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Offline nemisis

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« 2022-Mar-08, 11:32 AM Reply #25 »
I think we'll see something pretty special in The Newmarket from Artorius.
Will carry only 50.5 kgs......who will ride him at that weight?

All we hope is for some clear running so he can unleash the devastating sprint he possesses.
With 50.5 kgs his finish really will be devastating.

Craig Newitt to ride.....almost would have guessed that!
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« 2022-Mar-08, 11:35 AM Reply #26 »
Iíve never backed him, thankfully and probably never will but it certainly appears to be his chance to win

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« 2022-Mar-12, 07:23 PM Reply #27 »
When I watched the race live, I thought what was Newitt doing when he hooked Artorius across from the inside to be behind the pack in the middle. After the inside division fought out the finish, I thought another wasted opportunity for him again.

To be fair to both Anamoe and Artorius, better luck and rides would have seen them win multiple G1 races this season.

Now I wonder what they do with Artorius? There are not many G1 races left for him this autumn to target especially if they aim him at the sprinting races.

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« 2022-Mar-13, 06:32 AM Reply #28 »
I did wonder what Newitt would do from the gate 2 but didn't expect that....great plan that was wrong.
It's been a bit of a train wreck for Artorius since he was bought by the stud.
No doubt the stud is dictating the path they want the horse on.

He was resenting something yesterday.....could have been Newitt's spurs although he looks a real stallion now.
Not sure that trying to stand over him is best....he must have wondered what was going on when asked to gallop at 45 degrees when the gates opened.
A penny for Newitt's thought as they crossed the line as he looked across at where he should have been.

Maybe they will pull the pin but Artorius at full flight was a great sight and he'll leave great foals.

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« 2022-Mar-15, 03:53 PM Reply #29 »
You can't blame Artorious for that defeat(can't blame Newitt either) can blame the track 150%, Artorious was the run of the race, he has definite Group One ability, ability wise he is the best of the 3 year olds by a fair way, he just does too much wrong and/or bad luck, Saturday was the first time I have backed him and will definitely be backing up again providing he is the right odds again

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« 2022-Mar-16, 09:23 AM Reply #30 »
I did wonder what is next for Artorius......I thought maybe meeting up with some mares.
This is interesting....Ascot.....the Diamond Jubilee and The July Cup.

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/sam-freedman-daumier-drew-barrier-8-for-saturdays-golden/id1240190872?i=1000554140442

Artorius has been a bit erratic both times in Sydney.....I'd give UK a try.

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« 2022-Mar-16, 02:32 PM Reply #31 »
ability wise he is the best of the 3 year olds by a fair way, he just does too much wrong

How can he be the best if he does too much wrong?  :what:

Hasn't won for over a year in the subsequent 8 starts, ironically in his last win he beat Anamoe who has beat him home the next 3 times they have met. Not to mention a horse named Bruckner who has raced him twice and beaten him twice.



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« 2022-Mar-16, 02:35 PM Reply #32 »
The stable are planning a UK trip for Artorius. I hope they send the right one ...

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« 2022-Mar-16, 02:46 PM Reply #33 »
Gin he can run some incredible times, times nothing else can run, not many of his starts he isn't the best run in the race....but I have never backed him until Saturday and he was the best run in the race again....because of his racing style verses his price, not because he isn't the best horse, he needs everything to go right so he is always going to be a low percentage horse....same with Anemoe, he is also a very good horse but he is also a BAD betting proposition, he starts short every time and gets beaten more than he wins,
if Artorious and Anemoe turned for home in a fast run race and they were along side each other I would rather be on Artorious to finish off best but that is just my opinion and it would decide on the odds offered, I probably wouldn't back either of them before the race
last start I thought Anemoe would win but had $300 on Converge as the difference in price was silly
It's not rocket science and it is just an opinion, that is just one of the things that I love about this industry

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« 2022-Mar-16, 02:55 PM Reply #34 »
Just doesn't make him the best.

He's one dimensional with his racing pattern & seems to find trouble.

I once had a dog who I bred and could run the hands off the clock, he was that fast. Trouble was the silly bugger was hopeless at box rise and clumsy in a field. Managed to win 2 from 15 or so and that was only because the 'seas' parted in front of him during the run, most times he'd just check himself off a dog in front of him.

Ended up deciding to sell, put double the price on him the trainer suggested and sold him in 15 minutes of the Greyhound Recorder (no online stuff in those days) coming out. Trainer couldn't believe but everyone knew how fast he was.

He never won another race  :dry:

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« 2022-Mar-16, 07:28 PM Reply #35 »
If you canít and donít win youíre clearly not the best in my book.

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« 2022-Apr-24, 11:03 AM Reply #36 »
Off topic I know but it seems Shogun Lodge has left the forum....very disappointing.

In case you still visit, Shogun......I will miss your posts here.
Always enjoyed your writing style and are a big loss here.

All the very  best to you.


 

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« 2022-Apr-24, 11:38 AM Reply #37 »
Does seem odd  :what:

His account says it's 'Account is awaiting approval for deletion'

Looking at the last posts it's a constant tit for tat with FZ in the Soap Box  :dry:

Just trying to keep a semblance of normality here.
Current affair.
However,  :censored: s like you want to put up infowars nonsense, right wing detritus...as if anyone wants to read.
You want this as a little right wing get together for you and your scared little middle aged mates.
Good for you.
Why do you think very few members reply to anything you say? Why this area is an intellectual wasteland?
You buddy you.
When I leave soon, and Jeunes will , I'm sure, give up righteously embarrassing you every 10 minutes, you can have the whole place to yourself and the dawgy.
You can talk to each other, about the old days.
Talk about all the good mates you have here that back your arguments.
Bwahahahahahaha

Offline Jeunes

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« 2022-Apr-24, 11:52 AM Reply #38 »
I do miss the sports and racing discussions that used to happen a lot.

Nowdays and that includes me, the soap box is the only attention or posts that happen a lot. Like Shogie,  I have backed off a lot on that topic other than the other election odds. I canít be bothered by the personal insults.

Offline Gintara

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« 2022-Apr-24, 12:48 PM Reply #39 »
I find myself doing it a bit on Twitter Juenes.

I have a habit of calling out bullshit from people on a lot of subjects. I have to remind myself that it's pointless arguing with idiots, regardless of the evidence you put up or call out that they can't back up things.

Saw a bloke screaming that someone should be suing over a dog attack recently - pain, suffering and trauma he said  :shrug:

I pointed out that the owner had come forward and was cooperating & paying the vet bills, when I asked what he was suggesting to sue for you the only response was - he mightn't  :shrug:

You just have to turn off from stupidity.  :shutup:

Offline Jeunes

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« 2022-Apr-24, 08:53 PM Reply #40 »
I agree Gin. A long time ago, there were many people on this forum who had great civilised debates.

But once religion, sportand politics get involved, people get very personal and abusive without looking at themselves and their hypocrisy. I remember one night, one of the moderators here get absolutely abusive and vindictive because I criticised the roosters and Pell. The moderator suspended my account etc and deleted their abusive posts until another moderator reinstated me.

It just shows why the forum keeps losing members or lack of posts. Thankfully there are some decent people around and some good competitions too.

If the forum went back to itís roots and more racing and sports etc with a ban on abuse, it will attract more and more great discussions.


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