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Offline Peter Mair

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« 2019-Mar-13, 11:44 AM Reply #150 »


People sure are talking about it

The All-Star Mile was conceived mostly to try to get more buzz around autumn racing in Melbourne.

“We listened to everyone who said autumn is great racing but we can’t get the crowds – no-one really talks about racing in that period like they do in the spring,” Carpenter said.

“The creation of the All-Star Mile was to try and get engagement and conversation during the autumn.

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« 2019-Mar-13, 08:54 PM Reply #151 »


Everest lessons for RVL -- give-away free members tickets!

RVL does not seem to realize that RNSW -- aka ATC -- simply handed out free members tickets to ensure an Everest crowd  -- and the journos did not report it.

RVL is so hankering for a crowd for the 'greatest race' it is offering half-price tickets

The weather is looking perfect for a day at the races and with three days remaining, there’s still time to secure 50%*^ off general admission tickets. Don’t miss the kick-off of Australia’s most electrifying new raceday!

..... half-price is too-much ......... give away free tickets........... and still they wont come!

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« 2019-Mar-13, 09:32 PM Reply #152 »

Everest lessons for RVL -- give-away free members tickets!

RVL does not seem to realize that RNSW -- aka ATC -- simply handed out free members tickets to ensure an Everest crowd  -- and the journos did not report it.

RVL is so hankering for a crowd for the 'greatest race' it is offering half-price tickets

The weather is looking perfect for a day at the races and with three days remaining, there’s still time to secure 50%*^ off general admission tickets. Don’t miss the kick-off of Australia’s most electrifying new raceday!

..... half-price is too-much ......... give away free tickets........... and still they wont come!

the man who would shoot bambi . boo santa and know SFA about marketing ?
keep the punters interested or they move on , hard to understand i guess
Pete , i think you would kill the game ? against keeping MY sport in the spotlight ?

more prize money , bad

more runners bad


less P Mair good

move on !

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« 2019-Mar-14, 06:34 AM Reply #153 »
Spot on Rats, spot on

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2019-Mar-14, 08:24 AM Reply #154 »


Marketing essentials :  Product  Price  Place  Promotion

The first priority is to have a good product -- RVL falls at the first hurdle

The price is accordingly excessive -- ordinary punters in NSW have to endure ads on 2KSKY explaining that 'no money to enjoy life' may follow betting on Melbourne races.

The 'place' is of course on-course --  no one goes because they do not want to be there

.........................and as for the promotion.......'dare to be great' without thinking is a hope but not a strategy for success.

Saturday will illustrate the story:  4 dire-strait races -- 2 each of 1400&1600m races with inflated fields of 16 -- and a 2000m race with 16 starters.

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« 2019-Mar-14, 10:07 AM Reply #155 »
You obviously failed at university

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« 2019-Mar-14, 03:58 PM Reply #156 »

The excitement is building ahead of the day

......................... in Saturday's $5 million All-Star Mile,  three runners race against the clock to prove their fitness. Urban Ruler (100/1) was displaying signs of lameness when put under the eye of vets...... fellow outsider Foundry (33/1) and Western Australian entry Material Man (125/1) are also in danger of being withdrawn from The All-Star Mile.

These horses only had to be kept sound to collect $90,000.

Race 5 is a bottler -- a BM80 over 2000m with 16 + three emergencies - distributing $150,000 of punters taxes.

This looks seriously impossible and I'm pretty happy to give it a miss from a punting perspective. For the sake of a tip..............................Verdict: Pass.


What a day   --------------- we are in Melbourne for sure!

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« 2019-Mar-14, 04:36 PM Reply #157 »

Race 5 is a very good race with some nice up and coming staying horses.

I suggest you do some form Peter.....oops, thats right, you dont do that
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« 2019-Mar-14, 05:44 PM Reply #158 »

Is that a white flag!

RVL is starting to realize the consequences of its ASM nonsense.

................. it  will be controversial if the Urban is Ruled unfit ......... is the trainer saying anything?

A top All-Star Mile official says the fact that $201 pop Urban Ruler has a lowly 75 rating is not the biggest issue.

“The problem is Urban Ruler has come back from a spell and not been competitive,” Greg Carpenter Racing Victoria’s executive general manager for racing said, of the Chris Munce-trained grey gelding that has been beaten by a combined total of more than 17 lengths in his two starts since resuming in Brisbane.



https://www.racenet.com.au/news/non-competitive-form--not-rating--the-issue-for-urban-ruler-in-all-star-mile-20190313

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« 2019-Mar-15, 11:04 AM Reply #159 »
Finally some good news for the organisers of the race. Foundry was found to be lame and has been scratched.

Fortunately for RVL Le Romain stayed in Melbourne and now we have one of the horses that really should have been in the race now being able to start. Now instead of 4 genuine chances and 3 maybes(the 3 year olds) we have 5 genuine chances.

Which makes it even harder for the likes of Urban Ruler and Balf's Choice. They genuinely should be $10 000 to win as they cannot possibly win.

I'm not saying they should be $2 500 a place as there are only a limited number of horses with the ability to race at this standard and you never know, but I'd have to give up punting forever if those horses that are listed at $100 were able to win.

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« 2019-Mar-15, 11:26 AM Reply #160 »


In the circumstances any 'vets advice' should be accompanied by explanatory statements from trainers.

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« 2019-Mar-15, 02:22 PM Reply #161 »


The hype keeps flowing

Tomorrow history will be made with the running of The All-Star Mile at Flemington – the first race of its kind in Australia and the world’s richest mile race.


Putting aside the runners that should not be in the race at all -- it should be a reasonable race for the top 6 in the market, but nothing to get excited about.

.............and one should not forget the outcome last year  when the Quadrella paid $8,000 and the 4 F4's contributing to this averaged $5,5000.

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« 2019-Mar-16, 02:20 PM Reply #162 »
Race 5 is a very good race with some nice up and coming staying horses.

I suggest you do some form Peter.....oops, thats right, you dont do that

Well, th favourite salutes,
Baby, there was no surprise there :whistle:

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« 2019-Mar-16, 02:23 PM Reply #163 »
  dOUBT THE COMPUTER CAN PICK THIS ONE, BUT MIGHT AS WELL SEE IT TRY:

VF140817 FL81603F * RACE NAME ID* [ FL81603F  2019. ALL-STAR MILE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1600 mtrs]. COMPRUN 03-15-2019. AT 07:09:16 RESULT  [    13   2   11    15    ~    4   14            ]

 
« Last Edit: 2019-Mar-19, 03:00 PM by pegasyber »

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« 2019-Mar-16, 02:53 PM Reply #164 »
look what the cat dragged in!

Fours

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« 2019-Mar-16, 04:16 PM Reply #165 »
Hartnell a certainty beaten.  Because I backed him.


Complete crap ride. 

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« 2019-Mar-16, 05:45 PM Reply #166 »
Happy Clipper again disappointing in Melb. Snuck into 8th spot.


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« 2019-Mar-16, 08:43 PM Reply #167 »
Interestingly the six longest priced commodities finished last six.

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« 2019-Mar-16, 09:04 PM Reply #168 »
Possibly an error but Racing.com shows the distribution of prizemoney in the All Star Mile as nil for the four which finished at the tail..so if correct no $90K for Urban Ruler whose trainer Chris Munce is $500 lighter for putting paw paw cream on the nags lips.

https://www.racing.com/form/2019-03-16/flemington/race/8/results


Giddy Up :beer:
« Last Edit: 2019-Mar-16, 09:09 PM by Arsenal »

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« 2019-Mar-16, 09:55 PM Reply #169 »
Is an error $90,000 to all unplaced runners (6th to 14th) in the race conditions

Online Brian Mc

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« 2019-Mar-17, 06:51 AM Reply #170 »
Just under two months ago I started this thread.
In that initial post I mentioned the word "mediocracy".  There was a fair amount of that both in the promotion of the race and in  the final field. 
Yet that field did have quite a few worth-while horses and, in the winner, an absolute bottler of a filly. To run three and four wide all the way and to put paid to her rivals with nonchalance was the mark of yet another mare that will give us enjoyment over the next few years.

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« 2019-Mar-17, 08:06 AM Reply #171 »
More will be revealed when Mystic Journey wins the Guineas on Saturday.
The voting public and the race club will have to hang their heads in disgrace

Amazing win. Geez I luv this girl.  :heart: :heart: :heart:

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2019-Mar-17, 09:27 AM Reply #172 »


Attendance at Flemington?

.......... has the number been published................ a sweeping shot of the stands before the ASSM had mainly empty seats.


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« 2019-Mar-17, 12:02 PM Reply #173 »
Peter, over this weekend in Melbourne, unlike in the Spring when racing has little competition, we have the F1 Grand Prix, the semi finals of the AFLW, semi finals of the premier district cricket, and ALeague  soccer, is it any wonder the horse racing does not pull in the crowds as in the Spring ,

I reckon the AFLW and the premier district cricket would pull in 3,000 all up, however the F1 would  drag a few away from the races, however, as most would agree, racing  on course attendances are in rapid decline and face a dire future.

Before much longer they will be racing for ribbons in South Australia and  Tasmania ,

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« 2019-Mar-17, 07:45 PM Reply #174 »
The crowd was 16,000 for the All Star Mile. I personally think it is disappointing compared to the other major races in Victoria.

It will be interesting to see what next year’s crowd would be as the Everest 2nd year crowd hit 40k.

Not a bad start but was it worth the hype, prizemoney etc?



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