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Offline monologue

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« 2014-Sep-20, 10:34 AM Reply #50 »
This is one of Doomben taken by vadim




Offline Norton

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« 2014-Sep-25, 10:55 AM Reply #51 »
On to the home turn. 


Gee that's long run in.  Takes a good jockey to time the run just right. 


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« 2014-Sep-26, 11:29 AM Reply #52 »
The Eagle Farm straight is approx. 415M long, so the field passes the 400M pole AFTER turning.


This is what the horse and jockey sees as the task ahead (if you are in front).


The Derby start (2400M) is 20M ahead of here.
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« 2014-Sep-26, 11:42 AM Reply #53 »
Down to the 200M.  150 years ago, this was called the Furlong Pole.



Always be careful what you say at this point from your grandstand seat, 'cause the jockeys can probably hear you.  Precious little souls can be offended if the criticism is too harsh.  Berating Tegan, Priscilla, Rikki, Brigid or (God forbid) Cassie is verboten for obvious reasons.  Of course you can yell out whatever you think at Bobby because he has a hide like an elephant. 


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« 2014-Sep-30, 02:39 PM Reply #54 »
This is the 2100M start point.  The stalls have to be tractored off the course proper quickly up that "ramp" whilst the field does a lap.


Used to be called the 10 and a half furlong start.  Most famous race I can recall from those years was the time honoured JHS Barnes Plate.  They get a short run of about 100M before commencing the uphill run around the western bend.  Hard to win from a wide gate here.



Incidentally, this is the exact spot where aviator legend Bert Hinkler (Bundaberg's second most famous identity) landed a plane in 1928.


This plaque is on the wall of the Members Stand


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« 2014-Sep-30, 08:46 PM Reply #55 »
The finish line, as seen by winners for the last 150 years.


And looking back up the straight


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« 2014-Oct-02, 05:04 PM Reply #56 »
So, here is the finish line.







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« 2014-Oct-16, 11:00 AM Reply #57 »
BRC Members were advised at the AGM that the start on proposed works is imminent.  The successful tenderer will be announced in about 7 days.   

Many are frustrated and in wonderment why the works have not progressed since racing closed on 20 August.  One of the problems has been Government red tape.....not the LNP in Government, but the public service methodology.  The QACRIB (RQ) which controls the industry was set up in the new Racing Act as a statutory body.  The former Bentley led regime (RQL) was a corporation....a private company appointed by the Minister, at arm's length to the Government.  The difference is significant when it comes to spending money.  Remember the relative informality of the RQL / Contour projects scrutinised by the White Commission.  Today QACRIB must, by law, operate in matters of major projects within the rules of the Queensland Public Service.  This is the typical flow of events.

1.  Projects that exceed $2M in spend are beyond the financial delegation of the Minister for Racing and must be approved by Governor  In Council.  This usually takes several months of paperwork, committee meetings and Cabinet review.

2.  Money gets appropriated by Qld Treasury for the use of QACRIB in the parliamentary budget papers, or via monthly Cabinet Budget Review Committee (CBRC), a formal process that links Cabinet decisions to Treasury and the Department of Racing.  Usually takes a month, often more.

3.  Once approvals (above) are obtained, the money for tunnels, track upgrade and infield stabling, car parks and roads in the infield gets freed up and a public tender process begins.  It is unlawful to even commence a tender process until the approvals are signed off.  During this period the project manager will have drawn up the formal tender documents, which includes the specifications in great detail.  A formal tender document can extend to a hundred pages or more.  Takes many weeks to write one, especially if the project is a greenfield (new) approach.  You have to get it right, because you cannot change the specifications once the tender is let, at least without cost blow outs.
 
4.  The tender is advertised and usually closes after a minimum of three weeks.

5.  Offers for tender are received, reviewed and compared in great detail.  This will usually take weeks to endure probity needs are met.  The successful tenderer must match the specifications to the letter or a negotiation process is needed (more time spent).

6.  Finally the decision is made.  The project manager makes a recommendation to QACRIB, who must agree and approve, then forward to the Department of Racing which must be satisfied due process has been followed before a recommendation to proceed is given in writing by the Minister.

Welcome to Government.  The same process applies to major spending in Health, Education, Transport, Community...you name it.  Racing is no different.  The average turnaround between wanting and getting is between three to four months.  Hence Eagle Farm lays idle.  No one's fault, just Public Sector process.

As for the location of the 2015 WRC, BRC Chairman Neville Bell told the AGM that a decision will be made around January, depending on the progress of the works soon to begin.  I don't understand the agony some express about this aka the LGHR mob.  Who cares where they run it as a one off???????

As soon as the stables, currently sited at the 600 / 400M outfields, are moved to a new 400 horse complex infield, the building of 1200 apartments along Nudgee road and up the straight a bit will commence.  This is a private joint venture project.  Private offers for that close on 31 October, and Mr Bell revealed that there is keen interest.  Hot on the heels of all this will be another joint venture project that will see a supermarket and specialty shops built on BRC land up by the 1000M chute.

 


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« 2014-Oct-20, 04:23 PM Reply #58 »
Nice to see Peter Cameron write in the Sunday Mail yesty.

The Brisbane Racing Club anguished over its $10M Eagle Farm revamp.  Racing appeals legend Bill Carter demanded at the lively BRC AGM to know tender details and date for start of works.  Chairman Neville Bell admitted he was stumped by government delays after the track closed on 20th August.

Onya Pete.  At least someone reads this thread.

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« 2014-Oct-20, 04:26 PM Reply #59 »
Nice to see Peter Cameron write in the Sunday Mail yesty.

The Brisbane Racing Club anguished over its $10M Eagle Farm revamp.  Racing appeals legend Bill Carter demanded at the lively BRC AGM to know tender details and date for start of works.  Chairman Neville Bell admitted he was stumped by government delays after the track closed on 20th August.

Onya Pete.  At least someone reads this thread.

dd managed a mention in this column as well.
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« 2014-Oct-20, 04:37 PM Reply #60 »
And Nathan Excelby reports today in the CM:

AN ANNOUNCEMENT is expected this week on the successful bidder for the Eagle Farm redevelopment.

It has been bogged down with bureaucracy and red tape ever since it was officially given the green light on Stradbroke day in June.

Having been well aware of delays for previous government announcements, Racing Queensland was far too quick to pull the trigger on the shifting of races from the venue.

Trainers at Eagle Farm have enjoyed the best surface in Australia over the past two months, being able to use the course proper for gallops and jumpouts every Tuesday.

That might be good for them, but not so flash for owners with a horse that needs a big track to show its best.

The last meeting at Eagle Farm was August 20, yet two months down the track and works have not started.

That is two months where Doomben could have been protected, before the looming Summer Carnival and next year’s Group 1 winter meets.
For the Winter Carnival, there is no way Eagle Farm can be ready, given the negative experiences we have seen with Toowoomba and Ipswich being rushed back from makeovers.

The expectation is that Doomben will host all of the Group 1 races, including the Stradbroke.

Why wouldn’t Caloundra come under consideration?

Right now, many trainers rate Corbould Park the best in the state and the beauty of having the Stradbroke there is that field sizes could be the same and no distances would have to be changed.

But even if Racing Queensland sees the Stradbroke as a bridge too far, at the very least, Caloundra should be part of the Saturday metropolitan circuit during the Eagle Farm redevelopment.

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« 2014-Oct-21, 09:28 AM Reply #61 »
If Doomben isnt up to scratch come Straddie day then Caloundra would be a suitable replacement track.

Might even go to the starddie next year if its up on the coast


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« 2014-Oct-22, 08:46 AM Reply #62 »
Brad Davidson reports today in the CM:

EVERGREEN Turf has won the multi-milliondollar contract for the Eagle Farm track redevelopment. Work will begin in the next few weeks after a two-month delay.

The Victorian-based company which installed the surface at Melbourne’s AAMI Park, beat StrathAyr for the $10 million contract and the announcement will be made by Racing Queensland this week.
The money will be spent on upgrading the outdated track, including irrigation and drainage work.

The $22 million Eagle Farm upgrade announced in June was divided in two and the successful bidder for the remaining $12 million contract on works to the infield is also expected to be announced soon.

Today marks nine weeks since Eagle Farm hosted its last race meeting despite the course proper being used regularly for barrier trials in the interim.

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« 2014-Oct-23, 11:29 AM Reply #63 »
Big day today.  Rumour is the first thing they dug up was that betting ticket DD lost in 1959.




Work begins on new Eagle Farm Track
 


The horses have moved out and the machines have moved in at Eagle Farm as the state’s premier race track and the spiritual home of racing in Queensland prepares for a multi-million dollar facelift.

Racing Minister Steve Dickson and Treasurer Tim Nicholls today announced Evergreen Turf as the successful tenderer for the $10 million upgrade of the track.

“Eagle Farm is the showpiece when it comes to the Queensland racing industry and I’m pleased to announce Evergreen Turf will deliver the first major upgrade to the Eagle Farm track in 149 years of racing,” Mr Dickson said.

“Work begins this week and will deliver up to 100 jobs over the duration of the entire project, which will deliver a world class racetrack and deliver on the Government’s promise to rebuild the racing industry and grow the economy.

Treasurer and Member for Clayfield Tim Nicholls said the upgrade of the course proper was another milestone in the State Government’s commitment to rejuvenate the State’s racing industry.

“We’re restoring confidence in the racing sector, and shoring up an industry that employs 30,000 people, with this long overdue refurbishment,” Mr Nicholls said.

“A state of the art surface will help drive interest from trainers and owners, which translates into wagering growth and improved patronage on race days, and provides a flow on effect to tourism and local businesses.”

Racing Queensland Chief Executive Darren Condon said the new racing surface would further improve the quality of the state’s thoroughbred racing product with new prize money allocations recently kicking in.

“Evergreen was responsible for the turf racing surface at Pakenham in Victoria and upgrades at Hawkesbury in New South Wales, as well as a number of sports facilities around the country,” Mr Condon said.

“The new racing surface uses the latest in drainage technology, which is designed to ensure racing continues under extreme weather events. The improved cambering of the track will also significantly enhance its racing performance.”

BRC Chairman Neville Bell said the track upgrade would deliver a first class racing and training facility for the racing industry of Queensland.

“The Brisbane Racing Club is privileged to be the custodian of the Eagle Farm course proper, a location where Queensland racehorse owners aspire to win a race and Queensland punters want to bet on,” Mr Bell said.

“The upgrade of the course proper is the first phase of a major redevelopment of the track and infield areas of Eagle Farm, with ensuing stages to include flood mitigation works, a 1,000 vehicle car park, tunnels and 400 new state-of-the-art horse stables.”

Further information will be provided on these sections of the project in the near future, however today’s announcement marks an important milestone in the execution of our Master Plan, which will see significant investment in the Eagle Farm and Doomben racecourse precincts,” he said.


The numbers…

The project to upgrade the Eagle Farm course proper will include:
•91,000m2  of grass to be stripped
•91,000m2 of kikuyu turf to be laid in its place
•65,000m2 of course proper
•25,000m3 of sand to be imported
•19,000 l/m of drainage pipes
•A state of the art irrigation system


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« 2014-Oct-23, 01:56 PM Reply #64 »
Not really sure how they come up with '100 jobs created'  :what: Evergreen have their own staff, that's the point of getting in the experts after all  ;)

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« 2014-Oct-23, 02:30 PM Reply #65 »
Not really sure how they come up with '100 jobs created'  :what: Evergreen have their own staff, that's the point of getting in the experts after all  ;)

Surely they wouldn't have large projects on the go all the time and would need additional workers when required?

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« 2014-Oct-23, 03:18 PM Reply #66 »
Hey Gin do you know of this mob?

Had a look on the internet and they seem to have been everywhere providing their services.
Their record of jobs completed seem impressive.


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« 2014-Oct-23, 04:25 PM Reply #67 »
Mono - we deal with them as a company, mainly in Vic but I have a bit to do with the Sydney arm which is growing the replacement turf you see go into the major stadiums each week when you turn on the footy etc.

Can't argue with anything I've seem from them.

Surely they wouldn't have large projects on the go all the time and would need additional workers when required?

Not really SW, they would normally only have one or two jobs of this size on the go at one time, it's also pretty specialised work, so not something you pick up in 5 minutes.

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« 2014-Oct-23, 04:32 PM Reply #68 »
Thanks Gin re your thoughts

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« 2014-Oct-23, 06:11 PM Reply #69 »
May I suggest the literal statement "create 100 jobs" is political speak for "the expenditure on labour is the equivalent of the creation 100 temporary jobs".  The reality is that significant money from this specific project will be expensed on labour.  The losing tenderer will not enjoy that benefit.

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« 2014-Oct-23, 06:34 PM Reply #70 »
Norton, I don't doubt and understand that, it's just in this instance, there's no new jobs created as the majority will come from the existing work force of the successful tenderer.

 

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« 2014-Oct-23, 06:38 PM Reply #71 »
I understand GT but the pollies see expenditure on labour as "job creation".  See it as an accounting term.

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« 2014-Oct-23, 09:07 PM Reply #72 »
Yep it will be great to see that NZ grass Kikuyu replace that Australian failure and provide the future for the Farm.

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« 2014-Oct-23, 09:11 PM Reply #73 »
Yep it will be great to see that NZ grass Kikuyu replace that Australian failure and provide the future for the Farm.

ya kiddn me   :chin:

i thought it came from south africa  ?

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« 2014-Oct-23, 09:15 PM Reply #74 »
Actually it did originally but the Kiwis improved it and had it years ahead of the Australians and then called it our own.


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