.  They certainly hadn't been cleaned since the last meeting.

  That is crook imo

You don't really expect decent food and I wasn't dissappointed in that regard   :biggrin:

Then again it is only a racetrack and I still enjoyed my day. If you wanted decent food you would find a decent eatery elsewhere.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Proud Knight on 2009-Sep-03, 04:23 PM

Quote from: gratlog on 2009-Sep-03, 11:09  AM

Then again it is only a racetrack and I still enjoyed my day. If you wanted decent food you would find a decent eatery elsewhere.

Gratlog, thats what they used to say about most pubs? Times have changed and so have the pubs. No reason racetracks shouldnt be offering good meals.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Sep-03, 08:41 PM

"As well as the lack of a permanent jockeys' room attendant, the female jockeys' room had no food, water or toilet paper for riders.

Wonder the ladies didn't complain,no toilet paper that's bad.

They seem to be more understanding than the blokes whose only worry apparently is that some one might knick orf with their wallets if Doug isn't watching. ;)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2009-Sep-03, 10:36 PM

A meeting of the power brokers as i undersatand next Tuesday :rolleyes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-04, 07:38 PM

From brc.com.au

BRISBANE RACING CLUB MEETS WITH JOCKEYS AND TRAINERS

Brisbane Racing Club (BRC) Chairman, Kevin Dixn met this morning with several leading Brisbane trainers and jockeys.

Mr. Dixon said, “There has been conjecture regarding various cost cutting exercises at BRC.

We thought it important to provide information to and get feedback from some key stakeholders.

BRC believes that the prizemoney, programming and race date allocation scheme in Queensland is the best model employed by any state in Australia.

However, the current scheme has been in place for a number of years and some of the balances and incentives need to be addressed to ensure racing prospers.

BRC recognises that all clubs in Queensland are under much the same pressures.

However, it is significant that Eagle Farm and Doomben have had their raceday operational funding halved, whilst all other TAB venues have had no change.

Despite all SEQ TAB clubs receiving roughly the same raceday operational funding, there is significant disparity when the number of race meetings run at the different venues is taken into account.

We would like all clubs and stakeholders to be involved in assisting Queensland Racing Limited with a review of the operational and capital funding of racing.

Trainer Rob Heathcote said, “I was extremely encouraged to be involved today.  It was a great initiative the club took to let us know of the predicaments faced by racing in Brisbane.”

Leading jockey Jason Taylor said, “The opportunities to market racing in Queensland are enormous.  The jockeys are very keen to assist wherever we can.”

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-08, 12:24 PM

End of an era looms for racing in Brisbane:

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Sep-09, 09:51 AM

dd any ideas as to what becomes of the BTC Cup and so forth? I'd imagine they will require a name change.

3 AGMs on that morning I've heard...could be a busy day.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Sep-09, 09:56 AM

Quote from: monologue on 2009-Sep-09, 09:51  AM

dd any ideas as to what becomes of the BTC Cup and so forth? I'd imagine they will require a name change.

BRC Cup  :/
I'd opt to name it and others after a horse though.

Have Doomben a race named after Chief De Beers?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2009-Sep-09, 10:23 AM

Quote from: OldLarsy on 2009-Sep-09, 09:56  AM

BRC Cup  :/
I'd opt to name it and others after a horse though.

Have Doomben a race named after Chief De Beers?

OL the BRC looks an obvious choice but remember we also have the QTC cup so the new BRC might have to rename quite a few races.
Races named after "champion" horses is a great idea but how a horse is determined a champion is anyone's guess.

I know that Doomben  have the Chief De Beers room but for how long ? ...don't forget he was a great horse who won many races at Doomben but nowhere else.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: OldLarsy on 2009-Sep-09, 10:24 AM

Quote from: monologue on 2009-Sep-09, 10:23  AM

I know that Doomben  have the Chief De Beers room but for how long ? ...don't forget he was a great horse who won many races at Doomben but nowhere else.

I know, that's why I stipulated Doomben

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-09, 10:48 AM

Mono

There's a CDB Quality race, and my personal view would be that it should remain as such, and I can't foresee any move to make a change.  My view would be the same re the CDB Room.

If any horses are synonymous with Doomben racecourse, they'd be Bernborough and CDB.

As for BTC Cup, QTC Cup, there'd be no reason to change either, IMO.  There probably is a case to balance out the number of races bearing racecourse/club names, club officials, etc, though.  There'll be a multitude of different views to accommodate.  Stay tuned.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-09, 10:50 AM

Re the AGMs, yes it's a same-day treble.  There'll be sandwiches and refreshments for those who last out to the end  :yes:  Hope to see ya there.  emthup   emthup   emthup

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Post by: monologue on 2009-Sep-09, 10:55 AM

Hope someone has arranged a shuttle bus.   :biggrin:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-09, 10:58 AM

The races are at EF, so I reckon we'll make it there under our own steam.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-28, 02:16 PM

Bringing this up to remind all BRC members that the inaugural AGM will be held at Doomben on Wednesday, 10 am.

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Post by: gratlog on 2009-Sep-28, 02:31 PM

Does that mean if you blokes are over at Doomben getting sloshed, it might be a good day to go to Eagle Farm ?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-28, 03:14 PM

Yes and No.

1.  It's always a good day to go to EF.

2.  We move from Dbn to EF at 11 for the QTC AGM.  Then.... -())=(

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Post by: D-G on 2009-Sep-28, 03:31 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-28, 03:14  PM

Yes and No.


2.  We move from Dbn to EF at 11 for the QTC AGM.  Then.... -())=(

What is the QTC AGM?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-28, 03:37 PM

Quote from: DJH on 2009-Sep-28, 03:31  PM

What is the QTC AGM?

The Annual General Meeting of Qld Turf Club.

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Post by: D-G on 2009-Sep-28, 03:44 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-28, 03:37  PM

The Annual General Meeting of Qld Turf Club.

I didn't think the Queensland Turf Club existed anymore?

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Post by: monologue on 2009-Sep-28, 03:51 PM

Nor does the BTC but both clubs,QTC and the BTC have to fianalise their business.

After the AGM both clubs,BTC and QTC are but a memory.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-29, 07:35 AM

Those who turn up at EF tomorrow will have the added benefit of getting first-hand intelligence on last-start SC winner BE GLORIOUS.

Nice box, vintage. :)

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Oct-21, 05:02 PM

From letsgohorseracing.com.au:

OPINIONS DIVIDED ON MEMBERSHIP WITHDRAWAL - INJUSTICE OR NOT?

WE have received several e-mails that we just couldn’t believe at first but further information received suggests that a terrible injustice has been done to a couple of fine ladies of the turf.


Here is a sample of what is being reported to us:

“Are you aware that the widows of two long-standing Queensland Turf Club committeemen have had life membership privileges withdrawn by the new Brisbane Racing Club?

“These women were at the sides of their husbands when they did a mountain of work for the QTC but now have to rely on friends to provide them with tickets to even get into the course that their husbands help build and develop.

“One of these ladies, the wife of the greatest chairman the QTC ever had, was so distressed about the situation that she wrote to the BRC but has not even received a reply.

“When you consider that two officials there are said to be paid between them a half million dollars and one apparently got a recent pay rise you have to ask, ‘What the hell is happening?’ This injustice to these fine ladies is an absolute disgrace.”

If anyone from the Brisbane Racing Club wishes to clarify this situation or better still correct the alleged anomaly we would be pleased to hear from them and run a response.

THIS ITEM HAD ONLY BEEN UP ON THE SITE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS WHEN IT PROMPTED THIS E-MAIL RESPONSE FROM JEAN (who asked that her surname be with-held):

"I saw your item concerning what you are saying is a 'terrible injustice to fine ladies of the turf.'  I am replying as a close friend of a 'long-time member' of the Queensland Turf Club and I hope you will get some space to publish my letter to you because it is important to get more than one opinion.

I have checked the information in the Merger Deed, which was agreed to by the QTC and BTC members. There is nothing I could see to cover the wives of previous committeemen.

I have also checked up to confirm that the wives of past committeemen were not LIFE MEMBERS as you or someone seems to think they are or were. They were just partners of their husbands, getting free-bees all along the way.

So for the life of me why should the NEW club give a life member category to the wife of a past committeeman of the QTC? The QTC is finished. R.I.P. Amen.The BRC is a NEW club. The free-loading days are over for all of the people who got accustomed to same.

I also know that partners of several new committeemen of the BRC are members themselves. They pay their way and I would say 'so they should pay their way'.

I would think if the wives of passed committeemen of the QTC are keen race-goers that they should JOIN THE CLUB! Maybe that is something they aren't too keen on.'

THERE WAS ALSO THIS E-MAIL ABOUT THE NEW BRC:

'There is no loyalty from the new Brisbane Racing Club. All they think about is getting the young ones there to get drunk. They are the only ones that can afford it. Even a bottle of water is $4.

They have forgotten about the older punter and treat them as if they do not exsist. There is nowhere for us to go and sit as it is all taken up with unruly young men and women who have had too much to drink.

I would probably be able to say this on a face to face meeting but it is no use complaining even to Mr Bart Sinclair (Courier-Mail Racing Editor) because he knows what side his bread is buttered on.'

Thank you for letting me have my bitch -Bev Connett.

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Post by: monologue on 2009-Oct-21, 05:10 PM

gee I'm happy that Bev put her name to that last e-mail otherwise some people may have thought it was one of the Cleveland Mafia that penned that e-mail. 
 
Bev needs to come into the members bar at Eagle Farm where all in attendance are on their best behaviour. :beer:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Oct-22, 07:19 AM

Yeah right, mono.  I've yet to see any member of the Cleveland chapter drink WATER!! :no:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Oct-22, 09:34 AM

"If anyone from the Brisbane Racing Club wishes to clarify this situation or better still correct the alleged anomaly we would be pleased to hear from them and run a response."

If I was running the show ,I would answer this criticism rather than relying on "Jean" whose status is "a friend of a long time QTC member"Someone from the BRC should step up here. :love:

For what it's worth it wouldn't hurt to give these widows the respect they think they are entitled to.  :beer:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Oct-23, 03:38 PM

BRC Members please note:

Ya need to RSVP by Monday for the FREE Champagne Breakfast in the Doomben mounting yard on Derby Day.

rsvp@brc.com.au

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 12:20 PM

Fans of the Queensland Reds should take note that they'll be at Eagle Farm on Saturday next.

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Probably something more in keeping with our own preferences:  

You can meet Justine from Masterchef and even sample some of her dishes at Eagle Farm on Saturday Dec 12. :fry:

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Post by: gratlog on 2009-Nov-16, 12:30 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 12:20  PM

Fans of the Queensland Reds should take note that they'll be at Eagle Farm on Saturday next.

If the entire 6 fans turn up it might double the usual crowd   :biggrin:

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 12:45 PM

When you consider that two officials there are said to be paid between them a half million dollars and one apparently got a recent pay rise you have to ask, ‘What the hell is happening?’ This injustice to these fine ladies is an absolute disgrace.”

 :huh: Is that right ?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 12:48 PM

I dunno what the question is you're asking. :chin:

Whether I know the answers or not, I'm not a spokesman on specific issues for BRC.  :no:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 12:51 PM

The salary level being quoted, I was wondering about.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 12:58 PM

Whatever the level is, I can't see what that has to do with the other issue mentioned.

The BRC constitution - approved by an overwhelming majority of both BTC and QTC members - does not make provisions for wives of deceased QTC board members.  I was at all the info sessions prior to the members' vote on the new Constitution and the matter wasn't raised to my knowledge.

Membership of BRC remains open to all.  These days, the spouses/partners of most BRC directors are members in their own right, and pay full freight like any other member.  I'd reckon the majority of members would think that's only fair and reasonable. :yes:

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Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Nov-16, 12:58 PM

lot of money to run a race meeting...maybe the bonus is for having to deal with bogon bob and pickled porky?

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 01:16 PM

I'm not going in to bat for freebie-weebies, bugger them, just questioning why there would be two people copping that grade of salary to run a race club.  ;)

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 01:20 PM

Maybe Bob Bentley is underpaid.  :fishing:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 01:39 PM

Quote from: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 01:16  PM

I'm not going in to bat for freebie-weebies, bugger them, just questioning why there would be two people copping that grade of salary to run a race club.  ;)

I've learned not to believe everything that's posted on racing websites.

The BRC operation relates to more than a race club.  Two racecourses, 100 race meetings, merging of two HR pools, plans for a billion-dollar development, etc.

Much more than a "race club". :yes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Nov-16, 01:48 PM

more like bib bob should not be paid

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 01:54 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 01:39  PM

plans for a billion-dollar development

There is no way known that a billion bucks will be invested in anything racing-related in Queensland, God knows what will be sold off to developers by the BRC, but it's end use won't be for, or funded by horseracing activities. The capacity to generate income isn't there. And one certainty is Ms Bligh's mob won't be coming to the party.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 01:58 PM

Oh, so you don't believe what has been put up by BRC as their vision for the future, Max?

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 02:16 PM

Amalgamation of the two clubs looked like a good idea, getting rid of unnecessary duplication, how that's worked in practice you would know a lot more about than most. I don't know what specific plans are afoot, again you have the inside run, but the ability of horse-racing activity to generate cash income from those two tracks, sustainably, looks quite limited to me. Thank God for " Girls Day Out" and the " Responsible Alcohol Policy "   :lol:  Why there's no pokies on track, I can't fathom, every other booze outlet is permitted to fleece the mugs using them.

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 02:37 PM

On another tack, DD, I hope there are not too many proponents of a new Grandstand for EF on that new committee, that would be the grand-daddy of dumb ideas, people watch races off TV screens these days, not from Grandstands. Combine that with relatively small crowds nowadays........it's a no-brainer. A little bit of refurbishment to existing structures would do nicely, and look after the historical aspect as well.........unless they get a consultant in to hear if it's all badly in need of demolition. Just make sure he's not working hand-in-glove with the prospective grandstand builder.   :lol:

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Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Nov-16, 03:00 PM

max to be fair to you ,you must have missed the detail about the new hotel,the new units/apartment blocks,the new retail shopping precinct,the new bowls club with pokies.......all this in the premium suburbs of hamilton.ascot and the emerging hendra

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 03:09 PM

All of which is not from horseracing, Ted, but sure as hell comes from the Government grant of Freehold title to all the land EF course sits upon, a few years back. So fill me in Ted, is it a straight sell-off with no further BRC involvement, or are they going in to the hotel business etc. ? In either case, its purely a windfall result. In the long haul, if racing there doesn't prosper off its own product, it's stuffed and the whole lot will be under some alternate usage.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 03:19 PM

Max

Please don't confuse core land (racecourse) with the other properties owned by BRC freehold.  Much of the redevelopment will be on non-core land.

There are community consultation meetings around Ascot.  Suggest you go along and see what's in store.  (Assuming you don't know already.)

Of course the billion plus won't come from racing.  It'll come from staged development of income-producing retail, commercial, etc.

As for pokies, you really think BTC/QTC would have been granted a pokie licence with the clubs in the vicinity???  But stay tuned.  You probably know that BRC owns the land where Hamilton Bowls Club lives.

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Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Nov-16, 03:23 PM

and max this is the future of racing in queensland....without bib bob and labor help....we all recall bib bobs plans to close both and head to goodna......what a wacko is our bib bob and his mate pickled porky :wacko:

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 03:34 PM

Wasn't that a fateful little happening, the freehold grant, then ? So, what's the proposal, BRC supplies the land, developers build, both maintain a stake ?

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 03:40 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 03:19  PM

As for pokies, you really think BTC/QTC would have been granted a pokie licence with the clubs in the vicinity???  But stay tuned.  You probably know that BRC owns the land where Hamilton Bowls Club lives.

Pokies licences have been handed out like lollies, a good, solid "Labor Mate" lobbying would have  got it over the line for sure.   :lol:

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Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Nov-16, 03:49 PM

its sad to see the state of this once great state.....it amazes me and many others how bib bob has been left un-touched after all his loony tune....prizemoney squandering ways.......how much for his private business partners ...northern/northerly recruitment?
stakeholders of queensland taken for suckers

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 03:51 PM

Are you on cordial terms, with Bob ?  :p

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 04:00 PM

Quote from: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 03:34  PM

Wasn't that a fateful little happening, the freehold grant, then ? So, what's the proposal, BRC supplies the land, developers build, both maintain a stake ?

Max

You seem a bit "narky" about the grant being made 150 years ago for the use of a ti-tree swamp as a race track?  Maybe I'm reading you incorrectly.

Had the grant not been made, we'd have NO Eagle Farm.  I can't imagine a world without it, can you?

And similarly, there'd be no Suncorp Stadium, Gabba, Ekka, etc etc.

The core land of EF can not be used for anything other than racing.  As for other land owned by BRC, well it's an open book for now.

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 04:11 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-16, 04:00  PM

Max

You seem a bit "narky" about the grant being made 150 years ago for the use of a ti-tree swamp as a race track?  Maybe I'm reading you incorrectly.

Had the grant not been made, we'd have NO Eagle Farm.  I can't imagine a world without it, can you?

And similarly, there'd be no Suncorp Stadium, Gabba, Ekka, etc etc.

The core land of EF can not be used for anything other than racing.  As for other land owned by BRC, well it's an open book for now.

The freehold title was granted in the early 1990's........or thereabouts. Prior to that would have been leasehold. Race clubs should keep out non-racing activities, IMO, could all go horribly wrong if the thing turned into a white elephant. Sell the excess land, put those funds into income-producing diversified investments. A Future Fund, the principal of which shouldn't be raided to increase prizemoney etc.

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Post by: ted e turner on 2009-Nov-16, 04:21 PM

thats whats being done maxwell,rents and income streams for future generations....to think bib bob even suggested moving to goodna was ridiculed all the way to the gurgling toilet that stakeholders wish he would pull the chain on himself and resign in disgrace.....you can why the industry concern over his  loss of about 600k in the 2 court decisions over his attempt to stack the board of the disgraced qrl pty ltd

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-16, 04:25 PM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2009-Nov-16, 04:21  PM

thats whats being done maxwell,rents and income streams for future generations....to think bib bob even suggested moving to goodna was ridiculed all the way to the gurgling toilet that stakeholders wish he would pull the chain on himself and resign in disgrace.....you can why the industry concern over his  loss of about 600k in the 2 court decisions over his attempt to stack the board of the disgraced qrl pty ltd

There is a touch of the all-eggs-in-one-basket though. Is Frank Lowy on the committee ? If not....... :confused1:

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Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-17, 08:47 AM

DD, after reading the Master Plan press release, I am none the wiser as to whether a race club is  becoming a developer, or what.  It's all clear as mud.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-17, 03:15 PM

Max

Not sure what more you'd expect to see in a concept master plan.  The BRC is not a developer at this stage.  It's a company looking to develop its lands.

Nothing more can be provided until a development approval is obtained.  That could take a year or more, but ya gotta start somewhere.

There are people out there hoping above hope that the whole thing will fall over.  Hopefully you're not one?  The very large majority want a better racing precinct.  BCC have expressed their full support for the concept.  The government ain't gonna fund it, QRL doesn't have the money to fund it, so BRC will rely on skilful application of their assets.

If you have some constructive comments/criticism/advice, there are a few avenues you can use. :yes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Max Manewer on 2009-Nov-17, 03:26 PM

No, I hope it goes well, no good having unused assets sitting around earning nothing. I'm just hazy about the execution, clearly it's not just a clean sale of surplus real estate for others to develop.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Nov-18, 08:50 AM

Good news that TAKEOVER TARGET is a possible visitor to Doomben for the 10,000.  emthup

Hopefully he'll pass on some tips to a few others racing that day.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-06, 01:00 PM

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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2009-Dec-06, 01:27 PM

Wouldn't mind gettting along just the see Chewie Choo the mixologist.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Dec-06, 07:58 PM

Saturday at Doomben was quite a pleasant day weather wise, a stiff breeze blowing most of the afternoon.To help with heat stress the race day stalls have sprinklers on the tin roofs but in places the gutters were full of leaves from over hanging trees and the water spilled over onto the walk ways instead of recirculating the whole way. This made a continuous overflow dropping down  in front of several stalls which those affected found very annoying and unsettling to some horses.No effort was made to clear the gutters while I was there despite bringing it to the attention of several staff.
You would think there would be a daily pre race day check list for maintenance staff so that problems like this are eliminated as far as possible.
Also some sections of guttering are rusted through and need repair.  :baby:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-10, 02:44 PM

Arsenal

From what I saw yesterday, the matters you referred to have been addressed.

Wind doesn't help. :sweat:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-10, 02:48 PM

The BRC has changed the "traditional names" of many of the feature races run at Doomben and Eagle Farm.

There'll be some criticism at the change of the traditional Hopeful/Meynink and McDougall to the Phelan Ready and Calaway Gal.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Dec-11, 09:01 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-10, 02:48  PM

The BRC has changed the "traditional names" of many of the feature races run at Doomben and Eagle Farm.

There'll be some criticism at the change of the traditional Hopeful/Meynink and McDougall to the Phelan Ready and Calaway Gal.

Not a good decision IMO racing loses when it abandons some traditions long standing race names is one that should be preserved.Fancy these two "icons" will be forgotten rather than remembered for their slipper wins.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Dec-11, 09:03 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-10, 02:44  PM

Arsenal

From what I saw yesterday, the matters you referred to have been addressed.

Wind doesn't help. :sweat:

Well done Dubbles make sure it stays fixed.Gutter guard   emthup  

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-11, 11:11 AM

The mighty GUNSYND won the 1969 stanza of the QTC Hopeful Stakes - now the Phelan Ready.

Here are a couple of pics I took that day.  The first as he parades before the race, the second as he streaks to the line ahead of Minehan and Gentle Anthony.  (I backed GA the drum.)

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-11, 11:17 AM

It's worth noting that Gunsynd was on debut in his win, and went around at 6 or 7/1 from memory.

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Post by: Prince Frolic on 2009-Dec-11, 07:16 PM

thats quite historical DD. well done

Good to know you knew how to take photos and be on the punt whilst still in nappies 8-)

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-11, 07:40 PM

Quote from: Prince Frolic on 2009-Dec-11, 07:16  PM

Good to know you knew how to take photos and be on the punt whilst still in nappies 8-)

Hope I continue to punt whilst in nappies. :yes:

PF...you still connected with DALZAR?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-20, 11:08 AM

Bart Sinclair reports in today's S-M that BRC has signed up with Brisbane's Channel 7 to provide promotion and direct telecasting of features races at next year's Stradbroke carnival.

Should add to the TAB holds.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2009-Dec-22, 07:55 PM

BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon, principal of the Racetree Stud, is getting some nice returns from his bloodstock investments.

Two of his mares - SEESAWING and PLAIN MAGIC - won at Doomben on Saturday.

And they'll be winning again, too. :yes:

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Post by: sobig on 2009-Dec-22, 08:46 PM

uesday, 22 December 2009: Concerns over the condition of the Eagle Farm track have forced two holiday meetings to be transferred to Doomben.

The decision to transfer upcoming meetings was made today following an inspection of remedial work to the outside section of the Eagle Farm course proper.

Although the remedial work had been undertaken last week the track had not responded as initially forecast due to limited rainfall and extremely hot weather conditions.

Queensland Racing and the Brisbane Racing Club took the decision to transfer the meetings on Monday December 28 and Saturday January 2 to Doomben.

The transfers require changes to the distances to several races.

1000m races go to 1010m; 1300m and 1400m events to 1350m; 1500m and 1600m events will be run over 1615m and 1800m events are back to 1615m.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2009-Dec-23, 09:51 AM

Quote from: sobig on 2009-Dec-22, 08:46  PM

uesday, 22 December 2009: Concerns over the condition of the Eagle Farm track have forced two holiday meetings to be transferred to Doomben.

The decision to transfer upcoming meetings was made today following an inspection of remedial work to the outside section of the Eagle Farm course proper.

Although the remedial work had been undertaken last week the track had not responded as initially forecast due to limited rainfall and extremely hot weather conditions.

Queensland Racing and the Brisbane Racing Club took the decision to transfer the meetings on Monday December 28 and Saturday January 2 to Doomben.

The transfers require changes to the distances to several races.

1000m races go to 1010m; 1300m and 1400m events to 1350m; 1500m and 1600m events will be run over 1615m and 1800m events are back to 1615m.

That explains it the BRC website has Monday's races at Doomben when the QRL weights had Eagle Farm as the venue.

Driving past EF yesty I saw FREE ADMISSION in bold letters on the Admissions sign close to the turnstiles .

I thought that's showing the Christmas Spirit  emthup

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Post by: westie on 2010-Jan-02, 09:19 PM

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By Bart Sinclair
January 01, 2010 12:00am


THE Brisbane Racing Club has unveiled plans for a $2 million redevelopment of Doomben to be in place for the start of the winter carnival in May.  The new-look members' and public facilities will include a relocation of the parade ring from the front of the members' stand to the rear and the transfer of the bookmakers' rings to a covered area adjacent to the parade ring.  The stewards and jockeys' rooms will be housed in the old Brisbane Turf Club administration area and have easy access to the new parade ring.  The Doomben plans also include:

* Redevelopment of the existing parade ring into a Members' Lawn.
* The existing stewards' and jockeys' rooms to be turned into a members' bar with a view of the Lawn and course proper.
* The expanded members' facilities to allow for the release of the Champions Bar for public use.
* A 1000sq/m roof in the area between the members' and public grandstands.
* A new members' terrace overlooking the parade ring.
* More space for corporate use on major race days.
* A revitalised Gunsynd Gardens area with upgraded bar and food outlets adjacent to the parade ring.

''Barring unforeseen circumstances we are very confident these works will be completed in time for the first major Doomben winter meeting on May 8,'' BRC chairman Kevin Dixon said.


''This is one important component of the initial implementation of the BRC Master Plan for the racing precinct. We are also working on some upgrade plans to add to the initiatives already introduced at Eagle Farm.

''Our aim is to provide members and public facilities at our two tracks which will deliver the country's finest racing and recreational amenities.''

Last week the BRC announced it was well advanced in discussions with polo administrators to introduce a polo/sports oval in the infield area of Doomben.

Plans are for a major polo tournament to be held at the Doomben facility in October and, in the long term, stage two or three big polo events annually.

The BRC has provided a proposal to Hamilton Bowls Club which is located on Eagle Farm land to take over the licensed club, to be called the Brisbane Racing Sports and Social Club.

Under the umbrella of the licensed club the HBC would continue to operate independently with funding from the over-arching identity.

''Members of the BRC and HBC would automatically become social members of the licensed club,'' Dixon said.

''The BRC, through various funding models, would support the bowls club to ensure it would continue to compete at an elite level and also guarantee its long-term future.''

It is hoped the members of the HBC will be in a position to signal its support for the new venture by early February.

Queensland Racing Limited has been briefed on the Doomben upgrade plans. There is no request for QRL to provide funding.

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Post by: westie on 2010-Jan-02, 09:23 PM

I would have thought Eagle Farm was a priority.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jan-02, 09:58 PM

in the big picture re-commercial devolpment it is :whistle:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: The-Kid on 2010-Jan-03, 10:10 AM

Are rumours surrounding the wash out of the new Rocky grass track anywhere near right Sir Ted :sad:

Cheers


The-Kid

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jan-03, 08:56 PM

mother nature may have delivered a tad 2 much rain,,,builder bobs team of rxperts can pick it up and put it back...will be a asset  of note for many years....who owes who is the question=6 million cost

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Feb-07, 12:41 PM

Bart Sinclair reports in this morning's SM that work has begun on the Doomben refurb, following approval from QRL.  emthup

Plans include relocation of the mounting yard to the rear of the Members' Stand, and construction of a new lawn in front of the Members' Stand.  The additional space in the ground floor of the Members' Stand has become available due to relocation of the old BTC offices to EF.

Let's hope weather is kind and work can be completed before the WRC.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Feb-22, 03:40 PM

Sofie Formica Announced as Brisbane Racing Carnival Ambassador

The Brisbane Racing Club today announced that Channel Seven presenter Sofie Formica will be the official event ambassador for the 2010 Brisbane Racing Carnival.

The popular host of the Great South East has been engaged to promote the Brisbane Racing Carnival which runs from May 15 through to June 12 inclusive. Sofie will appear at various Brisbane Racing Carnival race days and associated events, including Brisbane racing’s grand final – AAMI Stradbroke Day on June 12.

This follows last year’s announcement that Channel Seven and the BRC had entered into an agreement to televise the AAMI Stradbroke Handicap and Channel Seven Queensland Derby live.

Chairman of the Brisbane Racing Club, Kevin Dixon, said Formica embodied attributes that are the “perfect fit” for the Brisbane Racing Carnival brand.

“Sofie is the perfect fit to promote Brisbane’s racing Carnival. She has a warm and engaging personality and a love for all things Queensland, which our customers will respond well to. “Sofie also displays a natural beauty and sense of style, making her a wonderful fashion role model for racing this Winter,” said Mr Dixon.

Sofie said, ““The Brisbane Racing Carnival is a perfect opportunity to catch up with friends, wear fabulous clothes and enjoy one of our countries favourite pastimes. Everyone loves the atmosphere at the track whether you are a professional punter or not.”

Other Channel Seven presenters will be attending the carnival’s rich program of events and race days.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2010-Feb-22, 07:12 PM

Isn't there a new forum rule about posting these news grabs without comment?

Does DD recommend this formica, or not?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-Feb-22, 07:13 PM

Quote from: JWesleyHarding on 2010-Feb-22, 07:12  PM

Isn't there a new forum rule about posting these news grabs without comment?

Does DD recommend this formica, or not?

Only in the Soap Box, and ITN board JWH  ;)

Quote from: JWesleyHarding on 2010-Feb-22, 07:12  PM

Does DD recommend this formica, or not?

I do  :love:

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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2010-Feb-22, 07:16 PM

So he gets off on a technicality.

Fair enough. :whistle:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2010-Feb-22, 07:19 PM

I've never laid formica, and never wanted to.

Obviously some have other opinions.

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Feb-22, 07:30 PM

 :wacko:
give us a update on kdudd,garret and conboy

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Kato on 2010-Feb-22, 07:53 PM

Fantastic  photos of Doomben & Eagle Farm  DD  emthup

Shows just how small & tight the track is at Doomben compared with the farm.

Barriers are so important in any normal race & when you consider the tight turns & short straight at Doomben you realise horses with a bad alley, can be "sacked" very early on in your estimate of who's going to finish in the money.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Feb-22, 08:50 PM

Barriers are so important in any normal race & when you consider the tight turns & short straight at Doomben you realise horses with a bad alley, can be "sacked" very early on in your estimate of who's going to finish in the money.
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And do I know the feeling :no:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Feb-25, 08:41 PM

Hmmmm...

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Feb-25, 08:45 PM

Crikey    :biggrin:  

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Feb-25, 08:53 PM

Hope your subs are paid up, Arsenal.  For both.   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-01, 03:25 PM

Redevelopment of the Doomben Members' Stand is well under way.

Here's a shot looking from the enclosure into the old weigh-out room.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-02, 04:59 PM

Meanwhile over at EF the new water storage facility is 101% full. :)

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Mar-02, 07:54 PM

Dubbles Hope it has a liner that won't leak.

Dam at the golf club is emptying faster than it fills due to faulty liner.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-03, 10:44 AM

No liner on the EF dam. :no:  Cost would have been astronomical.  It's about 40 feet deep!  Plus would barra take to that?

The base is clay, so we'd hope for minimal leakage.  Evaporation would be a bigger problem, I'd guess.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-03, 10:46 AM

DRESS REGULATIONS for MEMBERS' AREAS at Doomben and Eagle Farm

From March 1, the BRC reverted to standard dress regulations. Members and their guests are reminded that Gentlemen are required to again wear a collared shirt with a suit jacket and/or a tie.
   

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-03, 12:37 PM

Media Release from yesterday:


 2 March 2010

The Brisbane Racing Club (BRC) and Hamilton Bowls Club (HBC) announced today that BRC will soon take over the running of the HBC.

HBC Members overwhelmingly accepted the BRC’s proposal.

The new entity will be known as Brisbane Racing Sports & Social Club (BRSSC) and will operate under the BRC’s portfolio once licensing arrangements with the Office of Liquor and Gaming are confirmed.

Mr Dixon said, “The coming together of the two organisations continues the BRC’s philosophy of enhancing community relationships through the provision of ongoing sport and recreation facilities for the surrounding community.

Mr. Dixon continued, “It was always our intention that the Concept Master Plan would embrace and transform some of the local area’s most iconic places such as the HBC, and this is the first step towards the bowls Club’s transformation.

“Facility improvements will be made including the construction of synthetic international standard bowling greens as part of the BRC’s Master Plan,” said Mr Dixon.

Chairman of the HBC, Mr. John Cole said, “The provision of bowls facilities is what we are about. HBC members and the local community are now assured of a bowling facility for years to come”

“The Board of Directors researched all avenues and this was the best avenue for the provision of lawn bowls on offer”.

“We are very happy that the Brisbane Racing Sports & Social Club will conserve the rich heritage that HBC has developed over the years,” said Mr Cole.

HBC Members will automatically receive Membership to the new sporting Club. BRC Members will also receive Social Club Membership. All BRC Members and their guests will be able to gather and socialise at this fully licensed facility seven days a week.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Mar-03, 01:01 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-03, 10:46  AM

DRESS REGULATIONS for MEMBERS' AREAS at Doomben and Eagle Farm

From March 1, the BRC reverted to standard dress regulations. Members and their guests are reminded that Gentlemen are required to again wear a collared shirt with a suit jacket and/or a tie.
   

While there needs to be  reasonable standards I don't think it should be mandatory to wear a tie especially in our climate and the alternative to a tie wearing a jacket is even more ridiculous. :stop:Hats should be compulsory :beer:
Neat ,tidy and clean should be good enough,and no barefeet. :clap2:
Winter time is OK for ties and coats .   emthup  
Women have more options than men. :baby:




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Post by: sobig on 2010-Mar-03, 02:43 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-03, 12:37  PM

Media Release from yesterday:


 2 March 2010

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“Facility improvements will be made including the construction of synthetic international standard bowling greens as part of the BRC’s Master Plan,” said Mr Dixon.

I thought you did not like synthetic surfaces DD

   :lol:     :lol:  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-03, 02:46 PM

sobig

International bowling tournies STIPULATE synthetic surfaces.  Shhhhhhhhhhhh. :shutup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: sobig on 2010-Mar-03, 04:21 PM

You learn something every day

  :biggrin:   :biggrin:

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Post by: manikato1 on 2010-Mar-03, 05:05 PM

Arsenal,

The way I read that, the tie is optional.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Mar-03, 05:09 PM

I think it is a good question regarding the different dress standards from summer to winter.
Why is it so?
Surely if you look OK in summer without a tie or jacket you look the same in winter?

My other question is where has the BRC got all this money to'renovate' parts of Doomben which from an outsiders point of view were fine?
I thought they were financially challenged?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Mar-03, 07:11 PM

Quote from: manikato1 on 2010-Mar-03, 05:05  PM

Arsenal,

The way I read that, the tie is optional.

Only if you wear a coat :stop:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2010-Mar-03, 08:30 PM

DD,

Come on--a tie or jacket---get to the 2010---they need to get with it--smart casual is/should be OK

 :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-04, 12:49 PM

Members are very happy with the new arrangements.  emthup

I've heard some complaints about the drop in standards, none about the requirement for a coat or tie.

I reckon I've been to about 50 AGMs of Brisbane race clubs, and not once has a member got on his feet and complained that the male dress code was too tough.

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Post by: D-G on 2010-Mar-04, 12:57 PM

The question remains though.
Why the difference between summer and winter?
Surely if you look appropriate in summer, you look appropriate in winter at the same venue?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-04, 01:21 PM

The administration of the club believe that to be the case.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Mar-04, 05:58 PM

If  any of those Arabs turn up in their customary robes they won't get in at EF.The bloke on the gate is a Tiger. :stop:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Hsif on 2010-Mar-06, 07:52 PM

I am a member of the BRC and think that they are generally doing a good job but i think they missed the boat with the phantom meeting at Eagle Farm today. There were a large number of people (Hens and Bucks parties included) that were still willing to enjoy super Saturday at the washed Brisbane races, but after a short stay on course decided to move their celebrations to the Hamilton Hotel. With one small bar open in the under cover area it was a little disapointing. I would have much rathered having a beer and a punt at Eagle Farm than moving to the Hamo. Come on BRC get your act together.     
 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: el zoro on 2010-Mar-07, 02:55 PM

Has anyone got the website for the BRC? or are there still 2 sites?  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-07, 03:22 PM

http://www.brc.com.au/

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: el zoro on 2010-Mar-07, 05:04 PM

Thanks dd, trying to fathom the packages but is a bit confusing.  :wacko: Will take another look later.  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-07, 09:50 PM

Zoro, any feedback to the Club on that score will be appreciated.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: richo on 2010-Mar-08, 12:35 PM

trying to find info for a mate anyone got any idea what the condition of doomben track for sat unless there's more rain of course. ty

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Mar-08, 12:38 PM

richo

That's a question for a fortune-teller, but if you want my guess now as I look at the dark clouds hovering to the west of Brisbane, it would be SLOW at best.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: richo on 2010-Mar-08, 12:58 PM

thanks DD thats  what i told him but said i would try to find from someone closer to the track.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-19, 11:05 AM

The new Doomben mounting yard was opened on Saturday.

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Post by: D-G on 2010-Apr-19, 11:45 AM

Do you think it is big enough DD?
I don't
That 18 horse field had them in a dangerous situation.
What is the maximum field size at Doomben?

Otherwise it was visually pleasing I thought

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-19, 11:55 AM

Looks OK to me, DJH.  It's bigger than the old one.

(Current) max field size is 20, I think, but rarely gets to that.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Apr-19, 12:10 PM

Do you know how much bigger?
Like I say that 18 horse field had them stretched to their limits from what me and those around me saw.
The fact owners and trainers as well as a tree are in the middle probably doesn't help.
It will be interesting on 10000 day.
Having said that i do like the concept and for most races it will be great  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Apr-19, 12:29 PM

Just so you know I am prepared to work in a consultants role to assist the BRC should they feel the need  :biggrin:
I will even work for free

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-Apr-19, 01:08 PM

Any more photo's DD ?

Haven't been to Doomben for a while, what happened to the old mounting yard, and is the bar and bookies between the raceday stalls, and the new munting yard  :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: basil_girl on 2010-Apr-19, 01:26 PM

Yes Magic, the bar/bookies near the raceday stalls are still there.  Was there on Saturday.  It’s a good vantage point for watching the horses in the new enclosure.

However, just wanted to check DD – are they doing that bar up?  They still have these terrible miniature TVs to watch the interstate races (which are so old the colour seems to have gone) and the sound quality is terrible.  So basically, you can’t see or hear the races…

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-19, 01:29 PM

DJH, I don't have all the measurements, but the walkway is 2.7 m wide compared to 2.1 in the old.

The perimeter is definitely longer, by a few metres at least.

As for working for free at BRC, if some of the things happening at present come to fruition, everyone will be working for free at BRC. :rant:

MagiC

Nothing more to show right now.  The old mounting yard will be a members' lawn.  Bookies will eventually be moved to a covered area in between the two stands.  (The Champions' Bar will then be given over to the Public, rather than members as it is at present.)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-19, 01:33 PM

BG

I presume you're referring to the Gunsynd Gardens?  If so, a very resounding YES to your question.  It will be made into something special, with BBQ facilities, etc.  On a good day they'll match Brekky Creek. :fry:

The audio/video will be ramped up, for sure.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Apr-19, 01:34 PM

Agree Basil girl.
That area should be a real go ahead area at Doomben with the new enclosure IMO but needs upgrading to do so.
There are only 2 bookies there while the main betting ring remains unchanged.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-Apr-19, 01:40 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-19, 01:33  PM

I presume you're referring to the Gunsynd Gardens?  If so, a very resounding YES to your question.  It will be made into something special, with BBQ facilities, etc.  On a good day they'll match Brekky Creek

    :biggrin:   

Has always been my preferred track to socialise at, sorry DD  :)

These changes sound like a big thunmbs up

improve the facilities, improve the atmosphere, you will improve the crowds     emthup   

And doesn't hurt to attract the young fillies either  :p

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-19, 01:44 PM

MagiC

Re your penultimate line, I hope you right.  But there's nothing to say you will be. :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Apr-19, 01:50 PM

IMO you should be promoting computer use on course, reducing the costs including entry fees( what do you get for your $15?) alcohol $8 a beer give me a break and lobbying the Govt to allow Bookies to field competitively on course.
All these would at least double crowd sizes

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-Apr-19, 02:14 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-19, 01:44  PM

Re your penultimate line, I hope you right.  But there's nothing to say you will be.

No I agree, but I take it from a personal point of view.

I like to drink and socialise at places, that have a great atmosphere, and where I have fun.

Be it a club, night club, or taking the kids to the park for a BBQ.

You go to the places that are better setup, and or are the most fun, we take the kids for a BBQ, we take them to a park with plenty of shade, plenty of swings, and a plenty of grass coverage where I can flop a big blanket and lay down and watch them run around silly while having a drink and a few snags

There is a big market, and probably not the market, that the administrators are looking for, but times are changing, and the younger crowd love to socialise, dress up and have a good time.

Most of which could care less if there were horses there or not.

But put the horses and the betting close to the younger crowds, and the bars you are going to covert a few, and you are going to get people coming back.

You need to get the crowds to the races, not for the racing, but for the event IMHO :)

But half the battle is getting them there, and having everything in the one place, is only going to get them coming back

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-Apr-19, 02:18 PM

Nite cubs are a good example, they are not that big, and I think they like it like that so everybody is crammed in together, it creates a good atmosphere, where people have fun, and want to come back  :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-28, 11:06 AM

Help us shape the future...

Brisbane City Council is planning for the future development of The Racecourse Precinct, which includes the suburbs of Hamilton, Ascot and Hendra.

As part of this neighbourhood planning process, Council is holding a drop-in workshop for people who live, work, and visit the Racecourse Precinct.

Issues for discussion will include:

the enhancement of Racecourse Road centre
the future use and redevelopment of the racecourses
potential uses along Kingsford Smith Drive interface
potential bikeways and footpaths including linkages to the river
the use of parks and recreational spaces
tree planting to create shade ways
walk and cycle friendly suburban streets
The Racecourse Precinct Neighbourhood Planning Workshop is on 29th May from 9:00 - 11:30am at the Hamilton Town Hall.

Find out more about neighbourhood planning in The Racecourse Precinct at

www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/neighbourhoodplanning or contact Brisbane City Council on
(07) 3403 8888.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Apr-28, 12:23 PM

thats if blistered bob lets you do it dd :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-28, 01:11 PM

Brisbane City Council is a bit bigger than BRC.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Apr-28, 01:59 PM

but not bigger than blistered bob,dribblin bill,anna b-lie and law-less and the numb-brains in the qld labor govt...special mention to sgt schulz{acting premier} lucas and foul-mouthed union declared scab in wobbly schwarten :yes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Proud Knight on 2010-Apr-29, 01:24 PM

DD, just spotted the pics of the new mounting yard at Doomben. It looks great. The club should be congratulated.

Reminds me of Ellerslie.

All you need is a nice owners bar for pre-race drinks in the enclosure, like Ellerslie.

Well done !

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-29, 02:09 PM

Yeah, it brightens up the back area at Dbn, and hopefully brings the horses and jockeys closer to the public.  Good that you like it.

The bookies will eventually be near the eastern side, and on the west the Gunsynd Gardens will be upgraded.  All these things take time and money.

The new members' areas should be up and running mid-May.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-29, 02:14 PM

PK

I intended to add...you can be assured that BRC is committed to improving the race-day experience for owners of horses racing on the day.  Obstacle for now is to identify the right area.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Proud Knight on 2010-Apr-29, 02:35 PM

Very good DD.

I think something similar could be achieved at the Gold Coast with a bit of work. The real estate at the front of the track is too valuable not to use for raceday functions or even just a nice members lawn bar area.

But who knows what's going to happen down here? I might even sign up as BRC member soon !

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-29, 02:37 PM

Yeah, the old enclosure is now a members' lawn, and much of the lower level of the grandstand refurbished as members' areas.  This will free up Champions for the public.

You could do worse things than join BRC.  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Apr-29, 02:47 PM

How much does it cost to become a member?
Do you need a nominator and a seconder?
What benefits do members get other than access to the members area?
How long would it take me to get on the committee?  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-29, 03:04 PM

$330 per annum if ya over 30.  $165 if ya under.  Plus a $165 nomination fee.

Nominator and seconder are required.  Club directors will happily do that if ya don't know two members of more than two years' standing.

Benefits: you and a guest get admission to all race meetings (incl Tatts), plus access to members' areas.  (Admission to the Carnival alone has a "value" of $300.  Throw in the access to members' areas and it's near a grand.)  Parking.  Member functions discounts.  Reciprocity at all major interstate clubs.  The unquantifiable benefit of associating with people with a common interest.

There's a form on the website.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Apr-29, 03:25 PM

Sound like pretty good value for a racing enthusiast.  emthup

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Post by: vadim on 2010-Apr-29, 03:30 PM

Quote from: DJH on 2010-Apr-29, 02:47  PM

How long would it take me to get on the committee?

You didn't answer this query DD   :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-29, 04:01 PM

Oh, I wasn't being evasive. :shy:

My answer is n, where n is a number of years between 0 and (life-span - 18).

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-29, 08:59 PM

DJH

I should have added that from May, BRC members will also have their own Brisbane Racing Sports and Social Club at which to eat, drink and gamble (and gambol).  (The old Hamilton Bowls Club which is being purchased by BRC.  It's on BRC land.)

You really can't afford NOT to be a member of BRC.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Apr-29, 09:12 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-29, 08:59  PM

DJH

I should have added that from May, BRC members will also have their own Brisbane Racing Sports and Social Club at which to eat, drink and gamble (and gambol).  (The old Hamilton Bowls Club which is being purchased by BRC.  It's on BRC land.)

You really can't afford NOT to be a member of BRC.

Brilliant!
The BRC are thinking  emthup
Unfortunately I dont go to BRC meetings other than midweeks.
I may become a member anyway, sounds like a good deal

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-29, 09:14 PM

I can assure you the BRC were thinking long before they acquired the Bowls Club.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Apr-29, 09:37 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Apr-29, 09:14  PM

I can assure you the BRC were thinking long before they acquired the Bowls Club.   :lol:  

They are one up on many other clubs then.
Great initiative by BRC, I am rapt.
Hopefully it is marketed properly  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-11, 08:41 PM

Had a look over the new Falvelon Bar and Celebration Lawn at Doomben tonight.

I reckon plenty will be impressed.  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-May-12, 10:26 AM

Vadim

Very funny   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-May-12, 10:30 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-May-11, 08:41  PM

Had a look over the new Falvelon Bar and Celebration Lawn at Doomben tonight.

What NO more photo's  :whistle:

Well I guess I will have to have a look for myself come Saturday then  :huh:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-May-13, 09:50 AM

MagiC

If you are at Doomben Sat rock up and say hello.  I will be the bloke with only one shoe and a limp (have had foot surgery recently).  No jokes please, cause it still hurts.  DD can point me out.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-May-13, 04:16 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-May-13, 09:50  AM

If you are at Doomben Sat rock up and say hello.  I will be the bloke with only one shoe and a limp (have had foot surgery recently).  No jokes please, cause it still hurts.  DD can point me out.

Will do thanks Norton, but will have a couple of questionable types with me  :p

Just to clarify, dress standards, Suit and tie, or can we get away with just suit pants and jacket, and or suit paints and dress shirt and tie, no jacket  ?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-13, 04:19 PM

MagiC

I wouldn't listen to Norton.  He'll turn up in a glue-on shoe, and ya know from just joking that makes him a loser.  :lol:

Seriously, no requirement for suit.  Either dress shirt and tie, or dress shirt and coat.  (Or dress shirt with tie and coat.)

Shoes and trousers are recommended. :yes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: pisces on 2010-May-13, 04:26 PM

Quote from: MagiC~* on 2010-May-13, 04:16  PM

Just to clarify, dress standards, Suit and tie, or can we get away with just suit pants and jacket, and or suit paints and dress shirt and tie, no jacket  ?

Just to clarify?  :what: :what: :what:     Now we're all confused!  

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-May-13, 04:29 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-May-13, 04:19  PM

or dress shirt and coat.

So NO tie  :what:

If NO tie, I will wear dress shirt, and jacket, and pants of course  :)

Really don't like the feeling of having a tie around my neck, maybe because of a past life  :p

But if I have to wear a tie I will, as I do own a couple  :shy:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-13, 04:33 PM

Quote from: pisces on 2010-May-13, 04:26  PM

Just to clarify?  :what: :what: :what:     Now we're all confused!  

Where's the source of confusion, Pisces?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-13, 04:35 PM

OK, I'll simplify it. 

The following are dress code options for males in BRC members' areas in all but summer months:

1.  Suit, dress shirt, tie.

2.  Suit, dress shirt, NO tie.

3. Jacket, dress shirt, tie.

4. Jacket, dress shirt, NO tie.

5.  Dress shirt, tie.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-13, 04:36 PM

How do I know this?  'Cos I was sent home last year for turning up at Dbn with a dress shirt and NO tie. :unsu

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-May-13, 04:38 PM

Thanks DD,

I didn't want to say anything, but I was a little confused too  :whistle:

Clear as mud now  :yes:

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Post by: pisces on 2010-May-13, 05:02 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-May-13, 04:33  PM

Where's the source of confusion, Pisces?

Was a joke DD...............!    :lol:   :lol:   :lol:



No?     :shy:

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Post by: Falcon on 2010-May-13, 07:06 PM

Wonder what women are allowed to wear   :biggrin:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-13, 07:16 PM

Quote from: Falcon on 2010-May-13, 07:06  PM

Wonder what women are allowed to wear     :biggrin:   

Pretty flexible from what I've seen Lots of visible flesh usually except from the more mature ladies. :thumbsup:

What constitutes a "dress"shirt one with a collar I suppose. :beer:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-13, 08:05 PM

Women are advised to dress in keeping with contemporary standards of race-wear. :)

No denim, no bare mid-riffs. :nowink:

Arsenal

I reckon you got it right.  A dress-shirt would be a shirt like you wore to work for 40 years. ;)  I wouldn't try wearing one that hangs out. :no:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-15, 06:48 PM

Sampled the new set up at Doomben for the first time today. :clap2:

New parade  ring is very well done, strong rails,excellent artifical grass in the ring and nice natural grass, looks like sweet smother, on the outscirts with plantings and mulch a nice finish and an elevated viewing area at the rear. :thumbsup:

Only thing missing are a some seating in the shade facing the race day stalls to sit for a spell. :thumbsd:

Looks like all the leaking gutters have been fixed and painted  in the stalls and portholes in some of the back to back stables looks very art deco but probably have a more functional use. :thumbsup:

The old betting ring is empty except for a Subway caravan and I don't think the repacement ring is any improvement,too cramped and closed in for my liking. :thumbsd:

The Gunsynd Gardens has new tables and seating but the TV's were inaudible and the crowd were a lot of noisy drinkers so its a place to be avoided now. :whistle:

Next week will be a test with a capacity crowd  it will be uncomfortable.  Need to open all tote windows many were closed today.:whistle:

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Post by: chuggers on 2010-May-15, 07:23 PM

Arse,

Will you be there on straddy day  ??

 :beer:

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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2010-May-15, 09:46 PM

So, what about ted?

Should we

A Leave him in the car with a lemonade, after pondering whether we should leave the windows tightly wound up?

or

B Tether him to the hitching rail with a nice juicy bone?
 

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-16, 07:29 AM

Quote from: chuggers on 2010-May-15, 07:23  PM

Arse,

Will you be there on straddy day  ??

 :beer:

Hopefully Yes Chuggers   :thumbsup:
Unless its WET

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-16, 08:35 AM

JWH

I think Ted is best left hitched to a post on the footpath outside QRL (they have not changed the sign to RQL as of yesty) entrance with a lunch box and umbrella in order to maintain the rage.

Mind you, we could bring him to Straddie (Bob usually attends) or Ippy / Sunny (Bob will attend) and take him off the leash and watch what happens.  :love: Could sell tickets to that I reckon.

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Post by: motorboater on 2010-May-16, 10:33 AM

Love the new parade ring, however also agree the new betting ring setups are a set backwards.

Too difficult to scan the prices and to also place a bet.  Loved the old style of their being a local and interstate ring... thought it was fantastic.

Hopefully it is just for the carnival.

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-May-16, 12:54 PM

Enjoyed having a beer with a few of the forum regulars at the new Doomben reno   :beer:

Really enjoyed the day  :thumbsup:

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-16, 07:04 PM

And I actually met MagiC.  He really exists.

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Post by: richo on 2010-May-16, 07:16 PM

only in your mind norton he does'nt really exist. :clap2:

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-16, 07:49 PM

Now I am confused Richo.  He looked real.  I tipped him a winner and was afraid he was going to hug me.

BTW there are some good photos from Sat at Doomben on Ross  Stephenson's Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/rossstevensonphotography


You might even see one of Norton when he puts up the social album later this week.

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-May-17, 07:57 AM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-May-16, 07:49  PM

I tipped him a winner and was afraid he was going to hug me.

Yes he did,

Although the thought breifly went through my head to give him a hug, it passed very quickly, and he didn't have anything to worry about  :embarrassed:

  :noteworthy:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-17, 03:25 PM

No doubt the BRC will be monitoring this thread and will take on board the comments re the new set-up.

Overall, the responses were positive.  Considering the project was completed in 72 days, I reckon we were lucky to get as good an outcome as we did. :sweat:

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Post by: vadim on 2010-May-17, 03:52 PM

All in all an exceptional debut :clap2:

I think once we get back to the regulars then we will see the real value. By that I mean Saturday provided those members that come once a year an opportunity for the free champagne & beer (thimbles). Where did you get those "glasses" DD for a medical supply chain?

Not that I spent much time there but some commented that the Favelon Bar was very noisy. The Gunsynd area was no better with most races impossible to hear. This will all,be rectified over time when the crowds reduce to the normal I would assume. I know from personal experience that sound (on both courses) has been subject to numerous investigations but with no improvement. The no. of monitors throughout is to be commended.

Although I was privy to the effect that there was going to be no Owners/Trainers bar this scenario will be a negative particularly over the carnival. There aren't too many places you can have a quiet talk with the trainer and watch a replay whilst we have the crowd of last Saturday.

Congratulations to all concerned in completing the scope of works in the time available.

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-May-17, 03:58 PM

The one negative I had, but DD did say they were looking into rectifying it, and that was the new mounting yard seemed to make it feel disjointed, compared to how you used to be able to walk from the stalls right to the other end, unimpeded.

Not sure how they will fix this, unless they make the horses go back onto the track down through where the race day tie up stalls are, which may give the punters even more chance at looking at them, as they walk past in one line   :what:

Also, apparently they are also doing the area and bar up near the stalls, which will be a massive plus also  
edit: Maybe they could make this the bookies ring  :chin:

:thumbsup:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-18, 12:23 PM

MagiC, I expect the Club will come up with an acceptable arrangement to ensure better access to the bookies from the Gunsynd Garden.

I might add that in the old days, there was a passageway from the parade ring into the enclosure, not dissimilar to what we have now.  When the horses were ready to move out front, those of us who were looking at horses in the stalls area would be "trapped" on the western side of the passageway until the field - often much bigger than today's - proceeded into the saddling paddock.  Of course we knew someone would have knocked off our price by the time we got to the bookies. :)

Arsenal will remember all this. :yes:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-18, 12:25 PM

Any POLO fans on here?

BRC is constructing polo facilities inside the Doomben track.  Likely to have a couple of tournaments there.

Members yesterday received the Polo Calendar for 2010, with the rankings of the polo stars. :chin:

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-18, 12:29 PM

Would love to see DD playing polo.  His golf swing always needed some work, so hopefully exacting that swing from on top of a horse would help.

I will watch safely from the bar tent.

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Post by: vadim on 2010-May-18, 01:32 PM

DD

As F4's are now a popular form of betting why is we continue to show only the first three placings on the main screens?

Only a minor squablle but when the sound is questionable and the Sky screens a mess it wouldn't be too much to show the F4 official rsult along with the starting prices.

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-May-18, 02:43 PM

vads industry burning as you type and support bent bob and your worrying about f4 divvies on the screen...tounge in cheek or you for real part-na?

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Post by: vadim on 2010-May-18, 03:21 PM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2010-May-18, 02:43  PM

vads industry burning as you type and support bent bob and your worrying about f4 divvies on the screen...tounge in cheek or you for real part-na?

 :)

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-May-18, 04:27 PM

 :chin:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-18, 04:59 PM

Quote from: vadim on 2010-May-18, 01:32  PM

DD

As F4's are now a popular form of betting why is we continue to show only the first three placings on the main screens?

Only a minor squablle but when the sound is questionable and the Sky screens a mess it wouldn't be too much to show the F4 official rsult along with the starting prices.

vadim

I always know who's run 4th, 'cause I will have backed it the place. :sad:

Seriously, the Clubs have no input into the screen content - they're hooked up with TABCORP/UNiTAB displays.  Will take a look at it Saturday.

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Post by: vadim on 2010-May-18, 09:31 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-May-18, 04:59  PM

vadim

I always know who's run 4th, 'cause I will have backed it the place. :sad:

Seriously, the Clubs have no input into the screen content - they're hooked up with TABCORP/UNiTAB displays.  Will take a look at it Saturday.

  emthup  or DD

  :biggrin:  for ted

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-May-19, 10:36 AM

tabcorp/unitab vads thats in bobs portfolio of sleaze give him a tingle ole son  :biggrin:

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Post by: vadim on 2010-May-19, 11:08 AM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2010-May-19, 10:36  AM

tabcorp/unitab vads thats in bobs portfolio of sleaze give him a tingle ole son   :biggrin:  

Now that's a thought :)

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-19, 11:23 AM

Vadim

Whilst you are at it, can you get him to reduce the min TAB bet to 50c.  I have not been travelling that well on the punt and need to lower my place betting stake.

You know how it is.

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-May-19, 12:45 PM

looks like the brc,gctc and tsvl turf club are gunna be under the pump with bobs rort being enacted without debate in the next 2 days....viva the revolution.....might have to build a straight track in mackays cane paddocks  :king:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-19, 10:44 PM

From Brisbane Racing Club email to members:

The BRC appreciates the feedback from our Members and your understanding, as we strive to provide a better raceday experience for you.

Thank you to the Members who communicated some areas for improvement. We are pleased to inform you that the following improvements have been made for our Members, in time for this Saturday:

There is now a Members Only entrance at Gate 5
The PA system in the Falvelon Bar and Celebration Lawn has been improved
There are now additional replay screens located
- Outside the committee bar (Left hand screen)
- Celebration Lawn (Eastern end, Left hand screen)
- Falvelon Bar (Western wall, left hand screen)
- Mounting Yard (Left hand screen)
The sound has been increased in the Betting Ring 
 

new use for champions bar at doomben

 
With the Members now enjoying the new Falvelon Bar, Champions Bar has been reassigned as an up market Public Bar.

Members and guests can still access this area free of charge. General Admission pass holders may pay an additional $10  to access this area, subject to meeting the smart casual dress regulations.

The standard is more relaxed than the Members' Reserve, with a jacket and tie not required.

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Post by: vadim on 2010-May-20, 11:43 AM

DD missed one important item;

From this Saturday, Owners with horses running on the raceday will receive complimentary entry for themselves and one guest at Gate 1 (via Nudgee Road) and Gate 4 (via Hampden Street).  Members' Reserve ticketing and one complimentary racebook will also be available for each listed Owner from the Raceday Office.

  emthup

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Post by: motorboater on 2010-May-20, 12:19 PM

Good of them to take some notice and communicate it back  emthup

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-21, 05:21 PM

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-21, 06:07 PM

Last week there was a Fashion Designer Comp won by the  young [attachimg=#]lady in the black in this pic with the judge and the models wearing the winning designs.

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-23, 06:15 PM

This is a view of the new members facilities at Doomben.  Pic is taken from the Broadcast Box atop the Public Stand

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-23, 06:49 PM

One of the Ingham family members shares a joke with a BRC director prior to the presentation of trophies after Stryker's win.  :lol:

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-23, 08:34 PM

This is the new Mounting yard at the back of the member's Stand.  The "tent" covers the new bookies ring.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-24, 08:03 AM

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-May-24, 08:07 AM

looks good any sign of bob bent. >:(

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-24, 09:50 AM

There'll be wall to wall pics with Norton and me on the job. I'll have the box brownie working overtime :beer:

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-May-24, 10:18 AM

arsie work on that focus.......wanna see the dapples on that horses coke and sars.....as opposed to the dimples on bob bent. hairy mars :rolleyes:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-24, 10:23 AM

This is a better one

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-May-26, 05:23 PM

BRC's effort to attract the younger generation to the racetrack:

http://www.brc.com.au/giddy-up-club/

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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2010-May-26, 09:30 PM

 "So check with Mum and Dad to see wether"

 :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears:

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Post by: Spudda028 on 2010-May-26, 09:34 PM

Arsenal. just going back a few posts, the designer who triumphed in the fashions on the field picture is a friend of mine Tovah Cottle. Lovely lady who is in a rich streak of form winning heaps of awards and contracts. Recently secured something with Triumph and is going great guns. Colourful past too, but is doing really really well now. Wish her all the best.

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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2010-May-26, 09:41 PM

DD "So how did you  :censored:  that up?"
Buttons " :censored:  what up?"
DD "Wether"
Buttons " It was great, the sun shone, and it was lovely"
DD " No, "wether" not  the "weather".
Buttons " The kids won't notice"
DD " Some of the kids I have to contend with will"
Buttons " Oh, I forgot about that bloody forum of yours"

 

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-26, 10:51 PM

Quote from: Spudda028 on 2010-May-26, 09:34  PM

Arsenal. just going back a few posts, the designer who triumphed in the fashions on the field picture is a friend of mine Tovah Cottle. Lovely lady who is in a rich streak of form winning heaps of awards and contracts. Recently secured something with Triumph and is going great guns. Colourful past too, but is doing really really well now. Wish her all the best.

Yes Spudda shes been in the news for the wrong reasons in the past but thats all behind her by the looks of things :thumbsup:

May her good fortune continue :clap2:

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-27, 07:53 AM

Spudda

Ross Stephenson's racetrack albums on Facebook have some photos of Ms Cottle from that day.  There is even one of me in there on BTC Cup day.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/rossstevensonphotography

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-29, 10:25 PM

Takeover Target was a big attraction for horse lovers at Doomben today  patiently standing while numerous patrons patted and photographed him.

Not the best pic but as good as I could get with all the activity surrounding him.



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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-29, 10:38 PM

Fasdehere  R3 was very agitated in his stall broke free and threw himself down pinning trainer Keith Smith against the back wall.Taken out to the walkway he stood like a lamb while being saddled and was vetted and cleared to run.He is a giant of a horse and very strong.Today he ran ingloriously.



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Post by: chuggers on 2010-May-29, 10:49 PM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2010-May-29, 10:38  PM

Fasdehere  R3 was very agitated in his stall broke free and threw himself down pinning trainer Keith Smith against the back wall.Taken out to the walkway he stood like a lamb while being saddled and was vetted and cleared to run.He is a giant of a horse and very strong.Today he ran ingloriously.

Arsenal,

This horse similar to High Rollers--as in size   ??

 :beer:

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Post by: Spudda028 on 2010-May-29, 11:43 PM

Let's hope so Arsenal. Tovah and her partner Warren are a great couple and she has certainly kicked some goals lately. Long may her good run continue. Norton thanks for that will have a look now. Cheers guys.

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-30, 08:16 AM

If you have never wonThe Doomben 10,000 with your horse, here is what you get to put in the pool room.

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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-30, 08:20 AM

And what it is like to be the owner(s) as horse & jockey return.


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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-30, 08:21 AM

Quote from: chuggers on 2010-May-29, 10:49  PM

Arsenal,

This horse similar to High Rollers--as in size   ??

 :beer:

He is  very big Chuggers but not sure how he compares to RR who was massive. :/

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-30, 08:25 AM

At the back of the grandstand near the old betting ring this is  a section of the International Food Court where the punters choose from subways german sausage with sauerkraut to hot chips kebabs sushi and donuts' and other delicacies. :beer:
There's something for everyone here. :thumbsup:


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Post by: Norton on 2010-May-30, 11:01 AM

Ross Stevenson has posted on his Facebook page some terrific photos from the 10,000 day yesty.  Well worth a browse.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-May-31, 07:35 PM

Fashions for Couples prizewinners from 10,000 day.
Notice the guy in the middle....cycling gloves?
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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jun-01, 07:34 PM

With the BRC now owning the old Hammo Bowls Club, the new signage is up, and there's lots of racing talk in the bistro.

Enter the Brisbane Racing Sports and Social Club.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jun-02, 10:05 AM

BRC members were advised this morning that the GALLERY BAR will be open at Eagle Farm on Saturday.

This new facility was previously the committee dining room of years ago. 

Has been given a total makeover and looks likely to be a premium location.

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Post by: governor on 2010-Jun-02, 11:24 AM

is baldie on the left related to a pratt?

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-02, 11:29 AM

Shhhhh DD.  That's my new nesting spot.  I don't want it to get too busy.

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-06, 10:05 AM

Plenty of forumites tested out the new digs at EF on Oaks day.  Racehorses came all the way from some bleak southern city to enjoy the sunshine.  Even found a friendly forumite to talk to.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jun-06, 10:08 AM

Fair dinkum, Norton. :rolleyes:  You'd worm ya way in anywhere.  :lol:

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-06, 10:10 AM

The dulcet tones of racecaller and living legend Wayne Wilson may be leaving the airways soon, but there are plenty of budding apprentices looking for a calling gig.  I caught this mob practicing racecalls behind Wayne's back up in the broadcast booth yesty.  What odds we might hear a female racecaller calling the occasional race in the future?

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-06, 10:14 AM

Kav clearly likes winning races in Brisvegas, and he was willing to tell anyone about it too.  Yesty he was practicing winning trainer interviews so his comments after Whobegotyou wins the Straddie goes smoothly.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Jun-07, 06:47 PM

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-07, 07:40 PM

Please explain

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Jun-08, 06:41 AM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Jun-07, 07:40  PM

Please explain

It was a pic from BRC photo site  which didn't work.   :whistle:

Some good ones there too. Pity about that :shy:

 Lets see if this works   :beer:

http://www.brc.com.au/photo-gallery/album/treasury-casino-qld-ladies-oaks-day/

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-08, 07:29 AM

Thanks Arsenal

Most of those shots were taken by Ross Stevenson.  Mentioned previously here, his albums can be found on facebook and are well worth checking each week, especially if you like to review the action on racetracks in the South East.

Here is the man at work last Sat



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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jun-08, 01:27 PM

Gee, even just joking is giving some wraps to the BRC.

Big day looming on Saturday.  emthup

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-09, 05:13 PM

Terrific function for the Barrier Draw today at EF.  All you could eat and drink courtesy of the BRC.  Of course all the usual freeloaders turned up, including well known Forumite Racehorses.  Here she is with her exclusive Straddie selection.  DD and Norton had to rely on fictionals to find theirs so I suggest we all follow Racehorses.

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-09, 05:18 PM

Last pic too hard to see?  The photographer was an amateur from Cairns and is still struggling in the big smoke with the fancy technology.  Here is a closer shot.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jun-10, 08:53 AM

Good stuff, Norton.

Not sure it's a good idea that BRC has bought the Hammo Bowls, though.   :lol:  

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-13, 09:00 AM

The mighty Rough Habit, now 23yrs old, went for a nostalgic walk about Eagle farm yesty.
 

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Jun-13, 09:03 AM

You can still tell the Kiwi spirit was still strong in the old fella.  He chose to stop dead set in front of the VIP marquee for a pose then took a quick dump.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Jun-13, 05:53 PM

Fashion Contest winner third from the right

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Jun-13, 05:56 PM

A couple of fashion plates..........Judges.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jun-14, 09:33 AM

FREE admission to the Garden Racecourse today - for all those who reckon race clubs shouldn't charge admission.

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Post by: D-G on 2010-Jun-24, 02:16 PM

Can someone tell me who is responsible for the information printed in racebooks?
Is it the individual club, Risa or other ?
Continually there are issues.
Yesterday at Doomben in race 5 the stewards summary made no mention of Diago's previous run where he raced ungenourously and was ordered to trial. Would have thought that was worthy of mentioning?
Not as bad as the Gold Coast the day they left out What Happenedhenry altogether, moving all other runners up one number in the book.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jun-29, 09:19 AM

Happy Birthday to Brisbane Racing Club.

 :clap2:  :yay: :hbd: :drinks: :bdn: :icecream: :flowers:  :thumbsup:

Brisbane Racing Club turns one

Queensland’s leading metropolitan race club turns one this month and is celebrating with a huge birthday party at the track on Saturday July 10.

The Anniversary Raceday is the first feature event on the BRCs 2010/11 season calendar and promises to deliver a huge day for racegoers with two black-type races.

Boasting the $150,000 Queensland Cup, Queensland’s only two-mile race, the racing action will supply plenty of spectacle. Nothing beats a 3200 metre contest and Cape Breton’s victory from the tail of the field in 2009 certainly proved this notion. His jockey, gun apprentice Daniel Ganderton, steered the horse to an impressive big win in the last 100 metres of the race.

At this stage, it could be anyone’s victory. History does suggest a good run in the Queensland Cup can lead to a spot in selections for Australia’s most famous horse race, the Melbourne Cup, later in the year.

Sydney jockey, Ganderton, certainly stole the show at this big Brisbane racing event last year, also taking out the other feature race on the program, the $75,000 Listed Ascot Handicap. The talented rider, aboard Battlefield, came charging home in the final stages of the race to defeat Wasted Emotions and Mitanni.

The anniversary day off-track entertainment promises to be just as exciting for the whole family with a host of birthday party activities planned including the zig zagging family favourite Cha Cha ride, kids can bob til they drop on the inflatable Jungle Jive or ride like a real jockey on the pony rides and everybody will love the G-force experience on the Miami Trip.

Brisbane band Velveteen will complete the day’s off-track entertainment playing sets around the day’s racing action.

Racegoers are encouraged to dig deep at the event and support the Wesley Research Institute who is the official charity beneficiary of the event.

The Brisbane Racing Club (BRC) is the result of a merger between the Queensland Turf Club and Brisbane Turf Club, finalized in July 2009.

The Club launched a $1.2 billion Concept Master Plan in April 2009 the aim of which is to make better use of redundant land to create a community oasis in the heart of Brisbane, together with ensuring the city has the country’s finest racing facilities.

In March of this year, the Brisbane Racing Club acquired the Hamilton Bowls Club and at the beginning of this month relaunched the venue as the Brisbane Racing Sports & Social Club.

Construction of a polo field in the centre of Doomben racecourse has begun and planning is underway for two polo events to be held later this year.

Future plans include a range of community, leisure and lifestyle enhancements to the Brisbane Racing precinct such as the introduction of a weekly fresh food market at Eagle Farm racecourse and the development of surplus land surrounding Eagle Farm and Doomben to incorporate residential, retail, lifestyle and commercial facilities.

Plans also include construction of 400 architecturally designed stables and new or improved facilities at for patrons to enjoy at both racetracks.

Tickets to the Anniversary Raceday are just $15 and kids under 18 can enter for free. For further details visit www.brc.com.au or phone 07 3268 2171.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Jul-05, 09:34 AM

The BRC have made the interesting decision to continue the contraction of their business by closing down Doomben as a training centre.
Apparently trainers currently there have 1 month to make alternative plans (someone may be able to clarify that) or in other words get out.
 At the same time the BRC have built a polo field in the centre of the course. Any connection I wonder  :chin:

Decisions like this make it hard for racing folk to be supportive of the clubs.
No wonder the Gold Coast trainers are happy for RacingQueensland to take control down there.
I suspect the support for RQ to control other clubs is growing in the rest of Qld as well.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-05, 10:49 AM

post on the doomben decision on the other thread

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-05, 10:54 AM

ps djh wouldnt go that far....but why cant the little guy get a go at eagle farm is the question....what if bart cummings at 103 yo was at doomben with just 2 horses for the melbourne cup/brc winter carnival and owned the whole street across the road with stables there for many and himself and dato at 99 years old.......would they punt bart and dato to deagon and bob bent.s decaying palaces.... i think not.....most doomben trainers live in the area and hold significant real estate assets of houses stables and land.....

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Jul-05, 12:35 PM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-05, 10:49  AM

post on the doomben decision on the other thread

Oh I get it.
This is only the feelgood BRC thread.   emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-05, 01:16 PM

quite the contray djh... my critical posts on this decision in line with yours are on each thread......praise when due and criticism where relevant....all doomben trainers should be catered for at eagle farm IMO......punting some to deagon or out of the industry also affects the viaability of lesser work riders,farriers,feed merchants,the hamburgerjoint,jockeys,apprentices etc etc....short-sighted and un-consulted decision with a lose lose outcome for the brc and stakeholders :yes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-05, 01:21 PM

pps djh...if you think the doomben trainers/training situation/non-solution is proof enough of entitlement to queensland racing to the most valuable and industry profitable assets delivering them  into the hands of bob bent. and his dropkick labor mate in the awu's dribblin bill you are sadly mistaken...the brc will remain long after bob and bill get the punt in a year and a half's time....that is assured ...bye bob bye porky   :biggrin:   :bye: :bye: :bye: :bye: :bye: :bye: :love:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2010-Jul-05, 01:28 PM

BRISBANE Racing Club will overhaul of its training operations, effectively forcing one and two-horse trainers out of the metropolitan area.

From August 1, all day-to-day training will be done at Eagle Farm, with Doomben only to be used for barrier trials, jumpouts and grass gallops.

The BRC has devised new criteria regarding who receives a permit, with the key being a trainer needing to have had a minimum of 26 starters in the previous 12 months, or demonstrating plans to meet that number.

Trainers will also be charged for a minimum of four horses per day, irrespective of the number in work.

All trainers must make application to train on BRC premises at the beginning of each season and if approved, a 12-month permit will be granted.

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The move is designed to reduce the BRC's losses on training from $700,000 to $500,000, with the savings coming from the need to service only one full-time training facility.

BRC figures show that the top 40 trainers provide 96 per cent of starters, while the remaining 20 make up just 4 per cent, despite accounting for 36 per cent of the floats each morning.

Eagle Farm can only provide 35 float parks.

"Unfortunately, the economies of scale achieved by centralising day-to-day training are too great to ignore," said BRC chief executive Stephen Ferguson.

"We will be working with trainers to minimise any impact."

Racing Queensland chief executive Mal Tuttle said RQL would try to facilitate those ousted trainers at Deagon.

"It is the Brisbane Racing Club's right to make those changes," Tuttle said. "The most important thing is that we don't want to be losing owners, trainers and in particular horses from the industry.

"Deagon can accommodate those trainers, but if they wish to go elsewhere, we will certainly help to whatever extent we can."

Brian Wakefield has been one of the leading trainers at Doomben in recent times.

"It is a little disappointing, but it has been in the wind for a while," Wakefield said.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-05, 01:33 PM

DJH, when I last looked, the closure of Doomben as a training centre was always part of the Master Plan, so no surprise / conspiracy I can see.  It enables the real estate in the centre of Doomben to be used for income generating or community purposes e.g. sports fields, car parking etc.  It makes no sense to have two training centres side by side.  EF was / is to be developed as  training centre of excellence.  

What is causing current concern is who should qualify to train there.  I am yet to hear that debate, but I assume BRC took the first step last week to define some KPI's about that.  Yet to see the details.  Perhaps they are based on benchmarks used for Randwick, Rosehill or Flemington.  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-05, 01:39 PM

so norts i assume the bullring and inside sand that peter moody used so successfully many moons ago will be removed

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: richo on 2010-Jul-05, 02:09 PM

great idea piss all the smaller trainers off in fact ban them from the industry if doombens going so badly maybe sell it off whats next any small business in the brisbane area that only employs a couple of employees chuck them out of town also.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-05, 08:26 PM

Ted, I am now a feather duster in these matters as I am no longer a Director and get my info from the Courier Mail like the rest of us,  but yes, the Master Plan allowed only for the inside grass to be retained for barrier trials.  Canterbury went the same way initially as I recall and now is only the course proper.

Richo, I understand that small / hobby trainers can still participate using the Deagon facility, a few km further down Sandgate Road.....about 10 min drive.  An inconvenience certainly and not a perfect solution for some, but still not necessarily an extinction move.  I don't think anyone intends to shoot Bambi, just move her down the road a bit.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: richo on 2010-Jul-05, 08:47 PM

norton being a small trainer doesn't make them any less a trainer than the bloke with a big team in fact there's not to many of the bigger trainers i would give a horse to but i thought discrimination was illeagle in australia.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2010-Jul-05, 08:58 PM

Magic should take note of ted's coherent posts on this thread and instruct him to desist with the gibberish he goes on with on others.

He shows disrespect for the forum with that crap.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-06, 07:28 AM

Point taken Richo.  I note Trainers meet with BRC CEO today.  Lets see what happens.

JWH, I admit Ted is an acquired taste but just because he us different would be lousy grounds to exclude.  Sometimes he can be extremely funny, and occasionally right on the money. Just ignore if he grates on your goiter. 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-06, 09:25 AM

hoister for ya foister jwh...truth hurts ole mate and labor from the queensland perspective as rotten as they come leaving ole joh and russ look like amatuers....if you disagree please defend :bye:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-06, 09:27 AM

have to agree with todays courier article re-the sacking of doomben littlies........to enact further cost and alienate longtermers seems hasty and un-wise.......my argument as before what if bart cummings was there in semi-retirement with 2 or 3 horses????? would it have happened? dd/norts---yes/no answer will suffice :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-06, 09:29 AM

ps the argument of parking for floats is a firphy before re-devolpment begins....that's if bob bent. the ogre allows it   :biggrin:  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-06, 09:39 AM

pps while its okay to rubbish the decision......and rightly so.........the right decision would have been to invite all trainers to re-locate and ask those small trainers for the preferred times to train their next calway gals.....i.e 4am to 5.30am....5.30 till 7am and 7 am till 8.30 close{id take the last slot due to tiredness}....hand them a small area of stabling and monitor their progress and contribution over 12 months with a review of their contribution to runners per horses trained
note- lots of eagle farms medium sized trainers pre-pare heaps of horses for ready to run and trials for the o/s market with no intention of ever starting =fact
fact 2 =eagle farm doomben trial performance qualifies horses.......point 3 rarely discussed could be how competetive those trials really are at times....over to pandora her box and wade birch....food for thought boys and girls

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Jul-06, 09:44 AM

It's understandable that the BRC want's to cut costs but it seems to me that deciding the issue and then telling trainers  about by letter after it's done wasn't the right thing to do. :whistle:

Now according to the CM Doomben trainers are to meet the BRC in an endeavour to reach a compromise.

It would have been more sensible to invite the trainers to a meeting before announcing the decision to close the training facilities.

Travelling to Deagon would be a hardship for many and no surprise they are dirty on the BRC .

Reports that the BRC would have been $1M better off going with TVN rather than SKY might be raised at this meeting ,seeing this is financially motivated? :o

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-06, 11:29 AM

Ted et al.

Based on your arguements, Bambi trainers have a case.  BRC have a bottom line $$ wise.  So it seems a little arbitration should occur.  Lets see what happens.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-06, 11:37 AM

who are "bambi trainers"?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-06, 11:45 AM

Bambi = Cute small ones that frolic around with just a horse or two.  Nice guys who are not in Sheik Mohammeds iPhone contacts list but you never want to harm.   No one shoots Bambi in the Disney movie Ted.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: richo on 2010-Jul-06, 01:01 PM

shit norton i'd be the ugliest bambi youve ever seen.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-06, 01:08 PM

nice for bambi/bambino's  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-06, 02:33 PM

Shucks Richo, ya mum thought you were cute, even before you beacme a trainer.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-06, 06:01 PM

dd,MIA?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Vintage on 2010-Jul-06, 08:05 PM

Norton - To suggest that Deagon is 10 mins down the road and would be an inconvenience is not taking into account the traffic jam that is the gateway/sandgate road during the normal training hours. 

It is interesting to read the BRC constitution in that it only talks about promoting race meetings at EF and Doomben and nothing around the inputs to these meetings ie the training of horses.

From what I have read and heard it sounds like a disgraceful process around this decision for those people affected. 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-06, 08:10 PM

its 30 minutes.......fairs fair...the uptake of doomben/merger of equals should not see the trainers of doomben unfairly treated and punted....dd? MIA? :rolleyes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: richo on 2010-Jul-06, 08:13 PM

more chance of horses getting hurt in floats in traffic than walking down a back street to the track.How would you like to have bought a house and stables for 3 or 4 horses around doomben or eagle farm and you can watch horses being worked on the track but you have to float yours to deagon, no wonder trainers are treated like 2nd class citizens.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2010-Jul-06, 09:43 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Jul-06, 11:45  AM

Bambi = Cute small ones that frolic around with just a horse or two.  Nice guys who are not in Sheik Mohammeds iPhone contacts list but you never want to harm.   No one shoots Bambi in the Disney movie Ted.

Norton,

But I have seen Bambi meets Godzilla---the latter in this case is BRC.  Google you tube  "bambi meets godzilla"---you'll love it.    :biggrin:

 :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Spudda028 on 2010-Jul-07, 07:07 AM

Any forum members going to Eagle Farm Saturday?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-07, 07:26 AM

Not me Spudda.   Won't be seen until August.  Planning to bob up at Moonee Valley and Morphetville soon though.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-07, 07:39 AM

My crusty Kiwi mate BJ gave em heaps testy.  Has never taken a backward step in his life, and gave the BRC both barrels.  BRC CEO was listening hard:

"would take concerns from the meeting back to the BRC board.  It was a good meeting, everyone had a chance to say their view.  If there are alternative solutions they will be considered."

Onya BJ.  He could easily train a winner (or two) at Doomben today.  He is the best in the business.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-07, 07:45 AM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-06, 06:01  PM

dd,MIA?

You got a mission for me, ted? :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-07, 07:46 AM

Chuggers.  Good call.

Bambi meets a better fate in the Disney original.  Lets see what happens.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-07, 07:52 AM

Quote from: Spudda028 on 2010-Jul-07, 07:07  AM

Any forum members going to Eagle Farm Saturday?

God-willing I shall be there, Spudda. :)

Did ya get ya membership sorted?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-07, 08:16 AM

na mate....just reading the courier article re -doomben trainers....my posts yesterday echo the words of b smith re-bart cummings having 2 horses and wanting to train at the farm....also wasnt the merger to the brc a merger of equals=yes....shouldnt that goodwill be extended to doomben trainers
ps i better apply pretty quick i think im still on the doomed-ben list :thumbsup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Jul-07, 08:24 AM

Quote from: Spudda028 on 2010-Jul-07, 07:07  AM

Any forum members going to Eagle Farm Saturday?

I'll be there if you want to catch up. I expect to have Funtantes in.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Jul-07, 09:08 AM

TOP trainer Brian Smith has made an impassioned plea to Brisbane Racing Club to stop plans to cull small trainers from using their facilities.

The BRC last week announced it was closing Doomben as a training venue in a move it predicts will save it $200,000.

It requires all licensed trainers to re-apply for permission to train at Eagle Farm.

Strict criteria are being invoked to "centralise" training, which is clearly aimed at trainers, mainly from Doomben, with small teams.

One of the criteria is that a trainer must have had 26 starters in the previous year. The trainer also must consent to paying fees through direct debit for four horses a day (about $140 a week), even if they have just one horse in work.

Smith, who operates a large team from Eagle Farm, said the new standards should not apply to present licensees, but be phased in over a period of time. He also believes charging trainers for horses they do not have in work is unfair.

"I've been through it all and what they're trying to do is disgusting. One day I'll get to an age when I'll want one or two horses," Smith told a trainers' meeting yesterday.

"I can't see why they can't put a few (stalls) down one end of Eagle Farm and a few somewhere else on the course.

"People have bought places in this area, I know the committee has gone into this, but for Christ's sake have a bit of compassion for people.

"I'd like to say to (BRC CEO Stephen Ferguson), it is bullshit. Let these people finish and make the rule apply to the new people that come in over the next few years. I seriously think if you're training one horse you shouldn't be paying for four."

Brisbane radio personality Kim Mothershaw, who trains a couple of horses at Doomben, opened the meeting.

Mothershaw said the clause to charge for four horses was unfair and trainers like Neil Strong, Lorraine Erhart and others should feel insulted.

"Some of these people have been the backbone of the industry for many years," Mothershaw said.

"And I cannot understand how we can be charged for four horses minimum.

"To me there is no other reason than to get the little bloke out of the industry."

Ferguson asked all trainers to fill out the form by the July 14 deadline.

But he said he would take concerns from the meeting back to the BRC board.

"It was a good meeting, everyone had a chance to say their view," Ferguson said.

"If there are alternative solutions they will be considered."

It is expected 15-20 trainers will be affected by the changes and have the option to train elsewhere or to hand in their brief on the August 1 deadline.


The above from today's CM by Nathan Exelby :thumbsup:

In another CM report trainers want to meet with RQ  Here's what Bob said :p

"Racing Queensland chairman Bob Bentley said he was prepared to meet with trainers but would tell them it was a BRC matter.

"We're prepared to meet with trainers at any time but this has nothing to do with us," Bentley said.

"If Racing Queensland owned the facility this would not be happening."


In other words Bobs not interested unless the BRC hands over ownership. :stop:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-07, 09:13 AM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2010-Jul-07, 09:08  AM

In another CM report trainers want to meet with RQ  Here's what Bob said :p

"Racing Queensland chairman Bob Bentley said he was prepared to meet with trainers but would tell them it was a BRC matter.

"We're prepared to meet with trainers at any time but this has nothing to do with us," Bentley said.

"If Racing Queensland owned the facility this would not be happening."

No it wouldn't be happening. :nowink:  They'd be at Wacol, and to buy the racetracks there'd be a major reduction in prizemoney. :yes:

Or maybe all that's forgotten. :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-07, 09:30 AM

onya bob bent. ya labor troll/trollop/mutt.........dd the analogy of bart cummings having 2 in work at doomben both melb cup runners from last years melbourne cup? send him to deagon?....we both know the answer do we not :baby:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-07, 11:46 AM

ted, with the utmost of respect, there's more chance of you serving as Premier in a Qld Labor Government.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-07, 12:15 PM

sorry mate as labor premier in relation to what?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Vintage on 2010-Jul-07, 06:23 PM

Quote from: Spudda028 on 2010-Jul-07, 07:07  AM

Any forum members going to Eagle Farm Saturday?

Planning to be there Spudda, I've got a few extra dollars to turnover  :whistle:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: elleelle on 2010-Jul-07, 07:27 PM

Intersting bit of info 4 everyone.Pat duff couldnt get down to the gold coast quick enough and hold hands with grant morgan and give the club down there a kicking over the potential increase  in training fees.Why arent they both showing the same vigor attacking the BRC hasnt the phone call come from deagon yet...

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Spudda028 on 2010-Jul-07, 07:29 PM

Umm, membership, yes well, sort of.....

Still trying to justify in my head the extra 50% entrance fee to the club surcharge for first year. That sort of fee went out in the dark ages. It's making it a little expensive for the first up outlay. Just had rego and new term classes to outlay.

So maybe a few weeks away for that. But I will join this year!!!!

Vintage and some well deserved dollars to spend too mate. I might PM you guys with my number as I don't have anyone's from the forum anymore.....Look forward ot catching up.

Good luck Vadim with Funtantes if in on Sat. too.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-08, 08:14 AM

poor silly old pat...should retire while he's ahead with his "fortunate" land purchase at deagon a few blue moons and racing ministers ago......his despised son in merri's former racing adviser in milo mcduff is still up the arse of state labor with snout firmly in the pig trough....some even say he monitorsd this site.....if he does hi milo  :noteworthy:
suck it up milo your time like bob and bill's is coming....enjoy the last swills over the next year and a half

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-08, 10:40 AM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-07, 12:15  PM

sorry mate as labor premier in relation to what?

In relation to Bart turning up with a float containing 2 horses.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-08, 10:45 AM

yes mate if cummings was training 2 in semi-retirement at doomben would the decision made now under protest been made.....its a hypo so you can answer it im sure..........merger of equals should have this factored in.....as b smith said surely a place can made and times staggered.....then review performances after 1 year.....in the case of paying for 4 a day even if you have 1 or 2 which ted e hasnt commented on it doesnt look real fair or sensible....giving rise to bob bent. saying this wouldnt be a issue if qr took over the farm and doomed-ben :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-08, 11:12 AM

And if a meteorite landed on Dbn there'll be no Dbn.....

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-08, 12:20 PM

speaking in metaphors there dd....see dd you have tedittus....its catching just like jwh,woddy and walter blind melon are joining the lnp....anyways due to sensitivity of the situation and position im sure dicko and fergo will sort out a reasonable comprimise in the merger of equals...at this stage with my point made ill sign off on the issue and let the goodwill created by b smiths :)
comments pervade the current situation  :noteworthy:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Jul-10, 08:14 PM

I am told the BRC are the ONLY club in SE Qld who will no longer accept the Owners card.  emthdown
Having also announced the closing of Doomben as a training centre this week one has to wonder what the future holds for metropolitan racing in Queensland.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-11, 10:10 AM

Today's SM reports BRC CEO as having said that the Club's willing to talk to anyone who wants to share the facilities.  Even the racing pigeons.   :lol:   :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: specialweek on 2010-Jul-11, 10:41 AM

Quote from: DJH on 2010-Jul-10, 08:14  PM

I am told the BRC are the ONLY club in SE Qld who will no longer accept the Owners card.  emthdown
Having also announced the closing of Doomben as a training centre this week one has to wonder what the future holds for metropolitan racing in Queensland.

The'Exciting' new owners card is on the way.................... Not that I should be too concerned as not expecting a track visit soon but why the BRC decision to not recognise the card?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-11, 11:02 AM

Owners of runners at Brisbane venues are well looked after - according to owners I speak to.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-11, 11:15 AM

Congrats to BRC director Bill SEXTON on winning the jumps race in SA yesterday.   :clap2:

Bill is on business in US, but no doubt will enjoy seeing the video on his return this week.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-13, 08:19 AM

DD

Gee, I thought BRC benefited by about $30K per year for honouring the Owners Card.  Why walk away from that?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 10:49 AM

No way, Norton.  The BRC gets NOUGHT so far as I know.

The whole concept of the OC needs a serious rethink.  (Hopefully that's happening right now.)

For example, let's take away the idea that if I owned a hair in the tail of a horse a couple of years back in Townsville it entitles me to free entry plus plus at every race-track in Qld for the rest of my life.  Wonder what those who actually PAY to go to the races think of that? :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Jul-13, 11:21 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 10:49  AM

For example, let's take away the idea that if I owned a hair in the tail of a horse a couple of years back

So we resolve this and the BRC will recognise the card as every  other Club has done.  :noteworthy:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 11:25 AM

vads another qr rort is it not....if you have a horse running on the day ,hospitality will/should be extended.........if you a high flyer such as yourself and you head to the wrecked country tracks like oak park etc ....do you believe you should be allowed in for free with no runners depriving the once a year venue of once a year revenue?......hence the demise of smaller clubs finances and bob bent.s use of auditors.....your go now vads put up or shut up :no1:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 11:28 AM

vadim

You'll need to talk to BRC about that....but as an owner, I would not have the temerity to expect FREE entry plus a members' area pass to any racecourse unless the horse I owned was running that day.

The OC concept was seriously flawed from day one.  And remains so in its present form.

Its prime intention was to strengthen the QROA.  That hasn't happened.  I'll join QROA when they are seen as an independent industry group - but not before.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 11:32 AM

And just on the matter of why BRC has abandoned its support, whereas other clubs have not - it might be that other clubs have nothing to lose by recognising the owners card.  :chin:

How many owners would turn up at Twba on Sat night when their horse wasn't running?  I'll start with ZERO.  Anyone like to bid higher?

From what I see, BRC are concentrating their efforts on improving the day for owners who have horses RUNNING at their meetings.  That's a reasonable approach, IMO.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 11:32 AM

dd arent the qroa a independant group....just cause bob bent. gives em offices and admin. surely not :bop:
i miss the mammy....bob bent.s orange boy and owner of that good nag drenalin
ps anyone come up with those pre-race swab numbers for the goldy......who says qr/qrl/rq doesnt play /lay favourites=ted e  :lol:
ps hi porky you stakeholder trough swilling suckhole

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 11:33 AM

1=vads

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Jul-13, 11:48 AM

Ted & DD

The same card/same conditions has existed in VIC for years.

You can't regard it as a RQ rort.

I would have thought in this day and age we should be encouraging everyone to the races to increase the expenditure on catering etc whereby the Club can and do make money.

From first hand experience the cost to the Club is negligible as the card is usual only presented by those Owners from outside the Metro area (confirmed by actually monitoring the gate - not by speculation). Most Owners within the Metro area are members of the BRC anyway and they don't show their card for entry.

This has become more of a political impasse rather than having any justification.

As noted earlier DD has a point re "past" Owners and this could and should be resolved.

All Owners' should repsect the fact that the main days associated with each of the supporting Clubs are off limit and all dues payable unless of course you have a starter.

As for Toowoomba I had the opportunity to visit two weeks ago and arrived in time for the third through a gate unmanned. I must admit i enjoyed my first experience of the cushion track along with the other patrons on a cold & windy night.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 11:51 AM

vads you should join anna b-lies brigade and give her some help with the eloquence exibited in your last post....so birdsville should honour 500 owners cards for their annuals at a cost of 10,000 in gate takings?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Jul-13, 11:55 AM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 11:51  AM

vads you should join anna b-lies brigade and give her some help with the eloquence exibited in your last post....so birdsville should honour 500 owners cards for their annuals at a cost of 10,000 in gate takings?

Ted

Please read my post again.

I have clearly stated that they should not have to on their main days and that means Birdsville on their one & only day. I can't be more clearer.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 12:00 PM

thats why you should seek out withers/dithers in the office of climate change/nancy boys for anna office.......you'd be running the show till election day very quickly :clap2:
ps you got a suggestion of where to send bob bent. and crew on permanent holidays after the next state election....maybe racing fiji/fiji racing pty ltd?????? :whistle:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: poxdoctor on 2010-Jul-13, 12:54 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 11:32  AM

From what I see, BRC are concentrating their efforts on improving the day for owners who have horses RUNNING at their meetings.  That's a reasonable approach, IMO.

They would have a fair bit of work to do from my experience.

The VIC model is good. It gives owners a pretty fair go, but allows clubs to earn gate revenue on their biggest days.  It certainly doesn't give an owner a right to free entry any time anywhere. http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/p_Owners_Card.aspx (http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/p_Owners_Card.aspx)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 03:46 PM

poxdoctor

You can be sure that the CEO of BRC would be receptive to constructive criticism (and suggestions) based on your recent experiences at BRC venues.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 04:09 PM

vadim

A few comments:

1.  What happens in Victoria with the Owners' Card equivalent is a poor analogy and has no relevance.  Victorian clubs haven't been starved of funds (as have the major Qld clubs).

2.  It's not just a matter of losses at the entry gate or what happens on big days.  I expect BRC is very mindful of potential damage to its membership base - who provide a half-million bucks or so each year - by offering de facto membership to anyone who's had a share in a horse anywhere in Qld in recent years.  Loss of membership earnings would be another kick in the guts for the finances.

3.  Those who originally put up the "owners' card" concept knew there was consequential damage to race clubs coffers.  Why else would they have put up the $30,000 carrot?  Do you know why the promise of the $30,000 was withdrawn.  As I see it, was a very poor way to do business.

4.  The fact that you enjoyed hospitality at Twba recently had nothing to do with the "owners' card" attracting you to the races for a "free night".  So let's get that clear.  You'd have been there living it up regardless of the existence of the OC.

5.  I stand by my claim that all other clubs (apart from BRC) had NIL to lose by accepting the OC.  I expect their decision was made on political rather than financial grounds.  (I expect the BRC's decision was made on financial grounds.)

6.  I am an owner, but contribute far more to the racing game as a punter.  I don't expect a free entry to any and every race track.  It puzzles me somewhat that we have punters turning over hundreds of thousands a year on TABs - and contributing several per cent of that to racing's prizemoney - but they aren't given a punters' card in recognition of their generosity to owners.  I repeat my bewilderment that someone who owned a share of horse that it now spelling, or too old to race, would expect free entry to any racecourse when their horse was not running.

7.  Owners (and I am one) will say "there's no racing without owners".  Punters (and I am one) will say "there's no racing without punters".  What's more important is that there'll be no racing without race clubs who have developed waste tracts of land into what we now race on week in, week out.  If the list of racing's free-loaders keeps growing, you can get ready for sweepstakes racing.

8. My own view is that there is a place for an OC of some sort, but the present format is a loser.  Also, IMO, the OC should be tied to membership of QROA.  But until QROA get themselves untied from RQ's apron their credibility will be suspect in the minds of many potential members.   (And I'm stunned that the QROA executive can't see that.)  I say, get out of Deagon, be self-sufficient, be a true advocate for owners, and enjoy the fruit.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-13, 04:25 PM

Blimey, sorry I asked.  

When I was last immersed in this stuff there was an expectation that the Clubs would be reimbursed somehow so that Owners got a benefit but not at any cost to the Club.  Obviously that is a point of contention for some.   I would have thought Clubs would be more interested in selling memberships than giving away income.  One owner in for free will spend up as Vadim points out, but I reckon one member owner with three guests members will spend even more.  In Victoria where this began, a club member has to pay extra for guest badges.  Never been the case in Bris.

Returning to owners with a runner, I don't have any problem with an owner getting free admission and club priviledges for the day.  Otherwise it is a bit like asking Brendan Fevola to pay to get into the gabba so he can play a game of footy for the Lions ..........hmm on his current form, that might not be a bad idea.

The MRC, VRC & STC offer spectacular lounges for owners but you have to be wearing your Enclosure ticket for the race to be admitted i.e. you have to have a runner on the day.  In their bars you get free food and drink, and can watch endless replays and see the sectional times posted to help dissect why you are not in the winners bar post race.     I would love to see that replicated in Brisvegas, and maybe in the new redevelopments it will be.

So who actually bears the cost attributed to holding a Owners Card?  What is the measure for negligible / insignificant.  $30K used to be a decent fare where I came from.



Vadim, nice to see you can sneak into racetracks without paying.  But for a bloke of your size, I betcha ya can't do it daylight.

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Jul-13, 04:41 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 04:09  PM

vadim

A few comments:

1.  What happens in Victoria with the Owners' Card equivalent is a poor analogy and has no relevance.  Victorian clubs haven't been starved of funds (as have the major Qld clubs).
 
We all know why the BRC is lacking $950,000 annually - the fault of previous blind governance not Owners.

2.  It's not just a matter of losses at the entry gate or what happens on big days.  I expect BRC is very mindful of potential damage to its membership base - who provide a half-million bucks or so each year - by offering de facto membership to anyone who's had a share in a horse anywhere in Qld in recent years.  Loss of membership earnings would be another kick in the guts for the finances.

I have answered this comment previously. I know the effect it had on the BTC.

3.  Those who originally put up the "owners' card" concept knew there was consequential damage to race clubs coffers.  Why else would they have put up the $30,000 carrot?  Do you know why the promise of the $30,000 was withdrawn.  As I see it, was a very poor way to do business.

After my time but always thought that compensation was unwarranted.

4.  The fact that you enjoyed hospitality at Twba recently had nothing to do with the "owners' card" attracting you to the races for a "free night".  So let's get that clear.  You'd have been there living it up regardless of the existence of the OC.

The last time I will tell you anything in confidence :bye: :bye:

5.  I stand by my claim that all other clubs (apart from BRC) had NIL to lose by accepting the OC.  I expect their decision was made on political rather than financial grounds.  (I expect the BRC's decision was made on financial grounds.)

I would like to see the financials substantiated :chin:

6.  I am an owner, but contribute far more to the racing game as a punter.  I don't expect a free entry to any and every race track.  It puzzles me somewhat that we have punters turning over hundreds of thousands a year on TABs - and contributing several per cent of that to racing's prizemoney - but they aren't given a punters' card in recognition of their generosity to owners.  I repeat my bewilderment that someone who owned a share of horse that it now spelling, or too old to race, would expect free entry to any racecourse when their horse was not running.

Agree and this needs fixing up  

7.  Owners (and I am one) will say "there's no racing without owners".  Punters (and I am one) will say "there's no racing without punters".  What's more important is that there'll be no racing without race clubs who have developed waste tracts of land into what we now race on week in, week out.  If the list of racing's free-loaders keeps growing, you can get ready for sweepstakes racing.

You are exaggerating the free-loader numbers if referring to OC.

8. My own view is that there is a place for an OC of some sort, but the present format is a loser.  Also, IMO, the OC should be tied to membership of QROA.  But until QROA get themselves untied from RQ's apron their credibility will be suspect in the minds of many potential members.   (And I'm stunned that the QROA executive can't see that.)  I say, get out of Deagon, be self-sufficient, be a true advocate for owners, and enjoy the fruit.

I am not going there. I was retired a couple of years ago :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Jul-13, 06:56 PM

Doomben trainers in Limbo........ :o


http://www.superracing.com.au/couriermail/story/Doombens-small-trainers-in-limbo/15826

Checking the trainers with runners at EF on Saturday I  found  there were only 5 from Doomben.
Brian Wakefield had 3 runners the rest only one each and apart from BW these trainers would be  amongst those at risk I expect unless a compromise is reached to accomodate them at EF. :sweat:
By the same token there are a number of EF trainers who would  be regarded as small trainers  with only a handful of horses yet they aren't subject to the same  pressure as their counterparts on the other side of Nudgee Rd. :whistle:

Tomorrow is the deadline for Doomben trainers to apply to train at EF hopefully all who apply will be accepted. :thumbsup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 07:01 PM

Norton, yes $30,000 is a fair bit of money - it was when it was offered as part of the package, and it still is (although not paid).

vadim, whether you or I think $30,000 payment in consideration of a club's acceptance of the OC is/was warranted is totally irrelevant.  What is relevant is that it appears to have been offered to the clubs as a "sweetener" and then withdrawn.  As I said, not very good way to do business.

Finally, it's becoming apparent to all that race clubs do not have a bottomless pit of money and are struggling to get near a break-even situation.  Shame that they're the ones who cop most of the costs in running training and race meetings, yet all the earnings from betting go elsewhere to be handled as others think fit. emthdown

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: specialweek on 2010-Jul-13, 07:18 PM

DD, are there numbers available that indicate owners have exploited this privilege?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Jul-13, 07:21 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 07:01  PM

Finally, it's becoming apparent to all that race clubs do not have a bottomless pit of money and are struggling to get near a break-even situation.  Shame that they're the ones who cop most of the costs in running training and race meetings, yet all the earnings from betting go elsewhere to be handled as others think fit. emthdown

Who is to blame for this???

Did the race clubs negotiate their deals with the controlling bodies and Sky channel? Or were they dictated to?
If they were dictated to it is illegal to Federal law.
If they negotiated, all directors  should  hang their heads in shame and be promptly removed from their positions

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 07:22 PM

SW, I'm not saying anyone has exploited anything.

My point above is that race clubs have to make tough calls these days.  I daresay directors don't enjoy doing such things, but they do have an obligation to shareholders.

My own view is that if I own a share in a horse that's currently racing at woop-woop I have no right to free-load on every other race club in Qld.  I do expect privileges at the track when my horse is racing (at that track).

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 07:27 PM

Quote from: DJH on 2010-Jul-13, 07:21  PM

Who is to blame for this???

Did the race clubs negotiate their deals with the controlling bodies and Sky channel? Or were they dictated to?
If they were dictated to it is illegal to Federal law.
If they negotiated, all directors  should  hang their heads in shame and be promptly removed from their positions

You offering yourself as a director, DJH?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Jul-13, 07:30 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 07:27  PM

You offering yourself as a director, DJH?

I am part crazy, so....... maybe
In fact YES, and I don't want anything out of it other than racing to thrive.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 07:32 PM

Noble ambition.  emthup   The allowances paid to race club directors will set you up for life.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Jul-13, 07:43 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 07:32  PM

Noble ambition.   emthup    The allowances paid to race club directors will set you up for life.   :lol:  

Don't want allowances of any kind, and don't have hidden agendas.I just want the industry I love to survive and thrive.
I am an owner, trainer, punter, part time media( helping Racingwrap.com) and looking at breeding this year or the next.
I attend over 200 race meetings a year in Qld alone and am 33yo.
Technically I am the ideal candidate to take racing forward   :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-13, 08:11 PM

DJH I thought Julia was already tasked with taking anything and everything in Australia forward.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Jul-13, 08:13 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Jul-13, 08:11  PM

DJH I thought Julia was already tasked with taking anything and everything in Australia forward.

 :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

Unfortunately she is a politician and as such has racing on her hit list of things to get rid of  :(

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-13, 08:20 PM

DJH

Your credentials seem hard to beat.  There'll be 4 vacancies on BRC in a coupla years.  Dunno about the other race clubs around the ridges.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 08:50 PM

techinally so is ted e.....but the bones of the soon to be departed will not have cured yet...so young ted e will have to train again and rightly so in the essence of time this era of queensland racing will be declared the most rorted/corrupted and divisional ever seen in the anals of bob bent.s history of racing in queensland...if you dont believe ted e djh try emailing by pigeon to jj atkins......fools and thiefs never prosper for long...note exception to the rule must be the awus dribblin bill and his sidekicks/dropkicks in son joe and bob bent.
the stakeholders will have a say djh so neck up  :shutup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Jul-13, 08:59 PM

Quote from: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 08:50  PM

techinally so is ted e.....but the bones of the soon to be departed will not have cured yet...so young ted e will have to train again and rightly so in the essence of time this era of queensland racing will be declared the most rorted/corrupted and divisional ever seen in the anals of bob bent.s history of racing in queensland...if you dont believe ted e djh try emailing by pigeon to jj atkins......fools and thiefs never prosper for long...note exception to the rule must be the awus dribblin bill and his sidekicks/dropkicks in son joe and bob bent.
the stakeholders will have a say djh so neck up  :shutup:

Am I missing something Ted??

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 09:02 PM

yeah mate honesty and integrity...aka rq and their new cop on the beat in wank-king aka wayne king....after the next state election benley and ludwig and their rotten labor crew will be sacked and stakeholders will vote on the people that run this once great industry

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-13, 09:04 PM

truth hurts does it not dd....shush shush nitey nite labor trolls...ps porky eat it up son 60 odd weeks and it ends  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2010-Jul-13, 09:11 PM

In a way I hope Labor gets done in the federal election and the next Queensland one.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-14, 07:41 AM

Will advise Tony immediately, the slogan to defeat Julia's "Moving Forward" should be "Do it for Ted".

DD, I note only 4 vacancies next BRC Board in 2012.  Should be 8 I reckon.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-14, 08:48 AM

Whyzat, Norton.  Not a fan of the current bunch?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-14, 08:49 AM

Some of em sleep through meetings I reckon.  You probably use No Doze I assume.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-14, 08:52 AM

Oh, right.  :lol:

You got a team of 8 lined up to take over?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Jul-14, 09:51 AM

God forbid no.  But i suspect Bob has a solution

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: pisces on 2010-Jul-14, 11:11 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-14, 08:52  AM

Oh, right.    :lol:   

You got a team of 8 lined up to take over?

We've got one on the Goldie that anyone can have!  He won't go from our Board despite the other 8 members voting him OFF!!!! He simply won't go!   :no: :no: :no:
Some people just don't know when they are not wanted!    :embarrassed:

Forgot to mention...............all he requires is free car park, free drinks, free food!  His contribution?    :censored:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: elleelle on 2010-Jul-16, 06:07 PM

DD i think you will find that if the clubs are not compensated as promised,more clubs will join the brc on the owners card issue.Obviously clubs that are under the thumb of bob the builder and his team will not rock the boat........Keep your eyes and ears open.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-17, 10:49 AM

will be good to see thenew federal govt start the hunting of bob bent. and dribblin bill ludwig.....country racing is a bastion of thefabric of society in country queensland and australia

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Jul-17, 10:52 AM

ps with a close contest its gunna hurt bentleys tab board mate in bird and fellow director ludwig to shell out millions in slanderous advertising from their private company labor party holdings,....but like qrl,rq is a must to hold power at all costs........lets hope these d-grade scumbag rorting parassites get kicked in the balls like the country racingindustry has......go the lnp and tony abbott

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-22, 12:14 PM

Early reports indicate that the Sydney race clubs are being offered a sweetener of $175 million to accept the merger recommendation. :clap2:

The Brisbane clubs were PENALISED $1 mill for merging. :rant:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Jul-22, 12:32 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-22, 12:14  PM

Early reports indicate that the Sydney race clubs  are being offered a sweetener of $175 million to accept the merger recommendation. :clap2:

The Brisbane clubs were PENALISED $1 mill for merging. :rant:

I think it is Racing NSW isn't?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Jul-22, 08:04 PM

Here's the message to AJC members.  Looks like the money's going to the Clubs - as it should be.  

Shame that Qld Govt doesn't understand what's happening to BRC - or doesn't want to. :chin:

The key elements of the announcement a
a. The Sydney Turf Club (merged Club) will receive $24 million to upgrade facilities and tracks at Rosehill Gardens.
b. The AJC (merged Club) will receive $150 million to refurbish grandstands and event facilities for Members and patrons at Royal Randwick; and
c. This offer from the Government is entirely contingent upon the merger of the AJC and STC.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Jul-23, 07:52 AM

Trainers reach a deal
Bart Sinclair
From: CM Thursday, 22 July 2010
A COMPROMISE deal has been brokered to allow trainers affected by the closure of the Doomben training tracks to utilise Eagle Farm facilities.

Three weeks ago, Brisbane Racing Club foreshadowed the demise of the Doomben training tracks in a cost-cutting drive which was estimated to save the club $200,000.

At the time, the BRC said Eagle Farm could not cope with additional horses and horse floats in the existing morning stalls area.

The BRC called for applications from on- and off-course trainers currently based at Eagle Farm and Doomben for permission to use Eagle Farm work facilities.

After these were received a meeting was held between the BRC chief executive, Stephen Ferguson, and trainers' representatives.

"We are delighted to get a good result from this process, one which will allow all the trainers who lodged an application to be accommodated at Eagle Farm," BRC chairman Kevin Dixon said.

"I congratulate the trainers on proposing some alternatives to current practices to allow all local trainers with training facilities.

"It's a win-win all round because the club can still make the significant cost savings by closing the under-used Doomben training tracks."

The sticking points in the original concept involved Workplace, Health and Safety issues, tie-up stalls and horse float movements. These have now been overcome with plans to build additional tie-up stalls near the 600m mark.

Trainers will be categorised into two groups with set areas and training times.

The new permits will begin on August 1, with a transition period of one month.

Under the new BRC training formula, trainers will only be required to pay fees for the number of horses they have in work.

The Eagle Farm training situation will be reviewed after six months. Trainers with less than an average of four horses in training in that period will be directed to use the 600m tie-up stalls.

Alls well that ends well :thumbsup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Vintage on 2010-Jul-23, 07:06 PM

sounds like a better process is in place   emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Aug-04, 08:38 AM

According to a report in today's CM, BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon has responded to Victorian claims that Qld clubs "missed an opportunity" when opting to go with Sky (rather than TVN) in assigning broadcast rights.

"TVN made it very clear they only had partial interest in Queensland and it was very important to us that we did nothing to jeopardise the interest of our kindred clubs", said Dixon.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Aug-08, 09:02 PM

I was getting off topic on the other thread and I have a few questions.

1) Where are the results boards at the metro tracks ( and by the way I can't find them at any track that I go to these days other than EF midweeks in the members area)
2) The times given at EF on race day are only to 1 decimal place and when I get home they are different ie to 2 dp. Can anything be done about it?
3) Why does Doomben sell Coke yet EF doesn't  >:(
4)Are there any ATMs at Doomben- I asked everyone a couple of weeks ago and did 3 laps before I found 1 in the members. Are there any for public on Sats?

I have more but will leave it there for now.

Thanks

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Aug-08, 09:04 PM

Oh... am I 100/1 of anyone on the BRC committtee nominating me for membership   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Aug-08, 09:06 PM

DJH

Just shoot them into the CEO....he'll be pleased to reply.  Might even send you a complimentary for providing such useful feedback.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Aug-08, 09:14 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Aug-08, 09:06  PM

DJH

Just shoot them into the CEO....he'll be pleased to reply.  Might even send you a complimentary for providing such useful feedback.

I will do that DD   emthup
You worded it well, as that is all it is feedback. It is not intended as an attack on anyone or anything ( although it may come across that way)

On the complimentaries......They still "owe me one" as I won a racebook comp giving me free entry to mlb cup day. It turned out to be the year EI called off all the meetings and so it was useless.   :lol:   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Aug-21, 07:46 AM

Readers of the C-M might be interested in an item on the Brisbane Racing Precinct in the "Prime Site" section of yesterday's edition (pp 90-91).

Said BRC Chairman, Kevin Dixon: "I can absolutely say that this plan is based on both racetracks continuing to be racetracks."  :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Aug-22, 07:30 AM

Congrats to BRC director Bill Sexton for having a winner at Warwick Farm the jumps race in Adelaide yesterday.   :clap2:

I reckon the latter would have caused Bill some more grey hairs.   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Aug-22, 09:08 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Aug-21, 07:46  AM

Readers of the C-M might be interested in an item on the Brisbane Racing Precinct in the "Prime Site" section of yesterday's edition (pp 90-91).

Said BRC Chairman, Kevin Dixon: "I can absolutely say that this plan is based on both racetracks continuing to be racetracks."  :clap2:

"2800 apartments over three locations"...........Good luck with that. :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-05, 09:32 AM

Fire this morning destroyed the house at Eagle Farm previously occupied by the racecourse manager.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Sep-05, 09:57 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-05, 09:32  AM

Fire this morning destroyed the house at Eagle Farm previously occupied by the racecourse manager.

That is a pity. Last time I went to EF midweek I parked down that way and walked the rest of the way. I commented to my wife when I got home how it looked to be a nice place.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-05, 10:03 AM

Yes, it is a pity. :sad:

Firies and scientific squad investigating.

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Sep-05, 11:31 AM

was schucky still living there or was it vacant dd?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-05, 11:35 AM

no/yes

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Sep-06, 11:00 AM

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Post by: gratlog on 2010-Sep-06, 11:03 AM

Room for more stables

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-06, 02:20 PM

Won't be any new stables until the redevelopment, I'd say.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-07, 12:11 PM

Bart Sinclair reports in today's C-M that BRC has lost $3.1 million in its first year of operation.  :chin:

Says BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon, "Queensland owners and race clubs, two of the small number of stakeholders who keep racing viable, are not getting a fair return on the investment they make".

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Sep-08, 07:11 AM

Gee DD, that's a fair hit.  Do you have to chip in to help pay the electricity bill?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-08, 08:01 AM

Not as yet, Norton.  :nowink:

I suspect the first call for payment of rates, electricity, etc, will come from Directors' fees. :rolleyes:

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Sep-08, 10:03 PM

see bumbling bob bent. has more dribble up on his propoganda website....parasite :rant:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-09, 07:57 AM

Bob's Letter to the Editor of The Courier-Mail:

To the Editor

I write in reply to an article published in The Courier-Mail (BRC a first year loser, 7th September). In the article Brisbane Racing Club Chairman Kevin Dixon blamed the club’s financial woes on Racing Queensland Limited (RQL) policies. Had The Courier Mail sought RQL comment it would have found out a vastly different story.

Mr Dixon claimed the administration subsidy of approximately $1 million is insufficient for the BRC. It should be remembered this $1 million is on top of mutually agreed operational savings to the BRC of approximately another $1 million annually. So that is more than $2 million worth of assistance and yet the BRC still posted a $3.1 million loss.

It is unjustifiable for race clubs that post significant operating losses annually to apportion blame to the control body. As Mr Dixon has said, clubs need to determine their own destiny and yet he now asks for further handouts.

I am also perplexed about the BRC master plan. Mr Dixon has constantly championed it as self-funding, stating it would secure the financial future of the amalgamated metropolitan racing club. Under law, RQL must approve the master plan as it contemplates the disposal of an asset. Mr Dixon said the plan would be submitted in the next two months but despite numerous requests for critical information, so that it can be assessed by RQL only a part of the information has been provided.

RQL has also negotiated substantial wagering tax relief from the Bligh Labor Government that would see in excess of $80 million returned to the industry over a period of four years for capital development. Due to the BRC master plan being self-funding, Mr Dixon has already outlined that his club does not require any of this capital funding. Blaming RQL for the BRC’s financial performance should be seen for what it is - a furphy.

Mr Dixon refers to RQL coming up with a "game changer”. The new equity partnership model currently being negotiated with a number of clubs is the game changer that Mr Dixon as yet seems unwilling or unable to grasp the significant advantages that it will deliver.

Stakeholders other than Mr Dixon understand that prizemoney can only be paid out of recurring income and the BRC seeking greater funds only puts greater burden on distributions for prizemoney.

The assertion in the article by Bart Sinclair that RQL is "being set up to be privatised or sold” is as irresponsible as it is impossible. Mr Dixon surely is playing politics and stakeholders should see this type of comment for what it is.

The BRC, in seeking to balance its budget should be mindful of the generous executive salaries that are currently being paid and its relativity to the scope and size of the club operations. The BRC should look at its own operation before giving gratuitous advice.

In the meantime, RQL will continue discussing its asset plan with the three codes of racing in Queensland which is scheduled to be released in mid-October this year.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-09, 08:02 AM

Another approach would have been to thank the Editor for bringing to the public's attention the parlous state of racing, in particular the difficulties faced by race clubs in maintaining facilities, which through no fault of their own, are up to150 years old.

It would also have been reasonable to thank the BRC and its member for their continued commitment - in the face of obstacles put in front of them by others - to provide training and racing tracks without which the industry would be well and truly down the gurgler.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-09, 09:31 AM

The 2010 Annual Report is available on the BRC website.

http://www.brc.com.au/about-the-brc/corporate-info/reports-publications/

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Sep-09, 09:43 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-09, 09:31  AM

The 2010 Annual Report is available on the BRC website.

http://www.brc.com.au/about-the-brc/corporate-info/reports-publications/

And a very comprehensive one too  emthup .

 Giving the  opposition parliamentary reps The Hon.title  is premature,maybe after the next election the prediction will come true. :whistle:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-09, 10:42 AM

Yeah, a lot of effort goes into it, and full credit to those BRC staff who put it all together.  emthup

I expect the club will be criticised for printing it in colour. :sad:

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Sep-09, 10:44 AM

why such a big loss dd?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-09, 10:52 AM

Depreciation is over 2 mill to begin with.  The expenditure on capital works in recent years has kicked that higher.  Movement of funds from cash into essential/discretionary capital works obviously reduces investment income.  

Catering earnings from corporate clients are reduced due to the current economic downturn/crisis/stagnation.

And as pointed out, the combined Club was penalised for merging by Bob removing 1 mill from the so-called (but seriously mis-named) Administration fee paid to the the two clubs alone.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Sep-10, 03:42 PM

Bob's letter to the Editor got a guernsey today in the CM although edited in some respects from the version posted by dubbles previously. :o

One thing that struck me on reading the published CM version was the disrespectful way of addressing the BRC chair as plain "Dixon" whereas in the letter penned by Bob he referred to him as Mr.Dixon.  emthup

CM causing trouble,  :shutup: we don't need any help.  :lol:  

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Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Sep-10, 03:53 PM

all are surprised the cm didnt do more on the disgrace that is the hall of shame/infamy
hi porky piglet :wavecry:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-10, 07:22 PM

The first Polo event to be held at Doomben takes place on 23 October.

http://www.doombenpolo.com.au/

If ya wanna see last year's event (in Sydney) take a peek at this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VahgBHOSEzk

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-12, 03:19 PM

I guess we can standby for another bomb to be thrown from the Deagon bunker after this volley from Bart Sinclair.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-12, 09:04 PM

Yesterday and today, Eagle Farm hosted huge gatherings of Opera and Symphony fans attending concerts as part of the Brisbane Festival. :no1:

I doubt we'll see a lot of these when RQ takes over the Brisbane racecourses. :unsu

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Post by: p on 2010-Sep-12, 09:48 PM

i see the annual report shows trainers fee revenue of $790,000 for 480 horses which averages to about $4.50 a day

flemington 2009 annual report states "At present, the cost per horse to train at Flemington is less than $1 per day" (pg 9)

anyone able to shed light on what are the stable rent fees and trainers fee they charge at brc?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 07:39 AM

A quick call to the BRC should answer that, p.

You a trainer, owner, observer?

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Post by: gratlog on 2010-Sep-13, 08:01 AM

DD, as we know stress can be a killer so i suggest you just sign the BRC over to Bob now and sit back and be a happy punter like myself.  :biggrin:

Seriously it would be good to see what is going to happen in the next state election.  Hopeless trying to guess at this stage as 18 months is a long time in politics.

No matter what happens we will still be able to have a bet somewhere on some thing.

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Sep-13, 08:07 AM

P
Comparing apples with oranges there...VRC v BRC.  The VRC obtains significantly more in training and other subsidies from RVL. 

Gratlog
In a post Bligh LNP Govt I suspect the Bentley days will quickly become a fond memory.  Even Ted will be smiling LOL, and could reveal his true persona to us.

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Post by: gratlog on 2010-Sep-13, 08:26 AM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Sep-13, 08:07  AM

 

Gratlog
In a post Bligh LNP Govt I suspect the Bentley days will quickly become a fond memory.  Even Ted will be smiling LOL, and could reveal his true persona to us.

Yes mate, I would agree if the election was now but this is Qld.  Remember in Brisbane when Jim Soorley got to be Mayor?  He was very big odds to win that.

BTW I laughed when Jim S and Beatie clashed the other day.  I heard Jim say the Beatie should p---ss off back to America and shut his big mouth.  :biggrin:   They never were mates.

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Post by: Norton on 2010-Sep-13, 09:17 AM

Gratlog

The Soorley win, way back when, was mainly due to ending the longevity of Sally Ann who had become a bit arrogant and had lost touch with the electorate.  Just as Anna looks now.

I doubt if the problems that plague racing in Qld will be an electoral issue.  What will cause the demise of Anna will be debacles in Health, Water and privatisation.  Changes to racing governance will be a by product.  Continuing crises in Health and the payroll saga should easily deliver Govt to the LNP.  Even the labour crusted ons (no offence intended) can see the failures there.  An angry electorate is rarely forgiving.

No, I think Bob's goose is pretty well cooked in an red hot electoral landscape for Labour.  And the more he remains adversarial towards the Clubs and fails to increase prizemoney he will continue to be a longshot to survive.

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Post by: gratlog on 2010-Sep-13, 10:10 AM

What I would like to see re Qld politics is for someone like Mal Brough step up to the plate for the LNP.
The current bunch are no better than Anna's mob.

Mal is one of the better pollies that we have had in Aussie for sometime imo.

BTW I don't always support Labor. This last election I did some letter box drops for the LNP bloke.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 10:16 AM

gratlog, you've been telling us for years that you're a swinging voter.  Just that you always swing the same way.  :lol:   Now ya not considering voting green are ya?

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Post by: gratlog on 2010-Sep-13, 11:04 AM

No way. If the Greens get in you won't be able to catch your bream of the front porch.  They want to close a lot of fishing grounds down.  Imagine what they would do to the racing game.

EF and doomben would be parks  :biggrin:

I did support the LNP out here this time around as I don't reckon the ALP bloke( Craig Emerson) does his job. Unfortunately it was to not successful.  Maybe next time.

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Post by: vadim on 2010-Sep-13, 12:47 PM

Quote from: p on 2010-Sep-12, 09:48  PM

i see the annual report shows trainers fee revenue of $790,000 for 480 horses which averages to about $4.50 a day

flemington 2009 annual report states "At present, the cost per horse to train at Flemington is less than $1 per day" (pg 9)

anyone able to shed light on what are the stable rent fees and trainers fee they charge at brc?

You make a very pointed statement p and it has been dismissed without proper reasoning by both norton & dubbledee.

The facts are;

A trainer with say 30 boxes @ BRC is charged $7,475 per month for shared stabling (i.e 249.17 per horse) + a further $65 per horse for services (including water, electricity & manure removal.

Therefore the daily cost per horse is $9,425.10 x 12 / 356/30 = $10.33

Your assessment is way out.

The facilities were built 3 years ago (EI period) and were paid for in two years with a clear message to the trainers that once the stables were paid off the club would look at reducing the cost to trainers/owners alike. That has never happened as it is very clear that the revenue from this stream is more than any other cost centre. Management is doing the best possible for the club and that is understood.

Clearly the state of the on course stabling cannot be compared with the Melbourne facilities - it is obvious that more monies comes from the VR. However we race in Brisbane for less prizemoney but pay more for stables that don't even approach our southern trainers.

Perhaps it is time for RQ to step up and provide all of the training for the Metro facilities and remove the cost/revenue from the BRC?

Gee will this start a debate  :biggrin:

 

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 12:49 PM

Ah, so there was an agenda behind p's question.  :lol:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 12:52 PM

Quote from: vadim on 2010-Sep-13, 12:47  PM

Perhaps it is time for RQ to step up and provide all of the training for the Metro facilities and remove the cost/revenue from the BRC?

Perhaps it's time for RQ to do what the relevant legislation sets out - rather than spend millions acquiring racecourses.

Plus...do what the orginal TAB agreement was...which was to channel earnings from wagering to race clubs, rather than waste in on loans/gifts/whatever to race clubs impoverished due to RQL policies.

Now that will start a debate.  :lol:

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Post by: vadim on 2010-Sep-13, 12:55 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 12:52  PM

Perhaps it's time for RQ to do what the relevant legislation sets out - rather than spend millions acquiring racecourses.

Plus...do what the orginal TAB agreement was...which was to channel earnings from wagering to race clubs, rather than waste in on loans/gifts/whatever to race clubs impoverished due to RQL policies.

Now that will start a debate.   :lol:  

2 minutes by my count - can't get the seconds :clap2:

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Post by: gratlog on 2010-Sep-13, 04:19 PM

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/gratlog/doom.jpg)

Just enquiring about a little on the history of Doomben.

Even DD and Norton weren't around when the straight six was finished  :biggrin:  but I was wondering did John Wren own Doomben in those days?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 08:02 PM

gratlog

On Dbn, my recollection is that Wren and his mates ran the show from the 20s to early 30s.  It was a private operation and they made a squillion.  The government outlawed proprietary racing in early 1930s, and I believe the government took over in some way.  However, BATC (to become BTC) leased it until early 1950s when the Club purchased it.  (It could be that Wren and his mates OWNED the track until 1953 or thereabouts.)

The straight track was built in around 1933, and was in operation till the War took over in 1941.  US troops lived at both Dbn and EF.  The straight six was cut off to expand the old Eagle Farm aerodrome.  At close of the War, the main circuit was given back to BATC to continue their racing, but the straight track was gonski.

Hope this helps.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 08:09 PM

Quote from: vadim on 2010-Sep-13, 12:47  PM

You make a very pointed statement p and it has been dismissed without proper reasoning by both norton & dubbledee.

Perhaps it is time for RQ to step up and provide all of the training for the Metro facilities and remove the cost/revenue from the BRC?

Gee will this start a debate    :biggrin:  

Perhaps MagiC can let us know how things are going with the new stabling at Sunshine Coast - this is the sort of show vadim is advocating.

Anyone in there yet?  Anyone paying any rent?  If so, how much?  (It was reportedly "oversubscribed".   :nowink: )

If the cost for stabling at EF is in fact around $10 a day - as an owner I'd be very satisfied to be paying that to have my horse stabled in a warm, dry, secure box, within walking distance of the best training facilities around SEQ.  Trainers charge around $70 a day for training, so 15% towards my horse's lodging is very fair, IMO.

And of course the question that needs to be asked is what the costs will be when Bob takes over?  If it's less than present, will this mean a decrease in prizemoney? :chin:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 08:30 PM

Quote from: gratlog on 2010-Sep-13, 04:19  PM

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/gratlog/doom.jpg)

Just enquiring about a little on the history of Doomben.

Even DD and Norton weren't around when the straight six was finished     :biggrin:     but I was wondering did John Wren own Doomben in those days?

gratlog, just to prove I was around, here's a pic I took during the War.  Sorry my BB wasn't too flash, but you'll get the idea.  ;)

Note all the army camps, and the planes on the new airport.  The straight track can be seen going top left to bottom right.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-14, 10:00 AM

Interested to see the semi-cylindrical hangars at the air-strip.  I'm pretty sure they were still in use at the old Brissie airport well into the 60s and 70s.  They'd had a coat of paint of course.  :lol:

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Post by: gratlog on 2010-Sep-14, 10:35 AM

Those hangars were still there in 1970 I reckon as I was giving a mate a hand to take some Courier mails down there to be put on the small planes so they could be taken to regional areas.

We drove into one of those small hangars.

Might try to track that book of Frank Hardy's down.  Power Without Glory.

That was about Wren and those times.

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Post by: arthur on 2010-Sep-14, 11:29 AM

Is it mentioned in QR's recently published "history" ? . . My copy is on loan

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Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-14, 12:14 PM

Don't have it to check, arthur.

Wren and Nathan operated several tracks in the early part of the 1900s.  I think Kedron, Deagon, Albion Park, and Doomben.  (These were the glory days of "unregistered" racing.  Bob would have liked that.)  The Creek started in the 1880s or so, but Wren bought it in 1910 for 25,000 pounds.  A group of locals got hold of it 1922 and they became the foundation members of BATC.

The John Wren of PWG fame was the son of Irish migrant JW Snr.  There have been a few other JWs born since then.  The guy were talking about died in 1953.

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Post by: vadim on 2010-Sep-14, 12:20 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 08:09  PM

Perhaps MagiC can let us know how things are going with the new stabling at Sunshine Coast - this is the sort of show vadim is advocating.

Lets have a look:

I understand they are leasing in 16 box lots

On a 6 month lease each box would cost $70/month, 2 year lease $65 & 5 years $62.50.

If you were to say lease 48 boxes over 5 years then this reduces to 57.50.

The leasing arrangement gives access to 8 horse walkers (ratio 1:32 horses), sandroll (1:32), hosedown (1:16).

On top of this there is a charge for training of $15/week which allows access to grass gallops and the pool.

Should you require grass jump-outs they cost $20.

Therefore as a comparision say we take 32 boxes on a 5 year lease then cost per horse;

62.50/month + $15/week = $750/annum + $780/annum = $1,530/365 = $4.19/day


Oops hold fire.

If I am going to compare apples with apples (Norton phrase) I should add that the BRC also charge an extra $4.00/day for track fees.

Therefore the comparision is $14.33/day versus $4.19/day for Sunshine Coast.

i.e approximatley 29.23% of BRC cost.

I understand that the SCTC cost/day might refelct the cost of training on the Gold Coast in time.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Sep-14, 03:48 PM

Quote from: p on 2010-Sep-12, 09:48  PM

i see the annual report shows trainers fee revenue of $790,000 for 480 horses which averages to about $4.50 a day

p this amount is for track fees only not all of the other associated costs listed independently.

You will note that on p26 the total revenue for stable, track & barrier trial fees is $2,215,719.

If you take the horses stabled on site then that income is 230 x 14.33 x 365 = $1,203,000

The the income received from horses not stabled on site is (480-230) x 4 x 365 = $365,000

I can only presume that the balance of $647,719 has been generated from barrier trial fees ;)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Sep-14, 03:54 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-13, 08:09  PM

If the cost for stabling at EF is in fact around $10 a day - as an owner I'd be very satisfied to be paying that to have my horse stabled in a warm, dry, secure box, within walking distance of the best training facilities around SEQ.  Trainers charge around $70 a day for training, so 15% towards my horse's lodging is very fair, IMO.]

From a statement like this I can only assume you get your horses trained elsewhere

Perhaps you should have a read of the following blog courtesy of Graham Potter;

http://horseracingonly.com.au/racing-article.aspx?id=968

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Post by: vadim on 2010-Sep-14, 04:06 PM

Is it true that the Club will now not have a recurring income received in the past as developed by the junior partner and to the Sound of Music?

Perhaps this is the reason patrons whom attend now have to reserve tables normally available to club members.  So much for looking after the regulars. It seems now that our membership fees allow us to get in the gate and have access to the members areas but after that reserve or else :rant:

So much for encouraging members to attend :chin:

There is an old saying shut the gate on something for someone and they will never return :rant:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Sep-14, 04:09 PM

hopefully shut the elevator doors on bob bent.s head and problems solved :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-14, 07:05 PM

Quote from: vadim on 2010-Sep-14, 12:20  PM

Lets have a look:

I understand they are leasing in 16 box lots

On a 6 month lease each box would cost $70/month, 2 year lease $65 & 5 years $62.50.

If you were to say lease 48 boxes over 5 years then this reduces to 57.50.

The leasing arrangement gives access to 8 horse walkers (ratio 1:32 horses), sandroll (1:32), hosedown (1:16).

On top of this there is a charge for training of $15/week which allows access to grass gallops and the pool.

Should you require grass jump-outs they cost $20.

Therefore as a comparision say we take 32 boxes on a 5 year lease then cost per horse;

62.50/month + $15/week = $750/annum + $780/annum = $1,530/365 = $4.19/day


Oops hold fire.

If I am going to compare apples with apples (Norton phrase) I should add that the BRC also charge an extra $4.00/day for track fees.

Therefore the comparision is $14.33/day versus $4.19/day for Sunshine Coast.

i.e approximatley 29.23% of BRC cost.

I understand that the SCTC cost/day might refelct the cost of training on the Gold Coast in time.

vadim, thanks for that.  

That 5-year package of 32 boxes would be attractive to how many trainers in SEQ?  One???

My own view - and from what I can ascertain it's shared by many others - is that the EF training facilities are way better than what's on offer at SC.  I don't hear of anyone wanting to leave EF and head north.  You might know more on that???

But I wasn't asking about costs...

The questions were, is anyone in there, and how much are they paying.  I gather there were a lot of introductory offers over the Carnival at mates' rates?  Would that be true?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Sep-14, 07:29 PM

vads maybe you should step up to the plate when bob gets barred post state election.......that is after a democratic vote of stakeholders state wide....you know a bit like the democracy this country runs on federally{3 years},a bit like the way the states operate{3years},a bit like the way local councils function{3 years} and somewhat like the way sporting organizations perform year after year and decade after decade..........its called democracy and its big in most parts of the world unfortunately not all as WE all know{BOB BENT.--BOB MUGABE}.......vads you think bill ludwig will still be the chair of country racing post election being a city boy and all :no1:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Sep-14, 09:24 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-14, 07:05  PM

vadim, thanks for that.  

I notice you have no argument wuth the facts :biggrin:

That 5-year package of 32 boxes would be attractive to how many trainers in SEQ?  One???

Surely you are remarking in jest. There are two or three trainers alone @ BRC who are in that category alone. Perhaps if the BRC rate continues they all might end up at the SCTC or the GCTC thus ending the junket currently extended to the club.  What have I said previously about shutting the gate on participants  :no:

I know it for a fact that it does not cost $65/horse for services. Try something closer to less than $20 - that wiill be the driving factor :nowink:

My own view - and from what I can ascertain it's shared by many others - is that the EF training facilities are way better than what's on offer at SC.  

And who  might you be referring to? Name some names ;)

I don't hear of anyone wanting to leave EF and head north.  You might know more on that???

Will all depend on the cost eventually. The club has a major problem with debt collecting as has been made obvious in the recent past. I wonder why?

But I wasn't asking about costs...

Becasue you have no justifiable answers!

The questions were, is anyone in there, and how much are they paying.  I gather there were a lot of introductory offers over the Carnival at mates' rates?  Would that be true?

I clearly remember the QTC  offering mates rates - whats the difference? Do you want me to name names - no I don't think you will? I understand that boxes are made available to southern trainers during our carnival at a cost - not gimmes. Not unlike the Govt giving $400,000 to have Oprah come out here  :lol:

I think you will find there are trainers domiciled in there - as well you know. Might even be one of the leaders who is very satisified with the outcome. Even gets his swadust removed and replaced at cost :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-15, 09:19 AM

vadim, you're letting past events impact on your objectivity.  Ya used to wanna throw rocks at QTC, now ya starting on BRC.  :unsu Ya gotta take Jooooolia's advice and move on. ;)

Just a few comments...

1.  Feel free to name any names you like.  I'm not an apologist for anyone. :nowink:

2.  You seem somewhat irritated that BRC is using a legitimate income source (stabling built by QTC from its own funds to help owners and trainers during EI) in order to stem their losses - due to their commitment to provide training and racing facilities.  Or would you prefer to see them go down the gurgler completely and let Bob take over?

3.  What BRC does at EF with their stabling over the Winter Carnival is purely a decision for them.  (If they provide accommodation - free or otherwise - for horses racing over the Carnival - that's their business.) What happens at SC is another matter.  The five star SC facilities were built with money that should have been directed into prize-money.   Building a spelling farm for southern horses during the winter would not be my idea of good value for money.

4.  Re the number of trainers attracted by the option at SC - yes there are numerous potential customers, but where are they?  Nowhere to be seen at SC.  They prefer EF with its numerous training options.

5.  You continue to bleat about costs of EF stabling/training.  Yes they are high, but that's the price of training these days, I guess.  Market forces will determine the future of EF.  As an owner I'd much prefer to pay the going rate than see money that should be going into prizemoney siphoned to support my personal "hobby".

6.  So we can get all the info re SC except how many trainers are in the new complex and what they're paying.  We all know what the advertised rate is. :shutup:  And how's the big international quarantine station going up there?   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Sep-15, 10:08 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-15, 09:19  AM

vadim, you're letting past events impact on your objectivity.  Ya used to wanna throw rocks at QTC, now ya starting on BRC.  :unsu Ya gotta take Jooooolia's advice and move on. ;)

Just a few comments...

1.  Feel free to name any names you like.  I'm not an apologist for anyone. :nowink:

2.  You seem somewhat irritated that BRC is using a legitimate income source (stabling built by QTC from its own funds to help owners and trainers during EI) in order to stem their losses - due to their commitment to provide training and racing facilities.  Or would you prefer to see them go down the gurgler completely and let Bob take over?

3.  What BRC does at EF with their stabling over the Winter Carnival is purely a decision for them.  (If they provide accommodation - free or otherwise - for horses racing over the Carnival - that's their business.) What happens at SC is another matter.  The five star SC facilities were built with money that should have been directed into prize-money.   Building a spelling farm for southern horses during the winter would not be my idea of good value for money.

4.  Re the number of trainers attracted by the option at SC - yes there are numerous potential customers, but where are they?  Nowhere to be seen at SC.  They prefer EF with its numerous training options.

5.  You continue to bleat about costs of EF stabling/training.  Yes they are high, but that's the price of training these days, I guess.  Market forces will determine the future of EF.  As an owner I'd much prefer to pay the going rate than see money that should be going into prizemoney siphoned to support my personal "hobby".

6.  So we can get all the info re SC except how many trainers are in the new complex and what they're paying.  We all know what the advertised rate is. :shutup:  And how's the big international quarantine station going up there?    :lol:  

I have looked at the cost of training at both centres in what I would like to think in a quantified way - all at the prompting of p. I never brought the subject up

Past events have nothing to do with my current thinking. I would be more of a supporter of the club than a detractor but I will call it as I see it. I would also attend and use the club facilities more than most and still watch my horses working in the early hours at EF ;)

Your point 2 does not deserve a response.

How many of the current EF trainers are new? I would imagine that most have been within the Metro area for years as revealed when the decision was made to condense the operations to EF only. Note that I was one of the few supporters of  this decision. The preference for the EF facilities is more driven from where they are domiciled not the training environment.

I would also imagine that if we had built the tunnel under the old crossing years ago when we had the opportunity then the prolonged entry & exit from the training tracks would not be a problem. Some have said that that is why we have the leading trainers because they by necessity they have to walk their horses for 15 minutes before & after the track gallops :) It is a fact that this adds to the trainers wages bill.

I am not privy to the names of the trainers at the SC and would imagine just like any business it will take time to realise its full potential.

Finally I have only pointed out the facts. I won't get personal like your current post.

Good luck dubbledee - we just have to agree to disagree :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Sep-15, 10:25 AM

agree to disagree.... :thumbsup:
democracy vs dictatorship :what: :whistle:
hi porky piglet  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-15, 11:36 AM

vadim

I'm not agreeing to anything. :nowink:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-15, 11:51 AM

From letsgohorseracing.com.au

RACING’S POLITICAL ROLLER COASTER OF CLAIMS AND COUNTER CLAIMS

IT came as no surprise to anyone who has followed racing in Queensland over the years that the Courier-Mail Racing Editor Bart Sinclair has transferred his role as PR man for the old QTC to the BRC and went strongly into bat against RQ over the big loss posted recently by the new merged entity.

What did come as a surprise was the lack of balls that you web site has shown on this issue. What’s the story? You have been conspicuous by your silence in criticizing this disgraceful state of financial affairs at the BRC. Are you in bed with them as well as Sinclair because of your dislike for RQ and its Board?

Of course Sinclair and his good mate, the BRC chairman, Kevin Dixon, would want to blame the club’s financial woes on RQL. When they were espousing the virtues of a marriage between Eagle Farm and Doomben and denying it would be a takeover, the greatest argument they put forward was the massive savings such a move would create.

The honeymoon is hardly over and the new merged club has posted an unbelievable $3.1 million loss – hardly massive savings! So who do they blame, Bob Bentley and his RQ Board of course?

Why not, they are the scapegoats for everything else that’s wrong with racing in Queensland according to the critics and your web site is just as much responsible for portraying this false impression as Sinclair and the Courier Mail.

It’s a pity Mr Dixon didn’t reveal the full facts when he blamed the loss on an inadequate administration subsidy. Mr Sinclair, in his role as an objective racing journalist, also failed to reveal some important facts. It was left to Mr Bentley to clarify the correct situation in a Letter to the Editor of the Courier Mail, which should have been aired more widely than it was.

There are a couple of questions I would like answered by the BRC in relation to the loss they have posted that stakeholders of the racing industry are not prepared to ask but I will if you are prepared to run them:

What is the wages bill at the BRC and are the suggestions correct that some of the high profile administrators are paid far more than their equals at RQ? One wonders why Mr Ferguson needs such a highly paid off-sider.

We would also like to know if the speculation in the industry is correct that Mr Sinclair gets paid to promote the club or for work that he does on race days or at race functions on their behalf?

If he is, does this not constitute a major conflict of interest when he is writing columns blaming the club’s financial woes on RQ and something that should be raised with his bosses at News Limited or perhaps the Press Council?

It’s all food for thought but there are plenty who share my opinion that some media outlets should start being a shade more objective when it comes to RQ instead of just using the likes of Messrs Bentley, Hanmer, Tuttle and others as punching bags. I don’t expect this e-mail to get published but I’ll try anyway.’ – Brian Scott, Sunshine Coast.

EDITOR’S NOTE: As someone once said to another Brian – much more intelligent than you I am sure – ‘Always look on the Bright Side of Life.’ Jokes aside stick-brain, let me say that your vitriolic attempt at intimidation is not why we are running your e-mail. I do believe that you would qualify for a job writing media releases for RQ. Your conspiracy theories are not worth commenting on. It is not for me to judge the ethics of Bart Sinclair’s association with the QTC and now BRC. But I do know that major race clubs throughout the country employ selected members of the racing media to assist with promotional work. I have no idea what the BRC is paying anyone for this. If you really want to know, become a member of the club and then you can ask them instead of sending us confrontational e-mails. As for this web site flying a flag for the BRC, I have never met or spoken to club chairman Kevin Dixon.  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Sep-15, 10:14 PM

Bob must be on hols or is turning the other cheek no response to Barts PR on Sunday. :shutup:

Most unusual :o

Letsgo doesn't like criticsm fancy calling Brian "stick brain" :stop:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Sep-16, 06:36 AM

What would Peter Cameron say about all this?  Are you out there Pete?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Sep-16, 08:13 AM

cmon pete you dribblin bentley bucket.......still get that qr/rq/rorters inc inside mail :nowink:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Sep-25, 07:26 AM

BRC is starting to get good crowds again at the races, and things might get even busier once the Spring carnival goes big time in the south. 

No better place to watch a Spring classic than at the local races if you can't go south for the real thing.  Certainly was fun last Sat for this Forumite.  Pic is courtesy of the terrific website www.horseracingonly.com.au


     

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Sep-25, 08:50 AM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Sep-25, 07:26  AM

BRC is starting to get good crowds again at the races, and things might get even busier once the Spring carnival goes big time in the south. 

No better place to watch a Spring classic than at the local races if you can't go south for the real thing.  Certainly was fun last Sat for this Forumite.  Pic is courtesy of the terrific website www.horseracingonly.com.au
    

Can't help yourself can you?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Sep-25, 08:56 AM

Ooooooh.  Meowwwwww.

At least I have still got my own teeth

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Oct-06, 12:28 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Sep-10, 07:22  PM

The first Polo event to be held at Doomben takes place on 23 October.

http://www.doombenpolo.com.au/

If ya wanna see last year's event (in Sydney) take a peek at this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VahgBHOSEzk

Never been to a polo match so I am looking forward to this.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-06, 08:22 PM

You going to this, vadim?

I dunno why polo players are not more interested in racing.  :lol:

The good news is that there'll be full TAB and Sky facilities set up for polo attendees.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Oct-06, 08:49 PM

be sure to report in boys and GIRLS :whistle:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Oct-07, 06:11 AM

Ron Wanless used to be a great polo player.  Wonder if he is still involved.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-07, 09:06 AM

Yes he is.  But he likes polo more than he likes racing.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 10:08 AM

Vadim

I assume you will have ratings for the polo?  Can't imagine you going to Doomben and not having a bet.  :shutup:  Or is this more of a social for you?  -())=(

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Oct-07, 10:28 AM

Ron Wanless Was a great competitor in many sports.


Not sure on the year but I seen him fight George Sutton for some title back when boxing was really strong in Australia. Be around forty years back I reckon.

We all remember the fantastic Lucky Creed that his Dad had.

Another good story that I found on one of the best sites around  :lol:

http://www.brisbaneracing.com.au/article.php?current_article=2016

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-07, 12:48 PM

And Killarney's Ace in the opening event on the old AP.  :clap2:

I pretty sure RW suffered a terrible injury to an eye in a polo accident a year or so back.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Oct-07, 03:54 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-07, 12:48  PM

And Killarney's Ace in the opening event on the old AP.  :clap2:

I pretty sure RW suffered a terrible injury to an eye in a polo accident a year or so back.

Unfortunately for Ron you are correct DD.

I would imagine all of the Hamilton Jet set will be there Norton including you. A social event of this nature wouldn't be the same withot you and your hidden camera  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 04:06 PM

Vadim

You will have to go to Polo without me to hold your chukka for you.  I am at rehearsals that day for the canonisation of Mary McKillop (I am one of her miracles).

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Oct-07, 04:25 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 04:06  PM

Vadim

You will have to go to Polo without me to hold your chukka for you.  I am at rehearsals that day for the canonisation of Mary McKillop (I am one of her miracles).

:no: :no: :no:

  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2010-Oct-07, 04:33 PM

Norton while your there can you please ask why we keep drawing out in the carpark at each start....and the same carpark I might add. :whistle:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-07, 05:22 PM

mono, with rain in the offing it might be a godsend.

Lemme know about that other business pls.  I enquired yesterday and drew a blank. :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-07, 06:20 PM

Quote from: monologue on 2010-Oct-07, 04:33  PM

Norton while your there can you please ask why we keep drawing out in the carpark at each start....and the same carpark I might add. :whistle:

I'm sure connections of some of you main opponents would willingly swap. :yes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Oct-07, 06:37 PM

Quote from: monologue on 2010-Oct-07, 04:33  PM

Norton while your there can you please ask why we keep drawing out in the carpark at each start....and the same carpark I might add. :whistle:

I understand that a certain person pressed the submit button.  :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 07:03 PM

Mono

Have already asked about that.  Punishment for past sins was the answer I received.  Even got a look at your rating in life (so far) for getting  into Gp 1 Heaven equiv of the Cox Plate.  You have hit a flat spot ever since you began hanging with Kiwis.  Seems you have a bit of work to do. 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2010-Oct-07, 07:16 PM

Norton I'm a true Christian  :what: I'll hang with anyone...Kiwis included if they're loyal.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2010-Oct-07, 07:47 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 04:06  PM

Vadim

You will have to go to Polo without me to hold your chukka for you.  I am at rehearsals that day for the canonisation of Mary McKillop (I am one of her miracles).

I don't know---it must be the lasped Catholic in me--a few recent "miracles" have happened to me in the last few years:-

-joined this forum---keeps me occupied and out of trouble
-gave up subscribing to just joking
-started backing most horses for the drum only--ya pick more winners that way   :biggrin:
-picking up on good discussion/info/opinions from some knowledgeable people on this forum
-love bagging Ted---but deep down I reckon he is ok---its either him or me on the wrong politic side---who knows
-latched onto a forumite who thinks I'm a good bloke    :lol:  and freely shares his weekend thoughts on punting
-went to my first Brekkie Creek do and Straddy and after--think--why I'm not living there  :love:--It may happen   :what:
- I won a debate with DD---Nah--still working on that one    :lol:  

Can ya ask Saint Mary to help me on the latter    :biggrin:  I need another topic than Zipping   ;) Might try him on finance and the like   :dry:

 :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-07, 07:55 PM

chuggers

The money ya saved on ya just joking subscription has been re-directed to another dodgy source.

And you wanna debate me on FINANCE?  Now come on.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Oct-07, 08:00 PM

Quote from: chuggers on 2010-Oct-07, 07:47  PM

I don't know---it must be the lasped Catholic in me--a few recent "miracles" have happened to me in the last few years:-


-love bagging Ted---but deep down I reckon he is ok---its either him or me on the wrong politic side---who knows :beer:

 :o

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 08:11 PM

Chuggers

DD is known in closed circles as Mr Never Makes A Mistake.  Resistance is pointless, although he was wrong once back on October 19 in 1976 when he suggested, as navigator in a car, that I should turn left when the better course was to go right.   He was actually above Mary McKillop on the official list for Sainthood but she pre-deceased him.  All the better for DD and rest of us. 

BTW, can you name me a Kiwi saint?  I reckon they are about as rare as gold medals at Dehli.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-07, 08:12 PM

  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Oct-07, 08:15 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 08:11  PM

Chuggers

DD is known in closed circles as Mr Never Makes A Mistake.  Resistance is pointless, although he was wrong once back on October 19 in 1976 when he suggested, as navigator in a car, that I should turn left when the better course was to go right.   He was actually above Mary McKillop on the official list for Sainthood but she pre-deceased him.  All the better for DD and rest of us. 

BTW, can you name me a Kiwi saint?  I reckon they are about as rare as gold medals at Dehli.

Everyone of the curent All Black team :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2010-Oct-07, 08:23 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 08:11  PM

Chuggers

DD is known in closed circles as Mr Never Makes A Mistake.  Resistance is pointless, although he was wrong once back on October 19 in 1976 when he suggested, as navigator in a car, that I should turn left when the better course was to go right.   He was actually above Mary McKillop on the official list for Sainthood but she pre-deceased him.  All the better for DD and rest of us. 

BTW, can you name me a Kiwi saint?  I reckon they are about as rare as gold medals at Dehli.

Love it--I get your drift    :biggrin:

I've had similar situations in my young life.

Is DD a Kiwi ??  That would be good to know if it is the case---then I know what angle to debate on.

 :beer:


 :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2010-Oct-07, 08:26 PM

Quote from: chuggers on 2010-Oct-07, 08:23  PM

Love it--I get your drift     :biggrin:  

I've had similar situations in my young life.

Is DD a Kiwi ??  That would be good to know if it is the case---then I know what angle to debate on.

 :beer:


 :beer:

The only thing Kiwi about dd is the woolen jumper he wears on a cold day. :)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 08:34 PM

Chuggers

The bloody place would have sunk into the Pacific by now if DD was a Kiwi.  No, Vadim is the Kiwi amongst us.

DD likes his sheep but (hopefully) it is limited to the crumbed lamb chops they used to serve at the now defunct QTC lunches when Vadim and Mono needed a clean suit and tie after each venture to the swill.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-07, 08:37 PM

Lay off, Norton.

I'm trying to do the form for Warwick.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2010-Oct-07, 08:39 PM

Have you still got a picture of that tie Norton? Or has it been framed and put into storage with all the other QTC memorabilia.    :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2010-Oct-07, 08:42 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Oct-07, 08:34  PM

Chuggers

The bloody place would have sunk into the Pacific by now if DD was a Kiwi.  No, Vadim is the Kiwi amongst us.

DD likes his sheep but (hopefully) it is limited to the crumbed lamb chops they used to serve at the now defunct QTC lunches when Vadim and Mono needed a clean suit and tie after each venture to the swill.

You all make me laugh---shite I wish I was living there---I'd be having a ball---you will need to put up with a few visits per year from me until I can work out a permanent situation--I would like to convert the misses--a lost cause at this stage---but I'll bring her up mid November and see the thoughts.

 :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Oct-07, 08:54 PM

makes you wonder if the parasitic pariah is gunna bestowe any of his ill-gotten albion park wealth on the strategic plan for the 2 power clubs{turnover wise} in the formerally great state known as queensland....with a laurel and hardy list of ex-racing ministers in mssrs rose,schwarten,fraser and now two pot scremer in lawless the man who hides out punting and dribbling in surf clubs because hes not game to attend a gctc race meeting.......how many million for ya dd and norts from robert mug-agbe :what:
hi porky,hi handlebars tony :love:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Oct-07, 09:38 PM

Quote from: chuggers on 2010-Oct-07, 08:23  PM

Is DD a Kiwi ??  That would be good to know if it is the case---then I know what angle to debate on.

Just caught up with this  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Oct-08, 08:19 AM

how much will albion sell for boys and GIRLS?????

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2010-Oct-08, 02:11 PM

Nice retro fahion winners at EF pity about the weather for the girls tomorrow in the Myer Fashions,raincoats,brollys and gum boots aren't fashionable.

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-17, 12:02 PM

Those interested in what's on the drawing board for the EF-Doomben racing precinct might like to take a peek at this:

http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/planning-building/local-plans/north/racecourse-precinct/index.htm

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Oct-17, 01:21 PM

As a stay at home punter,I couldn't give a rat's as to where the racetracks are.  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Oct-17, 01:24 PM

Seriously, it is the traffic that keeps most people from going to the tracks.

It is only going to get worse , especially mid week.

Maybe I'm wrong in wanting to get along Nudgee Rd and then Kingfordsmith Drive, but that is a nightmare on a Wed arvo.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-17, 07:33 PM

gratlog

Tell the truth, you wouldn't be at EF on a Wed if a nude Elle McPherson turned up to collect you in a convertible.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Oct-17, 07:46 PM

  :lol:

I never missed a meeting mid week when I lived that side of town.Even used to go awol when I was in the Army to make a meeting  :biggrin:

These days I like someone with me when I drive too far and my wife hates the Gateway
more than I do.  Therefore my days of going to the track over that side are gone.

Ipswich and the Gold Coast only these days

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-21, 06:38 PM

The Paspaley Polo is scheduled to go ahead at Doomben on Saturday.

The company's charity is the Sony Foundation.  Patrons are encouraged to bring along their old mobile phones to donate to the charity.  I'm seriously considering handing in my current one.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Oct-22, 09:49 AM

Ya need an iPhone DD.  I will teach you how to use one, once I conquer how to use Betfair.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Oct-22, 09:54 AM

Will I still back fourths? :rant:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Nov-23, 09:05 AM

Today's C-M reports that Brisbane Racing Club is likely to score Council approval for a "Sunday Markets" venture.  There are plans to have about 200 fresh produce and gourmet food stalls each Sunday morning.  The markets will be inside the course and a food court will operate under the old Leger stand.

Let's hope there'll be no young people milling around and enjoying themselves. :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Nov-23, 10:21 AM

Good idea.  emthup

Last time I was down at EF I wandered thru the old ledger area for old times sake.

Good to see it is going to be used again and hope that allows for it to remain for some years to come.

Wonder what they do with all those leaves from the fantastic old trees. The leaves were knee deep and maybe they would be OK for mulch.

Markets are great but hope this one can get the people in and hasn't missed the boat.

We have one on a Sunday that is just a very short wander from my place and it is packed each week with very cheap produce.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Nov-23, 11:19 AM

Beautiful area, eh?  There are some ghosts in that stand, gratlog, so best you don't go there at night.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Nov-23, 12:09 PM

That area will be great for market days.

Will probably come over for a look see myself once they start

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Nov-23, 12:50 PM

The Young Members Committee have a big day planned for EF on Saturday, Dec 4.

Anyone interested should go to www.brc.com.au/youngmembers

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-06, 09:19 AM

BRC Members and residents of suburbs neighbouring Eagle Farm and Doomben will this week receive a flyer setting out the current status of the re-development plans for the racecourse precinct.

Will attach a copy to this thread when I get my hands on it.  But for now, here's one of the statements:

Where to from here?

An application for Preliminary Approval is in the final stages of being prepared and will be lodged with Brisbane City Council in the near future. A Preliminary Approval application includes a master plan for the proposed development, including design concepts, precincts and proposed land uses. It considers economic, traffic, infrastructure, community, planning and design requirements. Subject to Council’s review and consideration, detailed Development Applications will be prepared. As part of this process, BRC will continue to consult with the community.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Dec-06, 11:08 AM

And the goss is Council is very pleased with the outcomes. :no1:

Now we just have to get Bob interested. :unsu

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-06, 11:50 AM

You're dead-right in that Norton. 

BCC SHOULD be thrilled that $1 billion will be spent in the racing precinct.  Not sure why anyone would not be? :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Dec-06, 01:12 PM

How many millions are there in a billion?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-06, 02:03 PM

Try 10 to the power of 3. :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: usernametaken on 2010-Dec-06, 03:07 PM

Depends on if you are Australian or American strangely enough.
In America it is a thousand million.
In Australia, and England I think, it is a million million.
Oh to be a billionaire.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-06, 04:09 PM

If it's a MILLION millions, BRC will need a loan. :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-06, 06:38 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-06, 04:09  PM

If it's a MILLION millions, BRC will need a loan. :sad:

Will do anyway :)

Ah no :what: Of course it is self-funding :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-06, 07:19 PM

Ah, they've got to you on this one, too, eh, vadim? :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-06, 09:39 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-06, 07:19  PM

Ah, they've got to you on this one, too, eh, vadim? :sad:

The demons have got to me :clap2: :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-07, 08:12 AM

Effective treatment is available.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-16, 05:38 PM

Letter to Members from BRC Chairman

14th December, 2010

Dear Fellow Members,

Attached you will find the latest BRC newsletter.  This newsletter has also been distributed to residents living in the suburbs adjacent to the racecourses via a letterbox distribution. 

In preparing this newsletter, the enormity of the project yet again becomes apparent. Therefore, we felt it important to provide some supplementary information to members. The level of detailed work need in a project such as this is phenomenal. An insight into this work is provided to below.

Engagement of Consultants

The master plan is, by its nature, an extremely complex project. Projects on this scale must address all of the neighbourhood impacts that it will generate, from traffic to water and sewer capabilities. In order to address these detailed and specialised subjects, the project engaged many consultants. The consultants input is now finalised and is a primary portion of the applications we will lodge with the Council within the next few weeks. The consultants we engaged included:

·         Heritage Architects
·         Community consultation
·         Architect
·         Traffic engineering
·         Town planning
·         Civil engineering
·         Geotechnical
·         Acoustic engineering
·         Electrical
·         Economic demand
·         Sustainability
·         Landscape architect
·         Surveyor & titling
·         Quantity surveyor
·         Town planning lawyer
·         Hydraulic engineering
·         Valuations

The Approval Process

BRC and Watpac are in the review, consultation and approval stage with Brisbane City Council.   Given the size and scope of the project, the planning process is long and complex.  The process still has many stages to go.  There are, at present, two processes running in parallel – the Preliminary Approval and the Neighbourhood Planning Process.  On current expectations, we believe that we are still on target regarding the completion of the processes. The major steps in each process are listed below.

1. Preliminary Approval Process

-       Lodgement of Preliminary Approval application
-       Information Request and Response Stage
-       Public Notification of the Preliminary Approval
-       Referral Agency Responses
-       Council Decision

2. Neighbourhood Planning Process

-       Community Planning Team and neighbourhood consultation
-       Release of Draft Strategy for public comment
-       Council reviews submissions and prepares draft Neighbourhood Plan
-       Soft release of draft Neighbourhood Plan
-       Issue draft Neighbourhood Plan to State for first State interest check
-       Formally advertise draft Neighbourhood Plan and invite public comment
-       Council reviews and considers submissions on draft Neighbourhood Plan
-       Submit draft Neighbourhood Plan (with or without changes) to Council for endorsement
-       Council issues draft Neighbourhood Plan to State government for second State interest check
-       Final adoption and gazettal of Neighbourhood Plan


Racing Queensland Limited

You may have noticed recent criticism by the Chairman of Racing Queensland Ltd (RQL), Mr. Bob Bentley.  Mr. Bentley made assertions that “RQL has made a number of requests for information to carry out due diligence, but there has been insufficient detail provided to even consider an approval”.  Mr. Bentley’s statement is not in accordance with the facts.  The facts a

·         BRC has provided every piece of information requested by RQL and has briefed RQL face to face on numerous occasions
·         RQL has had an open invitation to attend all meetings, yet has chosen not to attend
·         RQL has been invited to examine all papers in regard to the master plan including minutes, financials, agreements, etc

We do not know which pieces of existing information Mr. Bentley says he has not received. 

Conclusion

The Board appreciates member’s patience during this master planning process.  Members would naturally understand from the above that it is not a quick process, especially given the size and scope of the project.  A great deal of effort is going into ensuring Council has all the information it needs to commence the application process.   

We are working towards lodgement of the Preliminary Approval before the end of this year or in the first couple of weeks of January. To this time, the Brisbane City Council have been as excited as we are regarding the prospect of revitalising the racing precinct. They have provided good guidance throughout the project, and we look forward to continuing a open relationship with them. We will continue to keep members and the community updated as we move forward.

KEVIN DIXON

CHAIRMAN  

BRC Newletter on the Master Plan is attached for those interested.

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-16, 08:59 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-16, 05:38  PM

Letter to Members from BRC Chairman

14th December, 2010

Could have sworn this was the same letter we received three years ago  :lol:


We do not know which pieces of existing information Mr. Bentley says he has not received. 

It is my guess we will be told



The Board appreciates member’s patience during this master planning process. 

 :sleep:   

We are working towards lodgement of the Preliminary Approval before the end of this year or in the first couple of weeks of January.  or

BRC Newletter on the Master Plan is attached for those interested.

Strange distribution this one. I know of some members getting the newsletter and others the emailed letter :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-16, 09:53 PM

And vadim, I would have bet yesterday's winnings that you'd come out swingin' on this.   :lol:  

I've been around Brisbane races for a while and have never seen a letter that even closely resembles what's just been mailed out.  You seem to have - but just like Bob's $100 million valuation of AP, ya having a lend of us.

As for the distribution process, I'd guess that members who have provided email addresses get theirs by email. :whistle:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-17, 08:29 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-16, 09:53  PM

And vadim, I would have bet yesterday's winnings that you'd come out swingin' on this.    :lol:   

I've been around Brisbane races for a while and have never seen a letter that even closely resembles what's just been mailed out.  You seem to have - but just like Bob's $100 million valuation of AP, ya having a lend of us.

As for the distribution process, I'd guess that members who have provided email addresses get theirs by email. :whistle:

DD I am just a very frustrated and keen Metro race goer - nothing else.

You know the history as well as anyone - we have not progressed in anyway over the last two years and certainly not from the time we struggled to get the amalagmation up.

We do have a new facility at Doomben which has been appreciated by all. Some adjustment to the broadcast would be a further enhancement.

No on is complaining about the small things it is the larger plan.

No stables on course for our trainers - promised over five years ago. This would save most of them an inordinate amount of time early morning getting horses on & off the track.

Conitinuing letters and propganda re the progress of the development application depsite having a special committee set up to fast track the process by the Lord  Mayor.

Can we afford this self funding project? I don't know but it is fair to say we haven't progressed too far in three years depsite the content of the recent letter.

The RQ infrastructure plan shed plans for the rest of the state but not one $ for the Metro area depsite the obvious need and the input the area has into TAB turnover.

Personally I think the whole debacle is just a poilitical stand-off between the two boards. It is about time they started to be civil and talk to each other. But then there is always the next election :mad:

I will personally arrange a meeting between the Boards to see if there is not some common ground. Now see if that is picked up :rolleyes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Dec-17, 08:56 AM

Better be quick.  My feel is that the industry has had enough after ten long years of three fifths of five eighths.  Hopefully a new Control Body under a LNP Govt will have more success.  If Labor wins again, then it will be all over red rover.   No need to meet.  BRC Board positions will probably available on eBay after next Labor version of the Racing Act.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-17, 09:51 AM

Quote from: vadim on 2010-Dec-17, 08:29  AM

DD I am just a very frustrated and keen Metro race goer - nothing else.

You know the history as well as anyone - we have not progressed in anyway over the last two years and certainly not from the time we struggled to get the amalagmation up.

We do have a new facility at Doomben which has been appreciated by all. Some adjustment to the broadcast would be a further enhancement.

No on is complaining about the small things it is the larger plan.

No stables on course for our trainers - promised over five years ago. This would save most of them an inordinate amount of time early morning getting horses on & off the track.

Conitinuing letters and propganda re the progress of the development application depsite having a special committee set up to fast track the process by the Lord  Mayor.

Can we afford this self funding project? I don't know but it is fair to say we haven't progressed too far in three years depsite the content of the recent letter.

The RQ infrastructure plan shed plans for the rest of the state but not one $ for the Metro area depsite the obvious need and the input the area has into TAB turnover.

Personally I think the whole debacle is just a poilitical stand-off between the two boards. It is about time they started to be civil and talk to each other. But then there is always the next election :mad:

I will personally arrange a meeting between the Boards to see if there is not some common ground. Now see if that is picked up :rolleyes:

vadim, just a couple of points...

Your view regarding the performance of BRC is not consistent with that expressed by dozens of people I come across.  The new Club had limited seed funds to begin with - maybe due to poor performance by the Treasurers of the BTC and QTC? :whistle:

Kevin Dixon's letter indicates that "we" have progressed a long way.  A Master Plan for more than $1 billion (that's 1,000 $million) would take a while to put together?  I don't regard the information bulletins put out by BRC as "propaganda". :no:

Re your concern about "on-course stables promised over 5 years ago".  QTC had a plan - rejected by the QRL.  There are currently 260 horses living on EF.  Pre-EI there were none.  Last look around the stables are fully occupied.  There are in-field stables at EF on the master plan.

I think it's unfair to say "we haven't progressed to far.....".

Personally, I think "we" can afford this self-funding project.  Probably a lot moreso than the Qld industry can afford Bob's $205 mill project.   I daresay BRC has a business plan.  Have you seen Bob's?

Re your feeling that it's time for the boards to be "civil"...I'm unaware of instances of BRC board not being civil, but you might know more than I on that.

Yes, there's always next election.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ted e turner on 2010-Dec-17, 11:32 PM

so so funny..the brc will hold one of the majority votes in the future of racing in this state when bentley and fools assoc. are sacked and rightly so....most premier meetings/most turnover/most industry returns
bentleys major loss and his downfall.............doubters inc mamme/grant morgan and vadim welcome to try and respond 8)
hi porky snout in the trough piglet :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-22, 09:23 PM

From BRC:

During the traditionally quiet trading period of late December and January we are reducing the number of venues we have open however we are dedicated to ensuring exclusive areas for Members and their guests. Please note the availabilities of venues below.

December 26th, 2010
Doomben Venues 

Members & Guests: Falvelon Bar, Bernborough Bar, Celebration Deck and 10,000 Dining Roomand Members' Stand
 
Public Venues: Whips and Spurs, Champions Bar, Gunsynd, Champions Take-Away and Rails Bar
 
January 1st, 2011
Eagle Farm Venues 

Members & Guests: Derby Bar, Gallery Bar and Members' Stand                                         
 
Public Venues: Public Lawn, Hall of Fame Bar, Ascot Bar and Champagne Bar    

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-23, 08:38 AM

Can anyone confirm how the meeting of the powers went yesterday?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-23, 09:08 AM

Had showers from about noon.  Meeting was never in doubt though, and in the end everyone was very happy to get through the day.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-23, 10:22 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-23, 09:08  AM

Had showers from about noon.  Meeting was never in doubt though, and in the end everyone was very happy to get through the day.

  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Dec-23, 12:52 PM

DD wouldn't even tell us if he knew what the winning Lotto numbers are for this weekend.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-27, 11:24 PM

Thought I would get these queries into the right thread so we can all get the answers sort;

The speculation and half trusths in this thread are all very fascinating, but it is time for a few facts. Given that there seem to be some well connected people from the BRC in here, perhaps we can get some answers as well:

1. Is the Kevin Seymour fighting to stop the redevlopment of Albion Park the same Kevin Seymour that owns WATPAC - Yes.
2. Is WATPAC responsible for the BRC redevelopment - Yes.
3. How much of land currently owned by members will be given to WATPAC to make the development Self Funding ? Can someone with authority please tell us - the newsletters to date don't really tell us
4. Where is the business plan for the BRC masterplan ? There have been numerous posts re RQ's requirement to provide a business plan  for thier infrastructure plan- where is the BRC's plan for the members' to digest?
5. Why would the BRC enter inot a JV with WATPAC but not with RQL ? This is something a few of us want to know
6. Speaking of Pie in the Sky - what the chances of the BRC getting the go ahead for 15 storey buildings in the heart of Ascot - Zip.  Does this assumption mean that the BRC plan really calls for 15 stories? If this is the case surely this can be published. Is this why progress has stalled?
7. Does the local area plan only provide for 12 stories yet the masterplan provides for 15 ? - Yes. Once again it is imperative that all members are given this information
8. Will the LNP local member be ducking for cover when a local action group fires up over turning Nudgee Rd and Lancaster Rd into a Commercial precinct ? I have personally witnessed his passion to ensure that this will not occur
9. Did the local member bang on endlessly about local amenity when it looked like the govt wanted to sell Doomben ? - yes. Understood & correct
10. Are his statements on the public record  ? - yes. Understood & correct
11. Will the BRC masterplan turn the whole area into gridlock - yes.  Well who knows - the members haven't been given that detail
12. Will a change of govt fix any of this  ? - No. Not likely if the traffic & storey level is correct  

So it appears from all of this that the only outstanding matters are the existence of a viable business plan that will suit all parties and provide a guarantee to members that the project is self-funding at the existing story levels regulated by Council/Airport.

So the debate should centre around that and not attempting to undermine Outsider's genuine attempt to get some answers.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-27, 11:27 PM

As an aside to all of the previous post I wonder what the BRC's official position is on RQ's current infrstructure plan is?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-28, 07:30 AM

Quote from: vadim on 2010-Dec-27, 11:27  PM

As an aside to all of the previous post I wonder what the BRC's official position is on RQ's current infrstructure plan is?

vadim, rather than sitting up late at night pondering on such matters, why not drop a line to the CEO of BRC?

Not that my opinion counts for anything, but I would think the BRC should be fully supportive of any government contribution to racing infrastructure.  It's been a long time coming.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-29, 07:56 PM

BRC Junior membership numbers increased during the week.

If breeding counts for anything, he'll be a good punter.  :rolleyes:

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2010-Dec-29, 10:26 PM

I wonder why the BRC doesn't provide audible announcements in the betting rings?

Many times I have had to strain my ears to try and hear what the non punters in the outer areas are being told.
The most recent example was the abandonment of the last at Doomben on Sunday?

It was barely audible in the betting ring. Only the distant sounds from the other sections rang through.
This seems to be the case at both EF and Doomben.

Any reason why the punters in the betting rings are not told of track upgrades/downgrades/late scratchings etc???

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-30, 07:03 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-29, 07:56  PM

BRC Junior membership numbers increased during the week.

If breeding counts for anything, he'll be a good punter.  :rolleyes:

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Do we get an clues on the stallion and/or dam?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-30, 08:48 AM

Quote from: DJH on 2010-Dec-29, 10:26  PM

I wonder why the BRC doesn't provide audible announcements in the betting rings?

Many times I have had to strain my ears to try and hear what the non punters in the outer areas are being told.
The most recent example was the abandonment of the last at Doomben on Sunday?

It was barely audible in the betting ring. Only the distant sounds from the other sections rang through.
This seems to be the case at both EF and Doomben.

Any reason why the punters in the betting rings are not told of track upgrades/downgrades/late scratchings etc???

DJH

I'd think it's wasteful of time and energy to "wonder" about such things.  From my experience, the club does quite well in delivering the thousands of bits of information that emerge in a day at the races.  It's accepted that critics would respond "But you would say that."

On the specific matter to which you refer, I was standing right near the betting ring on Sunday when David Fowler made the announcement.  I can't vouch for the fact that the siren was sounded prior to the announcement, but it certainly was earlier in the afternoon.  I noted the almost immediate response in the betting ring after the announcement.  My judgement would be that the message was received.  However, given that the announcement was made in teeming rain, I can accept that accoustics were not A+.

On your last "question"... it's not a question to me, since I know from experience that punters in betting rings at EF and Doomben are provided with such information.  For reasons we understand, the information is intermingled with a cacophony of race calls, etc.  Not everyone hears everything every time.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-30, 08:51 AM

Quote from: vadim on 2010-Dec-30, 07:03  AM

Do we get an clues on the stallion and/or dam?

On the spear side, although domiciled interstate, the grand-dam has made her presence felt on Brisbane racecourses over the years.

The foal is not eligible for QTIS, more like BOBS.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Dec-30, 10:48 AM

Gawd, don't tell me a well known Forumite who has been pictured once of twice here is now a grandmother. 

Well, congrats dear lady.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Dec-30, 10:53 AM

DD

I note that Dr Phil has accused race club committees such as yours of "rapeing" racecourse patrons, committing atrocities and violations I dare not enquire about here :o .  

Um. Is that akin to bringing racing into disrepute?  :whistle:  Or is it true?   >:(

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Dec-30, 10:59 AM

She doesn't lokk anywhere near old enough to be a Grandma, but congratulations to all. ())=(

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-30, 11:28 AM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Dec-30, 10:53  AM

DD

I note that Dr Phil has accused race club committees such as yours of "raping" racecourse patrons, committing atrocities and violations I dare not enquire about here :o .  

Um. Is that akin to bringing racing into disrepute?  :whistle:  Or is it true?   >:(

Norton, that sort of hogwash appeals to the audience he's going after.

As to whether it's true, or not...don't you read his spiel?  Everything on the site is 100 per cent accurate.

He must regret the competition from sites such as horseracingonly and letsgo.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2010-Dec-30, 11:38 AM

Re the horseracingonly site.   Has Heathcote given up on his blogs?   used to enjoy reading them.

Is the bloke that runs the site OK?   I think Vadim said he had some sort of a problem.

BTW, Unlike others I am not going to read Phils site this week.  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-30, 11:43 AM

I don't think there's any link between RH's blogs finishing and the site in 'recess'. 

It was vadim from memory who suggested Graham Potter had to return to S Africa due to a family matter.

Graham hasn't been at the track of late.  When he is, is very visible.  Works his backside off.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2010-Dec-30, 01:44 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2010-Dec-30, 10:48  AM

Gawd, don't tell me a well known Forumite who has been pictured once of twice here is now a grandmother. 

Well, congrats dear lady.

I am still none the wiser. It couldn't be Racehorses :no:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2010-Dec-30, 02:04 PM

On what grounds do you arrive at that conclusion, vadim?  :chin:

She's certainly old enough to be a grand-mother. :rolleyes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: richo on 2010-Dec-30, 02:31 PM

well she is 85   ohhh gawd i'm in so much trouble  -())=(

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2010-Dec-30, 08:37 PM

Richo, you are dead meat after that.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Racehorses on 2011-Jan-01, 10:15 AM

Richo!  :bleh: I'll always be younger than you lol

I might blur it a little between stated age and chronological age as most women are entitled too  :yes: buuuuuuuuuuut I'm not quite 85 years old yet! lol

To all the polite posters  :) it's great to be a nan, I have no doubt Max will be into horses as both sides of the family are  :)

Max turns his head and smiles at the telly whenever Eagle farm is on   :love:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Jan-01, 10:30 AM

Quote from: Racehorses on 2011-Jan-01, 10:15  AM

Richo!  :bleh: I'll always be younger than you lol

I might blur it a little between stated age and chronological age as most women are entitled too  :yes: buuuuuuuuuuut I'm not quite 85 years old yet! lol

To all the polite posters  :) it's great to be a nan, I have no doubt Max will be into horses as both sides of the family are  :)

Max turns his head and smiles at the telly whenever Eagle farm is on   :love:

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Not like this I hope  :no:  racehorses   :lol:

Congratulations on becoming a Nan....Max will keep you young.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-02, 12:08 PM

Well, RH, no need to read him fairy stories.  Just print him out the weekly drivel from just joking.

A fitting christening present would be a lifetime sub to Best Bets.  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Jan-04, 07:31 PM

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-04, 07:38 PM

Thanks for recording your opinion, DJH.

Did you ever get around to joining BRC so you could have some input into the Club's operations?  You seem to have all the answers.

Feel free to pull me aside some day at the races and introduce yourself.  That's if you can ever get me out of the shelter where I seem to spend all my time - by your account.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Jan-04, 07:54 PM

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-04, 08:23 PM

Yes, it did come across as a personal attack.  But I can live with that.

I'll be at the track tomorrow, monitoring operations as I am wont to do. :unsu

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Jan-05, 05:48 AM

I thought a real personal attack was a face to face job.

   If that comes to fisticuffs , so be it .  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-05, 07:17 AM

Just another example of your thoughts being off the mark, gratlog. :rolleyes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-05, 07:53 PM

Big roll-up of youngsters at the Garden Racecourse today.  Sure beats going to the movies.  :lol:

Track was in tip-top order.  emthup

Got the last in just before a heavy storm. :sweat:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-07, 12:52 PM

A phantom meeting will be conducted at Eagle Farm tomorrow.

Admission to the racecourse is free.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-11, 10:46 AM

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: The Outsider on 2011-Jan-11, 11:37 AM

Greetings Forumites, Apoligies for my extended absence. I am a busy man and all this rain has been keeping me on my toes.

Firstly, let me start by apoligising for not posting my CV when I registered. Can one of the mods please update the terms and conditions to include the following:

"If you post anything that is remotely pro QRL you will be assumed to be a QRL plant unless you post your CV and 3 pieces of identification that have been certified by a Notary Public. However feel free to post as many anti QRL postings, rumuour, personal attacks and innuendo as you see fit".

Secondly, I am still awaiting an answer to my most important question - How much of land currenly owned by members will be GIVEN to WATPAC in return for their assistance with the Masterplan ? I'm guessing it is a fair bit, but the glossy brochure issued by the BRC spin doctors is a bit light on detail.

Thirdly, can this thread be changed to the Brisbane Racing Club shoot the messenger thread. Poor old DJH asks an innocent question about being able to hear betting announcements and gets gunned down in a flash. No wonder the BRC are on the fast track to going broke.

Today's question of the day is - In 25 words or less - If the BRC goes broke, will that open the door to sell Doomben ?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-11, 11:47 AM

Good to have you back, Outsider.

The questions posed are all for the BRC CEO.  Just drop him an email, you'll get an answer in due course.

On the name of this thread, you're free to open a new one:  "I'm here to BASH the BRC".

Go for it.  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-11, 11:56 AM

Raised two issues recently with the BRC about P/A being inaudible in the stand

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 no finish pics or films on the web.


Thank-you for your feedback regarding your recent issues I presume from attending Eagle Farm as we received a number of complaints regarding sound in the public grandstand last Saturday.

It is from your complaint and others like it that we received on Saturday that we are able to work on solving the issue. We are currently working on adding additional speakers to the Public grandstand with a view to resolving this issue. We hope to have these works completed within the next 2 weeks.

With regard to your comment regarding photo finishes being displayed on our website we are currently working on a solution that will see this feature added to our website. We expect this to be launched in the first quarter of 2011.

Thank-you for supplying us with your feedback on these issues as it is from feedback like this we can improve the experience of our customers.

Kind Regards

Darren Condon | Chief Operating Officer | Brisbane Racing Club Eagle Farm Racecourse | PO Box  817 Hamilton Central QLD 4007 Phone 07 3268 2171 | Mob 0406 316 271 Email dcondon@brc.com.au | Web www.brc.com.au

 :thumbsup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-Jan-14, 03:07 PM

Noticed this earlier in the week and meant to ask those in the know here as to whether these types of sponsorships are actually lucrative or just a case of making money on whatever you can

http://www.news.com.au/new-direction-for-trackside-glamour-as-david-jones-joins-forces-with-brisbane-racing-club/story-e6freon6-1225984633944?from=public_rss

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Jan-14, 03:33 PM

Garduen, I can't speak for the BRC coffers, but my mates at the VRC, AJC and STC who have contracts with DJ or Myer tell me the effort is well worth it. 

Arsenal, if you can get those racing product photos up on the BRC website I will kiss Darren Condon hard on the lips in front of the winning post at Doomben the day it happens.  I have been campainging for that for two years.   Bit of BRC TV exerpts such as post race interviews or a wrap for the day would be nice too.  Trouble could be that bloody Wayne Wilson bloke would probably want to be paid too much to supplement his pension income.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-14, 07:37 PM

Doomben Racecourse has been on standby as an evacuation centre.  Thankfully the lower flood height took away the need for that.

It will be an assembly point for flood relief volunteers from 7am tomorrow.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Feb-25, 04:16 PM

BRC Chairman Kevin Dixon has put his Racetree stud on the market.

No doubt Dixon will be hoping for Metronomy to do something in tomorrow's Diamond.  It's by Hotel Grand, one of several stallions owned by Dixon.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Feb-25, 05:54 PM

Was down at Doomben to watch a couple races and have to congratulate the committee as it is looking good there.

Especially for Joe Public.  Just hope the Nats get in next year and maybe EF can be fixed up to this standard.  I know EF has good amenities for members but the public area still needs a heap of work.

BTW, what happened to the Sunday markets? Are they still going to happen?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-25, 08:14 PM

Gratlog.........want me to get ya some pies tomorra............ :thumbsup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Feb-25, 08:22 PM

The Sunday Markets will happen.

Last I heard a traffic island was required at the junction of McGill Avenue and Lancaster Road.  This is just one of the numerous obstacles that a race club has to overcome these daze.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Feb-26, 12:40 PM

  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Feb-26, 07:17 PM

Very good promo today by the BRC with their $1 day   emthup

A good crowd turned up to take advantage.

I was a bit dissapointed that it cost me $4 for a bottle of water when I could have bought a coke for $1  :what:
Other than that was a good raceday, which got people coming to the racetrack
I would expect it cost the BRC a fair bit though?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: shaun on 2011-Feb-26, 07:22 PM

you mean it would have cost them a little less profit than usual.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: triple7 on 2011-Feb-26, 07:24 PM

Shaun do you realise what you have just started, and it's a Sat night.   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: shaun on 2011-Feb-26, 07:25 PM

sorry. :shutup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-27, 10:04 AM

Quote from: DJH on 2011-Feb-26, 07:17  PM

Very good promo today by the BRC with their $1 day    emthup  

A good crowd turned up to take advantage.

I was a bit dissapointed that it cost me $4 for a bottle of water when I could have bought a coke for $1  :what:
Other than that was a good raceday, which got people coming to the racetrack
I would expect it cost the BRC a fair bit though?

I agree DJ very good seeing young families there....kids having fun...riding shetlands.......still plenty of room for more patrons compared to  the good old days. :thumbsup:

Worth repeating now and then....especially in Summer........yesterday Dreamworld took a few thousand potential customers with the Voulunteer's Free day Out :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-27, 10:06 AM

Quote from: gratlog on 2011-Feb-26, 12:40  PM

  emthup  

Sorry gratlog...I couldn't help myself........ate em all myself. BURP

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Feb-27, 10:13 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Feb-25, 08:22  PM

The Sunday Markets will happen.

Last I heard a traffic island was required at the junction of McGill Avenue and Lancaster Road.  This is just one of the numerous obstacles that a race club has to overcome these daze.

Hope these markets do happen.  We have some every Sunday only about a 10 minutes walk away and while they took a little while to establish they are now thriving with a lot of good fruit and vegies.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-13, 10:01 AM

The perennial rock-throwers and white-ants would have choked on their cornflakes seeing this in yesterday's C-M:

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Mar-13, 10:46 AM

Go Amanda.  Was never in doubt.  Gee, that development should now be the showcase for the Qld racing industry.  RQL has given the green light DD?  Should be a rubber stamp job at this stage, otherwise they would have objected to Council wouldn't they? 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-13, 10:48 AM

No green light required, Norton.

The Club owns lands and is making an application to BCC for a master plan approval.

Probably the last of racing's assets that aren't mortgaged.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Mar-13, 10:54 AM

Get out of it.  Wouldn't ya like to build the best facilities in Australia with an "Onya Fellas" approval and press release stating he was travelling just as well from the big guy?   

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-13, 11:34 AM

The way things are shaping, I can see some Hall of Fame noms here. :yes:

Amanda, Campbell, to start with.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Mar-13, 11:48 AM

What is the time frame for this to be finished?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-13, 11:51 AM

Whatever it takes, but a.s.a.p.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-Mar-13, 01:51 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-13, 10:48  AM

Probably the last of racing's assets that aren't mortgaged.

No - just took the effective sale of approx 19Ha of land to achieve it. Gee about the same amount of land available at AP......

While I think it is a good step for BRC - a couple of questions you may be able to answer for me DD

1) The last newsletter issued to local residents stated that heights would aimed at up to 15 storeys in areas - given that this is only the neghbourhood plan approval and not the actual DA approval - is BRC still aiming to exceed the heights of the local Plan?

2) I note it was asked about the timeframe just above - is there any more information available about the staging and timing of the project other than 15-20 years?

3) Is the amount of residential capped or are the club going for an approval allowing the interchange of commercial and residential so that the offer can be adjusted as the market requires? (I'm mainly interested in as to whether there is a total cap on residential?)

Most of the above queries come from a selfish perspetive as a local resident. Not hugely looking forward to a large influx of residential property (in combination with the additional development at Portside and Hamilton Northshore).

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-13, 02:03 PM

They'd be all questions for the CEO of BRC, Garduen.  He'll respond pretty quickly if you flick him an email.

I note you're a local resident...have you participated in the community info sessions, etc?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Mar-14, 08:03 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-13, 11:51  AM

Whatever it takes, but a.s.a.p.

Either me or DD attending the opening of the new BRC venture

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-Mar-14, 08:14 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-13, 02:03  PM

They'd be all questions for the CEO of BRC, Garduen.  He'll respond pretty quickly if you flick him an email.

I note you're a local resident...have you participated in the community info sessions, etc?

Unfortunately with work/family commitments - I was never able to go to either the BRC (regarding the masterplan) or BCC sessions (regarding the local area plan). I know a fair few of the consultants working on the Masterplan so have been fairly aware of what they have been working to.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-14, 09:19 AM

Shame you missed those sessions, Garduen.

An email to the BRC CEO would definitely be the solution for you then.  Others on here would be keen to see the answers you receive, I'd reckon.

sferguson@brc.com.au

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-16, 07:51 PM

This week's Brisbane Development E-Newsletter:

Welcome to this week's edition of the Brisbane Development E-Newsletter.

The future of Brisbane's racing industry will be preserved and two new public parks created through the draft Racecourse Precinct Neighbourhood Plan supported unanimously by Council this week.

The draft plan will deliver a 5000 square metre public park within Eagle Farm racecourse and the conversion of the members’ car park into public parkland at the corner of Lancaster and Kitchener roads.

It will also assist the development of surplus land by the Brisbane Racing Club and support the upgrade of racing facilities at Doomben and Eagle Farm to world class standards.

Over the next 20 years a population increase of about 175 people per year is possible under the draft plan that covers the suburbs of Hamilton, Ascot and Hendra.

Within the Eagle Farm and Doomben racecourses, 19 hectares of land can be developed for mixed-use residential, retail, commercial uses and parkland.

Development within Eagle Farm racecourse will have a range of heights up to a maximum of a dozen storeys but there will be a maximum of five storeys fronting Nudgee Rd. Aged care accommodation and community facilities are supported within Doomben with a maximum height of five storeys.

Maximum heights of three storeys will be allowed along Lancaster Rd, four storeys on Racecourse Rd and five storeys on Kingsford Smith Drive for short term accommodation and office development.

The draft Racecourse Precinct Neighbourhood Plan will be sent to the State Government for review before again being released for public comment.

As always, I appreciate feedback on how we can further improve Council’ s development and planning functions. Please don't hesitate to contact me via e-mail at: chair.npda@brisbane.qld.gov.au

Cr Amanda Cooper
Chairman for Neighbourhood Planning and
Development Assessment  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Mar-17, 10:59 AM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-16, 07:51  PM

This week's Brisbane Development E-Newsletter:

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the conversion of the members’ car park into public parkland at the corner of Lancaster and Kitchener roads.

The up market townhouses lost :sad: big money last

Development within Eagle Farm racecourse will have a range of heights up to a maximum of a dozen storeys   but there will be a maximum of five storeys fronting Nudgee Rd.

I recall the Mein St corner development as a tower unit 7 storeys  :sad:   

Aged care accommodation and community facilities are supported within Doomben with a maximum height of five storeys.

 :what: Is this a compromise as it has never been published/advocated before?

Maximum heights of three storeys will be allowed along Lancaster Rd

Not so sure that this draft helps the proposed commercial development and the self-funding proposals

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-17, 04:43 PM

I thought the members' carpark was already a public park ..........not that it matters much :shy:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Mar-17, 04:48 PM

I wouldn't mind having a look to see how the traffic problem will be sorted.

If you have ever driven around that area on a Wed arvo you will know how bad it is.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Mar-17, 05:20 PM

Just see that Brett's Wharf is closing due to the traffic problems in that area

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2011-Mar-17, 06:07 PM

Quote from: gratlog on 2011-Mar-17, 05:20  PM

Just see that Brett's Wharf is closing due to the traffic problems in that area

Shite--I was going to take the Mrs there when I up there in June   :mad:

 :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Mar-17, 06:25 PM

Not closing till next year, I think so you should be OK.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Mar-18, 08:17 AM

Chuggers, I will join you if can suffer me.   Discuss details later.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-18, 12:08 PM

The restaurant is over-rated and over-priced - by about 100%.

Why wouldn't ya go to BRSSC.  There ya can eat, drink - and BET.  :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-18, 12:09 PM

vadim, good that you can see a lot of positives in the outcome.   emthup

arsenal, the car-park has always been QTC - now BRC - land.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Mar-18, 03:05 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-18, 12:09  PM

vadim, good that you can see a lot of positives in the outcome.    emthup  

I actually do see some positves DD - the retirment home might be ready for me by the time this all gets started  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Mar-18, 05:02 PM

Dear oh dear oh dear.  DD, next you will be telling me the Chinese takeaway up at the beach does better Peking Duck then the Flower Drum in Little Bourke St.  Bretts Wharf also has pelicans to watch during lunch, not pidgeons.  When you are a self funded retiree, you should try to help the ecomony and spend some of the stuff.

Fortunately Bretts Wharf owner also does his magic at The Tank in the city, phew, so I don't have to endure foodie rehab. 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-18, 06:02 PM

Norton, no need to try second-guessing me.  :lol:

The sea-food platter at BRSSC would feed you, me, vadim, mono and Barry Baldwin.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-18, 06:05 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-18, 06:02  PM

Norton, no need to try second-guessing me.   :lol:  

The sea-food platter at BRSSC would feed you, me, vadim, mono and Barry Baldwin.

For how long? :bop:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2011-Mar-18, 06:12 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-Mar-18, 08:17  AM

Chuggers, I will join you if can suffer me.   Discuss details later.

 8-)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-18, 07:34 PM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-18, 06:05  PM

For how long? :bop:

I dunno how long the Club can keep it going for $55 $40 (this month).

I'd get in tonight or tomorrow night and give it a try.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Mar-19, 06:32 AM

If I still had a GI tract that worked I would.  Is there a Entree serving available?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-22, 08:19 PM

A few BRC members dragged me aside on Saturday and reported that a Members' Stand ticket for the Slipper is now $200 - as a reciprocal member.

But, for the Doncaster and other Randwick meetings they receive a COMPLIMENTARY pass.

I thought the two Clubs had merged. :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-24, 11:33 AM

Seems a bit odd dubbles.......would be a big demand now catering for the combined members on their big day.

Guy I know who joined BRC said he was told his guest badges don't give access to the members bar on Stradbroke day.

Seems a bit odd if true. :whistle:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Mar-24, 12:19 PM

Arsenal

The AJC badge holders get STC priviledges this Sat (26/3) but not for Slipper.  The STC badge holders get AJC priviledges for one of the three AJC days (not sure which but someone said it was Doncaster Day).  This is an interim arrangement until the ATC decides how to manage both memberships in a merger situation.  Bit sloppy but I think the budgets for carnival were set prior to the merger of the two organisations and remain operational for the present. 

Regrettably DD is correct in stating that BRC / STC reciprocity for Slipper day costs $200.  I was going until I found out.  Quickly changed my air tickets for Sydney today to take me north to the Whitsundays this autumn where I will watch the Slipper on TV whilst sipping french champagne in a bit of $200 luxury in paradise.  Going to Syd / Melb peak carnivals have become way too expensive.  The VRC want close to $400 for a recip ticket for Melb Cup.  Crikey.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-24, 01:22 PM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-24, 11:33  AM

Seems a bit odd dubbles.......would be a big demand now catering for the combined members on their big day.

Guy I know who joined BRC said he was told his guest badges don't give access to the members bar on Stradbroke day.

Seems a bit odd if true. :whistle:

It seems odd to me, too, Arsenal.  That's what I posted the info.

Re BRC, the guy was informed correctly.  The situation is no different to what's applied for years.  I'm stunned that you missed it in all the members' messages.

A guest gets free entry, and entry into the Members' Reserve (worth $100 or more).  Surely there's not an expectation that a guest should get into a "members only" area on the biggest days of the year?  If that's required, join the Club.  Great value.   emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-24, 03:28 PM

dubbles you gotta be patient with me........what's the difference between the Members Reserve and the "members only area"?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-24, 03:33 PM

Arsenal, request noted.   :lol:

At EF, the Derby Bar is "members only" on the big days.

All other areas of JP Stand is Members Reserve - available to members, guests, owner, etc.

The major tracks in the south have equivalent defined areas.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-24, 03:58 PM

Thanks dubbles.........I  could get lost at EF .......... :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Mar-24, 04:29 PM

VRC, STC and AJC have similar areas where the guest ticket or recip ticket is not enough. 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Vintage on 2011-Mar-24, 06:55 PM

The best value meeting in Australia for reciprocity would have to be the Australia Cup/Newmarket meeting at Flemigton.

BRC members are entitled to 2 members passes for the day - and what a great days racing.

I haven't been to a Golden Slipper meeting for a few years but previously as a QTC/BTC member you were entitled to 1 members pass.  Unlikely to get to a meeting for a while by the sounds of it  :stop:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-26, 07:57 AM

Sounds a very good deal, Vintage.

You got value from your BRC sub in just one day. :no1:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: The Outsider on 2011-Mar-28, 12:33 PM

Ant word on the cost benefit analysis of the pie in the sky dreams of the BRC board ?

Should be a cracker of an AGM this year when the treasurer has to answer to how much of the members cash has been wasted on consultants for something that will never happen.

Maybe the treasurer (who I beleive wanders these corridors) can answer the question on how much of member's land is being wrapped up in a gift box and being delivered to the offices of Watpac ?  :/ :/ :/

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-Mar-28, 01:43 PM

Quote from: The Outsider on 2011-Mar-28, 12:33  PM

Ant word on the cost benefit analysis of the pie in the sky dreams of the BRC board ?

Should be a cracker of an AGM this year when the treasurer has to answer to how much of the members cash has been wasted on consultants for something that will never happen.

Maybe the treasurer (who I beleive wanders these corridors) can answer the question on how much of member's land is being wrapped up in a gift box and being delivered to the offices of Watpac ?  :/ :/ :/

You still going to have a job after the next election outsider ;)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Mar-28, 01:55 PM

Under the BRC Constitution there is no Treasurer.  That role now comes within the office of the CEO.  I am told there is a Finance Committee but I do not know its terms of reference.

Why the sudden declaration the BRC plans are pie in sky? Genuine question...I have not heard of any dramatic changes that would cause doubt.  Why do you say it will never happen.  Possible change in Premier should guarantee the approved development can proceed.  Campbell Newman launched the thing as far as I recall. 

The joint venture matter was disclosed at day one.....no surprise there.  Rumour is that aspects of the RQL plan could be joint venture, so there is a benchmark for you.  The RNA Project already is with Lend Lease.

Please enlighten.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-28, 03:35 PM

Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Mar-28, 01:43  PM

You still going to have a job after the next election outsider ;)

Definitely a nominee for post of the year, MagiC. :clap2:

Do we have a Forum Hall of Fame, BTW?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-28, 03:49 PM

Quote from: The Outsider on 2011-Mar-08, 09:36  PM

I hear that the flea market is dead in the water and the only people who are happy with what has gone on are the consultants who have made been paid big $.

If they can't get a flea market up, how are they going to get a major development up ?

I think a rock bounced back right between your eyes, outsider.  Although, reading your posts you might have just the one. :yes:

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-28, 04:29 PM

Arsenal, when you get your copy of the Newsletter, please see inside back cover.

Something right up your alley.

I'm in.  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Mar-28, 04:44 PM

Message to Members from BRC Chairman:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-28, 04:47 PM

Thanks dubbles..........I'll check it out. :thumbsup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-Mar-28, 06:10 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-Mar-28, 01:55  PM

Under the BRC Constitution there is no Treasurer.  That role now comes within the office of the CEO.  I am told there is a Finance Committee but I do not know its terms of reference.

Why the sudden declaration the BRC plans are pie in sky? Genuine question...I have not heard of any dramatic changes that would cause doubt.  Why do you say it will never happen.  Possible change in Premier should guarantee the approved development can proceed.  Campbell Newman launched the thing as far as I recall. 

The joint venture matter was disclosed at day one.....no surprise there.  Rumour is that aspects of the RQL plan could be joint venture, so there is a benchmark for you.  The RNA Project already is with Lend Lease.

Please enlighten.

I also wouldn't have thought that under the BRC partnership with Watpac that the important question is how much land is involved in private (or call it non-core racing) development - that is the element being leveraged to enable the racing side of the redevelopment. Rather what is the valuation being placed on that land in terms of the commercial deal between all parties and who holds what risk on both the private and racing sides of the development?

As a side note - I notice in the press that RNA kicked off their redevelopment with a press conference today, the Industrial Pavilion being the first part of the redevelopment there. As you say Norton, a not too disimilar style project to BRC (private and non-private development) with similar timescales and similar styles of private development.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-05, 03:41 PM

There's some light reading matter available in BRC's offices.

The rock-throwers won't wanna believe it, but the Master Plan Application has gone to Council.

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Apr-05, 03:46 PM

I wish some of them would direct a few at the pidgeons roosting up in the stand..Not safe to drink a cup of coffee up there now., :mad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-05, 04:12 PM

Well, mono, maybe the Club should hire some professional rock-throwers rather than the amateurs on here. :chin:

Perhaps increase either or both training fees or membership fees to cover costs. :chin:  But seeing I pay both I wouldn't be in favour of either. :nowink:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-Apr-05, 06:41 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-05, 03:41  PM

There's some light reading matter available in BRC's offices.

The rock-throwers won't wanna believe it, but the Master Plan Application has gone to Council.

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It's an interesting read. Will be following keenly to see how they go in getting the proposed building heights through given the new local area plan proposes height restrictions less than the Masterplan in its current form. If they get it through it will change the perspective of the neighbourhood completely (and in my opinion - not necessarily for the better either).

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-05, 07:08 PM

If RQL wants to do a significant redevelopment of Deagon to take trots and dogs (lights, power, roads, buildings, water, sewerage, car parks, noise etc) does it have to follow a similar path as BRC has done to Council?  Remember this would be the building of an Interdom venue.  If that is the case, would we see EF well under way before Deagon even starts?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-Apr-05, 09:58 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-Apr-05, 07:08  PM

If RQL wants to do a significant redevelopment of Deagon to take trots and dogs (lights, power, roads, buildings, water, sewerage, car parks, noise etc) does it have to follow a similar path as BRC has done to Council?  Remember this would be the building of an Interdom venue.  If that is the case, would we see EF well under way before Deagon even starts?

Happy to answer it in this thread if that suits all but move if off topic to the BRC thread. All of the below is a basic overview without any particular knowledge of the specifics in zoning requirements at Deagon.

By path I am guessing you mean the process to get the plans approved - then yes. Essentially the plans would require RQL to submit a Development Application to Council for any of the works. It is likely to be a fair bit simpler than the BRC Application in that as far as I can tell, there is no real change in use under the RQL plans (e.g. it is probably zoned for sporting & recreation purposes and that really isn't changing). All of the items you mentioned would have to be addressed within the DA application. This is nothing unusual for a development of that size. 

As for timing - it is an interesting question. The BRC application is for approval of the masterplan and to create the planning framework under which the future applications for development on the site will be assessed. This application just submitted is essentially only the preliminary approval application - each building or building exercise going forward that under BCC planning requirements triggers the need for a DA (which will be basically everything) will need submit its own DA application. Given the proposal contradicts the draft Local Area plan (and I am not up to speed on the current Neighbourhood planning requirements in terms of height restrictions) - there is every chance that this could take some time. The cynic in me says that the BCC (still under the influence of Newman) could look to fast track this through (on the basis all planning requirements are met) as a means of showing the world that such developments can be approved in quick fashion without the need for a ULDA type organisation at state level to bust through the bureaucracy that city councils like BCC are well known for. Given the BRC Application exceeds Council nominated heights in the private development building in more cases than not, it will be interesting to see how the LNP/BCC handle it all.

Even if the prelim approval is forthcoming fairly quickly, you would then need to submit the individual DA for whatever the first part of the development is (no staging or sequencing has been released as far as I am aware). On the basis that the Planning Report submitted as a part of the Application basically says the ability to provide all of the public and racing facilities is contingent on getting approval for the private development as is, I am guessing that a level of private development is required first in order to commence funding the public/racing development. If this is either resi or commercial (and given the property cycle at the moment I am guessing it will be resi first) then a high level of pre-sales would be required in order for Watpac to obtain development funding for the first project. I do acknowledge that a level of site infrastructure upgrades may be required first but didn't think this was the sort of "first shovel in the ground" type of action you had in mind.

So where does that leave BRC vs RQL at Deagon (wrt starting proposed works first) - your guess is as good as mine but there is still a fair bit of water to go under both bridges before either get a start.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-06, 07:05 AM

Thank you Garduen.  That all makes sense to an old health care professional.

As an aside I am not convinced that the benefits of the ULDA outweigh its limitations.  I know of at least one ULDA project that is "forced" by the political process without due regard for citizens.  And that Paul Lucas is now Minister for ULDA matters.  Having served under PL previously, I am not a fan of his methods nor do I believe he is competent in any ministry.  But that is for another debate for another day.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-Apr-06, 07:26 AM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-Apr-06, 07:05  AM

Thank you Garduen.  That all makes sense to an old health care professional.

As an aside I am not convinced that the benefits of the ULDA outweigh its limitations.  I know of at least one ULDA project that is "forced" by the political process without due regard for citizens.  And that Paul Lucas is now Minister for ULDA matters.  Having served under PL previously, I am not a fan of his methods nor do I believe he is competent in any ministry.  But that is for another debate for another day.

Still singing straight from the LNP songsheet hey Norton (don't worry - I have seen the briefing docs as well summarising the messages for the supporters to get out there). Unless you work in property - I can't see how the ULDA has any influence on the average persons life. A normal person would not realise anything different in living in a ULDA area than they would under a City Council planning controlled area.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-06, 10:05 AM

Garduen I recognise that ULDA is a developer's dream ship, and I expect to hear your opinions reflect that interest. 

But affected citizens CAN and DO have a different view to the developer.  At least the Council process had more checks and balances in it if you, say, live on the boundary of objections are given flippant concern.  At least with Council a resident can get close to the decision makers.  With ULDA your objection is filed with the 1000 others, assessed by a project officer who is focussed only on pleasing his boss and working within the terms of reference of his project.

If you are dissatisfied with the outcome, they tell you to contact the Minister.  Gimmie strength.  I know Paul Lucas reads about 1% of his correspondence.

But lets save this debate until the election campaign heats up.

BTW good EW chance in Melbourne today.  R6 #7 Can Do.  Up in class here but will give a show.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Apr-06, 09:27 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-Apr-06, 10:05  AM

BTW good EW chance in Melbourne today.  R6 #7 Can Do.  Up in class here but will give a show.

For those of you that missed this performance;

Src    11    BELLE CHANTECLER
Jack Hill(a2)
Lee Freedman
           

Race 6 RESULTS 3:52 PM EST Betfair Handicap 1300m $30,000
   No    Horse    Jockey    Trainer    Wg    Margin    Odds
1st    2    SENSE OF SUN(10)
Steven Arnold
Sheila Arnold 
59.0    1-16.25    $3.60/$4.20F 
2nd    9    FINISHING CARD(1)
Danny Nikolic
Clinton McDonald 
56.0    1.3L    $3.80/$5.50 
3rd    1    ROCKY TIMES(3)
Glen Boss
Jason Clifford 
59.0    1.5L    $5/$5.50 
4th    12    FURLINE(8)
Craig Williams
Phillip Stokes 
55.0    1.7L    $7/$7 
5th    16    MOROSSA(7)
Dean Yendall
Leon Corstens 
53.0    1.8L    $17/$17 
6th    14    VITEX(5)
Stephen Baster
Dale Sutton 
53.5    1.9L    $31/$31 
7th    4    ITIMIO(9)
Lisa Cropp
Michael Moroney 
57.5    2.1L    $14/$15 
8th    11    DELIVER THE DREAM(2)
Luke Nolen
Peter G Moody 
55.0    2.2L    $7/$10 
9th    7    CAN DO(12)
Brad Rawiller
Darren Weir   57.0    3.4L    $21/$20 
10th    6    RED COUPE(4)
Jake Noonan
Tony Noonan 
57.5    4.2L    $21/$26 
11th    10    SAFETY IN NUMBERS(11)
Craig Newitt
John P Thompson 
56.0    4.6L    $26/$26 
12th    8    COLONIAL BOY(13)
Jason Maskiell
Jim Mason 
56.0    7.3L    $16/$18 
13th    3    GRAND RANSOM(6)
Mark Zahra
John Moloney 
57.5    10.3L    $14/$19

Not a good start to the campaign   :lol:  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-07, 09:01 AM

Finishing Card then continued to shift out for the majority of the straight resulting in Itimio being taken out off its course and this resulted in Can Do having to be steadied off the heels of Itimio near the 150m.   After taking into account that Finishing Card was hanging out and that Itimio did have a tendency to shift out away from Finishing Card in the middle stages of the straight, the Stewards issued D Nikolic with a severe reprimand for permitting his mount to shift out and was notified that he would be expected to show more endeavour to straighten his mounts than he did on this occasion.

It was going to win, when the dastardly Nikolic knocked his legs from under him.  As unlucky as Funtantes ever was.  Typical of the "dirty" tricks tactics the real Can Do will have to encounter in the run to the election.  Never fear, he can give as much as he gets.

You can see the replay when they put them up later today at http://horseracing.bigpondsport.com/  Just choose Sandown R6 from the archive.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Apr-07, 10:05 PM

 :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-08, 08:21 AM

Hey Vadim. Just an aside.  One of the Funtantes owners told me yesty it has been almost two years since a win, but she has still earned decent prizemoney in the meantime.  Gee she has been unlucky.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Apr-09, 09:00 AM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-Apr-08, 08:21  AM

Hey Vadim. Just an aside.  One of the Funtantes owners told me yesty it has been almost two years since a win, but she has still earned decent prizemoney in the meantime.  Gee she has been unlucky.

:sad: :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-12, 08:37 PM

Hey those BRC markets look bloody good.  Take a look at these pics:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/mareepeterson/sets/72157626340854249/

I am a regular shopper at the Powerhouse markets (where I have been banned at the curry stall for oversampling) and rate the BRC ones in the same paddock of greatness.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Apr-13, 06:37 AM

Should be a good venue for them.
 
    A bit far for me to go when I have two markets within short walking distance but Eagle Farm should be a top spot for this.
     All depends on how good the stall holders are as it is very competitive.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-13, 08:41 AM

Wonderful venue in the right location.

BIG.  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-13, 09:48 AM

You have got me thinking now about multifunctional use of the BRC grounds.  I reckon there is enough space to house the control body for racing.  Hmmmm.  Down the Old Ledger area perhaps?  What is planned for that space that was occupied by the racecourse manager?  Might suggest that in the halls of power if the opportunity arises.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-13, 11:08 AM

From plans shown to Members, that's the area for residential buildings, Norton.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-13, 11:20 AM

Ahhh.  Oh well lets not go there.  At least the people in the residences pay their way.  :whistle:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Apr-13, 08:20 PM

Being an unrefined goon who has never been to "markets", is it common practice to charge an entry fee?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Apr-13, 08:26 PM

I did notice the $2.00 entrance fee.  :rant:  but as they say nothings' free these days.

Wonder if you can get a XXXX there.?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-13, 09:19 PM

Quote from: DJH on 2011-Apr-13, 08:20  PM

Being an unrefined goon who has never been to "markets", is it common practice to charge an entry fee?

Most are free eg: Southbank and others which are public places like Eagle St. or the Mall ,Davies Park  but Showgrounds charge usually $1 or $2

Coorparoo Markets open from Thurs thru Sun are free.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Apr-14, 06:13 AM

Cost more to go to the markets than a midweek meeting :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Apr-14, 08:21 AM

   I suppose insurance for these things would cost a whack.

   When they went to start some small markets up the road from my place  insurance was the main hurdle.
  The local shopkeepers paid it and have been well rewarded as it is now packed there on a Sunday.

   Insurance will probably go up again soon so you can understand the $2 charge.

   

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Apr-14, 03:33 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-05, 03:41  PM

There's some light reading matter available in BRC's offices.

The rock-throwers won't wanna believe it, but the Master Plan Application has gone to Council.

For those of you with a little time on your hands the preliminary application is up on the web-site;

http://pdonline.brisbane.qld.gov.au/masterview/masterplan/enquirer/default.aspx?page=disclaimer

Go to Application Enquiry and post A003048197.

Some interesting reading - more later  ;)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-14, 03:36 PM

Ripper.  Thanks Vadim.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Vintage on 2011-Apr-18, 03:53 PM

Monday last week I contacted some of the usual cronies I hang out with at the races to let them know the better half and I were booking a table for lunch in the 10,000 room or on the Terraces for the Racefest race day (BC planned to be here) and to get back to me asap if interested.  As always there were a few who were straight in while a couple who were umming and ahhing to the point last night (still seats available) where I said I'm booking tomorrow, let me know before then.  Of course go to book today but 'sold out'.  Shaping up to be a busy carnival if only the rain can stay away!

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Apr-18, 04:47 PM

Yeah Vintage should be a great day, just hope the mighty BC is there on the day.

We have a box booked for the day and I think a few of the forum members will be in attendance.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-18, 04:58 PM

The Caviar and Champagne function was reportedly the hot number last week.  Sold out.

Press reports that a new function room is under construction at Doomben above the old tote house.  Should help house the BC fans.

Plus, a permanent roof over the bookies' ring.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-18, 06:44 PM

That'l make DJH happy.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Apr-18, 10:26 PM

Quote from: Vintage on 2011-Apr-18, 03:53  PM

Monday last week I contacted some of the usual cronies I hang out with at the races to let them know the better half and I were booking a table for lunch in the 10,000 room or on the Terraces for the Racefest race day (BC planned to be here) and to get back to me asap if interested.  As always there were a few who were straight in while a couple who were umming and ahhing to the point last night (still seats available) where I said I'm booking tomorrow, let me know before then.  Of course go to book today but 'sold out'.  Shaping up to be a busy carnival if only the rain can stay away!

Like on the punt Mono can get it wrong. I think the Mafia are booked for the 14th her 1st visit  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-19, 08:21 AM

I thought the Mafia had booked a private box Vadim.   You wouldn't turn up unless the venue was min 3 levels off the ground with restricted access......something to do with mafia "security".

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Apr-19, 04:32 PM

Vadim I didn't read anywhere where Vintage said it was on 10,000 race day...his  only mention was of  the 10,000 room.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Apr-19, 09:43 PM

Quote from: monologue on 2011-Apr-19, 04:32  PM

Vadim I didn't read anywhere where Vintage said it was on 10,000 race day...his  only mention was of  the 10,000 room.

 :tears:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Apr-19, 09:45 PM

Has anyone had a chance to read through the realms of paperwork on the preliminary works application?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-20, 09:39 AM

Not yet Vadim.  One of my to do's once I give away the punt (not long away).

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Apr-20, 04:40 PM

Quote from: vadim on 2011-Apr-19, 09:43  PM

:tears:

Racefest (feat. Bundaberg Distilling Co. BTC Cup)

Your forgiven vadim for your indescretion but don't let it happen again otherwise I won't help with your First Fours in future.   :beer:                             

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-21, 01:52 PM

Construction of the new Doomben betting ring is well under way.

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-21, 01:58 PM

DD I dropped 2 shillings down that drain hole in 1962.  Can you see if they can give it back to me.  After the sharemarket returns so far this week I could use it.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Apr-21, 02:04 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-21, 01:52  PM

Construction of the new Doomben betting ring is well under way.
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Silly me - here I was thinking that the footing was the swimming pool alluded to in the plan  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: motorboater on 2011-Apr-21, 02:16 PM

Very nice.  Glad they are doing something and not keeping those temporary structures. 

How long 'till it's up and running?  In time for the carnival I'm guessing?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-21, 02:31 PM

Well, if it's not ready for May 14 someone will get the sack.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Apr-21, 04:24 PM

Is the members bar open tomorrow?.....we will fill it with the hangeroners.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-21, 05:51 PM

Nothing's open tomorrow - for humans at least.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-21, 07:55 PM

I seem to remember there was a big dust up over the construction of the betting ring .....when was that? 30 years ago :whistle:

The guy  involved did some work for me......it was first class. :thumbsup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-21, 08:00 PM

Go easy DD he is from the southside of the Brisbane River.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Apr-22, 09:23 AM

Yes, Norton, that fact did cross my mind.  :rolleyes:

Info from BRC to Members re BTC Cup Day:

Racefest is set to be just one of the many highlights of the 2011 Channel Seven Brisbane Racing Carnival on the 14th of May with the arrival of the undefeated Black Caviar! After 12 straight wins, she'll be going for number 13 when she competes in the Group 1 Bundaberg Distilling Co. BTC Cup at Doomben Racecourse.

Don't miss out when she cements her name in history and see Black Caviar in the flesh.

Brisbane Racing Club would like to take this opportunity to inform patrons that numbers will be capped at 20,000 to ensure the enjoyment of all patrons on the day. Members are advised to arrive early on BTC Cup Day.If you have not yet secured tickets to one of the many exclusive Carnival functions, you'll be glad to hear limited availabilities remain.

Book your tickets into The Lookout, Doomben Racecourses' newest venue, overlooking the beautiful Mounting Enclosure (perfect to pick your winner), then head to the Members Reserve for a prime view of the home straight and winning post.

Limited spaces also remain in the Homestraight Lawn Enclosure, situated just metres from the homestraight rail. Enjoy all the fesitivities of the day with your own reserved car space and picnic area, with the Doomben Grandstands a dramatic backdrop. Complete with Tote facilities, bars and racecourse admission, the Homestraight Lawn is a fantastic value experience for any racegoer.

Gates will open from 10:30am on the 14th of May, so whether you will be attending one of these exclusive functions or simply making the most of Doomben Racecourses' great Members Reserve, arrive early to ensure you don't miss out on being part of Racefest. Any additional guests, whom do not have a BRC Members Badge or a BRC Guest Badge can purchase their tickets online from Ticketek here.  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-Apr-22, 10:37 AM

I know where the holes in the fence are at Doomben, so if anyone gets there late and gets locked out, just give me a call.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-22, 06:05 PM

Checked the BRC site for admission.......$29 ............pensioners free as usual I presume.

Member for a day $105..........reserved car parking in the catering  packages before10.30am....closes at 5.30pm.

It'll be standing room only  if capped at 20,000.

Unless it rains. :bleh:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-22, 06:06 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-Apr-22, 10:37  AM

I know where the holes in the fence are at Doomben, so if anyone gets there late and gets locked out, just give me a call.

There's a drain you can use isn't there? or was that over the road.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-03, 05:15 PM

Bob hasn't wasted any time in having a crack at the BRC following Obi's claim  on Monday in the CM that the club is being short changed by RQL.


RQL chairman responds to Mark Oberhardt article

Tuesday, 3 May 2011 2:59 PM


Let’s separate the smoke and mirrors and look at the Brisbane Racing Club (BRC) funding.
 
 
 
Mark Oberhardt, in his article of May 2, 2011, looks to apportion the blame for the substandard facilities at Eagle Farm to Racing Queensland Limited (RQL) for the perceived lack of funding provided to the BRC.

 
 
The BRC chairman Kevin Dixon two years ago, on April 15, 2009, announced “one of the biggest developments in Queensland’s history” and went on to say that, “The 10-year $1.2 billion development would create thousands of jobs and ensure Brisbane has the finest racing facilities”.
 
 
 
The BRC chairman’s letter of March 2011 quotes Kevin Dixon as saying, “The master plan project remains on track, and despite some uninformed rumours, remains entirely financially attractive and self-funding”.
 
 
 
RQL fully supports the development plans of the BRC board to progress this development but it is obvious to any stakeholder that the BRC are more than financially capable of presenting their racecourse in an acceptable state, today and into the future.
 
 
 
The BRC is a private members club, no different from any other club with the assets being owned and controlled by its members. The massive $1.2 billion self-funding development in conjunction with Watpac, as project managers, will realise substantial profits after the development of the racing facilities. The BRC are most fortunate to have the valuable assets of Eagle Farm, which was gifted to the members in 2001, and the Doomben real estate to leverage profitable development opportunities.
 
 
 
The BRC remains in the best racing space in Queensland, being awarded the best racing program, Saturday race dates and being provided with 100 per cent prizemoney funding. The BRC receive, in addition to the $940,000 administration subsidy, training track subsidy, oncourse tote commissions, Sky Racing broadcast fees and broadcast subsidy. For the 2010/11 financial year, the Sky Racing broadcast revenue for the BRC has risen considerably.

 
 
Additionally, the club also derives further revenue from bookmakers turnover tax, bookmakers stand fees, training fees, stable rent, membership fees, bar and catering, and retains all sponsorship revenue. As well RQL funds all integrity services.
 
 
 
There is a cost of maintaining racecourses, but the figure quoted by Mark Oberhardt is grossly inflated.
 
 
 
RQL provides substantial support to all race clubs with the BRC receiving the majority support. The BRC are responsible for the presentation of the public facilities and any shortcomings in this presentation should not be blamed on the control body or any other party.
 

RQL has constructed the racing program for the Winter Carnival and provided 100 per cent of the prizemoney to ensure that the racing is exciting and competitive. It’s up to the BRC to uphold its obligations to the industry, its members and the public by capitalising on the opportunities presented.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Vintage on 2011-May-03, 09:01 PM

The family and I ventured out to the markets at EF Sunday just gone and thoroughly enjoyed a couple of hours poking around on a spectacular morning.  Pleasantly surprised at the range of stalls and my mum certainly appreciated the roses we took along to lunch afterwards and the 5yo daughter has cleaned up the tuscan mix olives already.

I have no idea on the eonomics of markets such as this for those putting them on or the vendors but it certainly looks like they are off to a good start.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: StorminNorman on 2011-May-03, 09:55 PM

BRC Pays the costs of the Training and Racetrack, Can someone Ask Bentley who pays for the Training and Racetrack upkeep Costs at Sunshine Coast and Rockhampton...... Racing Queensland...Money comes out of General revenue from the TAB....So in a Nutshell the Industry Pays for the upkeep.  The cost for the Maintenance at Sunshine Coast alone, far outweighs the $980 000 that is paid to BRC.  So Racing Queensland fills in the Gap using Industry Money....Or Should I say, Prizemoney Funds.  Why can't they fill in the Gap at all Race Clubs?.  Then I'm sure all Clubs would have Taj Mahals built for the Patrons with the Money that is Currently being spent on the Tracks.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: StorminNorman on 2011-May-04, 09:19 PM

I must say, I can follow the blogs on issues that mean nothing to racing and when there is some form of fact put out, everyone Ducks for Cover.  No Wonder Racing in Queensland is going Backwards, you don't know when your on a Good Thing.  This Bloke Bentley is on the Ropes, He's about to Go Down, Now is the Time to do the Kicking.... to keep Him Down.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-May-04, 09:44 PM

Not defending the situation at all SN, but do you think the reason RQ pays the bills at the 2 tracks you mention has something to do with the fact they essentially own them?

I am sure if BRC signed over their assets RQ would be happy to pay the bills at EF and Doomben(well they would sell that, but...)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: StorminNorman on 2011-May-04, 09:50 PM

Agree, but they're not paying, the Industry is paying for the upkeep of these tracks.... I hope RQ doesn't think that by owning these Racetracks they can generate a profit to put back into racing across Queensland.  It's Paper Money.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-May-04, 09:59 PM

RQ has no interest in generating a profit to put back into racing  :no:

They are a Govt body who is doing the politically correct thing of slowly eliminating gambling on horses  :yes:
and eventually ending the existence of the racing industry

When will the racing participants realise this and defend their position?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: StorminNorman on 2011-May-04, 10:58 PM

Keep Kicking....RQ

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: uate on 2011-May-07, 12:20 AM

How can the BRC not afford to clean bird c*ap off the seats but can afford $180k for a Development Application ? .. and thats just the council fee .. need to plus plus plus the consultants fees.  :/ :/

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-07, 08:52 AM

Quote from: uate on 2011-May-07, 12:20  AM

How can the BRC not afford to clean bird c*ap off the seats but can afford $180k for a Development Application ? .. and thats just the council fee .. need to plus plus plus the consultants fees.  :/ :/

Welcome to the forum, uate.

We need fair-minded people interested in Brisbane racing.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-May-07, 08:55 AM

  :lol:

Uate, welcome mate.  3 good posts so far. keep ém coming.  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: uate on 2011-May-07, 09:25 AM

Some very interesting questions coming up at the AGM methinks.

Do we know if Kevin Seymour or any other rep of Watpac will be there to answer them ? Members might as well get the answers from the people that are running the joint.  :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-10, 05:58 PM

Can someone remind me why Seymour / Watpac is the antiChrist?  What about Lend Lease who also enjoy joint venture arrangements elsewhere?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-May-10, 06:05 PM

Who are Lend Lease in bed with Norts ?

Not RQ are they ?

If so I wonder if there are any members of this forum in the employ of Lend Lease that are fighting the good fight for RQ on here :o

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-10, 06:59 PM

RNA....same principle as the BRC model.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-May-10, 09:19 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-May-10, 06:59  PM

RNA....same principle as the BRC model.

And started at the same time as we did. They are turning soil we are two years away!

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-11, 07:37 PM

Not correct Vadim.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: poxdoctor on 2011-May-12, 10:22 PM

$8 race books for the weekend?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-May-13, 07:59 AM

Printing costs must be higher in Brisbane.

The 156 page racebook from the Gold Coast Prime Ministers Cup meeting was $5.00.

I will be happy to part with $8.00 for a racebook which in time may well be a collecters item.

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Post by: gratlog on 2011-May-13, 08:04 AM

Quote from: monologue on 2011-May-13, 07:59  AM

Printing costs must be higher in Brisbane.

The 156 page racebook from the Gold Coast Prime Ministers Cup meeting was $5.00.

I will be happy to part with $8.00 for a racebook which in time may well be a collecters item.

 Not if there are 20,000 sold  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-May-13, 08:31 AM

Grats I wouldn't imagine they would have printed 20,000 racebooks.

This will be a one off for me ( buying a racebook).  I have no need to purchase a book for my form or race fields.

Good luck to the club and I do hope they make a few bucks out of them but I'd imagine they will be limit  giving out racebooks to all owners as most clubs normally do when they have a runner.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-May-13, 09:06 AM

What state was using Best Bets instead of printing a racebook?  Maybe South Australia and I reckon that is a good idea.

Yes Mono , they probably wouldn't risk printing too many .  Be no refund from the printer on any returns .  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: motorboater on 2011-May-13, 10:49 AM

In fairness to the BRC this is a much better quality publication than what they normally throw out.  I'd be happy to pay 8 bucks for this one.  I find $5 for the usual guide that doesn't even have wet track form a bit tough to stomach.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-May-13, 11:04 AM

Yes, in what you spending on the day $8 is not much money

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Mick on 2011-May-13, 01:52 PM

Agree with you Gratlog.It costs twice as much for a programme to a concert & ten times the admission charge.I know who I would prefer to see,Black Caviar or Andre Rieu.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-13, 06:00 PM

I wouldn't be bagging the product until I saw it.

It could be high print quality, in full colour, with speed maps, comments for each horse, etc.

The purists will say, "we don't need all that crap".  But the majority of racing purists these days are sitting at home in their lounge.  Today's crowds are more likely to be young, female, occasional racegoers, who are seeking the sort of info contained in tomorrow's book.

Personally, I'll willingly pay $8 for any program when I'm at a racecourse where Black Caviar and Hay List are competing.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Racehorses on 2011-May-13, 10:30 PM

The book looks good to me lovely photo of BC on the front, page 19 is a good idea, congrats to BRC  ())=(

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Vintage on 2011-May-14, 08:39 AM

My better half was giving it a wrap during brekky this morning - I didn't even know it was on-line.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: winston on 2011-May-14, 09:50 AM

Good luck to all the crew at the Brc I know you will have a ripper of a day.......go the caviar.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-May-14, 04:56 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-Apr-22, 10:37  AM

I know where the holes in the fence are at Doomben, so if anyone gets there late and gets locked out, just give me a call.

Given the official crowd numbers exceeded 20,000, a few must have taken you up on the offer    :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-14, 05:34 PM

You would have been welcome in vadim's tent.  You certainly were a point of discussion.  A few Forumites were there.



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Post by: Norton on 2011-May-14, 06:12 PM

Was nice to see a racecourse packed to the rafters again.  Problem is that there were probably too many.......hopefully some will keep the interest up for 10,000 day.



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Post by: Norton on 2011-May-14, 06:16 PM

Vadim, true to form, chose the private suite once the exclusive use of Russ Hinze.  That's Vadim standing in the box at the far left of the top of the main stand.  Wonder if he found any money under the seats.

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Post by: Norton on 2011-May-14, 06:22 PM

All eyes were on BC in the mounting yard, which is now behind the members Stand.  Even Alan Thomas, our revered SKY caller, took time out from the cans to watch in awe.  If only he had known about the mob below trying to share his view, he would have locked the door.  Or would he?





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Post by: Garduen on 2011-May-14, 06:26 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-May-14, 06:12  PM

Was nice to see a racecourse packed to the rafters again.  Problem is that there were probably too many

That was the feedback from family who were there today. My old man said the members area was heaving there were so many people there.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2011-May-14, 06:27 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-May-14, 06:22  PM

All eyes were on BC in the mounting yard, which is now behind the members Stand.  Even Alan Thomas, our revered SKY caller, took time out from the cans to watch in awe.  If only he had known about the mob below trying to share his view, he would have locked the door.  Or would he?

Can I meet any of those shielas at the Straddy meeting Norton  ???

I am always up for general chatter    :lol:

 8-)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-14, 06:40 PM

Crowd figures reported on SKY 20,134......that'll be a record I reckon.

No news on racebook sales tho.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-14, 06:42 PM

Am sure DD will do his best to accomodate you Chuggers.  

The scenes after the race were spectacular too.

Nice to see Luke Nolan with a career highlight.  Only two years ago to the day Luke lay seriously injured and unconscious on the turf at the 200M having crashed in a race fall.




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Post by: monologue on 2011-May-14, 06:55 PM

Wow what a day at the races.

Never seen a crowd like that at Doomben for a long while.
From our vantage point up in one of the boxes it was just a sea of people.

Racebooks were moving out pretty fast when I purchased ours and plenty of punters were buying up  Black Caviar caps and flags.

Got congratulate the BRC and all associated with making this a day to remember.

Thanks to a couple of committee people who popped into our box to make sure all was well. 
We had a couple of the connections of Buffering up in the box and I'm sure they were as pleased as punch with the effort of their horse.

Bring on the 10,000. :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2011-May-14, 07:01 PM

Quote from: monologue on 2011-May-14, 06:55  PM

Thanks to a couple of committee people who popped into our box to make sure all was well. 

Bring on the 10,000. :clap2:

Yep and a drink as well--  :lol:

You should be proud to be part of a special day--and I want to come for the latter---but the family have dragged me in   :mad:

So I will see you at the Straddy.

 :clap2: 8-)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-14, 10:11 PM

Wonderful crowd turned up for the Race of the Century.  Racebooks sold out.  Some very positive comments from patrons on the new format.

Numbers certainly exceeded my expectations.  Onwards to the Ten Thousand.

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Post by: Spudda028 on 2011-May-14, 10:26 PM

Chuggers, I'll handle the general chatter with the lovelies thank you-can't have you getting into strife with the lovely Juggers can we........

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2011-May-14, 10:32 PM

Quote from: Spudda028 on 2011-May-14, 10:26  PM

Chuggers, I'll handle the general chatter with the lovelies thank you-can't have you getting into strife with the lovely Juggers can we........

Yep--I think you could handle it better than me  :yes:
Shite--I can always dream    :lol: ---they still all look good    :biggrin:

looking forward to Straddy---see you there.

 :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: ricochet88 on 2011-May-15, 07:29 AM

Great picture DD only thing missing was me but at least I was at Randwick for the TJ.

                                                                                           Ricochet

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-May-15, 11:06 AM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-May-14, 06:16  PM

Vadim, true to form, chose the private suite once the exclusive use of Russ Hinze.  That's Vadim standing in the box at the far left of the top of the main stand.  Wonder if he found any money under the seats.

The only way you could have taken this photo Norton would have been from the marquee set aside exclusively for the Black Caviar brigade. Obviously swanning it again.

In all seriousness though congratulations to the Club. A great day for all those that attended. Witnessed a couple of altercations from afar but having wandered through the crowd on two or three occasions most seemed well behaved and enjoying the atmosphere.

The Club did well to get the new facilities up and running principally for Members.

Onwards and upwards. A terrific start to the Carnival in Brisbane.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-15, 11:44 AM

I can truthfully deny that I had no caviar yesterday  :sick: .  But I did get a hug and a kiss from the lovely Sofie Formica. :heart:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-15, 11:50 AM

Quote from: vadim on 2011-May-15, 11:06  AM

The only way you could have taken this photo Norton would have been from the marquee set aside exclusively for the Black Caviar brigade. Obviously swanning it again.

In all seriousness though congratulations to the Club. A great day for all those that attended. Witnessed a couple of altercations from afar but having wandered through the crowd on two or three occasions most seemed well behaved and enjoying the atmosphere.

The Club did well to get the new facilities up and running principally for Members.

Onwards and upwards. A terrific start to the Carnival in Brisbane.

vadim

He turned up yesterday, looking important, with SLR around his neck.  I just pointed to my phone, and said "this is a real camera".  :lol:   Someone asked me if he was a part-owner of Black Caviar. :shutup:

The facilities certainly caused some positive feedback to the Club.  Dunno if you saw the new Lookout, but that's a prime position.  Might be a good place for a young members' venue.  (Shame you and I would be barred.  Norton would probably get in hiding under some sheila's skirt.)

Had you seen the place on Friday morning, you'd have been justified in asking "Is there a meeting on here tomorrow."   A lot of work done by a lot of people in a short space of time.  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-May-15, 11:51 AM

Good to see norton put in an appearence up into our box.
He can certainly sniff out our hiding spots.

Did I see him sneak off with a couple of xxxx under his shirt?  :lol:

Great day for the club, congratulations to all involved and I reckon they will be cleaning up for a week after that, and that's just our box. :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-15, 12:05 PM

  :bleh:

Gee, I hope I never get as old as you blokes. 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Spudda028 on 2011-May-15, 12:20 PM

Hey mono any reason it took till almost midday to post? Big day / night I take it? Bit of a Sunday morning sleep in?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-May-15, 12:27 PM

Quote from: Spudda028 on 2011-May-15, 12:20  PM

Hey mono any reason it took till almost midday to post? Big day / night I take it? Bit of a Sunday morning sleep in?

All of the above spudda.  :biggrin:

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Post by: Spudda028 on 2011-May-15, 12:28 PM

Expected nothing less. Nice!

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Post by: monologue on 2011-May-15, 12:30 PM

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Post by: vadim on 2011-May-15, 12:35 PM

Quote from: monologue on 2011-May-15, 12:30  PM

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Thanks Mono.

I just wanted all and sundry to know that I don't need a SLR.

I took a series of 6 photos on my I-phone and then used the app Panorama to stitch them all together to get what Mono has posted.

An amazing bit of software - only takes seconds to "stitch" the photos.

Don't know about the quality of the forum post but it has printed out perfectly on an A3 at home in colour.

Eat your heart out Norton

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-May-15, 12:39 PM

No worries vadim ,happy to post it.  emthup

Cameras have come a long way since the Box Brownie.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-15, 12:46 PM

Quote from: monologue on 2011-May-15, 12:39  PM

Cameras have come a long way since the Box Brownie.

Norton tried to tell me that, but I dismissed it. :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-May-15, 12:55 PM

Good photo Vadim.  I didn't want to infringe on this thread but posted a enlarged version on my blog thread.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-May-15, 01:02 PM

Thanks Gratog - someday I might spend a bit of time and learn how to do these things.

Cheers

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-May-15, 01:02 PM

Am I wrong in thinking that many years back that cameras were not allowed at the track except by journos?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-15, 01:04 PM

Yes.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-15, 03:02 PM

Well, little Mr Perfect needed help eh. 

Wait til i learn how to use mine and you will show some respect.

DD, I wasn't going to criticise your underexposure but will now. :rolleyes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-May-15, 03:09 PM

dd I have my copy of the racebook from yesterday and must say it's quite impressive.

Will the racebooks be of the same format during the rest of the carnival?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-15, 03:17 PM

mono, yes the plan is to keep up that quality of paper, print, etc.

The printing is readable for old people. :unsu

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-15, 03:19 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-May-15, 03:02  PM

Wait til i learn how to use mine and you will show some respect.

DD, I wasn't going to criticise your underexposure but will now. :rolleyes:

Norton, well may you criticise my exposure....but, the day you understand depth of field is the day I'll.... :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2011-May-15, 03:42 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-May-15, 03:17  PM

The printing is readable for old people. :unsu

As it is for punters, has any thought been given to make it not only readable but also edible?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-May-15, 03:50 PM

Quote from: JWesleyHarding on 2011-May-15, 03:42  PM

As it is for punters, has any thought been given to make it not only readable but also edible?

My calander is edible .  I often resort to eating  the dates off my calender when I am in the poor house due to my punting :tears:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-May-15, 04:56 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-May-14, 05:34  PM

You would have been welcome in vadim's tent.  You certainly were a point of discussion.  A few Forumites were there.

Nothing but glowing references I hope   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-15, 06:54 PM

Get real.  But I do now have your Credit Card details and password.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Garduen on 2011-May-15, 08:39 PM

Quote from: Norton on 2011-May-15, 06:54  PM

Get real. 

Figured as much

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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-16, 01:27 PM

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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-18, 08:24 AM

The BRC management team will be pleased to read the comments regarding Saturday's blockbuster on letsgohorseracing.com.au.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-18, 11:30 AM

Personally, I thought the beer was too cold, the pies were too hot and the grass was too green. 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-May-18, 12:08 PM

I found something wrong :)

Can anyone tell me why we can't get fixed odds through the TAB at the BRC? :sad:

The other TAB tracks have it available.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-18, 03:46 PM

I'd check with BRC, vadim.

Just as a guess, UNiTAB don't permit it.

Would be a bonus, for sure.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-May-18, 07:02 PM

Quote from: vadim on 2011-May-18, 12:08  PM

I found something wrong :)

Can anyone tell me why we can't get fixed odds through the TAB at the BRC? :sad:

The other TAB tracks have it available.

Apparently Tabcorp have the contract to supply the oncourse Totes at BRC tracks.

The cost of software to enable them to provide Unitab Fixed odds is prohibitive I am told.

Why Tabcorp have the contract I don't know  :chin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-May-18, 07:53 PM

Quote from: DJH on 2011-May-18, 07:02  PM

Apparently Tabcorp have the contract to supply the oncourse Totes at BRC tracks.

The cost of software to enable them to provide Unitab Fixed odds is prohibitive I am told.

Why Tabcorp have the contract I don't know  :chin:

 :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-18, 07:59 PM

One can only surmise that TABCORP have the contract because they won the tender. :unsu

And it might have been a carryover from QTC days.  At the merger, existing contracts were taken up by BRC.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-May-18, 08:01 PM

Vadim
I am not sure if I have worded that properly, but that was the line I was told.

Tabcorp provide the operating systems on BRC tracks, but not on the other SE Qld tracks

A logical person would have just assumed that Unitab ran all Unitab outlets, but apparently that is not the case

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-May-18, 08:06 PM

I can understand the contractual obligations but one would hope that it is not for too long. The fixed odds market is a popular form of betting nowadays and we can't afford to be without it at our premier events.

It might be all some of our younger punting public will understand.

Alright for some of us with an I-phone :)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-May-18, 08:08 PM

As a further thought does that mean we can take a First 4 for $100.00 not $98.20/ Nooooooooooooooooooo!

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-May-19, 08:53 AM

If Tabcorp is running the totes in Brissy, what pools are we betting into  :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Norton on 2011-May-19, 09:39 AM

UniTab is the betting link, Tabcorp just has the infrastructure contract.  Has been so for some years.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-May-19, 09:42 AM

Obviously Legislation stops others tabs from offering a tote service in different states ?

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Post by: motorboater on 2011-May-22, 12:06 PM

Massive bouquet to the BRC for the job they've done with Doomben  :clap2:

Got to check out all the new ring and 'the lookout' for the first time yesterday (had a wedding last week  :mad:).  They've done a fantastic job with the place, you nearly wouldn't recognise the joint from 2 years ago.  Some of the initiatives they have for the carnival are a promising step forward as well.  Loved the assortment of food on offer from gourmet seafood platters, canapés and a good old $2 sausage sizzle for the more budget conscious, as well as a variety of nooks and crannies that would just about cater for everyone.

They're moving in the right direction  :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-22, 04:58 PM

boater,

Did you get to see the new Lookout Bar?  Nice venue.

We're gonna have Apache Cat there next week to lead the 10,000 field out.   emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-May-22, 05:35 PM

Food is not that good when I go down there midweek but their fish and chips do past the taste test.

  Best part about midweek is you have no trouble finding a seat to eat your meal  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: motorboater on 2011-May-22, 06:09 PM

Personally I've never been too impressed with the grub they normally serve up - I think it's quite expensive for what you get.  However, yesterdays spread was fantastic.  Obviously the variety is something feasible only on big days, though I'd love to see the cheap sausage sizzle continued.  Even a voucher included within the entry fee may get a few more through the door  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Spudda028 on 2011-May-25, 06:28 PM

Reading through the email for Saturdays 10,000. Can someone explain this to me please:

Dress Code Structured Racewear
 
WTF?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-30, 08:00 AM

Quote from: Spudda028 on 2011-May-25, 06:28  PM

Reading through the email for Saturdays 10,000. Can someone explain this to me please:

Dress Code Structured Racewear
 
WTF?

It probably means....  shoes,  no shorts ,dress, or skirt and top, handbag or purse , gloves optional,  hat or fascinator..................yore not eligible spudda unless you cross over.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-30, 08:06 AM

Obi reported that Anna the Unbelievable was a late scratching from the presentation dias ........now she can add  Unreliable to her CV. :shutup:

Lew Edwards turned up at Rocklea in it's hey day to open the Artie Belford Complex and Sally Ann Atkinson came when invited. :clap2:

One year they held up the race for Russ Hinze but when the big slob didn't show the race was started without him. >:(

Pretty poor to accept an invitation and not turn up. :thumbsd:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-30, 11:15 AM

Also in this morning's C-M, Obie is strong on the fact that Doomben WILL NOT be sold to fund the Eagle Farm redevelopment.

That IS good news.

 :clap2:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Jun-02, 07:39 PM

Big   :thumbsup: to the new setup at Doomben.
Very impressed.

Big  :thumbsd: to the new racebooks.
Very poor

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Jun-02, 08:19 PM

I heard the racebooks were OK.  I'm just dirty I forgot to get someone to get me one for a keepsake. :sad:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Jun-02, 08:26 PM

Quote from: gratlog on 2011-Jun-02, 08:19  PM

I heard the racebooks were OK.  I'm just dirty I forgot to get someone to get me one for a keepsake. :sad:

I will get you one next week if you like.

I doubt I will be buying them for myself anymore. I may have to get best bets, God forbid

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Jun-02, 08:35 PM

Quote from: DJH on 2011-Jun-02, 08:26  PM

I will get you one next week if you like.

I doubt I will be buying them for myself anymore. I may have to get best bets, God forbid

Thanks for the offer mate, but it is OK.  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jun-04, 08:39 PM

Good news that all facilities at Eagle Farm were back operational today after 4 months' closure to allow fire safety installations.

When I walked onto the course today I had no idea whether I'd win or lose, but I was at least confident I wouldn't get burnt. :sweat:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Jun-04, 08:44 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Jun-04, 08:39  PM

Good news that all facilities at Eagle Farm were back operational today after 4 months' closure to allow fire safety installations.

When I walked onto the course today I had no idea whether I'd win or lose, but I was at least confident I wouldn't get burnt. :sweat:

Not betting with the on course bookies?

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Post by: vadim on 2011-Jun-04, 09:37 PM

Quote from: DJH on 2011-Jun-04, 08:44  PM

Not betting with the on course bookies?

One of the best  :biggrin:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Jun-05, 05:52 AM

Wasn't there a debate on one of the forums sometime back about the race clubs not wanting to release crowd numbers?

   I notice they do it now.

Wonder why the change?

Not that important but only came to mind when I heard the 9000 figure yesterday.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jun-05, 11:51 AM

gratlog, it was more that those who need to know crowd numbers, will know.  If ya go to the races, ya know.  If ya don't go, well do ya really need to know?  :chin:

Race clubs have no obligation to provided information that could be used by detractors - and we know there are plenty of them around. emthdown

When there's a positive to come from the exercise, such as good numbers on the Carnival days, we shouldn't be surprised that clubs release figures.

And, of course, we'd hope figures released are correct.  At one racecourse they count them when they come in, then count them again when they come back in after the last for the music show.  The numbers are certainly impressive when ya do that.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Jun-05, 11:59 AM

Thanks.  Just curious.

This day and age it probably doesn't matter what the crowds are.

I'm amused sometime when I come down there mid week as to how many are there.  I don't check the bars out but I reckon there were no more than 30 there one day.

And I like it like that  :biggrin:

That isn't counting the workers of course.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jun-05, 12:03 PM

Well, it does matter...while clubs are providing the facilities where horses train and race.

The crowds will come back when we turn off the internet, and Sky, and bring back the trams, and take away our cars, and re-open the Flat, and start up the Pink Sports, and put a pie-cart outside the track, etc.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Jun-05, 12:08 PM

I used to sweat on the last race Tele being delivered sometimes  :biggrin:

When I was a postie out of Clayfield and Albion Park was a mid week venue I used to have to get off my bike when cutting through the track as the crowd was so big.

   Usually stopped at a bookie to have a bet on the way thru.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-16, 10:03 AM

Seeing a report in the SM that there was a little bit of a catfight over the Fashions winner on Stradbroke day,it being contended that the well dressed winner is a serial FOTF contestant from NSW flying all over to enter and win.......... putting some noses out of joint,I thought I would check the BRC website to see how the competition shaped up............ :stop:

Alas the BRC website is devoid of any pictorial record of this annual must see event.........click on What's Happening........Fashions  Picture Gallery ...plenty of pics from before but nothing on the BIG day.

http://www.brc.com.au/

There was another stoush a few years ago when another fashionista was barred ..........but managed to ring in her daughter who won escaping the pre race check by the fashion stewards.....but has since been banned from QLD anyway. :o

 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: motorboater on 2011-Jun-16, 10:43 AM

It's not as uncommon as you think.  Plenty of girls follow the fashions event around the metro carnivals to try and snag a win.  It's quite competitive.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-18, 06:40 PM

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Top filly was the caption

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Jun-18, 07:33 PM

She needs a nose job

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: goodwoman on 2011-Jun-18, 07:52 PM

And what do you need DJH??       :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Jun-18, 07:58 PM

The list is too long GW   :lol:

The reason I posted that, was that she is an attention whore who goes out of her way to do things so that others think she is the most physically beautiful person.
I don't like those people!
It was my pathetic attempt at bringing her back to reality, despite the fact I am sure she doesn't read this

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: chuggers on 2011-Jun-18, 09:48 PM

Arsenal,

I was there as you know. I was a little late in the putting in my vote--cause I had other people to meet/places to go/show the appearance  etc...but IMHO..she was not the winning vote. I look at other angles of fashion which might be more suited to the country class of gal. Mind you, I was impressed with Ms. Gale--but with her in the stillettos---next to me---lets say I'd be better known as a jockey---I heard it was a locked vote--and they wanted other votes such as mine---but the trumpets called for the start of the race---and as duty calls--off to the mounting yard---I have things to do.

So, I felt more comfortable in having a lengthy conversation with Darby Mccarthy--now as much as I like the ladies--he is a very informative and  a likeable person to talk to.

I'll try to have a more personable input next year   :icecream: :love:

 :beer:



 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: goodwoman on 2011-Jun-19, 05:39 AM

Quote from: DJH on 2011-Jun-18, 07:58  PM

The list is too long GW     :lol:   

  :lol:     Cappish DJH.........................................cappish!     :lol:     Now I understand!

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Jun-21, 08:33 PM

ARE BRC DEMANDS THREATENING THE FUTURE OF TATTERSALLS’ MEETINGS?

‘ARE you aware that one of the major meetings of the winter carnival is under threat because of unacceptable demands from the newly-merged Brisbane Racing Club?

Apparently the contract that Tattersall’s has to race at Eagle Farm is up for renewal in March next year and the BRC are trying to slug that club an increased amount to run their four meetings each year. It would be impossible financially for that club to continue under the arrangement being sought.

There are some high profile identities at Tattersall’s who believe they are being held to ransom by the BRC when you consider the huge five figure amount the BRC is asking for them to pay each time they race at Eagle Farm.

Under the new merged arrangement it is not as though Tattersall’s could threaten to move their meetings to Doomben as has happened in the past.

And Racing Queensland cannot do a thing about it. It would seem that the BRC would prefer to snatch from Tattersall’s the more profitable days – especially during the winter carnival.

Much tradition would be lost if that happens but it again highlights the need for the control body (RQL) and not the clubs to run racing, which unfortunately will all change if we have a new LNP Government in control.’ – As I am closely associated with Tattersall’s Race Club I would ask that my identity be with-held.

EDITOR’S NOTE: We suspect that the Brisbane Racing Club heavyweights are winding down after their busiest period of the winter carnival which meant we haven’t been able to secure a response to this e-mail. But we hope to have one for use next week.

Courtesy of Letsgohorseracing

Look forward to the response

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Jun-21, 08:37 PM

I reckon Ipswich would be happy to take on the Tattersals days  :bulb:

They would probably get a bigger crowd than the BRC also

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jun-21, 09:15 PM

Yeah, I s'pose the Tatts members could pick up a bus in Edward Street and head south-west.  Would be a day to remember, for sure.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Jun-21, 09:25 PM

I reckon the Jets Club would even put on a good spread for the Tatts guys after the last   :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Jun-21, 09:48 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Jun-21, 09:15  PM

Yeah, I s'pose the Tatts members could pick up a bus in Edward Street and head south-west.  Would be a day to remember, for sure.

 :what:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jun-21, 09:50 PM

What's the issue, vadim?  DJH suggesting Tatt's days at Ipswich.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Jun-22, 08:33 AM

No. Probably the fact that the BRC are arguing with one of our most prominent partners. Bit like knocking back a luncheon for 450 people :no:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Jun-22, 09:15 PM

The BRC response.

AND the Brisbane Racing Club responded angrily to last week’s e-mail suggesting that they were trying to force Tattersall’s out and take over that club’s more profitable meetings:

‘THE comments are faceless, one-sided, ignorant and malicious.

It is the incorrect and uninformed views displayed by the sender of the e-mail that are most hampering negotiations with Tattersall’s.

In those circumstances, the e-mail does not warrant a response.

If the ‘high profile identities’ wish to identify themselves, we are prepared to discuss their concerns with them directly.’ – Stephen Ferguson, CEO Brisbane Racing Club.

EDITOR’S NOTE: I have been back to the original e-mail correspondent, who is closely associated with Tattersall’s and he stands by his comments. He declined the offer from the BRC to discuss his concerns with them directly, believing that would be a waste of time.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-27, 10:51 PM

I think the RED CARD should go to RISA and the dumb clucks at the BRC who signed off on the new style racebook....the most overpriced piece of rubbish ever released on the gullible public at the exorbitant price of $8.   :thumbsd:

Bigger and more unwieldy than the normal racebook with lots of full page colour advertisements which should have kept the cost down unless they were freebies.

To start with the weights weren't shown on the form page ,you needed  a magnifying glass  to read the small print on the preview pages where they did remember to include weights, colour was overdone,there was no form for Adelaide or Rockhampton or for the other meetings Townsville and Belmont which didn't' worry me but Gold Coast form wasn't included at a previous meeting when it always was in the old style book at a more affordable price of $5.

I've always bought a racebook at every meeting I've ever been to.....but that's it for me NO More.   :stop:
 
 

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: goodwoman on 2011-Jun-28, 09:01 AM

Can view it on the GCTC website late Thursdays or early Fridays every week mate      emthup   

This may or may not help you!        

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-28, 06:40 PM

It doesn't suit me to home print the racebook........QRL has the facility also........I liked the old style book and $5 was about right imo.

I'll get used to not buying one........although old habits die hard. :tears:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Jun-28, 07:45 PM

Arsenal are you sure that the racebook that has been in use  over the carnival was'nt just a "carnival only " style racebook?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: The Baker on 2011-Jun-29, 07:06 AM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-27, 10:51  PM

I think the RED CARD should go to RISA and the dumb clucks at the BRC who signed off on the new style racebook....the most overpriced piece of rubbish ever released on the gullible public at the exorbitant price of $8.   :thumbsd:

Bigger and more unwieldy than the normal racebook with lots of full page colour advertisements which should have kept the cost down unless they were freebies.

To start with the weights weren't shown on the form page ,you needed  a magnifying glass  to read the small print on the preview pages where they did remember to include weights, colour was overdone,there was no form for Adelaide or Rockhampton or for the other meetings Townsville and Belmont which didn't' worry me but Gold Coast form wasn't included at a previous meeting when it always was in the old style book at a more affordable price of $5.

I've always bought a racebook at every meeting I've ever been to.....but that's it for me NO More.   :stop:
 
 

Yes Arsy

You can see that these racebooks were designed and overviewed by people that have got very little idea when it comes to the most important person in racing - the punter.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-29, 07:34 PM

Quote from: monologue on 2011-Jun-28, 07:45  PM

Arsenal are you sure that the racebook that has been in use  over the carnival was'nt just a "carnival only " style racebook?

You could be right Mono ... I did read they'll be $6 after the WC....hopefully in the old style....$5 is acceptable.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-01, 11:39 AM

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Post by: chuggers on 2011-Jul-01, 05:30 PM

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 :beer:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-06, 10:12 PM

Saturday at EF is a bmag family day only $5 admission one coupon allows 4 to enter...kids are free and drinks chips & pies are $1...(the ones left over from last year)..........just joking.  :lol:

Haven't seen the Cup field yet but there must be a smokey as the mag writes these (the main races)  are often an excellent indicator for the Melb spring racing Carnival. :o

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-08, 05:15 PM

BRC celebrates its SECOND BIRTHDAY tomorra.

I'm going along to have some of the cake.

 :no1:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-08, 08:56 PM

From letsgohorseracing.com.au

CHAIRMAN RESPONDS TO INQUIRIES CONCERNING BRC MASTER PLAN

IT has been brought to my attention that your website recently published an article under the heading “Has The Major Racecourse Development Project Hit a Hurdle”, which included an e-mail requesting information regarding the status of our master planning project, as well as an Editor's comment which addresses a number of the concerns. I understand that you invited a response from the BRC.

The BRC Board understands the impatience and frustrations of the many passionate race-goers and fans in Brisbane regarding getting on with major improvements to our metropolitan facilities. We share the desire to move forward as quickly as is possible. As such, the BRC would be pleased, if you have space, if you could publish this letter as a way of attempting to satisfy the desire for information.

Firstly, let me point out that we do regularly update the BRC members through our newsletter. However, I recognise that many of your readers and contributors would not be BRC members. In addition we have provided, throughout the project, detailed status updates to Racing Queensland Limited. At the time of our project application we delivered to RQL a full, printed copy of our complete application for their review.

The good news is that the project remains on target in terms of both timescale and financial feasibility. The bad news is that the process involved in this project is much longer and more time and effort consuming than any of us would prefer.

Your website commentary made reference to a number of issues/comments made by Brisbane City Council regarding our application. The 12 or so points you published are correct, and are a subset of a greater set of over 100 such areas requiring further work. None of these appear unreasonable requests. As you point out in your commentary, this is not unusual in these large projects. To put this in perspective the master plan application contains over 2000 pages of detailed engineering and planning documentation. The proposed development is a complex mixture of Residential, Commercial and Retail areas, as well as sporting, community and recreational facilities. It has been developed by a leading group of consultants extending across many disciplines including transport, environment, heritage, urban planning and many more.

The BCC has the task of protecting the community both present and future and to ensure that developments of this type meet the high standards they set, and to ensure they will be of value to the community. It is up to us to do the work necessary to satisfy the BCC that our proposals are appropriate. We are currently at a stage of the process where the BCC have now had a first review of our plans and have, as is their charter, questioned us in regard to a number of areas in which we are yet to satisfy them of the need or benefit of our approach. This should not be interpreted as a road block. It is now up to us to do extra work. At the end of the day, if our proposals, reasons and analysis stack up, the BCC will agree with our suggestion, if they don’t, then we need to modify our plans so that they do.

It should be mentioned though, that as well as raising a number of areas of issue, the BCC has also advised us of a number of modifications they consider appropriate that would enhance our project and deliver greater results than we had thought possible. We have adopted many of these suggestions, and they go a long way to mitigating those areas in which we have had to lessen our plans.

Alongside this application process is the neighbourhood planning process, which has now developed a draft neighbourhood plan. The process from here is to work with the BCC and our consultants to bring the neighbourhood plan, our application and the BCC review considerations together in the best way for community and delivering the highest value outcome for the BRC.

However, we know that really what your readers are asking is “how does this look at present”?

Of course at this stage of the project, it is impossible to give any firm financial projections since the final look of the project is unknown until the process completes. However, we offer the following overall observations.

The original master plan concept contemplated around 230,000 sq metres of development. If we are unable to convince the BCC in any of the remaining areas of discussion, and we adopt the current draft Neighbour Plan with no further modifications, then we would have approval for approx. 189,000 sq metres of development. The financial return will be affected by the final distribution of mix of use and yield. However, at this time, the usage mix is roughly equivalent to the original concept. Therefore simple maths would indicate that with no further gain, we are on track to deliver over 80% of our original plan. We expect this will get closer as we do further work and the BCC provides further guidance and suggestion.

We are a long way forward from where we started – with a concept and no approval for development at all. The naysayers at that time said we would not be permitted to do any development, they now say we are underperforming. Unfortunately, the politics of this industry means that there are some who are or barracking (or wishing) for us to fail.  All I can offer is that we believe the progress speaks for itself.

In regard to “feasibility” of the project, I do not understand the negative comments here. We should remember the intent of the project. This project is being undertaken to deliver funds necessary to upgrade our racing facilities, as well as to allow us to invest in the future of this great industry and guarantee our viability into the future. We have visions of delivering value in excess of $250 million, and some concept ideas of how best to use that value. If we can only deliver 80% to 90% of this amount, and therefore need to adjust our planned use of these funds to match, this clearly does not make the project less feasible. In the absence of any other source of multi millions of dollars this remains our most exciting and critical of undertakings. We take great confidence in that what now presents as the least possible outcome would be a fantastic result for racing, adding hundreds of millions of dollars in value.

I am sure your readers appreciate that details published in this fairly public way need to remain at a reasonably high level. However, I do hope that this letter has helped in understanding the status of the project, and helps others to share our excitement at the promise this project continues to provide.


KEVIN DIXON, BRC CHAIRMAN.   

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: flyman on 2011-Jul-08, 10:40 PM

The spin doctors at QR seems like they have found new jobs at the QTC sorry BRC

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-09, 09:43 AM

It's a Masterpiece imo......Well Done PR person & KD :no1:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Jul-09, 09:52 AM

Quote from: flyman on 2011-Jul-08, 10:40  PM

The spin doctors at QR seems like they have found new jobs at the QTC sorry BRC

  emthup

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-09, 10:15 AM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-09, 09:43  AM

It's a Masterpiece imo......Well Done PR person & KD :no1:

As Kevin Dixon wrote:

Unfortunately, the politics of this industry means that there are some who are or barracking (or wishing) for us to fail.

One thing that irks these people is that BRC gets things done.  How's the grand plans from down Deagon way going?  Any word?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-11, 05:16 PM

I'm sending some suggestions to Darren Condon about the Racebook ....it's no bloody good the way it is....why they changed from the old format  is a mystery.
The current book is way too large and unweildy......... should go back to how it was.
The horse Name and Number is in bold type but the barrier.  jockey and trainer are not and are harder to see where they are ..........while they stood out in the old format.
Using alternative line shadings on the fields in the pre race page makes it more difficult to see and it's superfluous imo and the jockey silks in greyscale are a waste of ink.
And including comments on each runner isn't necessary imo.
Still no form for the ancilliary meetings Gold Coast is the most obvious omission it was always in the old book as was Adelaide not in the current one.
It's noticeable that very few patrons stop at the Racebook Kiosk as they enter the course so they either won't pay the $6 price or don't need a book.
I realise it's likely that racebooks wouldn't make a profit or even cover costs and if the regular clients drop off due to dissatisfaction the loss will be greater.  

Email sent. :thumbsup:

Received an out of office reply ....he's on hols till 26 July. :tears:

Be a nice surprise when he resumes work fresh and ready to get stuck into it.  :lol:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: monologue on 2011-Jul-11, 07:58 PM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-11, 05:16  PM

I'm sending some suggestions to Darren Condon about the Racebook ....it's no bloody good the way it is....why they changed from the old format  is a mystery.
The current book is way too large and unweildy......... should go back to how it was.
The horse Name and Number is in bold type but the barrier.  jockey and trainer are not and are harder to see where they are ..........while they stood out in the old format.
Using alternative line shadings on the fields in the pre race page makes it more difficult to see and it's superfluous imo and the jockey silks in greyscale are a waste of ink.
And including comments on each runner isn't necessary imo.
Still no form for the ancilliary meetings Gold Coast is the most obvious omission it was always in the old book as was Adelaide not in the current one.
It's noticeable that very few patrons stop at the Racebook Kiosk as they enter the course so they either won't pay the $6 price or don't need a book.
I realise it's likely that racebooks wouldn't make a profit or even cover costs and if the regular clients drop off due to dissatisfaction the loss will be greater.  

Email sent. :thumbsup:

Received an out of office reply ....he's on hols till 26 July. :tears:

Be a nice surprise when he resumes work fresh and ready to get stuck into it.   :lol:  


funny that he is again on holiday...I received similar response to an email I sent off recently. :embarrassed:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-11, 08:19 PM

Arsenal, I'd send such items to admin@brc.com.au rather than a particular desk. :bulb:

BRC staff do have holidays, BTW, as per standard industry guidelines. :yes:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-29, 12:09 PM

A bit of prime real estate owned by Brisbane Racing Club is set to be auctioned next month.

http://www.harcourts.com.au/Property/View/QAS4599/Hendra-60-Gordon-Street

Great potential for someone who would like to spend their life looking down the back straight at Eagle Farm. :love:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-29, 03:50 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-29, 12:09  PM

A bit of prime real estate owned by Brisbane Racing Club is set to be auctioned next month.

http://www.harcourts.com.au/Property/View/QAS4599/Hendra-60-Gordon-Street

Great potential for someone who would like to spend their life looking down the back straight at Eagle Farm. :love:

Wonder what'll it bring .........limited use I suppose...........any thoughts from RE speculators?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-29, 09:15 PM

Looking around, nearby blocks have bought $800k and more.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Ascot on 2011-Jul-30, 08:27 AM

Why sell.  The NEW RQL will be looking for digs soon.  Racing Victoria resides at the top of the Flemington Straight, why not Racing Qld at the top of the EF straight.  Charge them rent though.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-30, 08:37 AM

Quote from: Ascot on 2011-Jul-30, 08:27  AM

Why sell.  The NEW RQL will be looking for digs soon.  Racing Victoria resides at the top of the Flemington Straight, why not Racing Qld at the top of the EF straight.  Charge them rent though.

RQ might try and buy it  :o

Try and buy E.F. one bit at a time  :sweat:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-08, 09:18 PM

From today's C-M:

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Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: gratlog on 2011-Aug-09, 09:41 AM

Does Mary Collier still have some influence?

I'm told she sulks a bit at 4BC when she doesn't get her own way but I still don't mind listening to her show in the morning.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-22, 07:00 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-29, 12:09  PM

A bit of prime real estate owned by Brisbane Racing Club is set to be auctioned next month.

http://www.harcourts.com.au/Property/View/QAS4599/Hendra-60-Gordon-Street

Great potential for someone who would like to spend their life looking down the back straight at Eagle Farm. :love:

The property was auctioned on Saturday afternoon and passed in at $700,000.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Aug-23, 08:18 PM

Far be it for me to complain.....I'm still waiting patiently for the BRC to respond to my complaint about the new style racebooks. :o

It's been about one month ......maybe I should have complained to Bob he seems to respond more promptly. :shutup:

I notice on Sunday on the Retro show that Duff's book is more like the style I'm advocating we revert to. :thumbsup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: D-G on 2011-Aug-23, 08:55 PM

It is very hard to work out how the club can justify the new books?

Less information, ie less meetings, yet they charge more?

I would be interested to know if the owner of the new publishing company is the former Qld Rugby Union player?

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-24, 10:40 AM

Quote from: Arsenal on 2011-Aug-23, 08:18  PM

Far be it for me to complain.....I'm still waiting patiently for the BRC to respond to my complaint about the new style racebooks. :o

It's been about one month ......maybe I should have complained to Bob he seems to respond more promptly. :shutup:

I notice on Sunday on the Retro show that Duff's book is more like the style I'm advocating we revert to. :thumbsup:

Arsenal, I would re-send the email - if that's what carried your original "complaint" - to admin@brc.com.au

Yes, Bob could fix the problem of racebooks.  Direct to BRC the money they're entited to from on-course totes, and books could then be sold at a bigger loss than they are now.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Aug-25, 03:22 PM

I've taken your advice dubbles..........took the liberty of telling them that I re-sent my original complaint  acting on the advice of a well known BRC executive. :thumbsup:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-25, 04:19 PM

Have I ever given you bad advice, Arsenal? - since last Saturday. :shy:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-25, 04:21 PM

From letsgohorseracing.com.au

BENTLEY CLAIMS OFFER TO PURCHASE DOOMEN WAS OUTLINED IN DETAIL

‘I note the comments of your readers and in particular, Kevin Dixon of the Brisbane Racing Club and the guarantee given to the Brisbane Turf Club members at the time of amalgamation.

The offer to purchase Doomben was outlined in some detail in my original e-mail published on your web site.  The detail is correct, it is not “a little bit loose with the truth” as Kevin Dixon would like all and sundry to believe the proposal was branded “unity” and had a documented agenda.

The purchase by Queensland Racing Limited of Doomben and Queensland Racing’s plans made commercial sense and to date nothing has come forward to dispute that if enacted, the end result would have been of greater benefit to the racing industry.

Queensland Racing did not proceed as the issue of control was a deal breaker. The control and ownership issue obviously was too difficult for some to contemplate, rendering the planned purchase inoperable.

The eventual control and ownership of the Doomben and Eagle Farm estate will be interesting as the multi million dollar  development partnership with Watpac Ltd unfolds. The Queensland Racing ownership of Doomben may well prove, in time, to have been the best outcome for the industry and Brisbane Racing Club members alike.

The Queensland Racing proposition for Doomben gave members an undertaking that Doomben would remain a racing and training venue for 99 years. This would have satisfied any concerns, even those of Bill Carter.

For the reader who disputed the value of Doomben, the value currently is $38 million, being the value as a racetrack and after all this is what Queensland Racing guaranteed the use for 99 years.’ – Bob Bentley, Chairman, RQL.

EDITOR’S NOTE: We offered the BRC an opportunity to respond but they declined. Reading between the lines though one gets the impression there are some at the BRC who believe Bob Bentley was being a shade mischievous in his reference to Watpac.  

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-Aug-25, 05:32 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-25, 04:21  PM

The Queensland Racing proposition for Doomben gave members an undertaking that Doomben would remain a racing and training venue for 99 years

I wonder if that was the same undertaking, that Albion Park would not have been sold  :chin:

and the same undertaking that the Trainers at Deagon, would not have to move.

Ahh, that's right, it was under another entity, Queensland Racing, not Racing Queensland, so therefore undertaking was invalid  :o

Hang on, wasn't the offer to buy Doomben, also offered by the deceased QR, so therefore, the undertaking not to sell, would also have been invalid  :shrug:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: RAWHIDE on 2011-Aug-25, 06:20 PM

Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Aug-25, 05:32  PM

I wonder if that was the same undertaking, that Albion Park would not have been sold  :chin:

and the same undertaking that the Trainers at Deagon, would not have to move.

Ahh, that's right, it was under another entity, Queensland Racing, not Racing Queensland, so therefore undertaking was invalid  :o

Hang on, wasn't the offer to buy Doomben, also offered by the deceased QR, so therefore, the undertaking not to sell, would also have been invalid  :shrug:

Alzheimer's might be kicking in to Some of the deagon crew they are not getting any younger.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: motorboater on 2011-Aug-25, 09:09 PM

There he goes again... wasting more of the industries time and money responding to rumours, allegations and innuendo.

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: vadim on 2011-Aug-25, 09:50 PM

On a more positive note the Club put on a good show this evening in recognition of the local teams.   emthup

The LNP got a huge wrap inthe process  :)

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-26, 09:58 AM

Yes, was a big night at Eagle Farm last evening, for the inaugural BRC Racing Awards.

The Heathcote camp grabbed much of the spoils, along with Justin WOOD, Kelso WOOD, Mitch SPEERS, Priscilla SCHMIDT, and Chris MUNCE (who won the Ambassador Travel - Courier Mail medal).

Difficult to say who got the most applause.  Rob Heathcote, Chris Munce or Premier-in-Waiting Campbell Newman. :no1:

Title: The Brisbane Racing Club
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-26, 10:13 AM

Apologies for the quality of the image, but Justin WOOD's award was accepted from the lovely Ms Formica by his Proud Dad.

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Later in the evening, Proud Dad provided one of the highlights by dropping the trophy. :rolleyes:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-26, 10:48 AM

A big day at the Doomben Polo Field on September 25.

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Post by: proud_dad on 2011-Aug-26, 09:44 PM

thanks alot DD   :lol:  was a good night and was pleasing to see some other people recognized for their efforts in racing was very humbling for joe zoppi to recieve his award and very deserving for him bruce and david the guys behind the scenes  :no1: :no1: :no1:

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Post by: chuggers on 2011-Aug-26, 10:02 PM

Quote from: proud_dad on 2011-Aug-26, 09:44  PM

thanks alot DD    :lol:   was a good night and was pleasing to see some other people recognized for their efforts in racing was very humbling for joe zoppi to recieve his award and very deserving for him bruce and david the guys behind the scenes  :no1: :no1: :no1:

Proud Dad,


That is what it is---be very proud how you have raised you kids---you are a good fella.


 :beer:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-27, 07:13 AM

National Jockeys Day today.  A few of the local stars will be guests at the races.

The Club will be donating $1 of every entrance fee to the Fund that supports jockeys in tough times.

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Post by: gratlog on 2011-Aug-27, 08:14 AM

 I flicked over to George Negus on Ch10 last night to catch Gai Waterhouse commenting on the jockeys and how tough a game it is.  She more or less had no compassion for them when they got injured and said it was part of the game and they know the risks when they come into racing..  Anyone else see that?

I don't have it word for word but she come across aa a bitter old bitch. emthdown

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-Aug-27, 09:08 AM

It is a tough game Grats, but she is right,

Being a jockey is no more dangerous than being a track work rider, and they get paid a fraction of what jockeys do, and don't get any accolades, and when they get hurt, they don't get any where near the same support a jockey gets.

You give a jockey the option to quit race riding, and do something else, they wouldn't, because it is a highly paid job, and even with the risks, very few could earn any where near what they earn being a jockey.

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Post by: gratlog on 2011-Aug-27, 09:20 AM

They were saying that 80% barely earn more than the basic wage.  Would that be right?

I watched that interview with Rick Hore-Lacey the other night and he also reckons that the majority of trainers don't make much money out of the game.  BTW, that was a great interview.  Rick admitted he was on the bones of his arse at one stage and top of the world next.  :biggrin:

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Post by: Ascot on 2011-Aug-27, 11:25 AM

Trainers dissatisfaction with the jockey profession crosses many generations.  I can recall some of the greats like TJ and Bart being regularly underwhelmed by their services.  Past journos often remonstrated with me when I dared to criticise a trainer but let me say anything critical I wanted about a jockey. 

Not much has changed in the current era......Moody's hissy fit with Luke Nolan only last week a good example.  I think Gai's comment was fair and hardly makes her a "bitch" for expressing what many in her profession think.

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Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-Aug-27, 12:28 PM

Quote from: gratlog on 2011-Aug-27, 09:20  AM

They were saying that 80% barely earn more than the basic wage.  Would that be right?

Whats a basic wage Gratlog ?

If that is the case, I bet that 80% earn at least double that of any track work rider  :chin:

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Post by: gratlog on 2011-Aug-27, 12:41 PM

Not sure mate but that is just what they said on the TV last night.

I know what you mean about the small wages in the racing game.  I grew up hanging around racing people and there weren't too many rich ones among them.

Wonder why the track workers don't go and do something else.  Might have to have other jobs as well I suppose.

Wonder what % of trainers make a good living?

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Post by: proud_dad on 2011-Aug-27, 03:01 PM

track work rider can acctually make a descent wage riding for the right trainers and prepared to work most get paid between $10 to15 per horse not hard to knock over 12 a morning finished by 8am and the days ur own other riders can get jobs in the bigger stables on a set wage which in most cases is more than a general labourers wage for a 40 hr week and only have to work for 24hrs as far as the 80% of riders not earning a decent wage most supplement it by getting paid to ride work but then this restricts there race rides as the trainers feel they dont owe them anything

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Post by: gratlog on 2011-Aug-27, 03:06 PM

Ta for the info PD.

  emthup

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Post by: proud_dad on 2011-Aug-28, 11:08 AM

Quote from: gratlog on 2011-Aug-27, 03:06  PM

Ta for the info PD.

   emthup  

i was one of the 80%   :lol:

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Post by: monologue on 2011-Aug-29, 04:51 PM

9 races set down for Eagle Farm this Saturday.

Looks they they have added  the races washed out from last week.

A couple of notable omission's from the open handicap.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Aug-30, 08:55 AM

A month or so ago I sent an email to the BRC about the changed format of their racebook.
I have now received a reply  to my second email (resent on the advice of a well known BRC executive)  the  intended recipient was on holidays and didn't receive the original and whilst not completely satisfactory from my point of view it seems that the club has had some positive feedback on the new format and significant changes as sought by me appear unlikely although they are considering some of my suggestions.

Copies of the exchange follow.

"Dear Darren, I’ve been going to the races since I was a boy in short pants and have always bought a racebook when I had my own money.

I’m not happy with the new look racebook ...it’s too large and unwieldy and the old style format and size is much preferred .
These are the things that I think need to be considered:-

Go back to the old format.

The horse Name and Number is in bold type but the barrier, jockey and trainer are not and are harder to see where they are in small size type ..........while they stood out in the old format.

This is the most essential info for punters ...it needs to be visible at a glance.

Using alternative line shadings on the fields in the pre race page makes it more difficult to see and it's superfluous imo and the jockey silks in greyscale are a waste of ink.

That page could be eliminated to save paper and ink ......imo it serves no useful purpose.

Speed maps to me are  a guessing game whether they’re in or out doesn’t concern me.
 
And including comments on each runner isn't necessary imo.I haven’t checked the strike rate and make no criticism of the tipster as I haven’t read his comments.

There’s still no  detailed form for the ancilliary meetings........ Gold Coast is the most obvious omission it was always in the old book as was Adelaide, neither are in the current one.

They should both be included as the local newspapers don’t include form for these meetings and punters generally won’t bet without access to the form.It's noticeable that very few patrons stop at the Racebook Kiosk as they enter the course, so they either won't pay the $6 price or  feel they don't need a book.

I realise it's likely that racebooks wouldn't make a profit or even cover costs and if the regular clients drop off due to dissatisfaction with the product  the loss will be greater.

I trust you will consider these comments as constructive suggestions and implement them to restore customer satisfaction.

I look forward to your further consideration and reply.
Kind Regards,"

The BRC reply

"Thank you for your email regarding the new race books. We value our customers feedback very highly as it is the best tool for improving our customers experience which is paramount to a business like ours. I must also apologise for having not responded to your initial correspondence but for whatever reason I never received the email.

Firstly I must say that many of the points you make about the racebook are relevant and we will work to make some of these amendments to improve the readability of the book.  However I must advise that the current size, speed maps and comments will at this stage be continuing as we have had positive feedback from a number of people on these items. With regard to the Gold Coast and Adelaide form we have reviewed our holds on both these venues and the amount invested simply doesn’t warrant the additional expense that we were incurring from running the extended from for these venues.

I should also mention that we did some market research on the racebook on Stradbroke day and it got overwhelmingly positive response from members and public all rating it an eight out of ten.

Once again thank-you for the Feedback and my sincerest apologies for the delay in responding. If you would like to discuss the above further please feel free to give me a call.

Kind Regards"

I'll give him a ring later today and hear what he says.

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Post by: vadim on 2011-Aug-30, 09:08 AM

I have to agree with you Arsenal the printing of the "colours" in black & white is useless. It is OK to refer to the Stradbroke Day when the book was in full colour and a different look entirely.

I don't purchase the book now. I only get one when I have a horse starting to complete the record keeping.

The Cleveland Mafia would contest the comment re turnover on the Gold Coast and Adelaide. If it is in fact true then they would probably be the majority of the hold ;)

My main criticism is the size as I have always contained the book in a Club folder and within my jacket pocket. No hope with the current style.

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Post by: D-G on 2011-Aug-30, 09:29 AM

Everyone I have spoken to about the racebooks have had the same criticisms that Arsenal and Vadim point out.

The 'colours' in black and white is almost laughable.
The size is awkward
The price seems to vary between $5 and $8
The lack of Gold Coast in particular is ludicrous IMO- do they realise that many patrons at the metro track are likely to have an active interest in Gold Coast races? To say the turnover doesn't warrant it is extremely narrow minded thinking.

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Post by: D-G on 2011-Aug-30, 09:34 AM

I hadn't actually noticed the speed maps. It seems they are only in Saturdays, not the midweeks.
That may be why they charge $6 on Saturdays and $5 Wednesdays?
Somehow they can justify the speed maps, but not the Gold Coast races  :wacko:

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Post by: monologue on 2011-Aug-30, 09:50 AM

If the race book doesn't suit then purchase or print off the required info from the net.

Like vadim the only time I buy a racebook is if I have a runner in that day otherwise it's my trusty Best Bets.

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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-30, 12:09 PM

The fact that must not be overlooked is the race-books are different things to different people.  And the traditionalists among as should not think that just because we don't read/use something that's in a race-book that no one else does.   Personally, I couldn't give a hoot about speed maps, and tech ratings, etc.  But others do. :shrug:

I see no harm at all in the B&W jockey "colours" and in fact, I use them often during the running of a race.  It's not correct to say they serve no purpose.  They quickly show if the jackets are striped, and whether there are armbands, etc.  Way ahead of the written description of the colours.

Sales of racebooks on racecourse have been going south for years, and all clubs lose on them - except perhaps on big days.   We all know the reasons.  Most serious punters arrive at the track today armed with information printed at home.  Today's book is set up as a reference item for the social racegoer - who now outnumbers the regular punters, I expect.

Understand the views on the change in size.  As I approach the twilight of my racing years, I might be looking for a broad-sheet version real soon. :rolleyes:

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Post by: Ascot on 2011-Aug-30, 12:11 PM

Not to my liking either, but I suspect fellas that we are not in the demographic they seek to keep happy.  Fortunately the remarkable resources of the internet and iPad fulfills my needs, and then more.

I would like them to offer free WiFi on course, and race finishes and replays on the website but won't hold my breath for that one.

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Post by: gratlog on 2011-Aug-30, 12:39 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-30, 12:09  PM

I see no harm at all in the B&W jockey "colours" and in fact, I use them often during the running of a race.  It's not correct to say they serve no purpose.  They quickly show if the jackets are striped, and whether there are armbands, etc.  Way ahead of the written description of the colours.

Mate,If nothing else you are loyal to your cause.  :lol:   :lol:

I went down to a midweek meet not long back and was amazed to see a bloke with his computer thingo sitting in the bookie's area and putting his bets on the internet.

   Who would have ever predicted that being allowed?

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Post by: Ascot on 2011-Aug-30, 01:25 PM

You should see the setup at the Gold Coast Gratlog.

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Post by: gratlog on 2011-Aug-30, 02:17 PM

I'll have to make it down again soon to check it out

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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-30, 07:09 PM

Quote from: Ascot on 2011-Aug-30, 12:11  PM

I would like them to offer free WiFi on course.

Pay for ya own ya miserable bugger.  Next thing you'll want free phones, and a pre-paid taxi driven by Miss World.

If there was free WiFi who knows what sort of stuff you'd get up to. :chin:

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Post by: chuggers on 2011-Aug-30, 08:11 PM

Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-30, 07:09  PM

a pre-paid taxi driven by Miss World.

From what I know of Ascot--that has already happened--in a round about way    :lol:

 :beer:

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Post by: Ascot on 2011-Aug-30, 09:10 PM

I get WiFi at McDonalds.  And at major airports outside Australia.  C'mon old man get with it.  You know all those young Gen Y's expect it.

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Post by: Vintage on 2011-Aug-30, 09:14 PM

Can't you just limit the download DD?

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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Aug-30, 09:17 PM

Quote from: Ascot on 2011-Aug-30, 09:10  PM

I get WiFi at McDonalds.  And at major airports outside Australia.  C'mon old man get with it.  You know all those young Gen Y's expect it.

And how many Maccas have you been into that are the size of a racecourse?  and with as many customers?

Is WiFi available at football?  If not, why not?

vintage, with Ascot, it's what he'd send that is the worry, rather than what he'd download.

As I said, ya pay for ya own phone, why not pay ya own net fees.  I do.

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Post by: Ascot on 2011-Aug-31, 09:00 AM

Ahem.  Footy games have reliably consistent and profitable patronage,  and don't need inducements to get people into the place.  Put a game on, and they will come, and happily pay $7 for a beer,  $8 for a hot dog etc ..... not so with racetracks.  However try to use Safari at the footy and you will often get a no service message, i.e. even the user pays network is jammed with users.  The Gen Y's live on their devices. My lot even take them to Church!!!!  Catch a train to town and just observe behaviours.....they just sit, and read and type non stop. 

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