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Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2018-Oct-20, 11:30 PM Reply #50 »
Final Result

Finish No. Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Starting Price
1 1 BEST SOLUTION (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor Pat Cosgrave
15 57.5kg 12
2 13 HOMESMAN (USA) Liam Howley Ben Melham 0.1L 4 53kg 9.5
3 2 THE CLIFFSOFMOHER (IRE) Aidan O'Brien Hugh Bowman 1.85L 3 56.5kg 6.5
4 8 DURETTO (GB) Andrew Balding Dwayne Dunn 2.85L 1 54.5kg 26
5 7 THE TAJ MAHAL (IRE) Liam Howley James McDonald 3.6L 17 55kg 16
6 14 KINGS WILL DREAM (IRE) Darren Weir Craig Williams 3.8L 5 53kg $5.50F
7 18 YOUNGSTAR Chris Waller Kerrin McEvoy 4.55L 9 51.5kg 7.5
8 16 GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) Darren Weir Dean Yendall 4.65L 2 52.5kg 18
9 10 VENGEUR MASQUE (IRE) Michael Moroney Patrick Moloney 4.75L 6 54kg 101
10 11 VENTURA STORM (IRE) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Regan Bayliss 5.5L 10 54kg 31
11 9 RED VERDON (USA) Ed Dunlop Zac Purton 6.5L 8 54kg 16
12 5 SOUND CHECK (GER) Michael Moroney Jordan Childs 10.25L 14 55.5kg 51
13 3 CHESTNUT COAT (JPN) Yoshito Yahagi Yuga Kawada 10.45L 11 55.5kg 26
14 15 SOLE IMPACT (JPN) Hirofumi Toda Ryusei Sakai(a) 11.2L 18 53kg 101
15 6 ACE HIGH David Payne Damien Oliver 11.4L 7 55kg 19
16 17 NIGHT’S WATCH (NZ) Darren Weir Ben Allen(a) 12.4L 16 52kg 18
17 12 MIGHTY BOSS Mick Price Tim Clark 13.9L 12 53.5kg 101
18 4 JON SNOW (NZ) Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman Damian Lane 14.65L 13 55.5kg 31

The winner was 5 deep going out of the straight the first time and to my eye appeared to be 3 deep until he made his move with The Taj Mahal. He carried the topweight and the win was nothing short of outstanding. If he gets 3200m he is in the Cup up to his ears. Penalty???

The "locals" Kings Will Dream and Youngstar ran 6th and 7th with light weights. Ratings wise they have been beaten 8.5 and 11 kgs respectively. Our best 2400m horses are a long way off the internationals that turned up so God knows where our stayers lie on the world stage.

The other three locals have been saved filling the last 3 places by Jon Snow which accentuates the quality problem we have with stayers.

You will be wasting your money backing any locals in the Cup IMO. No Prince Of Penzance to save us this year  :(


Offline firezuki

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« 2018-Oct-21, 04:25 AM Reply #51 »
We've bred for speed for how long?


They can't do it at both ends, kids. 

Offline Shogun Lodge

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« 2018-Oct-21, 07:56 AM Reply #52 »
There was no need for speed in that race. :no:
Not the first 1000 anyways  :lol:
Farce.
I would read bugger all into that race.

Online wily ole dog

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« 2018-Oct-21, 08:45 AM Reply #53 »
The run that has been missed is Red Verdon. Should have finished in the placings

Offline Gintara

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« 2018-Oct-21, 11:03 AM Reply #54 »

The winner was 5 deep going out of the straight the first time and to my eye appeared to be 3 deep until he made his move with The Taj Mahal. He carried the topweight and the win was nothing short of outstanding. If he gets 3200m he is in the Cup up to his ears. Penalty???

The "locals" Kings Will Dream and Youngstar ran 6th and 7th with light weights. Ratings wise they have been beaten 8.5 and 11 kgs respectively. Our best 2400m horses are a long way off the internationals that turned up so God knows where our stayers lie on the world stage.

The other three locals have been saved filling the last 3 places by Jon Snow which accentuates the quality problem we have with stayers.

You will be wasting your money backing any locals in the Cup IMO. No Prince Of Penzance to save us this year  :(

No doubt the winner was outstanding but they did walk, the jock won the race with his bold move to set them alight   emthup

I'm forgiving KWD - basically fell coming out of the gates and I though good navigating a path in the home straight

"Kings Will Dream (IRE) - knuckled at the start unbalancing rider Craig Williams. Was steadied to avoid the heels of the weakening Sole Impact (JPN) near the 500m. A post race veterinary examination revealed the gelding sustained a superficial laceration to its hear hind leg and a laceration to its off fore heel bulb and will require a veterinary clearance prior to racing again."

Youngstar was simply a victim of the pace and ran through the line well from the back, well in the MC imho.

Youngstar - over-raced in the early and middle stages. Rider Kerrin McEvoy stated his mount was not suited by the slow tempo of the race. A post race veterinary examination revealed the mare to have a slow recovery, had lost its off fore plate and had sustained a laceration to its off hind heel.

Offline Wenona

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« 2018-Oct-21, 01:24 PM Reply #55 »
Agreed, I'd be forgiving Youngstar ... quickest last 400 also ran the equal quickest last 1600 with Ventura Storm who I also wouldn't sack for the big one on that run.

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« 2018-Oct-22, 03:53 PM Reply #56 »
   Sorry about that.   
« Last Edit: 2018-Oct-23, 12:02 AM by pegasyber »

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2018-Oct-22, 08:15 PM Reply #57 »


Can the forum rules require using 'english' -- please?

Offline gunbower

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« 2018-Oct-22, 09:27 PM Reply #58 »
It is a rare day Mair- for once I agree with you. It also begs the question about why you would regurgitate information from a machine after an event . If it is useful at all , then surely it must be prior to an event. What possible use is it now ? None I would surmise.

Online wily ole dog

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« 2018-Oct-23, 06:14 AM Reply #59 »
Gun, peg posts before and after races as a rule. He’s time poor but likes to keep us informed as to how his system is going.

Personally, I like it  :thumbsup:

Offline Spudda028

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« 2018-Oct-24, 09:26 PM Reply #60 »
Pegs, what are you apologising for? Thanks for posting something of interest before the race that forumites are interested in.

The Clown that initially complained , his idea of form is to buy a newspaper & follow a media guys tips. He won't put in the effort to read your info. Keep posting pls I for one enjoy your efforts & am sure there are others.

Any danger of something positive at anytime clown boy? Any danger?

Online wily ole dog

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« 2018-Oct-25, 07:47 AM Reply #61 »
Keep em coming peg :thumbsup:


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