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Offline Bubbasmith

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O.P. « 2020-Jul-28, 03:58 PM »
This video tells how Bill Benter came across Allan Woods and how Benter made a Billion Dollars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efBG1YfuNhg

And

Zeljko Ranogajec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mto6Fdr4pI
« Last Edit: 2020-Jul-28, 04:14 PM by Bubbasmith »

Offline Tracksuitdave

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« 2020-Jul-28, 10:07 PM Reply #1 »
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« 2020-Aug-01, 11:39 AM Reply #2 »
Tracksuit Dave, please refrain from using defamatory comments of a personal nature.

It is my ass in the firing line unless you want to put your real name to the accusations   emthup

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« 2020-Aug-01, 11:40 AM Reply #3 »
All posts that include anything that could be deemed defamatory or of a personal nature will be deleted by mods, so please be careful as to what you post please   emthup

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« 2020-Aug-02, 08:43 PM Reply #4 »
Since Mr Woods is no longer with us are you saying that you have been contacted by Mr Benter or Zeljko?

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« 2020-Aug-15, 09:58 PM Reply #5 »
Interesting video's though full of factual errors, Woods and Z both started their careers at Wrest Point casino.

Have to admit I was impressed with Z's multitasking ability at WP. In the early eighties I witnessed him counting two tables simultaneously all whilst conducting a conversation with the inspector/pitboss and placing bets at advantage few can match that.
 
Later Wrest point brought in double-sided cards to defeat them (them being ZR, DW, PT, GM, RB, LW, SM) within a few weeks said cards were withdrawn with losses by WP unsustainable.

So many stories I could tell here regarding advantage play, the people that applied and thought them up not just the aforementioned.
Among them advantages from manufacturing faults on cards long b4 Ivey (PT, JC and DJ) shuffle tracking, roulette via the chi square test (DW,AM) and poker machines! along with Z defeating the big wheel though an ingenious timing method, all using the mind only.

I was advised when I first did my tour of L.V. never to mention you were from Tasmania!.

One funny incident I recall was when the CC boys bought every $50 chip WP had causing a shortage at the gaming tables, once WP produced more they all cashed in.

Sounds a romantic lifestyle not without inherent dangers, card counting at WP in the late 70's and eighties was possible as WP couldn't ban them only take counter measures, whereas overseas was a different case entirely. I recall an associate of Woods a brilliant C.C was blitzing L.V until a losing punter in an adjoining room blew his brains out causing him to go off the rails.

Location, Location... it speaks volumes, I guess if the university of Tasmania were not located opposite Wrest Point perhaps the whole world of professional gambling would be a different place.

Whilst Woods and Benter were applying the 86 paper 'Searching for Positive Returns at the Track' to HK, Z and his Australian team expanded to cover the Australian totes with basic overs betting which at that time (86/87) still yielded positive returns.
Though I'm loath to admit it Z's genius was to look at the bigger picture his competition in Tas at the time though just as smart never expanded and stayed local.

As time progressed this method with the advent of the net and punters becoming more savvy became unprofitable. They then switched to a Woods/Benter model which in time became outmoded.


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