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Offline PoisonPen7

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O.P. « 2018-Feb-16, 12:16 AM »
There is no criteria for horses to be nominated for this thread.

Would love to hear from forum members who have past memories of country champions.

These are the ones I've noted down:

Akwazoff
Razor Sharp
Hosier
Tiny's Finito
Tullmax
Picnic In The Park
Skelletar
River Ridge
Sava Jet
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« 2018-Feb-16, 06:21 AM Reply #1 »
The " Molong Marvel"  Tullmax :clap2:

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« 2018-Feb-16, 04:18 PM Reply #2 »
PP7,

I have split the topic.  This thread is usable but the corrupted thread remains stuffed. 

Magic can simply delete the entire corrupted thread and you can continue with this thread.

Edit :  I have since moved the corrupted thread to the moderation board for Magic to delete.
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« 2018-Feb-17, 08:36 AM Reply #3 »
PP7,

I have split the topic.  This thread is usable but the corrupted thread remains stuffed. 

Magic can simply delete the entire corrupted thread and you can continue with this thread.

Edit :  I have since moved the corrupted thread to the moderation board for Magic to delete.

Cheers mate.

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« 2018-Feb-17, 08:47 AM Reply #4 »
I was going to post the record of Akwazoff but perhaps the length of it is too long (136 starts).

This is the 20 Cup starts that I can find. He has won 10 and been placed in 10.

There may be others that were "non Tabbies" or perhaps missed given we are only becoming digitized at the start of his career in 1992.

Finished Date Track Race Jockey Weight 1st/2nd Price Track Cond Time
2nd of 14 20/05/94 SCNE SCONE CUP D Jones 51kg Cliff Hanger 8-1 Firm2 1:22.75R
2nd of 9 27/03/95 GL I GL I CUP D Jones 58.5kg Billibonic 7-2 Soft5 01:25.32
1st of 13 09/02/96 WCHA WALCHA CUP Garry Baker 57.5kg Mark Time 6-1 Good3 01:26.00
1st of 11 19/02/96 QUIR QUIR CUP Garry Baker 54.5kg Mahlula Star 10-1 Firm2 1:34.88R
1st of 14 18/03/96 ARMD ARMD CUP Garry Baker 61kg Short Sentence 14-1 Firm2 01:57.00
1st of 18 10/04/96 RAND COUNTRYCUP Garry Baker 55kg Dance Til Dawn (NZ) 7-1 Good3 01:34.64
3rd of 14 11/07/96 GRAF GRAF CUP Group 3 D Jones 53.5kg Praise Indeed 16-1 Good3 02:17.75
1st of 14 17/03/97 ARMD ARMD CUP Garry Baker 62.5kg Soldier of Fortune 5-1 Good3 01:56.38
3rd of 14 02/04/97 RAND COUNTRYCUP Garry Baker 57kg Dancing Sun 11-2 Good3 1:31.71R
1st of 11 02/06/97 GUNN GUNN CUP Len Todd 63.5kg Lucky to Be 7-2 Good3 01:36.05
1st of 12 10/07/97 GRAF GRAF CUP Group 3 Garry Baker 55kg Dannemora (NZ) 7-1 Good3 2:25.76R
2nd of 14 16/03/98 ARMD ARMD CUP Len Todd 66kg Captain Starlight 9-2 Firm2 01:57.00
1st of 10 01/06/98 GUNN GUNN CUP Greg Nock 63.5kg Mack 'n' Me 7-1 Good3 01:35.97
2nd of 14 15/03/99 ARMD ARMD CUP Garry Baker 60kg Captain Starlight 11-2 Soft5 02:00.77
3rd of 14 14/05/99 TAMW TAMW CUP Michael Pelling 57kg Masterful Lad (NZ) 3-1 Good3 02:11.25
1st of 16 31/05/99 GUNN GUNN CUP G Henry 60kg Trust in Dreams (NZ) 2-1 Good3 01:35.49
2nd of 16 06/08/99 MREE MOREE CUP G Henry 64.5kg Amorist 9-1 Good3 01:23.00
1st of 11 23/09/99 LISM LISM CUP Garry Baker 57.5kg Racing Writer (NZ) 9-2 Good3 02:08.40
3rd of 16 12/05/00 TAMW TAMW CUP Darryl McLellan 56kg Bozeman 15-1 Good3 2:10.47R
3rd of 15 06/07/00 GRAF GRAF CUP Group 3 Greg Nock 52.5kg Simigan (NZ) 25-1 Good3 02:26.21

In terms of achievement, Akwazoff must be up there with one of the best ever country champs.

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« 2018-Feb-17, 09:03 AM Reply #5 »
The " Molong Marvel"  Tullmax :clap2:

Trained by Max Crockett he was a sensation in the early 80's.

Here is the form guide for the 1980 Tramway Hcp on the 13th September where Tullmax appears with picket fence form. 11 wins and a 2nd from 12 starts he is described as "Bush Champ" in the form. He was to go on and win this race and the Group 1 George Main Stakes.



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« 2018-Feb-17, 09:29 AM Reply #6 »
There was a feature 2YO race at the Quirindi Cup meeting yesterday called the River Ridge Hcp.

River Ridge was a champion NSW bush sprinter from the mid to late 70's who won two QTC Lightning Handicaps and a Challenge Stakes.

Here he is in the form guide for the 1978 Eye Liner Stakes being described as a "prolific winner"- my recall is of a bush sprinter who seemed to win every feature country sprint.

Better Beyond trained by Bart wins the 1978 Eye Liner race and goes on to win the 1979 Newmarket.




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« 2020-Mar-05, 11:55 PM Reply #7 »
The Newcastle Newmarket is on tomorrow.

The only dual winners of the race were Brandy Lad (1964-65) and Manuan (1983-84)

Brandy Lad also won the 1964 George Adams (now Group 1 Cantala Stks) and the 1966 NSW Tatts Cup.

He was placed in a string of feature races:

2nd 1963 Villiers Stks
2nd 1964 Craven A Stks
3rd 1965 Warwick Stks
3rd 1966 Warwick Stks
3rd 1966 City Tatts Cup
3rd 1967 George Main Stks

Apart from knowing that Roy Higgins rode him to win the 1964 George Adams, I can't find out who trained him and if he was a country horse.

His two runs leading into the 1963 Villiers (ridden by Athol Mulley), where he was 2nd to NZ mare Key (Billy Camer) were in city welters so I'm guessing he was trained in the city.


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« 2020-Mar-06, 02:39 AM Reply #8 »
Razor Sharp would undoubtedly have to be in any list of country champions.

On the eve of the Newmarket, it should be mentioned that he won two of them back in 82-83.

He won 3 consecutive Challenge Stks, as well as the Missile, the Ramornie and the Pacesetter Stks at Gosford.



He was trained at Newcastle by Jim Johnstone.

In 1982 he was beaten in photos in the Lightning (He's A Haze) and Oakleigh Plate (Harpagus) leading up to his win.

In the lead up to his 1983 Newmarket win, he was 3rd in the Lightning (Demus) and 5th in the Oakleigh Plate (Sans Rival) and was ridden by Dale Short both years.

Haven't got a complete record of his career but he was always thereabouts in the best sprints in the country.

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« 2020-Mar-06, 05:39 PM Reply #9 »
PP, Brandy Lad was trained by Tom Black. I don't know whether he was a country or city trainer though

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« 2020-Mar-06, 07:39 PM Reply #10 »
PP, Brandy Lad was trained by Tom Black. I don't know whether he was a country or city trainer though

Thanks anyway mate. I will continue my research into Brandy Lad   emthup

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« 2020-Mar-06, 07:40 PM Reply #11 »
How about Picnic In The Park?

Fours

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« 2020-Mar-06, 09:13 PM Reply #12 »
What about Tiny's Finito?


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« 2020-Mar-07, 01:08 AM Reply #13 »
How about Picnic In The Park?

Fours

There was also another horse at around the same time called Sava Jet who won a lot of races.

This is taken from a  Courier Mail article on Picnic In The Park

Then comes the colourful cult hero Picnic In The Park (21), one of the greatest stories in recent Queensland racing history, who shone in the same era.

"I was only nine or so at the time but I will never forget the excitement of it all," said Wade Raabe, son of Picnic In The Park's former owner-trainer Malcolm Raabe, who died of a heart attack last September.

"It was incredible really. Everywhere the horse went there were people around his stall all the time. Heaps of people were ringing up with offers from places as far as America. Six figures ... a lot of money."

Picnic In The Park won 21 races in succession from the Gold Coast to Townsville before breaking down with a broken leg when he was coasting towards victory in his final race at Rockhampton. During his winning run, the horse was never extended or given a full-blooded hit with the whip.

"I saw Dad have some pretty bad farm accidents but the day the horse broke down and its career ended was the only time I saw him cry," said Wade.

"I remember he said that the only people who cheered on course were two people who owned the winner of the race. Everyone else was stunned and silent. That was the first time ever he was going to let the horse go to see how good he was because he had sold a half share in it for a quarter of a million dollars and it was going to Clarrie Conners in Sydney the next day."

Malcolm Raabe purchased Picnic In The Park for only $5000 at a tried horse sale in Sydney. He spotted it had "shelly" feet and felt he could shoe it without "pricking it", given his experience as a farrier.

When he returned to his Murgon property after the sale, Raabe was contacted by a well-known Sydney jockey who told him the horse was a "bleeder" and could collapse and kill a jockey. But he changed its diet and suddenly turned a cheap cast-off into a four-legged flying machine.

When the horse broke down, his leg was put in a plaster cast and lovingly nursed back to livable health before his death at age 13 on Raabe's property.

Picnic In The Park was the last horse in Queensland to win two races in the one day when he cantered home twice at the Gold Coast on November 10, 1984, with Raabe taking 6-4 for the double.


https://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/the-stuff-of-bush-legend/

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« 2020-Mar-07, 01:26 AM Reply #14 »
Hosier won 3 consecutive Grafton Cups from 1922-24 as well as the Newcastle Cup in 1924.

There is a piece in The Land on the 11/07/1924 headed "Country Champion"

In the north, Hosier, the one eyed brother of Millieme, is not without reason regarded as the Beauford of the country districts.

It is a pity this horse is barred from racing in the Metropolis. There is no doubt he is high class.

For the principal event at South Grafton on Saturday he was allotted 11.7. The nearest to him in the weights was Charlesta 8.11


I take it he was barred from racing in the city because he only had one eye.

Millieme won the AJC Sires Produce, the AJC St Leger nd the Williamstown Cup in Melbourne.

Beauford won a string of big races in 1921 and 1922 including the Epsom, the All Aged, the Rawson, the Craven Plate, the Hill Stks, the Tramway, the Chelmsford and a few other races that probably would have been G1 or G2 if they were still being run today - Spring Stks, Autumn Stks and Railway Hcp.

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« 2020-Mar-07, 01:40 AM Reply #15 »
What about Tiny's Finito?

Tiny’s Finito: A legend of the race track

It wasn’t long ago that Australia was in the grip of Winx fever but was there ever a “Winx of the North West”?

Not a horse that had claimed 22 wins straight or anything like that but a horse that was a star in its own right.

Members of the Hunter and North West Racing Association threw a few names out there but one horse – a “magic horse” – stood out.

Racing enthusiasts said he had both talent and character in spades. His name was Tiny’s Finito.

Hunter and North West Racing Association secretary Bob Scherf was the first person to mention Tiny’s Finito and his owner Walter Doolan.

“The trainer was a character himself. Old Walter used to train him [Tiny’s Finito] in a 40-acre paddock in Glen Innes,” Scherf said.

Tiny’s Finito record was as impressive as his training was unique.

From 83 starts, the son by Blue’s Finito out of Tiny Court racked up 40 wins and 14 places.

Tiny’s Finito was a sprinter and won races such as the Ramornie Handicap – a race Big Money won in 2014 – and the Group 3 WJ Healy Stakes at Eagle Farm.

The magic horse had won $792,825 when he finished up in the mid 1990s which equates to well over $1million in today’s money.

However, while people spoke of Tiny’s Finito’s brilliance on the track and beautiful nature, the quirky stories about him also pop up.

Scherf told a story about a trip to Brisbane which Glen Innes’ Colin Say – who employed Walter Doolan at one point – retold from his firsthand account.

“I remember Walter once took him [Tiny’s Finito] to Brisbane to race and he was running late,” Say explained.

“We were waiting for him to come and then he walked in with the old horse.

“I said ‘Walter, you’re running late’ and he said ‘yeah, I couldn’t get the old bugger in this morning’.

“He was out in the paddock and the old horse decided he didn’t want to come in.”

The mother of all travelling horror stories goes to Walter Doolan’s grandson Jeff Doolan who was in his early 30s when Tiny’s Finito went around.

“I recall once going to Sydney to race him, we had a major breakdown with the trailer,” Jeff said.

“We unloaded him in the middle of Parramatta Road and I remember standing on the median strip with him.

“It was so busy. It was ridiculous. But he was quite calm about the whole thing.”

Jeff would travel around with his grandfather and father Terry as Tiny’s Finito went around winning races.

Despite admitting Tiny’s Finito didn’t like leaving his home property, Jeff described him as a “beautiful-natured horse” out on the farm and a “dogged campaigner” on the track.

“He jumped extremely quick every time. He hit the ground running and he meant business right from the jump,” Jeff said.

“He was an extremely well-balanced horse. He had winning in his mind and in his heart. He knew where that line was.

“All you had to do was keep him out of trouble, straighten him up for home and let him have it.”

Tiny’s Finito raced in all orange colours, loved the hard ground over the soft and there was one particular jockey who got the most out of the horse.

“John Hutchings. He was a champion jockey from Grafton in the Northern Rivers,” Jeff said. “They were a team pretty much right through. Other jockeys rode him but John Hutchings knew how to ride him.”


That article is from the Glen Innes Examiner in 2017

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« 2020-Mar-07, 01:48 AM Reply #16 »
Tiny's Finito won the Group 3 QTC Lightning in 1990 and a string of Listed races including

1990 BATC Doomben Stks (Vo Rogue 3rd)
1990 BATC Sprint (beating dual 10,000 winner Prince Trialia)
1990 Ramornie Hcp (after running 2nd to Lightning Bend the previous year)
1991 BATC Sprint
1991 Bribie Hcp
1991 Healy Stks
1991 Weetwood Hcp in Toowoomba

He was 3rd to Prince Trialia in the 1991 10,000 and was placed in the City Tatts Lightning at Randwick in 1990.

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« 2020-Mar-11, 02:31 PM Reply #17 »
A couple of Queensland country horses were Bernborough and the horse who beat him four times in seven clashes in Toowoomba, Abruzzi.

Zeb Armstrong's book, the Bernborough Phenomenon which is on Google Books, states that many in Queensland believed Abruzzi was just as good as Bernborough. He was banned from metropolitan tracks for bad barrier behaviour.

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« 2020-Mar-11, 08:39 PM Reply #18 »
Mate we need to discuss the elephant in the room.

Can Bernborough be classed as a "Country Champion"?

I know very well he started off in the country, but his fame and glory was gained when trained in Sydney.

And besides, he is already on the Champion Racehorses thread  :)

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« 2020-Mar-11, 09:34 PM Reply #19 »
I threw the elephant in there PP mainly to highlight Abruzzi!

Bernborough was a champion but, you're right, a "country champion" doesn't fit as a label for him today.


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« 2020-Mar-12, 05:39 AM Reply #20 »
Takeover Target is the best I have seen.

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« 2020-Mar-14, 08:38 AM Reply #21 »
Well if the criteria is that were trained outside the city ... Luskin Star was the best I saw.

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« 2020-Apr-28, 05:07 AM Reply #22 »
Takeover Target is the best I have seen.
to be honest, i have to agree with you sir. i'm by far not an expert, working as a easy recipes chef only who is just having a hobby of horse races, but in my opinion, there's barely anyone that can stand Takeover Target
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« 2020-May-29, 07:53 PM Reply #23 »
to be honest, i have to agree with you sir. i'm by far not an expert, working as a easy recipes chef only who is just having a hobby of horse races, but in my opinion, there's barely anyone that can stand Takeover Target

 :what:

I'd have to agree strongly with Antitab.

Given he won a Group 1 in every mainland state, then one in England, Singapore, Hong Kong and Japan (happy to be corrected on that as not 100% sure about the four) - to me that actually "out achieves" Black Caviar.

No Australian horse has ever done what Takeover Target did. And nor are they likely to.  He is an Australian equine immortal.

And #1 Country horse IMO.

Luskin Star was transferred to Bart Cummings so not sure he qualifies. Regardless however I don't think he matched Takeover Target.

According to Tontonan

41 starts 21 wins 6 seconds 4 thirds  $6,028,311

Australian Champion Sprinter (2006)
World's Highest Rated Turf Sprinter (2006)IFHA rating: 121
Global Sprint Challenge Champion (2006)
Australian Champion International Performer (2006, 2007, 2008)
Inducted to the Australian Racing Hall of Fame 2012





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« 2020-May-29, 09:16 PM Reply #24 »


....... there are 'champions' but not rural-racing 'champions' out of town.


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