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Offline arthur

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« 2020-Jul-04, 08:15 PM Reply #150 »
Please stop posting these results . .

I have found myself reaching for my cheque-book  to help Richie out far too often . .

 I fear that it is only a matter of time before I succumb

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« 2020-Jul-04, 09:06 PM Reply #151 »


                ...spare a thought for Richie

Richie is one of the most likely to know what way is up.

If he cant get one up, it is a sign that there is something wrong with the business  ... something very wrong.

Unless and until these media men break ranks and expose the nonsense of inflated fields, we are all doomed.

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« 2020-Jul-05, 08:57 AM Reply #152 »
How did Jett Hatton go Pete?

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« 2020-Jul-07, 07:56 PM Reply #153 »

The battle for TV coverage -- Victoria and Queensland and South Australia playing reserve grade

Racenet's Richie had a few words to say today... about broadcast entitlements ... see below.

This is a welcome glimmer of hope that the racing media will speak frankly about the parlous state of play.

As things stand, Saturday racing in Sydney has pole position .. deserving of a 'stand alone' telecasting platform.

All other metropolitan racing is increasingly irrelevant, if the aim is delivering quality product to most punters.

Melbourne racing, a long-time favourite,  is now delivering racing product that no one would sensibly bet on.

Richie alludes to the 'excessive cost' of the racing.com platform .........I would add an assessment that it is simply 'unwatchable' tripe ........   coverage selling 'confected-presentation' over the substance which sensible punters would appreciate.

All this is not surprising .........RVL policies dictate the running of racing that is simply 'unfair'............. it can be reliably called so 'unfair' once 'acceptances' are posted on Wednesday. The degradation of Melbourne racing has been an astonishing display of mismanagement of a was-once impregnable brand. No wonder the well-dressed r.c presenters are all about talking while knowing 'the form' is an irrelevance to the race results.

Racing around the rest of Australia is now also similarly simply irrelevant -- racing in Brisbane, Adelaide et al has no credible future --------- Perth racing is akin to Hong Kong ........ punters, do not go there.

Australia is a small country .... one-third of one-percent of the people on the planet live here ........... our racing industry, nationally, is delivering far too much of the racing being run world wide ...... and when that racing is either mainly irrelevant or simply unfair ...the portents are not good.

...............................as for what Richie says ..........let us hope RVL gets control of the broadcast rights of all the raffle-racing ........including the races it runs.


GUNS AT 10 PACES STILL IN MEDIA BATTLE

The Brisbane Racing Club and SKY Channel agreed to a new 10 year deal of its media rights some six weeks ago but the rest of Queensland is still to put pen to paper.

The promises and argy bargy and back and forth demands are a daily occurrence as Racing.com is still very much trying to wrangle away the rights for thoroughbred racing outside the metropolitan area from SKY.

If Racing.com is successful with the thoroughbreds where does it leave the trots and dogs in Queensland?

But take it as written SKY Channel aren’t giving up without a fight plus in surprising news for some, my mail is SKY still hold out hope that Victorian racing could jump into the family tent at the next available opportunity.

The latest running costs of Racing.com have left some board members stunned south of the border.

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« 2020-Jul-09, 12:45 PM Reply #154 »
Please stop posting these results . .

I have found myself reaching for my cheque-book  to help Richie out far too often . .

 I fear that it is only a matter of time before I succumb

I was about to do the same and then said I need it more.  :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-09, 05:38 PM Reply #155 »

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Jul-09, 06:49 PM Reply #156 »


I hope not ----- as the trainers man of the moment he should get some good gen.

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« 2020-Jul-09, 06:57 PM Reply #157 »
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Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Jul-09, 07:32 PM Reply #158 »
Ole a Rusty is a tad wily :love:

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« 2020-Jul-11, 08:36 PM Reply #159 »
Richie tipped one winner today out of 3 which was Space Boy returning 3.5. He is 9/78 and improves his return to $3850 loss.

Richie’s new job has not helped him straightaway.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/top-bets-from-richard-callander-for-rosehill-saturday-20200709

0/3 today and he is now 9/81 and his losses exceed $4150 based on a $100 win bet.

He will improve once the weather improves and his new job kicks in. The issue is will he share?  :lol:

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Aug-26, 08:58 AM Reply #160 »

Richie Rich becomes the controversy

Being controversial is easy enough as Richie shows in his latest posting on Racenet  ......... still, a little more frank and fearless from all racing-media men would also be appreciated.

This was ‘controversial’:

So why don’t we push acceptance time for Saturday back to Thursday morning like it used to be and get Wednesday’s races over first. Then with no Saturday fields declared to distract them, punters may renew their interest in the city midweek meeting.


This, from the butterfly, was impolite but more frank and fearless:

............ the fields on Wednesday are generally rubbish, and most conservative punters don't bet on filth.

Surprisingly  a glimmer of Richie being frank and fearless surfaced towards the end of a raft of ‘controversial’ opinions – he put the slipper into mid-week racing:

ONE LANE HIGHWAYS ARE NO GOOD

If you think the leader biased track on the Kensington circuit on Saturday, July 18 was bad, it was not as bad as the Canterbury track last Wednesday............Canterbury was an absolute shocker.

Five of the seven winners went straight to the front and led throughout ............53 horses ran in the seven races and ........... 40 of them may as well have stayed home in their boxes as they had no hope of leading and hence little hope of winning.

If tracks like this are presented to punters, they will stop betting and owners and trainers won’t be keen to run their horses.


This was good stuff .......and it brings my mind back to Moonee Valley on Saturday............ and ‘Kensington-is-not-Randwick’ today. I think races should not be run on either track ........... and Canterbury is also slated for the chop.

..........there are reasons why earlier saying ‘punters may renew their interest in the city midweek meeting’ is more wishful than controversial.

Richie has been a bit restrained recently in terms of the tipping caper ......... inflated fields, bad tracks, too much low-grade racing et al makes finding the winners harder than it used to be.

Some frank and fearless reflections on ‘why is it so’ could be good for the punters to read.

......and so to today’s racing

Let’s put the Melbourne meeting aside ......... and do it every Wednesday........ ..it is always a too-tough gig for punters....

...............turn to today’s offering on the no-go-Kenso ......... with a good track and inflated fields of maidens and BM 72 runners, the outcomes are very likely to favour the impolite assessment of the butterfly than Richie's ‘controversial’ hope that ‘punters may renew their interest in the city midweek meeting’.



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« 2021-Jan-14, 08:12 PM Reply #161 »


Reporting 'sizzle' but unable to find the steak

................... it seems the racing media men are given a brief to wtite ' conrtrived news' stories .............. finding and writing angles 'of interest' more likel;y to decieve punters than guide them.

Most racing-media men are also 'tipsters' ............. most have appalling records as tipsters they would not want any historical 'accountability'.

The malpreactice is rampant with 'big events' ........... situations where 'if wishes were horses stories' will build interest and betting turnover .............. situations where the journos are being wined and dined ................... with expectations at odds with their responsibility to assess and report .. and tip ....... independently.

The risks are revved up when a monopolistic sponsor ...... newscorpse ... is a beneficiary of contrived turnover.


............... one only has to look at the story headlines on sites like Racenet, punters.com.au and the mainstream print media to see the role played by 'if wishes were horses' stories.

All this is insulting to the conscripted journos and the gullible punters taking it at face value.

 


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