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Online wily ole dog

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« 2020-Mar-03, 09:58 AM Reply #250 »
Has Peter got an Order of Australia?

Perhaps that’s why he’s so, so bitter :bulb:

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« 2020-Mar-03, 10:25 AM Reply #251 »


TODAYS DATE -- JUST SIX YEARS AGO


APOLOGY TO PETER V’LANDYS

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« 2020-Mar-03, 01:57 PM Reply #252 »

TODAYS DATE -- JUST SIX YEARS AGO


APOLOGY TO PETER V’LANDYS

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Peter Mair
3 March 2014


Ok, PM. That clears up a few things regarding why I see RVL mentioned a lot with your posts but not much of Racing NSW.

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« 2020-Mar-03, 03:04 PM Reply #253 »

TODAYS DATE -- JUST SIX YEARS AGO


APOLOGY TO PETER V’LANDYS

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Peter Mair
3 March 2014



Makes a mockery of everything you post in these threads.....from every aspect :bleh:

As if anyone needed any proof of that :bulb:

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« 2020-Mar-03, 05:26 PM Reply #254 »
Catalyst is out with a bruised fetlock and going home.

Also from the Australian Guineas......Soul Patch's career finished with a tendon injury and Alabama Express at the vet clinic .
The absolute carnage on Melbourne's metro tracks continue.

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« 2020-Mar-03, 05:45 PM Reply #255 »
I'm hoping a few more of the  horse currently in the field fail their vet check.

At the moment other than Alligator Blood and Melody Belle there is not much to enthuse about the horses currently in the race.

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« 2020-Mar-03, 06:21 PM Reply #256 »

Six years is a long time -- things change.

No need to name names -- no one-person is responsible for what happens .

RVL went from top-dog in Australian racing to failing -- across the board -- in terms of management and racing policy. Victorian race clubs squabbling for the spoils was up against a coordinated monopoly in NSW.

...... after Rob Hines left in 2012, RVL was a downhill racer ... over the cliff  paying big-bucks for10th.

Conversely, RNSW was going, in a canter, from 2nd to 1st -- putting lengths on RVL.

Some of it was about 'additional funds' for NSW racing but it was mainly about superior tactical  management at RNSW, then effectively 'working' with a one-club ATC.

It was a 'united' front  -- up against a rabble .

I am inclined to discount 'headline names' when the board of RNSW is so bi-partisan politically stacked and coordinated by a former ABC CEO -- the power in the background has been a government determined to buy the racing industry -- probably begging RNSW to ask for more.

All this while RVL was on a road to perdition -- shortening stride dramatically in the run.

RNSW did follow 'over the cliff' with big-bucks for 10th  -- but that did not work to inflate fields as it did in Victoria.

Both RVL and RNSW are to be derided as unbridled monopolists exploiting a captive market -- people like me addicted to racing gambling.

The exploitation is on display day after day -- but especially on Saturdays.

In NSW, highway-robbery races are delivering rough-results in the early quadrellas   -- and the 'get out stakes' is usually a low-grade benchmark event inducing punters to over-bet on the main quadrella.

Even so -- using the Monty benchmark for tipsters --racing in Sydney on Saturdays is a far superior gambling entertainment for most punters.

.............. the contrast with the situation in Melbourne could hardly be more stark .......... the main beneficiaries of RVL policies on inflated fields contesting low-quality racing, with predictably rough-results, are fixed-odds betting operations and betting syndicates.

..... properly advised  most punters would shun Melbourne metropolitan racing ... but most Victorian punters seem to be slow learners  -- unable to grasp that races will not run true to disclosed form.

I now go overseas to avoid 'cup-week' and most Melbourne racing in October. Just a rort!

Occasional Saturdays to the contrary -- like last Saturday -- are rare exceptions.

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« 2020-Mar-03, 06:38 PM Reply #257 »

Over-hyped madness is underscored.......... All-Star Mile merchandise on sale now

Who put money up to produce these items offered for sale -- and who will buy them?

Contact details for both lots would be a priceless commercial advantage.


The All-Star Mile merchandise on sale now

The All-Star Mile 2020 official merchandise range is now available to purchase online. A cap, stubby holder, polo t-shirt and vest are available to purchase. Secure your piece today ahead of The All-Star Mile Raceday
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« 2020-Mar-03, 06:59 PM Reply #258 »
I don’t think Alligator Blood is a shoo in as people think. Streets of Avalon might kick up to lead and depends what happens then. The barrier draw will be important for this.

The field is not bad based on what is available in Australia at the moment except for Te Aku Shark and a few from the Chipping Norton field.


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« 2020-Mar-03, 08:24 PM Reply #259 »
Ripper of a field :clap2:

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« 2020-Mar-03, 10:26 PM Reply #260 »


.......kennel kids excel!

'I don’t think' ...............says jeunes --  as if we did not know!

...... and the not wily one is proclaiming a 'ripper of a field' even as it falls away with connections avoiding a run.......... and bradburys hanging in hoping for a bradbury field.

There is no 'breeding value' attaching to the winner of a corrupted race ... as distinct from wining a race for properly qualified runners of lesser value.


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« 2020-Mar-03, 11:22 PM Reply #261 »

.......kennel kids excel!

'I don’t think' ...............says jeunes --  as if we did not know!

...... and the not wily one is proclaiming a 'ripper of a field' even as it falls away with connections avoiding a run.......... and bradburys hanging in hoping for a bradbury field.

There is no 'breeding value' attaching to the winner of a corrupted race ... as distinct from wining a race for properly qualified runners of lesser value.

Couldn’t you make the same argument for the relevance of the Everest or the Golden Eagle to breeding or is that state taboo for you now?


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« 2020-Mar-04, 07:16 AM Reply #262 »


Could not agree more -- dare-to-be-great promotional stunts are to be deplored.

My views on the stunts pulled by RNSW are readily accessible -- the Everest, as a race, does have some credibility even as the hype and 'free-tickets' stunts reflect poorly on those responsible .

The special offense inherent in the some-stars-mile is the inclusion of runners 'elected' being paid $50,000 for running last and very likely to be an impediment to a fair race.

....the story will unfold over the next two weeks.

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« 2020-Mar-04, 07:21 AM Reply #263 »
Pete

How did the favourite runners perform in the inaugural All Star Mile.

How many people went to Randwick for the three running's of the Everest?

Both seem like brilliant ideas to me that have worked perfectly.

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« 2020-Mar-04, 05:16 PM Reply #264 »

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« 2020-Mar-11, 08:01 AM Reply #265 »


« Last Edit: 2020-Mar-11, 08:04 AM by wily ole dog »

Online wily ole dog

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« 2020-Mar-11, 08:04 AM Reply #266 »
Bugger, can’t make that 8mage bigger


Cracking good field. Can’t wait for the  race
« Last Edit: 2020-Mar-11, 08:09 AM by wily ole dog »

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« 2020-Mar-11, 03:19 PM Reply #267 »
I'm hoping a few more of the  horse currently in the field fail their vet check.

At the moment other than Alligator Blood and Melody Belle there is not much to enthuse about the horses currently in the race.

Having now seen the emergencies I don't think any of them deserve a start.

Although there is nowhere near the tail that this race had last year, in my opinion the race lacks the genuine class of last year.

When you consider a horse like So Si Bon actually is able to make the field and  not be without a chance of at least running a place (especially if  there is rain about) then the race really does lack quality.




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« 2020-Mar-14, 04:02 PM Reply #268 »
WA dominate.  These are two very good horses. 


Pike finally salutes away from home. 

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« 2020-Mar-16, 07:05 PM Reply #269 »


NOT HAPPY STEPHEN --  a second offence also misses the mark!

Any idea that RVL should be shielded from  outrage about both 'inflating the field' and -- worse -- including 'voted-in runners' in a WFA event, deserves harsh criticism of any racing 'insider' defending the present conception of the some-star-mile

 It was pretentious nonsense  for RVL to put it up .........and the nonsense only gets worse when some 'insider' becomes complicit in promoting the fundamental nonsense ........ suggesting a further 'tweak' to outlaw rubbish runners cluttering the field.

...... did Melody Belle get  fair go?

ALL STAR MILE GETTING BETTER ... BUT

I reckon there is still a bit of tinkering to do with the All-Star Mile but it certainly appears to have cemented its place on the Australian racing calendar with this year’s edition a step up from 2019.

The West Aussies certainly made their mark taking the quinella with two gun gallopers in Regal Power and Superstorm while 10-time Group I winner Melody Belle flew the Kiwi flag proudly in third.

There were Group I winners littered throughout the field but I’d still prefer to see a further lift in minimum ratings to raise the standard of the bottom rated horses.

As they say in AFL ‘you are only as good as your bottom six’ and in the case of the All-Star Mile the bottom few will continue to hold the race back as they have virtually no hope.



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« 2020-Mar-16, 09:03 PM Reply #270 »
What’s wrong a Mair, you couldn’t find the winner?  :lol:

Go you good thing :clap2:

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« 2020-Dec-31, 07:30 PM Reply #271 »

Off and running --  conscripted media hype for the 'no star mile'  2021

...................... the 'independent' racing media men -- the racing media corp is 'only men'  -- have  started to hype up the 2021 running of the 'no star mile' ......... on 13 March ..........at the Vale of Tears ........ god help us!

........ recently touted starters include Behmouth, Mugatoo ............... just wait for more teasers.

This is disgraceful manipulation of punters emotions.

This is 'dare to be great racing' writ large ...... and written stupidly .............

The All-Star Mile will remain the world’s richest mile race with Racing Victoria (RV) today confirming it will again offer total prize money of $5 million.

................ Since its inception in 2019, The All-Star Mile has provided a unique and entertaining way to engage racing fans and the wider community, while delivering plenty of great story lines.

This is nuts -- eligibility influenced by 'punters votes':

Over the first two years of The All-Star Mile, more than 275,000 fans have helped shape the field with the most popular pick in 2020, Queensland’s cult hero Alligator Blood, attracting over 18,500 votes.

............... RVL has come to understand the stupidity of 'acceptance elections' ....tightened the rules to preclude 'Trumps' ......... but the concept remains an illustration of the mindlessness that has become characteristic of RVL  ............. in this case, a stupid attempt to confront the Sydney autumn carnival ............ mirroring (mocking) the Everest so successfully promoted by RNSW.

.............. Australian racing needs a 'whole of Australia' perspective ........ as is, RNSW, by default, will soon be the national racing industry.
 






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« 2020-Dec-31, 09:23 PM Reply #272 »
Off and running --  conscripted media hype for the 'no star mile'  2021

........ recently touted starters include Behmouth, Mugatoo ............... just wait for more teasers.

This is disgraceful manipulation of punters emotions.



If a punters emotions are at risk due to one race a year where the entrants are selected by the public  I don’t think they should be betting as they aren’t equipped for lost photos, missed starts, slaughters by jocks, the overs god and the myriad of other variables that make it the “ Great Game”

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« 2021-Jan-05, 05:37 PM Reply #273 »


............. another teasing trip down the Arcadia' of contrived media management

...................... the 'independent' racing media men -- the racing media corp is 'only men'  -- have  started to hype up the 2021 running of the 'no star mile' ......... on 13 March ..........at the Vale of Tears ........ god help us!

........ recently touted starters include Behmouth, Mugatoo ............... just wait for more teasers.


Fancy writing this contrived nonsense

Leviathan WA owner Bob Peters aims Arcadia Queen at 2021 All-Star Mile

Peters said Arcadia Queen was his only entry in a bid to garner the exclusive support of the WA racing fans in All-Star Mile voting.

“Of course you never know how the voting will go, but we believe Arcadia Queen is one of the best mares in the country so we’re hopeful that she will get a run in the All-Star Mile,” Peters said.

However, Arcadia Queen would be a prime candidate for one of the Racing Victoria wildcards into the race should she not be among the top 10 vote-getters.

Peters said he hoped Arcadia Queen would secure enough votes to get a start in the All-Star Mile, which would leave a wildcard available for Regal Power.




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« 2021-Jan-05, 07:51 PM Reply #274 »
Thame the $8 & $26 you idiot and stop your squealing.
They will run 5he quinella  :tin:


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