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Offline monologue

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« 2014-Sep-16, 12:08 PM Reply #25 »
Norton you mentioned some good horses there but you missed my favourite Black Piranha which was successful on two occasions.

His first win will always be my favourite Straddie moment as I had backed this horse on a number of occasions in prepost markets at varying odds from 33's and my skinniest result of 10's.
Funded a couple of great holidays including Barra fishing in Darwin.

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« 2014-Sep-16, 12:30 PM Reply #26 »
Wow.  That's what the punt is for. 

BTW, thanks for the tip (not).   I had to wait until my mate Ascot got set, and then usually there was nothing left.  Here he is with BP's trainer before the big race in 2008. 






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« 2014-Sep-16, 02:00 PM Reply #27 »
Out there for general discussion. Is it true that some avid racing participants on their demise and following cremation had their ashes spread across the finishing line at EF. I did hear of one chap not that long ago that was laid to rest aside the winning post or his ashes at least  :what:

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« 2014-Sep-16, 03:15 PM Reply #28 »
Stan, many have asked the same question.  Personally I hope I will survive on the planet until the new turf is laid.   :sweat:

I have checked the heritage rules on spreading ashes in various places and the potential thereof of said site being embellished as a sacred place in perpetuity.  It seems however that for parkland and similar grassed locations the vestigages of any hope of a permanent memorial goes away in the first mow  :/  The safe bet is probably to bury the ashes in a tin so they can be recovered during an excavation, and reinterred later.  Sadly for racing affectionados the BRC firmly denys request to dig up the racecourse for burial purposes.

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« 2014-Sep-16, 03:25 PM Reply #29 »
I'm not sure about spreading ashes there but plenty of punters have been burnt over the years.

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« 2014-Sep-16, 04:14 PM Reply #30 »
Lovely record of the old track, Norton.

You seem to have got the knack of that camera at last.  :clap2:

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« 2014-Sep-18, 12:44 PM Reply #31 »
Thanks DD.  Just think of what a photographer could do.  Moving down the course to the 1100M point, this is looking back at the two "chute" starts at 1600 and 1400.  And that dogleg turn in the back "straight" is right at the 1200M point.  The rail simply turns a few degrees to the right (in the direction of travel, as they say on the trains).
 

1600 start left of pic, 1400 on right.


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« 2014-Sep-18, 04:15 PM Reply #32 »
This pic gives a great perspective of the course layout.  Taken from the top of the stewards tower at the 1000M looking across the racecourse  and captures the entire back "straight.  The highest point of the racecourse is at the 1600M and the fall down the back to the 1000M at bottom of pic  is 5.5 metres.  That the height of Goldi Locks.  Strewth, if you lay down on the turf just before the mile and she was standing at the 1000, all you would see is her mop top.


In the recon they intend to leave that dogleg kink at the 1200.  It is part of the character of the course.  Who said the BRC mob weren't kinky. 

That long uphill curve from the Winning Post to the mile will get a 3.5% camber.  When the present turf is lifted and the base excavated, the replacement structure will be what turfologists call a "perched water table" construction, as per the US PGA specification.    http://www.pitchcare.com/magazine/usga-golf-putting-green-construction-materials.html

Of course all the punter and horse sees is a lush growth of Kikuyu grass, but underneath will be a turfologists Sarah Lee i.e. "layer upon layer" of roots in soil, sand, gravel and drainage pipes.   Real clever because the sub layers hold moisture without the present compaction problems.  This delivers an ever present source of water, even in dry seasons, for the grass to remain healthy......that cuts down significantly the need to always be watering which is a current woe for most racetracks.  In wet seasons, the sub layer holds just the right volume of water whilst the excess drains away through the gravel and piping at the base.  It a bit like having a self regulating plug in the base.  So all the course manager has to do is sprinkle the occasional cup of grass food from Bunnings on top, lightly water when needed, and mow the stuff when it gets too long...I reckon his hand should shake on payday. 

And the horses will love it. 
 

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« 2014-Sep-19, 08:17 AM Reply #33 »
Once past the 1000M point the course begins a broad sweeping 180 degree turn to the home straight. 


In the recon, this turn will have a 3.5 degree camber. 


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« 2014-Sep-19, 08:50 AM Reply #34 »
1000M races at Eagle Farm start off a long chute.  This is one part of the history of the place that changes.  This block of land gets used for non-racing / commercial purposes.  Gee, is that the old super sopper parked in that paddock in the foreground?



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« 2014-Sep-19, 08:59 AM Reply #35 »
These pics are taken from the 800M point where the old chute joined the course proper. 




This is the lowest part of the racecourse too.  There is a rise of 4M from the 800 to the winning post.  No wonder those horses are puffing at the end of their races.

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« 2014-Sep-19, 10:01 AM Reply #36 »
Whilst over at the 1000M I looked eastwards towards Doomben racecourse.  The road in the foreground here is Nudgee Road, known in racing parlance as the former Gaza Strip. 


Whilst Eagle Farm racecourse was layed out in the 1860's, Doomben was a more recent addition to the neighbourhood in the 1930's.  The tracks sit side by side and until the recent merger of the QTC (Eagle Farm) and BTC (Doomben) the occasional hand grenade and rocket was lobbed across the road as Committees rose to tensions arising from competitiveness and misguided loyalties.  Bit like the old Sydney v Melbourne rivalry, except these race clubs could see and watch each other.  Relationships would freeze and thaw then freeze again over the years.

Norton hopes to do a Doomben thread like this one in due course.

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« 2014-Sep-19, 10:10 AM Reply #37 »
This is the view across the EF midfield from the same point.  Hard to believe that during WW2 the infield housed the US Army in a military tent "city" as forces were staged for the war in the Pacific to the north of Australia.  That is a great story for another day.


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« 2014-Sep-19, 11:04 AM Reply #38 »
Norton, you may wish to point out that the mighty ADEBISI lives in the palatial stables just right of centre.

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« 2014-Sep-19, 11:30 AM Reply #39 »
That explains a lot.  We know how poor ole Adabesi suffers from the white flag syndrome when he races at the Farm.  That up hill run and knowing he has a soft bed to lay down in near the winning post might explain it.  Hmmmm  :chin: .  Lets see how he goes at Doomben tomorrow eh.

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« 2014-Sep-19, 11:57 AM Reply #40 »
So where is the new 1000M start?  It goes left of the current chute.  Standing at the 800M below look for the two towers in the background.  The new start will be aligned near these towers and pushes back to the boundary of the racecourse at the stormwater drain.


Here is another angle from one of the towers.  Imagine a rail cutting to the outside fence here and back another 50M or so behind the camera shot.  The downside is the run to the corner at the 850M is shorter than before.  The offset is they will run straight onto a camber all the way to the top of the home straight (like they do at Moonee Valley) and being away from the rail may not be that disadvantageous.  Time will tell.


This is about where the 1000M start sits.


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« 2014-Sep-19, 10:22 PM Reply #41 »
This is the 600M point looking back towards the 800M.  Just one long bend. 


And looking the other way to the 400 and the top of the straight.  The wear on the course is quite evident.  This whole bend will be cambered in the recon.


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« 2014-Sep-19, 10:34 PM Reply #42 »
Norton
Please ensure you catalogue the images in this thread I'm looking forward to viewing identical viewpoint pix when the new course is laid.

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« 2014-Sep-20, 07:06 AM Reply #43 »
Norton
Please ensure you catalogue the images in this thread I'm looking forward to viewing identical viewpoint pix when the new course is laid.

Hope you are still around in 2016.

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« 2014-Sep-20, 07:44 AM Reply #44 »
Westie, as you can see I have used an ID classification system that we scientists call "random".  Unpicking it will give me something to do in the old peoples home when I am seeking a project to pass the time.  Knitting and bridge will never be my go. 

Vadim, ye of little faith.  I reckon the newbie will go up in the blink of an eye.  Watch this space. 

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« 2014-Sep-20, 08:06 AM Reply #45 »
Hope ya don't mind waiting, westie.

He won't be allowed on there till the new track closes down.

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« 2014-Sep-20, 09:22 AM Reply #46 »
So, before we get to the last 400, this is the "panorama" of the eastern or Nudgee Road side of the racecourse.  The pics are taken from the outside fence at the 700M point. 




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« 2014-Sep-20, 09:27 AM Reply #47 »
Can't you stitch together the panorama?
« Last Edit: 2014-Sep-20, 10:11 AM by vadim »

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« 2014-Sep-20, 10:05 AM Reply #48 »
Sure could   emthup  .........if I knew how to.  :sad:

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« 2014-Sep-20, 10:11 AM Reply #49 »
Send them to yours truly


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