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Offline Peter Mair

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« 2019-Mar-18, 09:45 AM Reply #175 »


.....................the Everest 2nd year crowd hit 40k.


That may be -- but the number of complimentary 'members tickets' distributed by RNSW  was politely disclosed in references to the 'packed' members stand on the day .

RVL could have done that but Melbourne is more gentlemanly -- full of the good intentions and hopeful aspirations that paved the road to the 'helluva mess' that the ASSM became.

RVL is coming close to being redundant to the future of racing in Australia -- at every step and turn it goes the wrong way.

Paying substantial prize money down to 10th was a step into the void.


.... the small mercy is that whatever RVL does next is irrelevant until late-September.

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« 2019-May-27, 08:39 AM Reply #176 »


ONE STAR FALLS -- will  All Star Mile be run again?


A new challenge for RVL chief 'Miles' Thompson  -- to redeem an astonishing embarrassment.

..............from the SMH this morning:

The inaugural $5 million All Star Mile at Flemington ran for the first time in March.

Then, for reasons unknown, the woman who came up with the whole thing departed.

Racing Victoria’s chief commercial officer Jane Ballantyne has been made redundant.




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« 2019-Aug-13, 08:17 PM Reply #177 »


A star falls from heaven again -- RVL continues to astonish

Last year, RVL eventually realized that 'letting the punters vote' for 'popular starters' was a stupid thing to do.

Given a year to regroup and put the '(no) star mile' on a sound footing RVL has not passed the test.

The new offering is a hybrid combining 'punter votes' (read stable follower votes) and the 'no-wild-card' discretion for RVL to over-ride the 'elected' pick of class captain chosen by the voting class-clowns.

We now have a shambles -- the clowns can now vote for BM 80 horses to get a run while RVL can make the clown vote irrelevant by selecting top-class runners.

That should sort out the 'winner' but it does not deal with the wasteful distribution of subsatntial racing funds to those 'elected' runners finishing down to last  -- all this with the prospect still of a field inflated with the 'elected' no-hopers running amok and delivering an unfair outcome.

..... one can only wonder what is going on at RVL   ........... astonishing decisions determined to lose the race with RNSW.

Be very wary of the (no) star mile to be run in 2020.




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« 2019-Aug-14, 10:29 AM Reply #178 »
If there was an all stars for dribblers you would be the first one in.

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« 2019-Aug-14, 11:48 AM Reply #179 »
What they have really done is got rid of Foundry (who was scratched anyway) and Urban Ruler. Balf's Choice,Man Of His Word and Mr Money Bags would still be able to run.

An additional 5 instead of 4 is a step in the right direction and the dropping of the prize money for the no hopers to $50 000 is also a plus.

I think the rules are far too liberal for the 3 year olds- bench mark 70 and a placing in a listed race is far too easy for them.

Good to see the NZs able to vote. However I'm thinking that there will be some sort of rort come out of NZ( maybe half the field will be from NZ). The $50 000 for the last 5 horses will mean a lot more to them than for horses in Australia.

So overall an improvement Mr Carpenter but I fear the race will still end up like this year.

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« 2019-Aug-14, 07:45 PM Reply #180 »


What do the professional members of the racing media clan think?

........ clearly, not much usually -- but they could make this a special focus given the needed thought is minimal.

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« 2019-Aug-25, 08:26 PM Reply #181 »


The abject humiliation of the 'professional and independent' racing media



It's started: a steady flow of promotional hype from RVl for the 'no' star mile to be run next March-- beware the ides!

Following are extracts from the first salvo -- presenting fundamental changes to the character of the event as 'remaining the same'.

The racing media men would be reading this self-evident tripe but dare not say a word about either, the implicit admission of a major mistake last year, or the continuing ingrained nonsense of a 'race' determined to win favour when a BM 70 or 80 rated horse beats the RVL's  handpicked 'best' .

When a Robin Hood shafts the Sheriff --and one will --  it will mainly expose the shortcomings of running races with inflated fields on metropolitan tracks in Victoria that are not suited to the event.

Consider this nonsense:

............... exciting new changes to the second running of The All-Star Mile for 2020........New Zealand residents to help shape the field ......... core structure of The All-Star Mile will (?) remain the same............... addition of a fifth wildcard ......two ‘win and you’re in races’ ................ change in the allocation of prize-money for horses finishing outside the top five .... $120,000  for sixth to eighth .......$100,00  for ninth and tenth and $50,000 for 11th to 15th.


The original All-Star Mile in March was (not) a tremendous success

The changes to the conditions will ensure that The All-Star Mile is a contest befitting of its (low/no) status, whilst retaining the unique opportunity for fairy-tale stories to emerge and dreams to be realised.

As we saw last year, the world’s richest mile has the power to transcend international boundaries and become a talking point for racing across the globe, and so we look forward to seeing a field of the best local and international runners here on 14 March.”

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« 2019-Aug-25, 08:43 PM Reply #182 »

The abject humiliation of the 'professional and independent' racing media



It's started: a steady flow of promotional hype from RVl for the 'no' star mile to be run next March-- beware the ides!



So youbelieve they should not promote their products  ;)

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« 2019-Aug-27, 07:18 PM Reply #183 »


The plain insincerity of RVL

If anyone was pretending to host and promote the 'worlds richest mile race' -- surely, they would make a day of it.

Recall the no-ASM  day last year -- one feature does not make for a good day's racing.

RVL really made a day-of-it last year:  a real mess of it --  the supporting program was the usual low-grade, inflated field nonsense.

.............. four F4s averaged some $20k, three 1.5k -- and the quadrellas paid 10k and 5k.

Those outcomes, while consistent with RV's racing rubbish, show no intention to back up a very expensive distribution of prize-money with a complementary good support program.

NOT EVEN RVL HAS ITS HEART IN THIS FARCE!





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« 2019-Aug-27, 09:44 PM Reply #184 »


Stars in the eyes of RVL -- dare to be great!


The Moonee Valley Racing Club has a grand vision to transform the Group I Moir Stakes into the “best and richest 1000m race in the world” and a key stepping stone towards The Everest

As with other initiatives, the hope is to take a free-ride on a mountain race in Sydney -- RVL leveraging off the ATC.

Do not forget that the F4 on this race last year paid some $20,000.


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« 2019-Aug-29, 05:14 PM Reply #185 »

Two races in one -- RVL confuses efficiency with product quality

RVL has managed to combine  into one race the concepts of both the Everest and the Kosciusko races to be run in Sydney on Caulfield cup day.

In Melbourne this race is known as the the All-Star-Mile and the No-Star-Mile  -- two races in one -- and it is run to distract attention from the Sydney autumn carnival.

Because all the good horses will be in Sydney in March, the 'fast' and 'slow' halves of the Star race are selected, respectively,  by RVL and minor-stable voting blocs.



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« 2019-Dec-12, 07:59 PM Reply #186 »


RVL digs in -- but the star won't shine

RVL has a self-destructive streak -- when you make a mistake dig the hole deeper!

The latest nonsense is a psuedo-survey of which promotional image punters consider best to promote the no-star mile.

Push-polling trying to contrive a survey to generate interest in a non-event.

RVL would do better to talk to ordinary punters about why they are unable to win these days -- and then stop inflating fields to  make the races unfair as 10th-placers clutter the fields.


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« 2019-Dec-22, 04:14 PM Reply #187 »

Ready, Fire, Aim -- RVL  has another plan to mock racing gambling

While we are waiting for the no-star mile to not twinkle in March.

In all fairness entry to the track on the day should be free.


Rapid racing to fire up at Flemington


In a bid for a more punchy and action-packed racing format, Flemington will host a rapid-fire Sunday card in February with condensed gaps between races and an innovative jockey challenge.

One of the fresh elements of the day, on February 9, will be a jockey challenge where seven of Victoria’s premiership-leading country riders will take on seven of the jockeys from the big smoke for a rapid racing trophy.

The meeting will feature a card of seven straight-course races run over distances ranging from 1000m to 1200m, with a sawn-off program with 30-minute gaps between races.


https://www.racenet.com.au/news/rapid-racing-to-fire-up-at-flemington-20191222

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« 2020-Jan-10, 05:44 PM Reply #188 »
On checking the nominations for the 2020 All Star Mile  I notice that Te Akau Shark isn't among them - I would have thought that it was exactly the right race for him- especially since the Kiwis are allowed to vote this year.

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« 2020-Jan-10, 07:07 PM Reply #189 »
Melody Belle for the All Star Mile and Te Akau Shark for the Queen Elizabeth Stakes in Sydney.

I think they are doing the right thing.

Te Akau Shark is a big horse who likes a bit of give in the ground.......I would  worry about him at Flemington on one of those so called good 3s.
« Last Edit: 2020-Jan-11, 05:38 AM by nemisis »

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« 2020-Jan-10, 07:09 PM Reply #190 »
The All Star Mile is at Caulfield this year so the track could be even firmer than Flemington would be.

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« 2020-Jan-15, 05:53 PM Reply #191 »
The All Star Mile voting commences tomorrow and I suspect that Star Missile will head the early voting . Like his half brother from last year (Urban Ruler) Star Missile is owned by one of those Hancox Syndicates which have at least 800 members.

Unlike Urban Ruler, Star Missile does have some promising form leading into the race. I suspect that form won't be good enough but you never know how far a progressive horse can go.

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Jan-16, 06:44 PM Reply #192 »


..........................    sit back and watch an administrative and marketing tragedy unfold


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