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Offline JWesleyHarding

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« 2017-Dec-16, 05:35 PM Reply #25 »
Close but I've got no problems with the result.

Two comments

A- the 6 definitely didn't lose.

B The Aqua cap is in front of the Pink one.


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« 2017-Dec-16, 06:06 PM Reply #26 »
Happened to watch last night and the photo finish as displayed on TV looked correct to my eye.

Offline Gintara

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« 2017-Dec-16, 07:42 PM Reply #27 »
This was the photo for the last at Canterbury last night.

Horse on the outside got the nod  :chin:




At least you didn't have to ask the stewards to put a line on the photo!

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Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2017-Dec-17, 02:36 AM Reply #28 »
There is a left and right edge to the yellow line (as you face it).

I reckon if you trace down the right edge the nose of the inside horse breaks the edge ever so slightly.

It is my understanding that if both horses break the line then it is a dead heat regardless of who looks to have won i.e. one horse/dog may look to the naked eye that it breaks the edge more but if both break it dead heat.

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« 2017-Dec-23, 02:05 PM Reply #29 »
Interestingly a thread was put up on Facebook about this race.

No comments other than who won?

a - red dog
b - 10
c - dead heat

About 80% to the red dog  :shutup:

Offline Gintara

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« 2021-Jan-30, 05:27 PM Reply #30 »
Absolute piss take from the judge at Caulfield in the last  :bleh:




Offline JWesleyHarding

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« 2021-Jan-30, 05:40 PM Reply #31 »
Don't tell me.

You were on the fav?

Offline Gintara

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« 2021-Jan-30, 06:00 PM Reply #32 »
Of course - although I've backed Hangman plenty of times  :shy:

I don't even need to put my glasses on to see a gap so unless Hangman has a green nose, it's a shocking decision  emthdown

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« 2021-Jan-31, 03:25 PM Reply #33 »
Stewards: 'That is not the clear, pure digital image'
By Nick Hluchaniuk

The image made available to punters after the race The image made available to punters after the race
Racing Victoria chief steward Robert Cram said he would endeavour to get a clear image of the controversial photo finish from the last race at Caulfield distributed to the public.

The judge's decision to award a dead heat between Defibrillate ($2) and Hang Man ($17) in the John Moule Handicap (1800m) created much debate after an image of the finish shown on the broadcast indicated there may have been a slight margin in favour of the even-money favourite.

Mr Cram said stewards were satisfied the judge had made the correct decision and the photo widely distributed after the race was not the clear image the judge had at his disposal.

"The judge has access to a pure form of the digital image. It's straight from the camera to the computer and it is in its purest form without any pixelation or distortion," Mr Cram told RSN on Sunday.

"He then transmits that image down through various cables throughout the racecourse and it goes on various types of TV monitors. To do so, it loses some clarity and what you are seeing on the TV monitors is not as pure a form of image as what the judge has available to him in the judge's box."

"I'm aware that there has been an image sent around on social media, but that is not the clear, pure digital image the judge used to make his decision."

The digital image is posted on Racing.com, but it appears as a strip, and the chief steward said he would look to get a clear close-up of the finish made available on the website.

"I'll look into Racing Victoria being able to facilitate that today to get the purest digital image up on the Racing.com site that can focus in on the two horses."

'That is not the clear, pure digital image'


Mr Cram said stewards and connections of the two horses involved in the dead heat spent some time deliberating after the judge had made his decision.

He said Defibrillate's rider Billy Egan had taken "some time to express some satisfaction", but stewards were comfortable the right call was made.

"When the numbers were semaphored and the image was posted around the race course, connections of both horses and the stewards then deliberated themselves on the decision made by the judge to ensure that it was the correct decision."

"Under the Australian Rules of Racing, stewards have the powers to alter the judge's placings if they believe an error has been made.

'That is not the clear, pure digital image'



"On this occasion yesterday, after further deliberations in the stewards' room, stewards were not of the belief that there was a margin between the two horses and believed the judge made the correct decision.

"Billy Egan took some time to express some satisfaction. He was obviously representing connections and doing the best job for them and the stewards ultimately agreed with the judge's decision that there could be no clear margin detected."

The dead heat made it three straight wins for Defibrillate while it was Hang Man's first success since the Benalla Gold Cup in September 2019.

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« 2021-Jan-31, 03:29 PM Reply #34 »
Talk about PR & spin.  :shutup:

Surely a clearer image would only enhance a margin  :chin:


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