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Offline PoisonPen7

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O.P. « 2018-Aug-05, 05:11 AM »


Tickets can be purchased through Tickitek and the VRC Web site

https://www.flemington.com.au/calendar/2018-11-06/lexus-melbourne-cup-day

Prizemoney for this year's race is a whopping $7.3 million
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« 2018-Aug-05, 05:21 AM Reply #1 »
Lexus are a new sponsor this year and have created a Gold Cup worth $200,000.

It is currently doing the tour round the country and will even be on show at the famous Louth Cup meeting (near Bourke) on August 11th

https://www.lexus.com.au/about-lexus/news/lexus-melbourne-cup-tour-destinations-announced

Just got back from the UK, Ireland and NZ.




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« 2018-Aug-05, 05:23 AM Reply #2 »
From The Wizard Of Odds newsletter

Tosen Basil, Admire Robson and Cassius are bound for the Darren Weir stable, while Happy Moment and Danon Roman will join fellow Japanese import Ambitious at Anthony Freedman's stable.

Cups contender Tosen Basil is the headline act having finished sixth in Japan's premier two-mile race, the Tenno Sho, at his last appearance. A lightly-raced six-year-old, he finished third to Highland Reel in the Group One Hong Kong Vase three starts back.

Happy Moment and sprinter-miler Cassius have raced exclusively in Group company in Japan over the past 12 months, while Admire Robson, who has been unplaced just once in nine starts, and Danon Roman show staying talent.

Waterhouse and Bott take over the training of Hush Writer hoping the northern hemisphere-bred three-year-old can emulate last year's Melbourne Cup winner Rekindling. Placed in all three starts in France, including last month's Group Two Prix Hocquart, Hush Writer is likely to begin his spring campaign in September.


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« 2018-Aug-25, 11:51 AM Reply #4 »
Who they have on their list.

Chestnut Coat
Count Octave
Cross Counter
Hamada
Latrobe
Magic Circle
Marmelo
Mirage Dancer
Prince Of Arran
Red Verdon
Sole Impact
Torcedor
Tosen Basil*
Thomas Hobson
Withhold

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« 2018-Aug-25, 12:55 PM Reply #5 »
Best of Days not in the list but is probably considered a local after having 1 run here already.
It wasnít in any markets so I rang beteasy for a price. They put it in at $51.
I was hoping for better given that they hadnít even considered it :mad:

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« 2018-Aug-25, 01:11 PM Reply #6 »
Best of Days not in the list but is probably considered a local after having 1 run here already.
It wasnít in any markets so I rang beteasy for a price. They put it in at $51.
I was hoping for better given that they hadnít even considered it :mad:

Caulfield Cup would be more his go.

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« 2018-Aug-26, 11:55 AM Reply #7 »
Key Dates

First Nominations Fee $1650 Tuesday (Midday) August 28
Late Nominations Fee $5500 Tuesday (Midday) September 4
Handicaps Declared
Tuesday (Midday) September 11
First Declarations Fee $2640 Tuesday (Midday) October 9
Second Declarations Fee $4620 Monday (10am) October 29
Final Declarations Fee $49,500 Saturday (4.30pm) November 3

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« 2018-Aug-26, 11:56 AM Reply #8 »
Not cheap.

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« 2018-Aug-26, 11:58 AM Reply #9 »
Not cheap.

I think the Derby Winner fee is significantly higher???

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« 2018-Aug-26, 12:02 PM Reply #10 »
Have got 3 Cups markets into a program and doing some scouting around for anomalies before the final noms closed - at which point I think the markets will start to look a lot the same.

Have taken the markets of TABCorp (via Tatts), Ladbrokes and Sportsbet.

First calculation I did threw up a surprise - happy to be corrected if not accurate:

Ladbrokes Market = 282.84%
TABCorp Market   = 286.79%
Sportsbet Market = 239.92%


That is a significant difference if right.

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« 2018-Aug-29, 07:53 PM Reply #11 »
Yeah 280% is in the f***ing bastards range while 230% is only in the bastards range.   :biggrin:

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« 2018-Aug-29, 09:24 PM Reply #12 »
 230% is too bad at this stage . .

Cut them a bit of slack . . they are trying to provide a service, but are also running a business

My guess is that the 'tough money' would far outweigh the 'chaff' atm



If you don't like the prices . . vote with your feet

And I am no apologist for the corps

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« 2018-Sep-12, 02:48 AM Reply #15 »
Horse Ladbrokes TAB
Magic Circle 13.00 14
Torcedor 13.00 14
Chestnut Coat 15.00 26
Kings Will Dream 15.00 10
Best Solution 21.00 26
Count Octave 21.00 26
Hamada 21.00 21
Muntahaa 21.00 21
Tosen Basil 21.00 26
Withhold 21.00 17
Cross Counter 26.00 17
Marmelo 26.00 26
Ace High 31.00 26
Big Duke 31.00 51
Weekender 31.00 26
Ambitious 41.00 51
Auvray 41.00 51
Avilius 41.00 26
Bonneval 41.00 101
Cliffs Of Moher 41.00 26
Comin' Through 41.00 201
Deauville 41.00 51
Duretto 41.00 51
Emotionless 41.00 51
Finche 41.00 51
Grunt 41.00 51
Harlem 41.00 101
Homesman 41.00 34
Humidor 41.00 51
Idaho 41.00 101
Lancaster Bomber 41.00 51
Our Venice Beach 41.00 26
Red Cardinal 41.00 51
Red Verdon 41.00 101
Sound Check 41.00 26
The Taj Mahal 41.00 51
Vengeur Masque 41.00 51
Ventura Storm 41.00 51
Who Shot Thebarman 41.00 51
Yogi 41.00 34

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« 2018-Sep-13, 01:50 PM Reply #16 »
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« 2018-Sep-13, 02:11 PM Reply #17 »
1   0x4184x81x   HUMIDOR (NZ)   G   6   Darren Weir   1   58kg
2   x3195x111x   BEST SOLUTION (IRE)   H   5   Saeed Bin Suroor   2   57.5kg
3   41x329113x   KEW GARDENS (IRE)   H   4   Aidan O'Brien   3   53kg
4   5x22x0132x   TORCEDOR (IRE)   G   7   Andreas Wohler   4   57kg
5   x55462x02x   ACE HIGH   H   4   David Payne   5   55kg
6   78x512433x   CLIFFS OF MOHER (IRE)   H   5   Aidan O'Brien   6   56.5kg
7   2x22117x           LATROBE (IRE)   H   4   Joseph O'Brien   7   52kg
8   45x814533x   IDAHO (IRE)   H   6   Aidan O'Brien   8   56kg
9   111x1160x9   BONNEVAL (NZ)   M   5   Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman   9   54.5kg
10   57x150x11x   MAGIC CIRCLE (IRE)   G   7   Ian Williams   10   56kg
11   4491x6731x   WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ)   G   10   Chris Waller   11   55.5kg
12   1x68139x4x   JON SNOW (NZ)   H   5   Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman   12   55.5kg
13   8x72x3x56x   TOSEN BASIL (JPN)   H   7   Darren Weir   13   55.5kg
14   1x0121x61x   UNFORGOTTEN   M   4   Chris Waller   14   52.5kg
15   1796x4341x   MUNTAHAA (IRE)   G   6   John Gosden   15   55.5kg
16   15x211250x   CHESTNUT COAT (JPN)   H   5   Yoshito Yahagi   16   55.5kg
17   x0x92834x6   AMBITIOUS (JPN)   H   7   Anthony Freedman   17   55.5kg
18   2144x1132x   SOUND CHECK (GER)   H   6   Michael Moroney   18   55.5kg
19   13x419225x   ROSTROPOVICH (IRE)   H   4   Aidan O'Brien   19   51kg
20   35x463144x   VIN DE DANCE (NZ)   G   4   Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman   20   53.5kg
21   1x69x2112x   MARMELO (GB)   H   6   Hughie Morrison   21   55kg
22   11x24112x   CROSS COUNTER (GB)   G   4   Charlie Appleby   22   51kg
23   25041x8x7x   THE TAJ MAHAL (IRE)   H   5   Liam Howley   23   55kg
24   x22x132x2x   WEEKENDER (GB)   H   5   John Gosden   24   55kg
25   151x35011x   FLAG OF HONOUR (IRE)   H   4   Aidan O'Brien   25   51kg
26   7x623x2x1x   EMOTIONLESS (IRE)   G   6   Charlie Appleby   26   55kg
27   0x22525x0x   SINGLE GAZE   M   6   Chris Waller   27   53kg
28   x311113x6x   YOUNGSTAR   M   4   Chris Waller   28   51.5kg
29   x400521x5x   EGG TART   M   5   Chris Waller   29   53kg
30   45221x111x   MATERIAL MAN   G   7   Justin Warwick   30   54.5kg
31   343x312x60   HIYAAM (NZ)   M   4   Mick Price   31   51.5kg
32   3x15x5331x   DURETTO (GB)   G   7   Andrew Balding   32   54.5kg
33   112x332x7x   POUNAMU   G   7   Alan Mathews   33   54.5kg
34   021443x00x   BIG DUKE (IRE)   G   7   Darren Weir   34   54kg
35   36x004707x   MAX DYNAMITE (FR)   G   9   William Mullins   35   54kg
36   8121x05x4x   VENGEUR MASQUE (IRE)   G   7   Michael Moroney   36   54kg
37   x11x5x0x08   RED CARDINAL (IRE)   G   7   Darren Weir   37   54kg
38   219x32964x   DESERT SKYLINE (IRE)   G   5   David Elsworth   38   54kg
39   1x1422225x   RED VERDON (USA)   H   6   Ed Dunlop   39   54kg
40   7x56164x5x   AUVRAY (FR)   G   8   Richard Freedman   40   54kg
41   26x1353x2x   COUNT OCTAVE (GB)   H   5   Andrew Balding   41   54kg
42   313x655x1x   FINCHE (GB)   H   5   Chris Waller   42   54kg
43   x437829x7x   VENTURA STORM (IRE)   G   6   David & B Hayes & T Dabernig   43   54kg
44   x70x47x25x   TIBERIAN (FR)   H   7   Alain Couetil   44   53.5kg
45   321x1111x   HAMADA (GB)   G   5   Charlie Appleby   45   53.5kg
46   5158402x0x   ZACADA (NZ)   G   6   Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman   46   53kg
47   314513x01x   SIR CHARLES ROAD   G   5   Lance O'Sullivan & Andrew Scott   47   53kg
48   x1x5x0057x   NAKEETA (GB)   G   8   Iain Jardine   48   53kg
49   2121x31x1x   WITHHOLD (GB)   G   6   Roger Charlton   49   53kg
50   732x03705x   SOLE IMPACT (JPN)   H   7   Hirofumi Toda   50   53kg

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« 2018-Sep-13, 02:17 PM Reply #18 »
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Sorry, I thought I was modifying my own post that came out all strange.  :mad:

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« 2018-Sep-13, 06:13 PM Reply #19 »
Hamada for me. :x:

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« 2018-Sep-17, 06:18 PM Reply #20 »
Flag Of Honour trained by Aiden O'Brien won the Irish St Leger over the weekend very well and is now $17 for the Cup. Latrobe (2nd) is at $26. 3rd horse Weekender is $51. Idaho was thrashed and he is now out to $51.

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« 2018-Sep-17, 09:31 PM Reply #21 »


Ignore it

This 'iconic event' now has all the hallmarks of a racket exploiting emotional attachments of the community.

... do not go near it ever again!


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