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Offline ratsack

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O.P. « 2020-Feb-15, 09:27 PM »
on the back of a request from winner

Offline ratsack

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« 2020-Feb-15, 09:30 PM Reply #1 »
great win today , when headed in a unsuitable 1400 he came again to win and beat a good horse
Time will tell with this bloke
I also think he goes better on the other leg ?
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« 2020-Feb-15, 09:54 PM Reply #2 »
A terrific race today.

I hope it is the first of many with the 2 and also the third horse was an excellent run

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« 2020-Feb-15, 11:17 PM Reply #3 »
Hmmmm,

Trainers comments after the race suggest the horse has peaked - be careful next time.

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« 2020-Feb-16, 07:06 AM Reply #4 »
I thought he was gone.

To fight back as he did shows he has what it takes.

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« 2020-Feb-16, 07:14 AM Reply #5 »
on the back of a request from winner

Thanks

I didnít know if there was a forum for this fella or not.

We could be in for some great racing between the top 2 finishers.


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« 2020-Feb-16, 03:21 PM Reply #6 »
There is are a couple of horses called Super Seth and Alabama Express that could make the Australian Guineas a lottery. However the mail is they wonít be running in it.

If the race is run like a repeat of yesterday in the Guineas might set it up for a horse that sits off the pace.

Both horses yesterday ran well but interesting to see how much they have left as they have been up for a bit.


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« 2020-Feb-18, 08:22 PM Reply #7 »
He is an absolute tiger...I had a decent bet, and would have nearly cashed out ,if I could , at the 350
metres.
Hope the trainers previous life does not keep getting brought up every time on free to air every time the gator runs...

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« 2020-Feb-18, 08:38 PM Reply #8 »
Shogun,
              I am not sure what you mean about his previous life. Could you enlighten me ?

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« 2020-Feb-18, 09:03 PM Reply #9 »
He, at one point, many years back now, had a serious alcohol and heroin problem.
It's over, and should not define him or be raised ad hoc...
He is, I think, a believer in Jesus and has been saved from addiction because of his faith.
He is a very open, lovely guy...wish him all the best with this beautiful horse.

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« 2020-Feb-19, 08:03 AM Reply #10 »
David Vandyke is also into fitness.

Good luck to him .......he has got a really good and courageous horse.

Bit rough that Catalyst had to give him a kg when Alligator Blood has won more than 4 times the stake money.......that's the problem with gimmicky races.....and that kg looked to me like it counted.

The elephant in the room with the trainer will always be his life before his personal problems.

The extraordinary success he had at Kembla Grange in the 90's is hard to forget .......he was putting many lengths on horses.
 When he was busted for using elephant juice it just all made sense.
It's a chapter in his story that has never had a proper explanation.

The victims of cheating are the people who have been dudded so my sympathy goes to them first not to mention the poor bloody horses.

Long time ago and a young guy but you can't pretend it didn't happen.


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« 2020-Feb-19, 10:20 AM Reply #11 »
Another bruising contest in the Australian Guineas might flatten him.

I see the trainer mentioned the Everest-Golden Eagle double.

That should be the focus.

If he were mine I'd be giving him a break and maybe pick up a couple of races in Brisbane in winter (10,000 and Stradbroke ideal distances) then focus on Sydney in the Spring.

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« 2020-Feb-19, 10:27 AM Reply #12 »
He, at one point, many years back now, had a serious alcohol and heroin problem.
It's over, and should not define him or be raised ad hoc...
He is, I think, a believer in Jesus and has been saved from addiction because of his faith.
He is a very open, lovely guy...wish him all the best with this beautiful horse.

And here it is being raised again  :what:

Good bloke. Put $500 on the counter at the local bakery to help the locals with their daily bread after the Magic Millions win.  :thumbsup:

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« 2020-Feb-19, 10:33 AM Reply #13 »
And here it is being raised again  :what:

Good bloke. Put $500 on the counter at the local bakery to help the locals with their daily bread after the Magic Millions win.  :thumbsup:

Bakeries are more expensive these days than the supermarkets for bread these days. I reckon he will be lucky to get 150-200 loaves or 120-150 pies. There were some great flavours in the old days which you could not get in the supermarkets but nowdays it is not the case.

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« 2020-Feb-19, 11:18 AM Reply #14 »
Another bruising contest in the Australian Guineas might flatten him.

I see the trainer mentioned the Everest-Golden Eagle double.

That should be the focus.

If he were mine I'd be giving him a break and maybe pick up a couple of races in Brisbane in winter (10,000 and Stradbroke ideal distances) then focus on Sydney in the Spring.

I agree.

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« 2020-Feb-19, 12:23 PM Reply #15 »
Napes, I just answered a forum members direct question.
Hardly a big audience here in this little backwater.

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« 2020-Feb-19, 08:06 PM Reply #16 »
After reading below, you can take it a few ways.

AB had a lot taken out of him and he has recovered well. The other scenario is itís 5th run in. This is the deepest he has ever run. I am also doubtful if he will back up in the All Star Mile if it is a tough race in the Guineas.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/alligator-blood-given-green-light-for-australian-guineas-assault-20200219


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« 2020-Feb-20, 01:02 PM Reply #17 »
I'm sticking with him, until he costs me!

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« 2020-Feb-26, 05:14 PM Reply #18 »
gee I could not back either of the 2 favs with counterfeit money! Not that they can't win but if you back one it has to beat the other one and you are taking a short price....not like they are the only chances either....If I have a bet it will be Dalasan.....there has never been a lot between AB and Dalasan and one is $2.80 and the other is close to 20/1 ($17 I saw with a boost)....he had no luck last time on a wet track, made his run early 4 wide around turn and was uncontrollable in the straight, jockey could not keep him on a straight line, he was hanging in badly threatening to cause severe interference, he switched whip hands all to no avail.....a Tongue Tie goes on this week....if he got his tongue over the bit that would explain it.......I don't think he will win.....but he is not a 20/1 chance either!

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« 2020-Feb-27, 06:19 AM Reply #19 »


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