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Offline gratlog

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« 2009-Feb-14, 12:28 PM Reply #25 »
Could be history being made here today so hope it doesn't get rained off.

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« 2009-Feb-14, 01:40 PM Reply #26 »
 betting at toowoomba.............
 u are either a victim of the punt,
 or u have a death wish  :biggrin: ?

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« 2009-Feb-14, 01:53 PM Reply #27 »
Those that have been together on this and TNHRCF will tell you that we have had a lot of fun betting up on the range.

 If it hadn't rained we probably would have went up for the last race on the grass. ;)

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« 2009-Feb-14, 02:05 PM Reply #28 »
What's your view of the new-gangled syntho tracks, AH ?

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« 2009-Feb-14, 02:40 PM Reply #29 »
 good luck.....grats.................
 pox........manurehead.

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« 2009-Feb-14, 04:28 PM Reply #30 »
Toowoomba grass track in as good a condition as any track in Australia ..... shame they want to tear it up  :what:

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« 2009-Feb-14, 04:35 PM Reply #31 »
The drought is pretty well over, hence the improvement.

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« 2009-Feb-17, 12:01 PM Reply #32 »
She's driven more than one of us to the deep end, but Jugah mare JUGERSTON gets another chance to win her Maiden in the last at Toowoomba tonight.

Maybe she'll hold the honour of winning the last race to be held on GRASS at Clifford Park.   Then again, maybe not. :unsu


Well she ran another good race to get 2nd after stepping poorly and coming from last at the 800.  It seems only a matter of time before she gets into the winner's stall.  I know Coinswell will be asking "but how much time, DD?".  :nowink:

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« 2009-Feb-18, 09:34 AM Reply #33 »
We've spoken about Twba 4yo DRUMSHANBO on numerous occasions.  He looks to be in a winnable race at Doomben this arve (Race 8 the blue).

He's not started on a heavy track, but ran a good 2nd on SLOW at Twba last prep.  By Kenfair, the track shouldn't be a problem.

Claiming for Evans.  Tough race, just the same.

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« 2009-Feb-18, 09:55 AM Reply #34 »
Re Jugerston dd I was thumbing through an old Andy Beyer book the other day called Picking Winners.

He talks of a horse called Jacques Who which raced in the New York area in the early 70s - in 1973 it raced 20 times and finished second 13 times and third once.  He said this:

"Jacques Who was the classic embodiment of the type of animal known as a "sucker horse" one who seemingly refuses to win under any conditions.  Handicappers should view with skepticism any horse who displays a chronic inability to win no matter how strong his (or in Jugerston's case 'her') credentials may appear otherwise or how weak the opposition is".

Sums up Jugerston I reckon.

Re. Drumshanbo - not the most tractable of conveyances and seems either to get a long way back and paradoxically seems to rip and tear when on the speed.  The toppie looks tough to beat but is conceding a whack of weight to Drumshanbo.

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« 2009-Feb-18, 09:57 AM Reply #35 »
We can now look back on Toowoomba as the good old days.

Hope they do race there again one day as it is a nice night out.

Just up the hill from my place.  We stay in a motel overnight then have Brekky in Queens Park   emthup

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« 2009-Feb-18, 09:59 AM Reply #36 »
Surely the Toowoomba club can't be known as the Toowoomba Turf Club any more....Can it?

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« 2009-Feb-18, 10:18 AM Reply #37 »
I don't subscribe to the adage that a horse who keeps running 2nds and 3rds lacks a will to win, or whatever.  It fails all tests of logic, IMO.

JUGERSTON doesn't know she's sposed to win, rather than run 2nd.   Had the winner not been in the race she'd have won.

I back her place only, so it's not a major problem.
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« 2009-Feb-18, 10:29 AM Reply #38 »
Over the years I've seen many horses turn it up near the winning post when they were on form good things to win.  Conversely other horses have a very strong will to win - Hot Danish springs to mind.

Horses are flesh and blood and who can say what idiosyncrasies and foibles individual nags will have?  Jugerston's racing style as a backmarker doesn't help her cause either.   Logic and horses

As someone who generally prefers to bet for the win I will continue to steer clear of Jugerston.  She's had way too many chances for mine, and I'd go broke following the likes of her. 

That is not to say she may win a race one day and good luck to the connections in that regard.

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« 2009-Feb-18, 11:22 AM Reply #39 »
Spot on about backmarkers running places coinswell. Think of a horse like Shogun Lodge.....how many times did it run minor placings in big races. Front runners typically have more wins than seconds, more seconds than thirds. The opposite of backmarkers. If you back place only, the issue of on/off pace style is not worthy of consideration.

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« 2009-Mar-01, 10:12 AM Reply #40 »
Toowoomba refugee, ROCKLET ran a good race resuming at EF yesterday.  I think we can expect a win from her before too long.

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« 2009-Mar-12, 09:55 AM Reply #41 »
I was impressed with Twba filly REDIBIS when she won on her home track in December.  She then went to the GC and was shunted off the track for the entire trip.

Today she lines up at Rocky in Race 5 from the red box.  With Ms Banks steering we can expect a prominent run.  Should be good odds.

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« 2009-Mar-12, 03:28 PM Reply #42 »
Thought it was gone for a sec! Cheers DD!

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« 2009-Mar-12, 03:49 PM Reply #43 »
Nice price...shame I just found it...grrrr :mad:

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« 2009-Mar-12, 04:31 PM Reply #44 »
Wouldn't be surprised if 17 Four Amigos ran a bold race in the last.

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« 2009-Mar-12, 04:47 PM Reply #45 »
Close. Don't you love being beaten by $64 pops ?

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« 2009-Mar-12, 05:04 PM Reply #46 »
Close. Don't you love being beaten by $64 pops ?

  :lol:  yeah! But in the end i only really expected to place and $5 was alright!
DD right T'Wooba does seem to really favour the home horses, or atleats the ones that have run their abit.


Mate of mine over in England tells me BUENA VISTA will run well in the 2 at Cheltenham, I'll have a bit of muck around money on it should be EWs, very wrong thread for it i guess.

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« 2009-Mar-24, 10:54 AM Reply #47 »
Friday was certainly a day to remember at Clifford Park.

1. We finally saw the much-discussed CLASSIC FORCE do what we've been expecting for several months.  Whitely got the 4yo going early and he was never going to lose.  He's capable of winning again, too.

2. As coins as said, DESDEMONA looked good winning the F&M Trophy.  Not that we didn't already know how good she was, but connections have finally been rewarded with a nice win.  Also following on from coins, BINGIL BAY's run was a great effort.  3yo taking on the older mares, she tried hard after being wide from the jump.

3. In the last, the Maund-trained RHODAMINE repaid connections a fair bit of the fine that arose from a recent positive swab.  She went to the lead early and just ran away from them.

4. Other winners HEART and MANSTON put in good efforts and look certain to score in the metro area before long.  DRUMSHANBO is another who'll be ringing up No 1 in the near future.


We've mentioned DRUMSHANBO a few times on this thread.  He's matured into a very handy stayer.  He got no favours on Saturday, yet raced away to a convincing win.

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« 2009-Mar-27, 09:20 AM Reply #48 »
Looking forward to see star Twba filly CHAKVETADZE make her re-appearance in the last at Doomben tomorrow.

Race won't be a pushover, but she's fortunate that the main dangers have drawn off the track.

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« 2009-Mar-27, 09:53 AM Reply #49 »
Will be hard to beat dd but I can't understand the thinking  in substituting A.Taylor who has won all 3 starts on this horse for another apprentice in B.Evans.

I realise Amy has lost a kg of her claim but surely with the runs on board and experience with this horse there is no gain in replacing her other than 1kg.


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