PP Alligator Blood, Flit and Brandenburg only beat other 3 year olds.......not sure that qualifies as proof of anything, it happens every year.......if they didn’t win, another 3 year old would have!
For proof of a generational quality assessment, shouldn’t they need to beat another generation?
I've been saying that for a while Dave, but mainly when warning people that they should be very careful when assessing 3YOs running in open company for the first time.
Take Bivouac as an example.
Had only beaten it's age peers (2YO and 3YO) at set weights. Gets 55.5 kg in the Oakleigh Plate!! Surely it should have been on, or close to, the limit?
Starspangledbanner was the last 3YO to win the Oakleigh Plate. He went into the race with the limit weight
, and was the current Caulfield Guineas champion - as well as winning the Vain and the McNeil and being placed a couple of times at Group level.
The great Weekend Hussler (some may argue he wasn't so great because of Equine Influenza but let's move on) was the Caulfield Guineas champion and won the Oakleigh Plate as a 3YO with 2 kg above the limit.
Snitzel won easily in the Oakleigh Plate in the wet on the limit weight as a 3YO - Takeover Target, Miss Andretti and Stratum in the beaten brigade.
The year before, Fastnet Rock got 4.5 kg above the limit as a 3YO having won the Lightning and won a 10 horse Oakleigh Plate.Bivouac received 5.5 kg above the limit!
Had a very, very similar record to Starspangledbanner (G1 Golden Rose v G1 Caulfield Guineas, both won the Vain and another listed race). His record was inferior to Weekend Hussler IMO.
Bivouac ran a nice race actually but if he had won it would have been a miracle performance if it carried 5.5 kg above the limit as a 3YO and won a Group 1 handicap. The alarm bells were ringing before the race.
(I think the handicapper should be made to "show cause" why he shouldn't be sacked - but we all know that aint gonna happen