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Offline Jeunes

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« 2019-Oct-31, 08:41 PM Reply #50 »
A few more out with Raheeb House and Angel of Truth.

It seems now at least 3 more horses will be scratched for Saturday’s Hotham with all the withdrawals from the MC field as they are now qualified.

Showers too forecast for the weekend but not Cup Day.




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« 2019-Oct-31, 08:50 PM Reply #51 »
Well that brings True Self down to #26   :x:

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« 2019-Nov-01, 12:55 AM Reply #52 »
Actually Napes it is more about right wing Hypocrisy and idolising the mighty Dollar over everything else.........more than knee jerk reacting to Lefty whingers!.....Whether you agree with them or not the lefty whingers are genuine in their love for the animals and I am 100% in agreement with their cause......
conversely Right Wingers are only worried about protecting their own arse something that I can't stand, at least they should say who they are, don't hide behind the pretense of being an animal lover.....when all they really are are money lovers......not that there is anything wrong with loving money.....but come out of the closet and claim the prize............don't be hypocrites was my point!

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« 2019-Nov-01, 08:00 AM Reply #53 »
Flemington is a brutal track for thoroughbreds when it is firm.

With showers forecast on Saturday it will be tricky for the track manager.
The new track policy states that the track must be prepared with give even if rain is forecast.
It also states that the track manager can't be criticised for adhering to the policy.

Makybe Diva Stakes 2018 was a day when rain was forecast and never arrived and the carnage from that day was a disgrace.

So many good horses completely buggered and many never the same.

While not on that day the Belgravia breakdown was the worst I have ever seen on any track......certainly not something first timers would ever want to witness.
« Last Edit: 2019-Nov-01, 08:02 AM by nemisis »

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« 2019-Nov-01, 04:23 PM Reply #54 »
No right of appeal on Marmelo's scratching but connections are considering claims for compensation would be a long shot even allowing for different opinions on the horse's condition the UK vet v the OZ team .....strange that RV is only submitting visitors from Europe to the CT scan why exempt Aussie runners RV hasn't explained their reasoning for testing one lot but not the other.
CM story today
"THE owners of 2018 Melbourne Cup runner-up Marmelo will pursue legal action against Racing Victoria, claiming they have been wrongly denied a start this year.
Victorian businessman Ozzie Kheir said yesterday that he and fellow owners Johnny O’Neill, Victor Kheir and Phil Mehrten believed RV had not “properly followed process” when scratching the horse from Tuesday’s $8 million race.
“We’ve had legal advice that there are no avenues of appeal to have Marmelo reinstated in the Melbourne Cup,” Kheir said.
“But we will be seeking advice on pursuing Racing Victoria for damages.
“We believe the process has not been properly followed.”
Marmelo and Godolphin’s Ispolini were scratched on veterinary advice after RV claimed CT scans showed they had significant injury concerns.
RV said the results of Marmelo’s scan indicated “an incomplete fracture of the near fore cannon bone and an incomplete fracture in its off hind cannon bone”.
It is uncertain on what grounds Marmelo’s owners would pursue damages against RV, but the combined expense of flying the horse to Australia with a groom, training and feeding would exceed $100,000.
A $14 chance with Ladbrokes before his elimination, Marmelo earned $1 million for running second to Cross Counter in last year’s Cup.
Kheir said he would approach Victorian Racing Minister Martin Pakula and the state Ombudsman to seek “a full investigation over the processes that have occurred”.
“We want an investigation into the actions of Jamie Stier (RV head of integrity), Robert Cram (chairman of stewards) and Grace Forbes (RV vet),” Kheir said.
“I do not want any other trainer or owner to go through what we have.
“RV is using a new CT scan with no data, no research and a horse that has nothing wrong with it is out of the Melbourne Cup.
“We have advice from a world-renowned guru, an expert in the field (Dr Ian Wright) who says the horse is fit to take his place in the field.”
In a scathing attack, Morrison said connections had been “hoodwinked” and a Group 1 opportunity had been “stolen from Marmelo.”
“We’ve been hoodwinked here,” he said.
“We’ve been brought here under false pretences.
“We think the interpretation from (University of Melbourne’s) Dr Whitton or maybe Grace Forbes, who I didn’t know was a CT expert, is incorrect. It cost us all a huge amount of money and effort.
“Marmelo is a magnificent horse, we love him and we would do nothing to harm him.”
Stier was unmoved in the face of criticism from Morrison and said on all the information available, officials concluded the “risk profile” of the horses demanded they be scratched.
“We believe these horses don’t pass the risk test we are putting place for this year’s race,” he said.
Stewards said the decision to withdraw both horses was made to “ensure the safety and wellbeing” of all horses and riders in the race.
The orders came as Saeed bin Suroor’s veteran Red Galileo faces an uncertain future with a leg fracture sustained in trackwork on Wednesday.
Internationals Red Verdon and Gold Mount were last week ruled out through injury."

ENDS

Whatever happened to the Macedon Lodge Lloyd Williams case a couple of years ago when LLoyd threatened legal action after one of his Cup candidates was ruled unsound.

Giddy Up :beer:



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« 2019-Nov-01, 04:36 PM Reply #55 »
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/horse-racing/lloyd-williams-settles-amralah-damages-case-against-vet/news-story/d78c315f842efa9cd2b994cd7fc8a301

Hopefully this won't come up behind a paywall.

I'm certain you are talking about Amralah.......Quietly settled.

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« 2019-Nov-01, 04:39 PM Reply #56 »
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/horse-racing/lloyd-williams-settles-amralah-damages-case-against-vet/news-story/d78c315f842efa9cd2b994cd7fc8a301

Hopefully this won't come up behind a paywall.

I'm certain you are talking about Amralah.......Quietly settled.

Thanks nemisis for that but no details of the settlement I found the original post but no follow up.

http://www.racehorsetalk.com.au/vic-gallops/williams-sues-vet/msg588731/#msg588731

Giddy Up :beer:


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« 2019-Nov-01, 06:08 PM Reply #57 »

This youtube clip seems to have disappeared.

Maybe some legal action?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRi5Y34xrjE
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« 2019-Nov-03, 02:29 AM Reply #58 »
Race 7 - 3:00PM Lexus Melbourne Cup (3200 METRES)

Of $7,750,000.1st $4,400,000, 2nd $1,100,000, 3rd $550,000, 4th $350,000, 5th $230,000, 6th $160,000, 7th $160,000, 8th $160,000, 9th $160,000, 10th $160,000, 11th $160,000, 12th $160,000

Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 1
Handicap, Minimum Weight 49kg, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 12x1x1x434 CROSS COUNTER (GB) Charlie Appleby William Buick 5 57.5kg
2 211x11x1x1 MER DE GLACE (JPN) Hisashi Shimizu Damian Lane 2 56kg
3 7250x14335 MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) Joseph O'Brien Frankie Dettori 1 55.5kg
4 2x0x1322x3 MIRAGE DANCER (GB) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young Ben Melham 13 55.5kg
5 37x3264413 SOUTHERN FRANCE (IRE) Ciaron Maher & David Eustace Mark Zahra 14 55.5kg
6 3344465881 HUNTING HORN (IRE) Aidan O'Brien Seamie Heffernan 11 55kg
7 220x344216 LATROBE (IRE) Joseph O'Brien James McDonald 22 55kg
8 4x1x723516 MUSTAJEER (GB) Kris Lees Damien Oliver 6 55kg
9 251557x790 ROSTROPOVICH (IRE) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Dwayne Dunn 12 55kg
10 423x2411x7 TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) Joseph O'Brien Hugh Bowman 19 55kg
11 x1x34x5125 FINCHE (GB) Chris Waller Kerrin McEvoy 4 54kg
12 8x49x58321 PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB) Charlie Fellowes Michael Walker 8 54kg
13 1x6x237x4x RAYMOND TUSK (IRE) Richard Hannon Jamie Spencer 3 54kg
14 x196112x31 DOWNDRAFT (IRE) Joseph O'Brien John Allen 15 53.5kg
15 2x53220224 MAGIC WAND (IRE) Aidan O'Brien Ryan Moore 24 53.5kg
16 2x30x80709 NEUFBOSC (FR) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Luke Nolen 23 53.5kg
17 00x048x070 SOUND (GER) Michael Moroney James Winks 10 53.5kg
18 1514132x41 SURPRISE BABY (NZ) Paul Preusker Jordan Childs 20 53.5kg
19 531x212224 CONSTANTINOPLE (IRE) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Joao Moreira 7 52.5kg
20 322x17135 IL PARADISO (USA) Aidan O'Brien Wayne Lordan 17 52.5kg
21 x11111x467 STEEL PRINCE (IRE) Anthony Freedman Brett Prebble 16 52.5kg
22 0141x59195 THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman Tim Clark 18 52kg
23 1x36621x42 VOW AND DECLARE Danny O'Brien Craig Williams 21 52kg
24 x059x87873 YOUNGSTAR Chris Waller Tommy Berry 9 52kg

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« 2019-Nov-03, 02:48 AM Reply #59 »
Six of last year's runners backing up and the weight differences.

You'd have to say that Prince Of Arran, Finche and Youngstar were close enough to be considered a chance given their relative weight advantage over Cross Counter - 1 kg = 1 length over these sorts of distances.

Finish No Horse Margin Bar. Weight Starting Price Weight This Year Difference
1 23 CROSS COUNTER
19 51 9 57.5 6.5
2 9 MARMELO 1L 10 3 12

3 17 PRINCE OF ARRAN 3L 20 53 21 54 1
4 13 FINCHE 3.5L 15 54 26 54 0
5 24 ROSTROPOVICH 4.5L 21 51 21 55 4
6 22 YOUNGSTAR 5.75L 8 51.5 11 52 0.5
7 19 SIR CHARLES ROAD 8.25L 14 53kg 101

8 1 BEST SOLUTION 8.75L 6 57.5kg 16

9 5 MUNTAHAA 9.5L 13 55.5kg 17

10 16 VENTURA STORM 11L 7 54kg (cd 54.5kg) 31

11 11 YUCATAN 11.75L 23 54.5kg 6

12 18 NAKEETA 11.85L 3 53kg 81

13 20 ZACADA 13.85L 24 53kg 101

14 4 CHESTNUT COAT 16.1L 4 55.5kg 71

15 15 VENGEUR MASQUE 16.3L 2 54kg 51

16 3 MAGIC CIRCLE 19.55L 17 56kg 7

17 7 WHO SHOT THEBARMAN 22.55L 18 55.5kg 31

18 6 SOUND 27.55L 16 55.5 41 53.5 -2
19 21 RUNAWAY 28.05L 12 52kg 41

20 8 ACE HIGH 28.15L 22 55kg 71

21 12 AUVRAY 68.15L 1 54kg 81

22 10 AVILIUS 69.15L 11 54.5kg 16

23 14 RED CARDINAL 69.55L 5 54kg 31

FF 2 THE CLIFFSOFMOHER 0L 9 56.5kg 21


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« 2019-Nov-03, 07:44 AM Reply #60 »
There were only two horses in the last 20 years who won a cup after backing up from previous year when they did not win.

Brew and Fiorente were the ones.

Makybe Diva won 3 so 2 from backing up.

Thus only 4 Cups were won from horses backing up after running in a previous years cup.

The runners from last year backing up are listed below.

Cross Counter
Finche
Prince of Arran
Youngstar
Rostropovich

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« 2019-Nov-03, 07:49 AM Reply #61 »
Only 4 horses won the CC and MC double in last 30 years.

Ethereal, Might and Power, Doreimus and Lets Elope. They were all very good horses.

Most others backing up did not even finish in top 3.

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« 2019-Nov-03, 07:56 AM Reply #62 »
I've looked at the form and tried to get all the relevant races out.

The below has taken the weight carried and the distance beaten, then accounted for the weights they will carry on Tuesday.

The final figure, "lengths", is the number of lengths that the horses will (predictably) finish on Tuesday relative to the other horses in each reference race.

Based on 1kg per length for staying races of 2800m or more, and 1.5kg per length for the Caulfield Cup.


Lengths
2018 Melbourne Cup
FINCHE 0.00
PRINCE OF ARRAN 0.50
YOUNGSTAR 2.25
CROSS COUNTER 2.50
ROSTROPOVICH 4.50


Caulfield Cup
MER DE GLACE 0.00
VOW AND DECLARE 0.25
MIRAGE DANCER 0.45
CONSTANTINOPLE 0.65
FINCHE 0.85
MUSTAJEER 1.05
THE CHOSEN ONE 3.00
SOUND 3.25
ROSTROPOVICH 6.35


Vintage Crop (2800m)
MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) 0.70
MUSTAJEER (GB) 0.00
SOUTHERN FRANCE (IRE) 2.00
TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) 2.90


Irish St Leger (2800m)
SOUTHERN FRANCE (IRE) 0.00
CROSS COUNTER (GB) 2.20
MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) 2.50
LATROBE (IRE) 3.75
TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) 5.80


Curragh Cup (2800m)
TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) 0.00
LATROBE (IRE) 0.30
SOUTHERN FRANCE (IRE) 2.80
MUSTAJEER (GB) 3.75


Irish St Leger Trial (2800m)
SOUTHERN FRANCE (IRE) 0.00
DOWNDRAFT (IRE) 0.00
MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) 3.00


Moonee Valley Cup
HUNTING HORN (IRE) 0.00
DOWNDRAFT (IRE) 1.00


Ebor Hcp (2800m)
MUSTAJEER (GB) 0.50
RAYMOND TUSK (IRE) 0.00
PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB) 3.30


Levmoss Stakes
TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) 0.00
MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) 5.30

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« 2019-Nov-03, 07:59 AM Reply #63 »
What’s gone wrong with Rostropovich?

Any reports?

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« 2019-Nov-03, 08:06 AM Reply #64 »
Some observations when doing the form:

i) There are a clump of Irish horses whom I refer to as "The Europeans" who all seem to be weighted similarly and seem to take turns in winning. Any of The Europeans could win the race if things go their way on race day.

ii) Two horses, Hunting Horn and Magic Wand, seem to have been running around in a lot stronger races than The Europeans. They often run in international Group 1 races and a lot of the form had Enable winning the race.

iii) The Japanese horse Mer De Glace has an undeniable chance but at $6.50 all the value has been sucked out.

iv) Finche, Prince Of Arran and Youngstar are weighted to provide an opportunity to reverse the result on Cross Counter from last year.

Forced to go 1-2-3-4-5 at this stage I'd go:

Mer De Glace
Hunting Horn
Finche
Magic Wand
Youngstar

Noted that Chris Waller is winning anything and everything at the moment and his two charges, Finche and Youngstar, seem to be in the race with a good chance.

I like Youngstar's prep. This time last year she was having her 5th campaign run in The Cup (6th). This time around he has given her one more run and wondering if Waller has changed her prep a little to get her to peak on Cup day. $51 appeals for some sort of saver.

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« 2019-Nov-03, 08:11 AM Reply #65 »
Using an imprecise rating system (0, 1, 2, 3 or 4 stars) and converting that into a value price (adding 50% for error) I came up with 5 value chances on Tuesday.

Still think Mer De Glace will win but you never know. I've kinda "potted" Cross Counter and Constantinople so might end up in the doghouse if one of those two wins.

No Last 10 Horse Rating Win Chance Odds Required Current Odds Value Value Quant
1 12x1x1x434 CROSS COUNTER (GB) 1 2.70% $55.50 $13.00 NO
2 211x11x1x1 MER DE GLACE (JPN) 4 10.81% $13.88 $6.50 NO
3 7250x14335 MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) 2 5.41% $27.75 $17.00 NO
4 2x0x1322x3 MIRAGE DANCER (GB) 1 2.70% $55.50 $34.00 NO
5 37x3264413 SOUTHERN FRANCE (IRE) 2 5.41% $27.75 $26.00 NO
6 3344465881 HUNTING HORN (IRE) 4 10.81% $13.88 $34.00 YES 245.05%
7 220x344216 LATROBE (IRE) 1 2.70% $55.50 $26.00 NO
8 4x1x723516 MUSTAJEER (GB) 2 5.41% $27.75 $17.00 NO
9 251557x790 ROSTROPOVICH (IRE) 0 0.00%
$67.00

10 423x2411x7 TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) 1 2.70% $55.50 $81.00 YES 145.95%
11 x1x34x5125 FINCHE (GB) 3 8.11% $18.50 $10.00 NO
12 8x49x58321 PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB) 2 5.41% $27.75 $21.00 NO
13 1x6x237x4x RAYMOND TUSK (IRE) 1 2.70% $55.50 $15.00 NO
14 x196112x31 DOWNDRAFT (IRE) 2 5.41% $27.75 $17.00 NO
15 2x53220224 MAGIC WAND (IRE) 3 8.11% $18.50 $26.00 YES 140.54%
16 2x30x80709 NEUFBOSC (FR) 0 0.00%
$201.00

17 00x048x070 SOUND (GER) 0 0.00%
$101.00

18 1514132x41 SURPRISE BABY (NZ) 0 0.00%
$15.00

19 531x212224 CONSTANTINOPLE (IRE) 1 2.70% $55.50 $8.00 NO
20 322x17135 IL PARADISO (USA) 1 2.70% $55.50 $15.00 NO
21 x11111x467 STEEL PRINCE (IRE) 0 0.00%
$67.00

22 0141x59195 THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) 1 2.70% $55.50 $101.00 YES 181.98%
23 1x36621x42 VOW AND DECLARE 2 5.41% $27.75 $11.00 NO
24 x059x87873 YOUNGSTAR 3 8.11% $18.50 $51.00 YES 275.68%

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« 2019-Nov-03, 08:14 AM Reply #66 »
When assessing the weights from last years Cup I think you need to remember Cross Counter was in fact 3yo and in theory you would expect about 3kg of age improvement over the last 12 months. This expected improvement seems to be confirmed by his ratings in his two runs against Stradivarius.

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« 2019-Nov-03, 08:20 AM Reply #67 »
I'd be interested in the opinion of our regular European racing experts - Magic Wand looks a serious doubt at the 3200 to me.

I though Raymond Tusk's Ebor run was fantastic after going back from a wide draw and the European commentators I've heard describe him as having a bit of class and a turn of foot. Drawn 3 here.

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« 2019-Nov-03, 08:52 AM Reply #68 »
People,

We know the Japs are lengths superior - even to the European horses.

Makes a stand out selection rather easy.

Remember some years back 2 2nd raters from Japan streeted the field and ran the quinella - several days daylight 3rd.

Fours
ps a helping hand in firezuki's absence. My contribution is not to forget variance and allow for bad luck, overseas jockeys deliberately breaking the rules before a holiday they were taking anyway etc etc so by allmeans save with your other pick

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« 2019-Nov-03, 03:28 PM Reply #69 »
When assessing the weights from last years Cup I think you need to remember Cross Counter was in fact 3yo and in theory you would expect about 3kg of age improvement over the last 12 months. This expected improvement seems to be confirmed by his ratings in his two runs against Stradivarius.


I think he’s a good thing :thumbsup:

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« 2019-Nov-03, 03:30 PM Reply #70 »
Raymond Tusk was my early pick but he’s always been too short for me.
Hoping to get better odds on the day

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« 2019-Nov-03, 03:48 PM Reply #71 »
I had a little snip at the $81 Twilight Payment earlier today. Noticed it came into $67 an hour later and is now into $51.
 

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« 2019-Nov-03, 04:42 PM Reply #72 »
100%   
MarketRequiredNoRatingHorse
$20.00 $7.12 1359.2Raymond Tusk
$8.10 $9.10 258.2Mer De Glace
$17.75 $9.77 1858.4Surprise Baby
$9.20 $11.71 1957.5Constantinople
$20.50 $14.21 1257.5Prince Of Arran
$11.70 $17.07 1156.5Finche
$23.50 $18.54 1456.8Downdraft
$16.00 $18.97 156.5Cross Counter
$13.75 $19.56 2356.2Vow And Declare
$19.50 $22.34 856.1Mustajeer
$24.00 $22.57 556.3Southern France
$15.30 $22.66 2055.8Il Paradiso
$45.00 $35.64 455.3Mirage Dancer
$28.50 $50.76 353.7Master Of Reality
$68.00 $57.21 1054.2Twilight Payment
$33.00 $64.09 753.1Latrobe
$30.50 $71.19 1552.1Magic Wand
$51.00 $82.05 652.8Hunting Horn
$125.00 $105.03 2252.9The Chosen One
$49.00 $114.36 2451.3Youngstar
$87.50 $133.42 2151.8Steel Prince
$110.00 $256.74 947.4Rostropovich
$220.00 $294.22 1750.2Sound
$320.00 $524.25 1648.7Neufbosc

I have a ratings model I use every year for the Cup - modified a couple of years ago to use Racing Post Ratings - this years output is above.
« Last Edit: 2019-Nov-03, 04:44 PM by Wenona »

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« 2019-Nov-03, 05:02 PM Reply #73 »
I had a little snip at the $81 Twilight Payment earlier today. Noticed it came into $67 an hour later and is now into $51.

There’s about 6 of the pommies who constantly swap places with each other. They clash regularly

There is no standout form line so the bigger price on TP is values

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« 2019-Nov-03, 05:45 PM Reply #74 »
I very much doubt that this years 2019 Melbourne Cup selections from the simple idiots guide to picking the Winner by just Pencil and newspaper; extracting only one piece of Form data; will be as  good as This Forum's  2018 Melbourne Cup post  #223 display showed, but here is this year's selections using the same manual non computerised workings.
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VF140817 MC70511F * RACE NAME ID* [ MC70511F  2019.  MELBOURNE CUP,,,,,,,,,,, 3200 mtrs].  RESULT  [                  ]  F4 Pays $.
 * * * *  * * * * * * * * *  *  * * * *         :bash: Winning Post looking from the Flat.
VF140817 MC50611F * LOW LRAC SPRICE [  1  12  14  21 22  19  24    ]  Order *

   1  CROSS COUNTER.
  12  PRINCE OF ARRAN.
  14  DOWNDRAFT.
  21  STEEL PRINCE.
  22  THE CHOSEN ONE.
  19 CONSTANTINOPLE.
  24  YOUNGSTAR.

  Don't Bet the house on this one but enjoy the simplicity of just Boxing the first four, or any  four  of these selections, for $6.00 ( giving 25% of F4 divvy if those four are placed in any order ) and at least save yourself some angst and much time.  It is quite possible there may be not a single placegetter in the mix shown,[   1  12  14  21 22  19  24    ],   but that is all a part of the  magic of the madness of trying to pick the winner of the Melbourne Cup  in any year; especially if Track is SOFT.
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