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Offline Bubbasmith

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O.P. « 2018-Nov-08, 04:49 PM »
Those punters who backed Miner's Miss  on UnBet in the Oaks this afternoon would have taken the worst unders I have ever seen. The horse officially SP at 100/1 but you could get S150 on Bet365 and $233 on Betfair, however on UBet the horse was going to pay $27.00 the win and paid $4.60 the place after it ran third.

I can only offer two reasons for such appalling odds

A.It was ridden by Michelle Payne for her father
B. There was an sentimental article in the press featuring her father and how he had come out of retirement to get back into training.

When it comes to gambling and to be successful one should never bet on sentiment

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« 2018-Nov-08, 05:06 PM Reply #1 »
Yes, I thought what a paltry place divi when it crossed the line.

NSW Fixed started at 14.00 and 5.60 on the pari. with 180.000 in pool.

Given the similar skinny odds on Ubet must be  be something more than sentiment bets.     

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« 2018-Nov-08, 07:19 PM Reply #2 »
I was might;y impressed, not, as I had her in the weekly comp.

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« 2018-Nov-08, 09:02 PM Reply #3 »
What a story though! Avoca maiden to third in the Oaks. Huge effort. Maybe I am a little cynical but gee that is a far more interesting than any Story about Sheiks who couldn't count their wealth winning our races.

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« 2018-Nov-08, 10:22 PM Reply #4 »
Other reasons...

Allups of course

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Offline Arsenal

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« 2018-Nov-09, 06:54 AM Reply #5 »
Obviously a lot of sentimental hope in supporting Miners Miss  Queenslanders (everyone actually )love a battler and Michelle  rode it a treat wonderful outcome for father and daughter a tremendously successful family who sadly lost their mother and dad raised them all alone he deserves all the good fortune that comes his way long may it continue.   :king:  

Giddy Up :beer:
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Offline Bubbasmith

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« 2018-Nov-09, 09:37 AM Reply #6 »
I have no issue, with sentiments expressed for the family, however I never let sentiments affect my TAB betting. I never backed a horse on the TAB that suggested good fortune /  luck, especially if a given name is thrown into the horse's name ( eg My Lucky Uncle Bill, Aunty Betty, Cousin Bob ) all omen and superstitious punters cannot help themselves and all those $1 bets add up that those horses are overbet,

All those years ago I recall Reckless was a huge " under" in the Melbourne Cup because there were sentimental stories all over the place relating Tommy Woodcock, the trainer and his connection as the strapper of Phar Lap and that he slept with both horses.

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« 2018-Nov-09, 10:06 AM Reply #7 »
There are two sides to the story on parimutuel betting. If a horse is great unders that means.......... :bulb:

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« 2018-Nov-09, 10:12 AM Reply #8 »
For mine....

I still have to give it to the Chappell brothers...

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« 2018-Nov-09, 10:27 AM Reply #9 »
For mine....

I still have to give it to the Chappell brothers...

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that's not cricket

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« 2018-Nov-10, 06:05 AM Reply #10 »
During my many years of punting I can recall two huge unders.
In the 1960s, Clif Cary tipped a 100/1 shot Yelof (Foley spelled backwards) during his popular 3UZ Saturday morning racing program. It won at 20/1 and paid about 4/1 on the Victorian win tote and money back the place, such was Clif's huge following.
And 1983 Melbourne Cup winner Kiwi was controversially scratched from the 1984 Melbourne Cup by the Stewards. 19 days later, Kiwi ran in the Japan Cup and finished 6th ahead of Aussies Strawberry Road and Bounty Hawk. Kiwi would have paid around 4/1 on the Victorian win tote although he was over 70/1 on the Japan tote.

Offline Bubbasmith

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« 2018-Nov-10, 11:03 AM Reply #11 »
Gee, Colonus, you must have a better memory than me or you are a lot older  :beer:

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« 2018-Nov-10, 11:27 AM Reply #12 »
He might have backed it @ 4/1 and money back.

That would ensure a good memory of it.


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« 2018-Nov-10, 01:27 PM Reply #13 »
I doubt that, he probably did his b***s betting against it on the on course tote.

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« 2018-Nov-10, 04:15 PM Reply #14 »
I did have 5 pounds the place on the horses that finished second and third to Yelof, both being huge "overs" and I'm pretty sure Bubba backed those two too.

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« 2018-Nov-10, 04:30 PM Reply #15 »
In 1964 the minimum weekly wage was 15.8.0 (308s.).

~60% of that on just one race is impressive.

https://www.fwc.gov.au/waltzing-matilda-and-the-sunshine-harvester-factory/historical-material/the-australian-minimum-wage

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« 2018-Nov-10, 05:05 PM Reply #16 »
I did have 5 pounds the place on the horses that finished second and third to Yelof, both being huge "overs" and I'm pretty sure Bubba backed those two too.

I may have backed them the drum, however Lord only knows how much I lost win betting on the race against Yelof.


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