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Offline Spudda028

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« 2016-Jun-27, 10:51 AM Reply #350 »
So who controls the weather Dean? Who do we blame huh? It was 250 plus mm but yet again we seem to have forgotten that haven't we & you just want to push your political barrow & blame someone

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« 2016-Jun-27, 10:58 AM Reply #351 »
Yes these are the official track ratings in order. Good 4 /Good 4/ Soft 5. Doesn't read like Noah's Ark weather to me.

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« 2016-Jun-27, 11:59 AM Reply #352 »
You can never win consistently when tracks race like this and it is a bit of a waste of time even doing the form.
Didn't have one bet at Eagle Farm and yet I always look forward to the Queensland winter carnival.
 
Take Azkadellia for example, one of the country's best mares.
Set weights, damp ground and big track, looks like a bit of a "moral ".
Was she beaten because of her heavy schedule or just the track? I'll leave that for others but you wouldn't blame punters for turning away from racing watching Saturday's spectacle.
 
This follows the Melbourne Cup carnival, Cox Plate and countless others.
Two weeks ago Moonee Valley served up a heavily bias track and in Sydney you have to overcome Wallerism where it seems it's acceptable to forsake one of your own runners to ensure a solid tempo.
Might have to go and play with my grandchildren on Saturdays for my fun.

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« 2016-Jun-27, 04:22 PM Reply #353 »
On Saturday the EF track rating was given out as a SOFT 5 Pentrometer 5.1.......on Stradbroke day the rating was given out as GOOD 4 Pentrometer 5.01.......jockey Jim Byrne is quoted in today's CM that it was easily a SOFT 7 if not beyond.

“Saturday for argument’s sake (at Eagle Farm), you don’t have to be a punter to know it was not a Soft 5,” he said. “I thought it was easily a Soft 7 if not beyond.”

The next EF meeting is scheduled for 6th July a Wednesday

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« 2016-Jun-27, 04:45 PM Reply #354 »
What is the problem with calling things as they are?

This is the problem I have.

There seems to be this 'Sargent Schultz' mentality in Qld where they keep saying how great it is maybe people will believe them? I don't really have a problem with how the track raced, it is what it is, they should just set about trying to get it right moving forward.

Months ago alarms were going off with me due to a few happenings but all we heard was how great it would be instead of telling it like it is and moving on.


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« 2016-Jul-05, 09:10 PM Reply #355 »
Tomorrow the races are back at EF after a few showers today the track is rated a Heavy 8.....it does seem very strange that the BRC want to subject the track to more punishment after all it has been through.......the forecast for Wednesday is not looking like a bright mild Winter day either cold and windy is the prediction. 

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« 2016-Jul-17, 07:55 PM Reply #356 »


Criticism resurfaces as new Eagle Farm track turns to mud
 
Nathan Exelby, The Sunday Mail (Qld)

July 16, 2016 7:50pm
 

THE new Eagle Farm was the centre of attention again on Saturday as it worsened into the heavy range with less than 10mm of rain falling after the initial Soft 5 assessment in the morning.

Certainly Saturday’s surface, where the rail was back to the true position, raced more evenly than in the two previous Saturday meetings and it was a welcome sight to see Meteorologist hug the fence to win the last.

But that doesn’t disguise the fact the track deteriorated quickly, with dinner plate sized clods evident coming to the home turn.

Senior trainers Tony Gollan and Rob Heathcote have urged for patience, believing the new track simply needs time to reach its optimum.

Hopefully that’s not just wishful thinking. Jockeys have deeper concerns.

“It’s disappointing the track deteriorated as quickly as it did given the small amount of rain we had,” top jockey Damian Browne said. “If there had been much more, it would have been called off. The amount of sand coming back into your face was terrible.”

Jim Byrne was also surprised at how quickly the track became heavy, having partnered a horse on the course proper on Saturday morning.

“I don’t want to bag the track,” he said. “All of us want it to be good. We were told it would take time and accept that, but we still expected it to be better than what it is right now.”

Internationally experienced Robbie Fradd said that once horses hit the camber around the bend, horses just sink into the surface.





Given the expectations of Eagle Farm bolstering turnover on Queensland racing, the situation hardly lends itself to punters betting with confidence.

There’s no point burying heads in the sand. No stone should be left unturned in finding out if improvement of the track can be hastened.

Jeff Lloyd said it was a tough slog riding Beckham to victory on Saturday. Pictu Tim Marsden

WEIGHED DOWN: “I’m surprised I didn’t weigh-in heavy, because I swallowed so many clods during the race and that’s not counting the one between my teeth,” said Fradd after just missing the placings in the Queensland Cup on My Diamantine.

The weather hasn't been favourable since the opening day and the rush to resume racing hasn't panned out...whether the high expectations come to pass will be the question.


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Offline el zoro

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« 2016-Jul-18, 06:07 PM Reply #358 »
Hope that's just mud. ha ha
Has the track had a Dry meeting yet? seems like they've been all rain affected.
Give it time & hope for the sun to come out.

Is supposed to be a good drainage track, does anyone know what composition the layers have at EF for it to drain so well ?
 

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« 2016-Jul-18, 09:32 PM Reply #359 »
I was surprised to see in today's C-M that the track is not 'Strathayr' . . . always thought / assumed that it was

Mackay's 'Strathayr' has performed above expectations, and they get more rain  . . in bigger lumps . . than E-F ever will

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« 2016-Jul-18, 09:51 PM Reply #360 »
This pic gives a great perspective of the course layout.  Taken from the top of the stewards tower at the 1000M looking across the racecourse  and captures the entire back "straight.  The highest point of the racecourse is at the 1600M and the fall down the back to the 1000M at bottom of pic  is 5.5 metres.  That the height of Goldi Locks.  Strewth, if you lay down on the turf just before the mile and she was standing at the 1000, all you would see is her mop top.


In the recon they intend to leave that dogleg kink at the 1200.  It is part of the character of the course.  Who said the BRC mob weren't kinky. 

That long uphill curve from the Winning Post to the mile will get a 3.5% camber.  When the present turf is lifted and the base excavated, the replacement structure will be what turfologists call a "perched water table" construction, as per the US PGA specification.    http://www.pitchcare.com/magazine/usga-golf-putting-green-construction-materials.html

Of course all the punter and horse sees is a lush growth of Kikuyu grass, but underneath will be a turfologists Sarah Lee i.e. "layer upon layer" of roots in soil, sand, gravel and drainage pipes.   Real clever because the sub layers hold moisture without the present compaction problems.  This delivers an ever present source of water, even in dry seasons, for the grass to remain healthy......that cuts down significantly the need to always be watering which is a current woe for most racetracks.  In wet seasons, the sub layer holds just the right volume of water whilst the excess drains away through the gravel and piping at the base.  It a bit like having a self regulating plug in the base.  So all the course manager has to do is sprinkle the occasional cup of grass food from Bunnings on top, lightly water when needed, and mow the stuff when it gets too long...I reckon his hand should shake on payday. 

And the horses will love it.

From earlier in the thread & assume they made it as per the description.

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« 2016-Jul-19, 11:33 AM Reply #361 »
Travis Wolfgram must get the ride of the day at EF on Saturday. Meteorologist was last at the 600m & railed to save a heap of ground & he kept the horse up tight against the rail. Didn't see a clod fly from that section of the track last 400m compared to the others racing wider. Saved ground & found some firmer going. Top marks to him for that ride.   


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