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Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2020-Mar-20, 06:25 PM Reply #100 »
NZ 3YOs appear to be here Jeunes.

Tomorrow is one of the Autumn flagship races for 3YOs - the Rosehill Guineas.

A lot in our list appear here

No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Hcp Rating
1 31x4722x68 CASTELVECCHIO Richard Litt Craig Williams 5 56.5kg 107
2 14x3115x51 SHADOW HERO Mark Newnham Joshua Parr 8 56.5kg 107
3 4x34121x75 WARNING Anthony Freedman Damien Oliver 1 56.5kg 103
4 7x15134131 SHERWOOD FOREST Tony Pike Michael Walker 13 56.5kg
5 5763111323 SCORPZ (NZ) Stephen Marsh Opie Bosson 2 56.5kg
6 5311x68x07 PRINCE FAWAZ Anthony Cummings Adam Hyeronimus 9 56.5kg 94
7 123x824 RELOADED Chris Waller James McDonald 3 56.5kg 94
8 53x3121x40 PANCHO Chris Waller Tommy Berry 4 56.5kg 87
9 01141x506 THE HOLY ONE (NZ) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young Nash Rawiller 11 56.5kg 87
10 12x34 CHENIER Anthony Freedman Kerrin McEvoy 12 56.5kg
11 17x11x9 CHAINS OF HONOUR Gerald Ryan Mark Zahra 6 56.5kg 76
12 112 GET THE IDEA John Sargent Ms Rachel King 7 56.5kg 67
13 412 IMPACTFUL Chris Waller Brenton Avdulla 10 56.5kg 66

In the Ryder, the 3yo crop is represented by Super Seth, Brandenburg and the unheralded Spend.

Anaheed and Cosmic Force run in the Galaxy.

Tonight Bivouac and Loving Gaby go around in the William Reid.

We will know much more about the 3YO crop after this weekend's racing. Can't wait for the Guineas.

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« 2020-Mar-20, 08:10 PM Reply #101 »
Loving Gaby was very impressive.  2 Open G1s now.

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« 2020-Mar-20, 09:07 PM Reply #102 »
I am surprised with the NZ horses being here with the quarantines etc. Either they have been here awhile or their regular strippers / trainers not around.

The horses do add a bit of colour to the Guineas. Warning warmed up late in the Guineas while Shadow Hero looked good winning. Chennier and Castlevecchio plus a couple of Waller runners are intriguing at the odds.

Loving Gaby looked good today while Bivouac was disappointing.

Brandenburg is the surprise packet and the evergreen Happy Clapper can a run at odds if there is a soft lead for Dreamforce.

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« 2020-Mar-20, 09:54 PM Reply #103 »
Tonight Exceedance was very disappointing; it looks like he is well off his Spring form.  That form was so good that it may be worthwhile giving the colt one more chance this Autumn.

Bivouac probably would have done better if he had not tried to win the race at both ends.

Loving Gaby appears to be a really, really good filly, one of the best of this century to date.


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« 2020-Mar-21, 07:08 AM Reply #104 »
Certainly not the way to ride Bivouac but Gabby was magnificent being ridden forward

Hope she comes back in the spring and no5 the breeding barn

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« 2020-Mar-22, 05:47 AM Reply #105 »
Have updated the OP


Current G1 winners

Alligator Blood - Australian Guineas.
Shadow Hero - Randwick Guineas and Spring Champion
Sherwood Forest - NZ Derby
Jennifer Eccles - NZ Oaks
Probabeel - Surround Stks
Catelvecchio - Rosehill Guineas

From last spring

Funstar - Flight Stks
Super Seth - Caulfield Guineas
Flit - Thousand Guineas
Warning - VRC Derby
Miami Bound - VRC Oaks
Exceedance - Coolmore Classic

3yo Winners in Open G1


Alabama Express - Orr Stks
Loving Gaby - Manikato Stks and William Reid Stks
Bivouac - Newmarket Hcp


Updated Loving Gaby and added Castelvecchio

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« 2020-Mar-22, 06:01 AM Reply #106 »
A 1200m Free Handicap, I'd have to have Loving Gaby on top - when expressed in kg above WFA.

Alligator Blood v Loving Gaby over 1200m would be a good hypothetical race but AB doesn't really have the 1200m runs on the board. His four reference runs would be the Guineas Prelude win, his 2nd to Super Seth in the Guineas and his wins in the Hayes and the Australian Guineas - none of which is over 1200m. Bivouac would probably be the main contender for a 1200m free handicap.

1600m you have Super Seth, Shadow Hero, Alligator Blood, Funstar and Flit winning Group 1s.

Drop Flit, and I don't see enough evidence to differentiate between the other 4.

After today I would have Castelvecchio equal on top for a 2000m race with Shadow Hero. Even though the latter has beaten the former twice in Group 1's, the Rosehill Guineas win makes it 2-1 and there was the Cox Plate placing behind the champion Japanese horse.

Getting out to 2400m we will know more in a couple of weeks time. At this point of time the two NZ classic winners and two VRC classic winners have the runs on the board.

Today's track was extremely disappointing given the flagrant track bias.


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