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Offline Clibbo

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O.P. « 2009-Sep-25, 02:37 PM »
I didn't know whether to post this in Jokes. Bill Waterhouse has written a book. In it he claims he has been a scapegoat.   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2009-Sep-25, 02:38 PM Reply #1 »
well the goat bit is correct   :lol:

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« 2009-Sep-25, 02:39 PM Reply #2 »
Probably the worst book I have ever wasted my time on was, The Gambling Man.    emthdown

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« 2009-Sep-25, 02:42 PM Reply #3 »
well the goat bit is correct    :lol:  
Would that make him a Billy goat.

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« 2009-Sep-25, 02:53 PM Reply #4 »
one of natures *****  :beer:

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« 2009-Sep-25, 04:29 PM Reply #5 »
Probably the worst book I have ever wasted my time on was, The Gambling Man.    emthdown

U serious? - I put it up there as one of the best

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« 2009-Sep-25, 04:40 PM Reply #6 »
I'll probably wait till it is the cheap bin to buy it , but will have a look.

"What's The Odds" is the name of it I think and due out next week here

I'm reading Dan Brown's new book at the moment   emthup

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« 2009-Sep-27, 02:32 PM Reply #7 »
Big Bill reckons the late Kerry Packer owed him a million in unpaid gambling debts relating to S.P. bets in the late '70's.

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« 2009-Sep-27, 02:35 PM Reply #8 »
How much do publishers pay for papers to run these things ?

Offline dubbledee

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« 2009-Sep-28, 07:31 PM Reply #9 »
Bill will be doing a gig on 7:30 Report, tonight.

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« 2009-Sep-28, 07:50 PM Reply #10 »
On now.

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« 2009-Sep-28, 08:22 PM Reply #11 »
I know I'm in the minority, but that's a position in which I'm relaxed and comfortable.

I like the bloke.

I've done work for him.

I reckon he's a fair dinkum bloke.

I still am amazed at how he used to puff on a cigarette, stub it out, put in a koolmint, take the tickets from his man, wind out the favourite, write betting tickets at the speed of light, calculate whilst doing so, spin back the price, take bets from all those proferring money at the wound-out odds, give back the tickets, and then draw another cigarette waiting for the next challenge.

He is an Australian icon.

Pygmies might not agree.


   

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« 2009-Sep-28, 08:27 PM Reply #12 »
And pigs might fly.

Offline JWesleyHarding

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« 2009-Sep-28, 08:44 PM Reply #13 »
I made a number of statements there.

With which one don't you agree?

That I'm in the minority?

That I like the bloke?

That I worked for him?

That I reckon he's fair dinkum?

That he didn't do as I said?

That he's an icon?

That pygmies wouldn't agree?


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« 2009-Sep-28, 10:38 PM Reply #14 »
Great to see a racing man conduct the interview...it was quiet electric.....the human mind at work what a fascinating character Bill is......the richness of racing is a combination of the horse and the person....somehow Singapore racing/Betfair/Moonee Valley fireworks ...our new future is a sad outcome to the once sport of kings.................i look back with wonder

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« 2009-Sep-29, 06:56 AM Reply #15 »
Providing bordellos for politicians is a tremendous way of damaging society, and failure to bring the perp to justice should be condemned. Yet we still have to endure  reality-deprived fawning devotion to Kerry Packer.


So WSW's contrarian assessment of Saint Goanna is a very welcome rarity.

Furthermore corrupt regulators such as the beneficiaries of Packer's hospitality get off on finding scapegoats because it helps to shift the focus away from the actual criminals.

I don't know how any objective informed person could fail to see that WSW was indeed a scapegoat - the victim of a trumped-up charge. Prior knowledge of scams is a regular occurrence on racetracks - yet this was the only time that custom was policed.

I suspect WSW has significantly more honesty and integrity than some of his powerful detractors.

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« 2009-Sep-29, 07:31 AM Reply #16 »
He didn't come over to me as someone whose testimony I would accept. :no:

For those interested, an extended version of the interview can be watched on the ABC TV website.

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« 2009-Sep-29, 08:13 AM Reply #17 »
According to Kerry the extended version should become available today.

Currently it's absent.

Just the aired version.

Presumably will surface at either of these links.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/features.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2009/s2698920.htm

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« 2009-Sep-29, 09:25 AM Reply #18 »
When I was a lad of 19 or 20 I was at the trots at Harold Park and asked Bill's runner what price Wonder Wing's started in the first. Bill said to him " tell the c--t to f--k off. I spat the dummy and my old man had to drag me away. My first impression was a lasting one.

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« 2009-Sep-29, 09:33 AM Reply #19 »
I enjoyed THE Gambling Man....loved the parts about a couple of characters still around in the news..."The Sheriff"  bonking a jock's wife and the trainer from Moruya (ex jock...think rode for Tommy Smith)Chicka Pearson.

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« 2009-Sep-29, 02:12 PM Reply #20 »
I've never met him and only know what I've read or been told about.

One guy I was friendly with  knew him in the old days and would get tips, but from memory they weren't anything exceptional.

The TV interview was interesting, Bill still has his marbles and hasn't lost his appetite to gamble.

The Gambling Man by Kevin Perkins was an enjoyable read imo although inclined to be more favourable to Bill than an outsider might have expected.

He comes across as a tough and  ruthless person  obsessed with money and winning but still a great character,although not alltogether likeable.

Bill gets a mention in George Freeman's book  about a sting at HP trots he orchestrated with Bill as the bunny.

Be interesting to see if it gets a run in Bill's book.Probably only a minor hurdle in his betting ledger.

There aren't many characters left these days .Most bookies are colourless and Bill is the last of his kind. ())=(


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« 2009-Sep-29, 02:16 PM Reply #21 »
Where's Tommy fielding these days?

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« 2009-Sep-29, 02:19 PM Reply #22 »
Where's Tommy fielding these days?

Tommy who? :shy:

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« 2009-Sep-29, 02:35 PM Reply #23 »
Tommy who? :shy:

Tommy Waterhouse (Robbie x Gai)  :/

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« 2009-Sep-29, 02:48 PM Reply #24 »
Where's Tommy fielding these days?

Fielding in Melbourne.

I've had a bit of luck betting with him lately.  emthup


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