Author Topic: 2018 MELBOURNE CUP (Read 35006 times)

pegasyber · « 2018-Nov-08, 08:29 PM **Reply #225** »

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firezuki · « 2018-Nov-08, 11:22 PM **Reply #226** »

How can it identify that the winning horse was the fastest horse when they generally run

slower times over there? Actually almost always.

pegasyber · « 2018-Nov-09, 05:39 AM **Reply #227** »

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wily ole dog · « 2018-Nov-09, 07:09 AM **Reply #228** »

Quote from: pegasyber on 2018-Nov-05, 07:14 PM

When can we expect Peter's TIPS and reasoning?.

I note he ignored this but it was expected wasn’t it

pegasyber · « 2018-Nov-09, 07:27 PM **Reply #229** »

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firezuki · « 2018-Nov-10, 04:34 AM **Reply #230** »

I guess I'll stick to my way of picking them; staying up till five in the morning for three days

watching every video I could get of the condenders, checking weights and trying to cross thread

horses against at least one horse they might have raced against. And then the rain came.

I bloody earned it!

Peter Mair · « 2018-Nov-10, 07:41 AM **Reply #231** »

Why did RVL do it? -- a sober assessment of a toppled icon

Giving Cup to the world means its days of stopping the nation are over

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/giving-cup-to-the-world-means-its-days-of-stopping-the-nation-are-over-20181109-p50f1a.html

nemisis · « 2018-Nov-10, 09:24 AM **Reply #232** »

Quote from: Peter Mair on 2018-Nov-10, 07:41 AM

Why did RVL do it? -- a sober assessment of a toppled icon

Giving Cup to the world means its days of stopping the nation are over

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/giving-cup-to-the-world-means-its-days-of-stopping-the-nation-are-over-20181109-p50f1a.html

While Max Presnell would be considered a bit of a dinosaur by many, it is refreshing to read a racing article here in NSW with some degree of objectivity about it.

I put a line through Cross Counter solely on the 'bandages first time' gear change.

Just on your computer Peg, I wondered how it could rank the horses this year when the track conditions went from good, heavy and then slow in the space of 3 hours.
The times would suggest that the track never really got heavy and it probably was a pretty good surface for horses to race on by cup time.

Anyway that's my excuse for ignoring it.

Shogun Lodge · « 2018-Nov-10, 10:23 AM **Reply #233** »

Given the decent run of the topweight, after he missed kick badly, and the weights of the top 2, you would have to say the handicapper did a good job.
Superb efforts really, those top two...did not realise they were together nearly at the 400 m or so...saw the overhead and I have to say I thought it a great race.

pegasyber · « 2018-Nov-10, 10:16 PM **Reply #234** »

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fours · « 2018-Nov-11, 02:32 AM **Reply #235** »

firezuki · « 2018-Nov-11, 05:46 AM **Reply #236** »

What happened?

fours · « 2018-Nov-11, 09:56 AM **Reply #237** »

Firezuki,

Pegasyber resorted to the broken clock form guide approach.

Still better than most peoples efforts in the tipping comp mind you.

For the record the MC was a run of the mill result for class horses in a field of that size and peggies approach should do well with class emphasized rather than speed.

Fours

Peter Mair · « 2018-Nov-11, 09:21 PM **Reply #238** »

The Cup runneth under

Tradition of the Melbourne Cup needs Australians to stay relevant

If you put a picture of the Melbourne Cup finish on a white background and asked anyone in racing where the race was run, they would almost certainly say somewhere in Europe.

................ they have lost sight of what makes it great: Australian horses, trainers and jockeys.......the Cup's attempts to become an international powerhouse race are becoming a retrograde step for it.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/tradition-of-the-melbourne-cup-needs-australians-to-stay-relevant-20181111-p50fdm.html

specialweek2 · « 2018-Nov-11, 10:52 PM **Reply #239** »

Mentioned another thread but why has the camera blue not mentioned here?

firezuki · « 2018-Nov-12, 02:14 AM **Reply #240** »

Not sure what you mean? More specific?

wily ole dog · « 2018-Nov-12, 07:15 AM **Reply #241** »

Not 100% sure but I think he’s referring to the races being delayed because the photo finishe camera wasn’t working

firezuki · « 2018-Nov-12, 03:13 PM **Reply #242** »

Okay. Certainly first time I've heard about it.

tontonan · « 2018-Nov-12, 05:16 PM **Reply #243** »

The start of the Hotham or the Lexus or whatever the hell they call it these days was delayed by 8 minutes on Derby day after the start was aborted when it was discovered that the photo finish / digital timing system had failed due to a loss of a power and had to be rebooted. All horses were loaded and ready to go when the starter called a halt. Everyone was unloaded and reloaded and the the reboot was successful and away they went.

firezuki · « 2018-Nov-12, 07:02 PM **Reply #244** »

Probably wrong thread but I was amazed to see the price of an Irish Derby winner (Latrobe) in the MacKinnon.

I came across him whilst doing my research for the Cup - would have to go back and find where.

They had him $101 in the paper the day before - not sure what price he started but he paid $5.50 the place on Tabtouch

I forgot to back him on Friday night and didn't get up in time Saturday.

Was mighty pleased to read he got beaten in Sunday's paper; though not by much!

It seems most Aussies still don't understand that Europe's good stuff is bloody good.

Only Winx turned the tide back this carnival.

specialweek2 · « 2018-Nov-12, 09:22 PM **Reply #245** »

Quote from: firezuki on 2018-Nov-12, 02:14 AM

Not sure what you mean? More specific?

The back straight camera had large fogged patch in the middle of the lens. Surely the director saw it. Why not get the cameraman to wipe his lens.

firezuki · « 2018-Nov-13, 05:57 AM **Reply #246** »

I did see that on a replay but I thought it was only that replay.

Incredibly unprofessional.

wily ole dog · « 2018-Nov-13, 06:34 AM **Reply #247** »

Quote from: firezuki on 2018-Nov-12, 07:02 PM

Probably wrong thread but I was amazed to see the price of an Irish Derby winner (Latrobe) in the MacKinnon.

I came across him whilst doing my research for the Cup - would have to go back and find where.

They had him $101 in the paper the day before - not sure what price he started but he paid $5.50 the place on Tabtouch

I forgot to back him on Friday night and didn't get up in time Saturday.

Was mighty pleased to read he got beaten in Sunday's paper; though not by much!

It seems most Aussies still don't understand that Europe's good stuff is bloody good.

Only Winx turned the tide back this carnival.

Are you sure?

Latrobe was always short in the market. The $5.50 was his win sp not the place

nemisis · « 2018-Nov-13, 06:43 AM **Reply #248** »

The only $101 that was available for any horse in that race was for No 6 Octobello.....Latrobe was no 7

firezuki · « 2018-Nov-13, 02:23 PM **Reply #249** »

It must have been a misprint. I didn't think it could be right based on form.

I thought he must have lost a leg coming over or something.