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Offline Norton

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O.P. « 2014-Sep-09, 05:53 PM »
One of the great racetracks in the world and the flagship of the Queensland Thoroughbred Racing Industry is about to undergo a massive upgrade.  The bulldozers will begin to lift away the turf late September 2014 as the engineers begin digging tunnels, paving new roads to the infield, construct a new infield stabling complex, and then reconstruct the course proper with a few changes in terrain.   This thread is intended to celebrate the past, investigate the current and track the new works to completion.



This is how the place looked Tuesday 9 Sept 2014.


Up close, the wear is obvious, when compared to the less used parts further from the rail.
 

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« 2014-Sep-09, 06:04 PM Reply #1 »
i guess it must be hard to grow grass in your climate   :chin:

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« 2014-Sep-09, 06:10 PM Reply #2 »
ya could put in a cushion track i guess   :shutup:

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« 2014-Sep-09, 10:07 PM Reply #3 »
i guess it must be hard to grow grass in your climate   :chin:

Rats - you left off the  :p for the sarcasm  ;)

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« 2014-Sep-10, 09:43 AM Reply #4 »
sorry gin  all fixed now    emthup

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« 2014-Sep-10, 09:46 AM Reply #5 »
sorry gin  all fixed now     emthup  

I expected better.  Maybe just an off day for our closet maroon.  :dry:

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« 2014-Sep-10, 05:16 PM Reply #6 »
The EF course is 2021M in circumference just a metre or three shy of 2000M.  The tightest turn is a semi circle from the winning post to the 1600.  The turn commences immediately after the winning post.

Looking east back toward the post and the home straight.



And north west to the 1800M

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« 2014-Sep-10, 05:29 PM Reply #7 »
Norton do you know if they are rolling the turf up or just digging it up?

Seems to be money wasted if they're are just digging it up and binning it.

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« 2014-Sep-10, 06:23 PM Reply #8 »
Mono, I think the plan is to cut it like the turf farms do in strips, roll it and lay as much as they can on DD's farm.

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« 2014-Sep-10, 06:45 PM Reply #9 »
Mono, I think the plan is to cut it like the turf farms do in strips, roll it and lay as much as they can on DD's farm.

DD has a farm with a tent on it on riverfront property......yes I think he has ownership of the grass until relaying....makes sense....need to stay local.....

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« 2014-Sep-10, 07:39 PM Reply #10 »
Let's hope they can use it elsewhere.
Shame to waste a opportunity.

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« 2014-Sep-11, 07:05 AM Reply #11 »
This is the 1800M point.  There is a crossing here to access the training tracks and infield.  2015 access will be via tunnels.   



Looking back towards the stands and home straight you get an idea of the sweeping bend that connects the front and back straights on this western side of the racecourse.  This is about a third of the way around that bend.


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« 2014-Sep-11, 11:48 AM Reply #12 »
So hoofing (excuse the pun) around to the 1800M start point.  One of the more contentious race distances because it is on the bend into the back straight.  To compensate they place the starting gates on the outside of the track, giving a "pseudo" straight run onto the end of the curve and then onto the back straight.  History would tell us you CAN win from any gate, but an inside draw is obviously an advantage and to wide from a wide gate requires a good horse and a good ride.  No place for whimps. 


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« 2014-Sep-11, 09:24 PM Reply #13 »
Let's hope they can use it elsewhere.
Shame to waste a opportunity.

It probably won't roll up too well Mono, unless you cut it really deep with a fair soil layer on it.

The divots and wear would see to that.

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« 2014-Sep-11, 09:55 PM Reply #14 »
Very good point Gintara.  When you look at the top it looks even, but after 150 years of use and fill there is bound to be wear.  I expect there would be enormous variation in soil profiles across the course.  Go below the bowling green top and there will be potholes everywhere.

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« 2014-Sep-11, 11:11 PM Reply #15 »
Gin apparently there is a lot of couch towards the outside section which doesnt see a lot of traffic.
This could be doable.

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« 2014-Sep-12, 07:26 AM Reply #16 »
Sadly, its is not commercially viable to harvest the good bits.  Would cost more to retrieve and grade than you would get for it.  I am pretty sure they have plenty of need for industrial fill during construction phase.

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« 2014-Sep-12, 10:05 AM Reply #17 »
This is what happens to the non-racing bits of the Eagle Farm campus.  Currently stables, parkland and bitumen to be utilised to raise capital for the racing infrastructure as per the BRC's Master Plan.  Hope it all ends up as good as Randwick / Flemington.  The existing stables and carparks will move to a brand new facility in the infield.


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« 2014-Sep-12, 10:26 AM Reply #18 »
How's your Super holding up Norton?

I had a Meccano set and Builda-Bricks as a kid.  Would be residual expertise from that, surely?

Wanna have a go?  Maybe just copy some of those towers near Flemington?

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« 2014-Sep-12, 10:47 AM Reply #19 »
Well, it's possible.  I put the Super out there when the All Ords was 3300, and today it is just under 5500 and no tax to pay....not eating sawdust quite yet.  Always giggle when some people punt to try and make money  :rolleyes: .  Trouble is whilst I can build stuff, my property development gene is recessive.  I am the type who would only sell appartments to little old ladies who smile at me (always been a sucker for charm), and I tell em to pay me when they can afford to.  If Vadim came at me with a fist full of dollars but looked like, talked like, behaved like and ate like a Kiwi I would show him the door.  You would never know what type of tenant he would rent his investment property to.  We would probably get people like the Porkster or Cluden moving in next door  :whistle: .

No, I leave that to experts.  But good suggestion.

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« 2014-Sep-12, 11:42 AM Reply #20 »
Good prizemoney here too.   :biggrin:

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« 2014-Sep-12, 12:11 PM Reply #21 »
So here we are at the 1600M point looking back at the 1800M start in the distance.  The start is wide on the course to reduce the impact of the bend as much as possible.


Same view with some elevation from the stewards tower at the 1600M.


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« 2014-Sep-12, 05:51 PM Reply #22 »
This is the view the jockeys get at the 1600 start.  They come out of a minor shute on the outside fence and work slowly onto the rail  before the 1400.


Here is a closer look


And the elevated view from the stewards tower at the 1600M.


Interesting to note that the 1600M point is the highest part of the course.  As you look down that back straight to the 1000M post (the dogleg is at the 1200M,  and the 1000M is the furthermost point of the straight before the eastern turn begins) the fall is five and a half metres.  Betcha you didn't know that!!!!!

It means that the sectionals for the first half of a 1600M race at the Farm are usually faster than the second half.  They run downhill to the 1000M

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« 2014-Sep-15, 10:40 AM Reply #23 »
Looking back to the 1600M chute from the 1500M point


They regularly run 1500M races at the Farm.  Nice compromise for sprinters that don't quite get the "mile".


They get a good run to the dogleg at the 1200M point then another straight run to the 1000M point.  All downhill too.


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« 2014-Sep-16, 11:28 AM Reply #24 »
And so we come to the 1400M part of the racecourse.  I thought it enigmatic that something as iconic as the Stradbroke start is simply marked thus........


Think Rough Habit, La Montagna, Private Steer, Show A Heart, Dane Ripper, Campaign King, Daybreak Lover, Triton, Rajah Sahib, Divide And Rule, Cabochon, Mr Hush, Winfreux, Celes Image.

Think Bart, TJ, Wheeler, Moody, Waterhouse, Alotta, HF Best.

Think Moore, McCarthy, C Williams, Newitt, L Nolan, Rawiller, Boss, Gauci, J Cassidy, P Cook, Mulley, Olsen, Sellwood, Pike.

This bit of grass is a shrine for Australian racing and its history  :clap2: .  As a kid, you lived and dreamed for Stradbroke Day to come.   :love:  Ahhhh the memories.

This is the view across to the grandstands those great jockeys would have looked at, as they waited to load.  They would have seen a sea of fans.  Until recent years the top of the John Power Stand (right of pic) would be packed as well.


The 1400M start is from a minor chute wide on the far side of the course and it gives a straight slightly downhill run of 400M to the 1000M point, where the course turns left oops, right on a large continuous uphill curve that brings the field into the home straight.

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