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« 2018-Oct-31, 09:52 PM Reply #1750 »
I've been going to country meetings since the early 1960s and 'fervently believe they are integral to the fabric of rural communities as well as playing an important part in the development of licensees (ie Peter Moodys of the world).
But the economics of country racing is certain to be an on-going issue ... who is going to continue to prop them up?
John Messara's report to NZ Racing is sobering ... he has recommended 20 of 48 clubs be closed and they are not all bush outposts.
It is worth a look...

Same here Bish. Went to my first country meeting at Scone in 1966. It is in my blood. I prefer to go to a country meeting than a city meeting and the reason I am on this forum is via my advocacy for country racing,

NSW and Victoria have been through the same thing and a lot of non tabbies were deleted from their schedules. And look at their country racing now. I would be confident in saying that the country racing in NSW and Victoria is second to none in the world when it comes to prizemoney and professionalism for non metro racing.

And still they have enough resources to maintain non tabbies - albeit on a smaller scale. The once a year country cup meetings at non tab venues are great meets and at this time of year some of the Victorian country meetings are held at some of the most picturesque sites you could ever imagine.

NSW has a loose categorization of City, Provincial, Country (A), Country (B) and Non TAB + Picnics.

I think Qld would benefit from a similar categorization and maybe more resources put into a few non tab tracks to bring them up to TAB standard. Pretty sure Dalby and Gympie were once TAB venues.

In the modern racing game it is a sad fact that you need "product" to supply to the TAB and Corporates to get a return on your investment and non tabbies produce no return.

And no-one is saying get rid of all non tabbies.

On Saturday there are three non tabbies in NSW, three in Victoria and six in Queensland. Maybe that would be a starting point - try and get them down to the same number as NSW and Vic.

Robert Heathcote pointed out that the percentage of prizemoney for Qld had fallen from 75% down to 45% of NSW and Vic. We are not going to get an improvement in those figures unless we start copying NSW and Vic - my opinion anyway.


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« 2018-Nov-01, 09:04 AM Reply #1751 »
RACING Queensland yesterday confirmed an injection of $18 million in prizemoney increases, which are set to be introduced from tomorrow’s Ipswich meeting.

The distribution, the bulk of which will be used to pay down to 10th place, comes from the deal struck with government last Friday, with the remaining $8 million from that deal to come in six months.

“This prizemoney boost will address one of the biggest challenges facing racing in Queensland – its ongoing viability, long-term sustainability and competitiveness with other racing jurisdictions across Australia,” Racing Queensland chairman Steve Wilson said.

Races at Queensland TAB meetings will pay prizemoney from fifth to 10th, with a sliding structure of $1000 down to $300 depending on the meeting status.

It means Saturday metropolitan prizemoney lifts from $70,000 to $75,000 ($40,000 races go to $45,000), midweek metros ($25,000 to $30,000), Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast and Ipswich from $16,000 to $21,000 (including maidens), and other provincial venues go from $14,000 to $19,000.

Country TAB stakes at venues including Kilcoy, Beaudesert, Warwick, Gatton, Dalby and Roma will rise from $12,000 to $14,500.

“The focus on unplaced stakes from fifth to 10th aims to defray costs for participants, while improving cash flows for trainers and, for the owners who subsidise the industry,” RQ chief executive Brendan Parnell  said.

“By allocating funds in this manner, RQ aims to drive improved field sizes, especially at provincial TAB meetings which have been under pressure for the past two years.”

Other changes include increasing key Northern Cups and the Toowoomba Cup to $150,000, and for Listed races to carry a minimum of $125,000 in prizemoney.

Wilson said RQ and industry representatives from the harness and greyhound codes were in continued discussions about enduring funding for the viability and competitiveness of their codes.

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« 2018-Nov-01, 05:55 PM Reply #1752 »

'Improved' field sizes

It is not a sensible decision of RacingQueensland to follow the southern states and pay prize-money down to 10th.

Wasting money in this way will only hasten its rush to irrelevance.

Claiming to 'improve field sizes' does not translate to 'increase field sizes'.

“The focus on unplaced stakes from fifth to 10th aims to defray costs for participants, while improving cash flows for trainers and, for the owners who subsidise the industry,” “By allocating funds in this manner, RQ aims to drive improved field sizes, especially at provincial TAB meetings which have been under pressure for the past two years.”

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« 2018-Nov-02, 08:29 AM Reply #1753 »
The obvious benefit in paying unplaced runners some appearance money  is reducing the cost to owners whether it will have the desired effect of increasing field sizes at TAB meetings in the country is to be determined...... already Metro fields are mostly very well filled ....obviously it's a desirable objective to attract bigger fields means bigger turnover better competition and more revenue returned to RQ & the guvment ..... although Racing NSW which leads the way in paying down to 10th still suffers from small fields on Saturdays  ......everyone involved in achieving this improved prize money outcome should be happy ...QLD will never be able to compete on equal terms with NSW and Victoria.

Doomben on Saturday has 9 races worth $75K all races have 8 or more acceptors the last race has 24 ....but down in Sydney there are 9 races worth $125K apart from the Highway $75K..... but there are 4 races with less than 8 acceptors ......wonder what's the problem not enough horses to make full fields or some tweaking needed with the programs.

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« 2018-Nov-02, 10:32 AM Reply #1754 »

.....................bigger fields means bigger turnover better competition

Horses just cluttering the field are not conducive to 'better competition' in a fair race

The policy -- 'bigger turnover' and 'more money for racing' -- depends on the punters being duped.

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« 2018-Nov-13, 07:13 PM Reply #1755 »
Brendan Parnell on the improved position of racing participants and the resumption of racing at Eagle Farm...a RQ monologue.

I'm impressed by Parnell I think he is a good fit in his CEO role.......although it seems to me that RQ has an overbalanced board and more executives than a business of its size should  need.

https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/News-And-Guides/November-2018/WATCH-CEO-Brendan-Parnell-Thoroughbred-Update


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« 2018-Nov-13, 08:21 PM Reply #1756 »
Fair dinkum . This rubbish is straight off the J Goebells first lesson in propaganda training manual .Because no one is even remotely interested in what this latest over paid public servant has to say that they have to publish it on their own website ! We have heard all this nonsense before by the now muted Ascot and Dubbledee. Queensland Racing is sick of all these pretenders telling us "how great it will be ". Well past the time for words. It is action that is required.
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« 2018-Nov-13, 09:44 PM Reply #1757 »
Let me tell you this . .

There is very little optimism in non-TAB club committees in the bush

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« 2018-Nov-13, 09:53 PM Reply #1758 »
Spot on Arthur. The "new deal " will not be paid for by city winning trainers in their black Mercedes (Rob) or battling jockeys in their mansions (Larry ). It will be paid for by those in the rural cities and towns. Nothing surer.

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« 2018-Nov-14, 06:07 PM Reply #1759 »
Correct. There will be a rationalisation of non-TAB racing here in QLD as part of the deal with the government during the POC tax negotiations. Parnell clearly alluded to same when he stated he welcomed the government’s change of mind in view of RQ’s commitment to making the industry’s future ‘sustainable’. RQ will look to convert viable non-TAB racing to TAB racing and the rest will become vulnerable. I’ve said the same previously and sitting patiently awaiting which clubs will be culled. It’s just a matter of time! In the meantime Brendan needs to address the exploding cost of integrity here in Qld whose budget over runs would run multiple country clubs for years.

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« 2018-Nov-14, 07:31 PM Reply #1760 »
What beggars belief JayDee is that we have this imposed cove called Brendan who will make decisions about the future of so many Queensland Racing Clubs. What of his form line ? As I have previously pointed out his recent employment history is with two of the great non achievers of the Racing Industry ; UBET (or whatever it is called this week ) and the NSW TAB also known as Sky Channel. As a long time TAB employee is there any remote possibility that this fly in will be interested in Country Queensland Race Clubs. You can get on with me.

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« 2018-Nov-15, 07:57 PM Reply #1761 »
Unfortunately Gunbower i can’t mount a defence to your comments. That’s ‘our’ dilemma! 😢

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« 2018-Nov-16, 10:44 AM Reply #1762 »
Mackay is the venue today program of 8 races worth a reasonable $19K should there be fields of at least 10 starters where the pay day runs to 10th worth $400 but only one race has 10 starters the rest ......three of 9 starters..... one of 8 ....two with 7 starters and one with only 6 runners .......two of those races have QTIS bonuses worth $12K for 3yo's and $6K for fillies ...so QR will save around $6K due to the smaller fields...but will more than likely be up for two QTIS bonuses ....how successful this meeting will be gauged by the turnover.............. the on course attendance would be relatively small I would think judging by the absence of patrons at big city weekday meetings.

RQ would need more than a miracle to turn the industry around to meet the guvment's unrealistic (albeit unspecified in financial terms) targets they have imposed...attached to the new funding provided $26M.....and the harness and greyhounds have yet to receive their smallish slices of the pie.

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« 2018-Nov-16, 11:21 AM Reply #1763 »
Tomorrow the Saturday fields in QLD are Doomben 9 races 6 are worth $75K two only $45K and the Quality $125K  only the first race has less than 8 acceptors Gold Coast with 8 races worth $21K one with $25K...on paper  the best country meeting is Roma with 8 races ....7 of which are worth $15K with the Open $22.5K...then there's Julia Creek 6 races worth $8K no increased run downs there only pay to 4th ....same for Mt Perry 5 races worth $8K .... Townsville is at the bottom rung of the ladder only 5 races worth a measly $7K apart from one of $9K .....while Toowoomba has 7 races of $19 some smallish fields two have 9 acceptors and there are two with only 7 acceptors ...but if you rely on UBET to find out which of those meetings are available to bet on with them only Doomben and the southern meetings are listed at present.....still asleep at the wheel. :sleep:

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« 2018-Nov-17, 07:00 AM Reply #1764 »
The TVILL meeting is a non-TAB; hence the 5 race card . . and the "measly" prize-money

It is actually a Herbert River (Ingham) meeting transferred because of repair work to their track

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« 2018-Nov-20, 04:34 PM Reply #1765 »
Reading through the latest edition of RQ's Race Magazine the lead article is  Racing Qld's Vision for the Future by CEO Brendan Parnell who amongst other things outlines recent changes to  the management structure ...which consists of the CEO.....COO.....GM Racing....GM Corporate Affairs & Policy and CCO whatever that translates to...plus the Board members Chair...Deputy Chair...3 Directors Gallops Harness & Greyhounds plus 2 independent directors.....no mention of the numbers of support staff required to keep the engine running while the Directors direct and the Board meets  but they would be mentioned I expect in the Annual report .....then further on there's the  Forfeit List  which never seems to be adressed with any vigour or success...so what do all of the above do ...and how many could safely disappear without any significant loss of direction.
It seems to me from the outside looking in  that RQ is top heavy and it would be beneficial if the guvment had the Auditor General examine and report on the effectiveness and operational requirements .......possibly splitting the functions back to where they were before The Bobster sold the three codes the amalgamation idea.

One compliment they deserve IMO is producing the RACE Magazine well worth reading.

https://en.calameo.com/read/000373495cc598ab05f90


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« 2018-Dec-09, 08:08 PM Reply #1766 »
Prizemoney boost for country racing

CLEAR PASSAGE: Matt McGillivray rides Coldstone to victory in the Brisbane Handicap. Pictu AAP

RACING Queensland will today announce a total of $550,000 prizemoney increases for the state’s non-TAB race meetings.

The allocation is part of the first $18 million given to RQ by the government to fund prizemoney increases across the state.

Minimum prizemoney for all country races will now rise to $7450, with first prizemoney being $5000. The increases come into effect from Saturday.

“The prizemoney increases for both non-TAB and TAB thoroughbred racing aim to directly improve cash flow and industry viability for participants and owners,” RQ chairman Steve Wilson said.

“It is hoped the recent announcements will help lift confidence within the Queensland industry and make it more attractive to race a horse at any of Queensland’s 120 thoroughbred clubs.”

The news follows last week’s $75,000 Country Cups Challenge, which is one of several new country racing initiatives introduced over the past two seasons.

Wilson said regional thoroughbred racing contributed $445 million to the state’s economy annually.

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« 2018-Dec-09, 08:30 PM Reply #1767 »
Well that is a major shock  ! Finding out that " Stevie " is still there . Haven't heard from him for ages. Wonder if he knows anything about Racing yet ?

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« 2018-Dec-11, 12:02 PM Reply #1768 »
The first of two trials today on the new surface at EF proved the track is very good no problems the video of second trial isn't up yet on RQ's website but can't imagine any problem with the track .

https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/racing-and-results/full-calendar/thoroughbred/meeting/e%20fm/20181211


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« 2018-Dec-11, 06:29 PM Reply #1769 »
Went down to EF this morning and overwhelming response from licensees involved as well as staff was that the track was in terrific shape.
Good news for a return to racing on Dec 22 but reckon there is a heap of work to be done on facilities to bring them up to scratch for patrons on the day. Everything looked very tired, grubby etc.
Nevertheless, great news to have the premier track back in action.

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« 2019-Jan-01, 08:23 AM Reply #1770 »
What a wonderful start to the new year with RQ taking us back to the 1950's  by staging the year's  first race meeting today at Beaudesert a 40 /60 minutes drive from the city depending where you live.....it's just how it used to be .......what a great idea reminding us of  the good old days ......only  two meetings a week.....one provincial and one in town on Saturdays and Public holidays always EF or Doomben on Labor Day ...no such sentimentality shown today from RV or Racing NSW  both running metropolitan meetings today at Flemington and Randwick Kensington...highlight of the day for anyone going to Beaudesert is on the way home stopping at the Veresdale Hotel for the two up game ...although I imagine  the toughs who ran it in the old days would be watching from above or on walking frames......well done RQ enjoy the peace and quiet and take a drive out of town to Beaudesert and don't forget to let us know the attendance...payers at the gate.

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« 2019-Jan-01, 11:56 AM Reply #1771 »
Good value:
This New Year’s Day we are racing! Gates open at 11am, entry for adults is $5.00pp and Kids/Pensioners FREE! And we have installed a new addition our “Recovery Pack” this includes; entry into the racecourse, $10.00 food voucher, 2 x drink vouchers, includes a FREE stubby cooler all just for $25.00!

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« 2019-Jan-02, 09:29 PM Reply #1772 »

Racing in Queensland is already slippered

.............. continuing to put the slipper in is simply unkind.

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« 2019-Jan-06, 11:09 AM Reply #1773 »
Queensland's former chief steward Allan Reardon is confident his new role as a track walker can help the industry overcome a controversial problem.Trainers and jockeys have been complaining for months about what they say are inaccurate track ratings at some TAB meetings. In response, Racing Queensland has appointed Reardon to assess the tracks before race meetings......can't they ever get rid of this dinosaur....what now, after he's stuffed any confidence left in Qld racing, is he going to walk around the track and stick his walking stick in every few strides.......going on past form he'll be doing same job in his walking frame in 10 years time. so much for integrity.


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