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Offline PoisonPen7

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O.P. « 2018-Jan-21, 11:57 AM »
A thread to post historical facts, and/or to offer observations or opinions of our great racing history.


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« 2018-Jan-21, 12:11 PM Reply #1 »
The most infamous incident in Australian racing history occurred during the 1885 Caulfield Cup (run on 17th October) when of the 43 starters (Pollard says 41, the Argus says 43), 16 fell.

27 year old jockey Donald Nicholson was killed as well as a horse called Uarah. Nicholson had ridden many feature winners in Sydney including the Sydney Cup.

Another jockey called Cracknell suffered massive trauma to his chest but seems to have survived.

The race was won by Grace Darling.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/6069217

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« 2018-Jan-21, 12:54 PM Reply #2 »
Real longshot here but.....

Would anyone have a cached copy of the html page for the old Ozeform web site where they listed all the past winners and placings (right down to last place) for the big three races for the Melbourne Spring?

It was the best on-line information I've seen but seems to have disappeared off the planet.

Ozeform is now Practical Punting Monthly but that web site does not seem to have reproduced those pages.

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« 2018-Jan-21, 01:22 PM Reply #3 »
Great idea for a thread, PP.

You're right, that was an infamous incident and, for once, was a catalyst for at least some changes. Reading about racing before more modern safety features, it's remarkable more jockeys weren't killed. 

Maurice Cavanough's book on the Caulfield Cup also lists 41 starters. He makes the point that the bigger fields in those days were the consequence of far fewer meetings.

Racegoers had to carry the badly injured jockeys down the straight to the rooms. Sammy Cracknell and the other injured jockeys apparently all fully recovered, one of them, Frank McGrath, who was laid up for several months, later going on to be a very successful trainer winning the Cup with Amounis. A sad footnote mentioned by Cavanough is that Grace Darling's trainer shot himself a couple of years later.

Grace Darling started at 28/1 and was thought lucky to win but she very nearly took out the Melbourne Cup as well missing by a head to Sheet Anchor.

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« 2018-Jan-21, 02:36 PM Reply #4 »
PP you can try

https://archive.org/web/

and enter ozeform and then choose a date.

It's a bit hit and miss for older stuff though

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« 2018-Jan-21, 08:01 PM Reply #5 »
PP you can try

https://archive.org/web/

and enter ozeform and then choose a date.

It's a bit hit and miss for older stuff though

Cheers mate. Very helpful   emthup

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« 2018-Jan-21, 09:21 PM Reply #6 »
To take up the cudgels from the Champion racehorse thread, Gunbower made the comment that Summertime was a very successful sire  considering the number of mares that stallions got back then.....meaning much less than they do today? I have a Theory on that subject, I was wondering if anyone else had a theory as to why Stallions back in the 50's, 60's and 70's only served 45 or 50 mares when Stallions today serve up towards 300??

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« 2018-Jan-21, 09:59 PM Reply #7 »
I was looking up Bogan Road's runs as a 4yo. He was 7th to Toi Port in The 1963 Epsom. Who was trained by W A Stripe. On that day Summer Fiesta won The Derby, Summer Fair won The Colin Stephen Stakes, Summer Storm won a Novice over 10 furlong at Randwick. In Melbourne Sometime won The Turnbull Stakes. All were sired by Summertime.

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« 2018-Jan-22, 08:56 AM Reply #8 »
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I was looking up Bogan Road's runs as a 4yo. He was 7th to Toi Port in The 1963 Epsom. Who was trained by W A Stripe. On that day Summer Fiesta won The Derby, Summer Fair won The Colin Stephen Stakes, Summer Storm won a Novice over 10 furlong at Randwick. In Melbourne Sometime won The Turnbull Stakes. All were sired by Summertime

There were certainly plenty of good Summertimes racing in the early 60s! Hadn't realised that no progeny of Summertime won over 2 miles.

Summer Regent was my favourite as a kid, but didn't do anything in the 1963 Melbourne Cup, although he was 2nd ahead of River Seine and Grand Print in the 64 Sydney Cup.

Who was Summertime's best? Sir Dane, Sometime, Summer Fair and Broker's Tip would be up there and Summer Regent did get the 63 Cox Plate plus the AJC Queen Elizabeth in 1964.


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« 2018-Jan-22, 10:46 AM Reply #9 »
and lets not forget that he was the dad of one of our highly valued forumites who, in his spare time, sired Sobar, So Called and the  2 Mile Cup winner you were looking for, Think Big.



 

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« 2018-Jan-22, 12:23 PM Reply #10 »
After winning The Rosehill Guineas Bogan Road was installed short priced favourite for 1962 The AJC Derby, Caulfield Guineas and Caulfield Cup. After his defeat in The Derby he was replaced as favourite in The Caulfield Cup by Aquinita, Summer Prince and Summer Fair. Bogan Road did not start in either race. This was The Caulfield Cup won by Even Stevens.

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« 2018-Jan-22, 12:29 PM Reply #11 »
Sobar, after that Caulfield Cup, it felt like a new superstar had arrived!

Was Think Big the only 2 mile cup winner from Sobig? Just checking Think Big's record, he had 4 other 2 mile races, 3rd in the 1974 Brisbane Cup and 1975 Perth Cup and nowhere in the 1977 Sydney and Adelaide Cups. The weakest of the dual winners, but still he carried 58.5 in 1975.

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« 2018-Jan-22, 12:37 PM Reply #12 »
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After winning The Rosehill Guineas Bogan Road was installed short priced favourite for 1962 The AJC Derby, Caulfield Guineas and Caulfield Cup. After his defeat in The Derby he was replaced as favourite in The Caulfield Cup by Aquinita, Summer Prince and Summer Fair. Bogan Road did not start in either race. This was The Caulfield Cup won by Even Stevens.

CJ, it would have been interesting to see his career would have progressed if he hadn't been flattened by the Derby and the leg injury. He certainly wasn't the same as a 4yo.

TJ kept telling the press before the Derby that he didn't think Bogan Road could stay and he was right.

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« 2018-Jan-22, 12:46 PM Reply #13 »
Does anyone know what happened to him in The Derby. Did he race again as a 3yo?

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« 2018-Jan-22, 01:00 PM Reply #14 »
The first horse I ever rode in trackwork was a son of Sobig.

Beautiful tall black rangy 3yr old, with a parrot mouth called Sahrano who could be ridden on a long rein by jockeys.

Was glad he knew to pull up after 2 laps of 3/4 pace because I had nothing left in my arms and we would still be going round.

Did make his way to Oz and ran in Sydney Cup when trained by Syd Brown.

Never forget him and often wondered what became of him but maybe would never want to know.

Did win at 2  miles in NZ in a restricted race as a 4yr old.

Big Gamble a son of Sobig did win the Wellington Cup.

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« 2018-Jan-22, 01:44 PM Reply #15 »
I think Rustler who won a Wellington Cup was also by Sobig

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« 2018-Jan-22, 01:50 PM Reply #16 »
Bogan Road didn't race again at 3.

In the Derby he jarred his near-side foreleg. He was said to have raced "untruly" in the straight which he hadn't done before. Still, he was only 2.5 lengths from the winner and 10 lengths ahead of third.

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« 2018-Jan-22, 01:55 PM Reply #17 »
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I think Rustler who won a Wellington Cup was also by Sobig

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Big Gamble a son of Sobig did win the Wellington Cup

Thanks for posting both of those, winners 1973 and 1979 respectively.


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« 2018-Jan-22, 04:05 PM Reply #18 »
Just been having a look at the SMH for the30th March 1962 which was the day before The Golden Slipper which they describe as the race of the century between Bogan Road and Proud Miss. Their is a picture of Bogan Road's original trainer Jack Montgomery. In the form guide it reads Bogan Road won his first four start's up to 5 furlongs.  Proud Miss had won her last ten races from 11 start's. The race of the century was won by Birthday Card who had won a 6 furlong 2 year old race at Rosehill the week before. Bogan Road was ridden by Arthur Gallagher and Proud Miss by Jim Johnson 

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« 2018-Jan-22, 05:08 PM Reply #19 »
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Just been having a look at the SMH for the30th March 1962 which was the day before The Golden Slipper which they describe as the race of the century between Bogan Road and Proud Miss

Interesting that it was so hyped as "the race of the century" over 50 years ago!

Warwick Hobson's book on the Golden Slipper describes Proud Miss taking off like a scalded cat and having to fight off all the challenges until Birthday Card proved too strong. Bogan Road was a disappointing 6th but at his "brilliant best" at Randwick for the Champagne and Sires' Produce.

Hobson mentions Bogan Road's jockey as a real battler. When he rode Bogan Road to 4 successive wins in Oct 1961, it was his first Sydney winner since July 1957.

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« 2018-Jan-22, 05:33 PM Reply #20 »
He rode Bogan Road when he won The Sire's Produce Stakes and Champagne Stakes. Before Bogan Road began his 3yo season he was killed in a race fall at Bourke. Jack Thompson rode Bogan Road when he was unplaced in an Open Flying behind Kilshery two weeks before The Slipper. That's a sad story about Arthur Gallagher six wins on Bogan Road then dies in  race fall at Bourke.

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« 2018-Jan-23, 01:12 AM Reply #21 »
The Ozeform data for the Cup was so good I'm trying to preserve it.

It only went up to 2003, and there were a lot of omissions and errors. It is a big task but eventually I'm hoping to have a record of every year and horse that ever ran in the Cup for that year. I've got to manually add in post 2003 years and have only done up to 2006 yet but was keen to see how it looks in html code (I also store it in CSV format for easy importation into a spreadsheet program like Open Office or Excel).

Initially, an obvious database to create is for each year i.e. in spreadsheet terms, one line per year with the column headings like this:

YEAR WINNER AGE SEX ODDS JOCKEY TRAINER WEIGHT COLOUR STARTERS MARGINS TIME OWNERS
1861ARCHER5H6/1J CUTTS E DE MESTRE9.7B176 LEN by 2 LEN3:52.00 MR E DE MESTRE
1862ARCHER6H2/1fJ CUTTS E DE MESTRE10.2B208 LEN by 2 LEN3:47.00 MR E DE MESTRE
1863BANKER3C10/1H CHIFNEY SAM WALDOCK5.4B7LEN by 2 LEN3:44.00 MR J HARPER
1864LANTERN3C15/1S DAVIS S MAHON6.3BR191.5 LEN by 2 LEN3:52.00 MR H FISHER
1865TORYBOY8G25/1E KAVANAGH P MILEY 7.0GR234 LEN by 3 LEN.3:44.00 MR B MARSHALL
1866THE BARB3C6/1fW DAVIS JOHN TAIT6.11BL28HD by 3 LEN3:43.00 MR J TAIT
1867TIM WHIFFLER5H5/2fJ DRISCOLL E DE MESTRE8.11B272 LEN by 1 LEN3:39.00 MR E DE MESTRE
1868GLENCOE4H10/1C STANLEY JOHN TAIT9.1CH251 LEN by 3 LEN3:42.00 MR J TAIT
1869WARRIOR6G10/1J MORRISON R SEVIOR8.10BR262 LEN by 1 LEN3:40.00 MR A SAQUI
1870NIMBLEFOOT7G12/1J DAY W LANG6.3B281/2 HD by 4 LEN3:37.00 W CRAIG
1871THE PEARL5H100/1J CAVANAGH JOHN TAIT7.3B232 LEN by 1 LEN3:39.00 MR J TAIT
1872THE QUACK6H11/2W ENDERSON JOHN TAIT7.10B222 LEN by NK3:39.00 MR J TAIT
1873DON JUAN4H3/1fW WILSON JAMES WILSON6.12B243 LEN by 1/2 LEN3:36.00 MR W JOHNSTONE
1874HARICOT4G16/1P PIGGOTT S HARDING6.7B184 LEN by NK3:37.5 MR A CHIRNSIDE
1875WOLLOMAI6H16/1R BATTY S MOON7.8B202 LEN by 4 LEN3:38.00 MR H SHARP
1876BRISEIS3F13/2P ST ALBANS JAMES WILSON6.4BR332 LEN by LEN3:36.25 MR J WILSON
1877CHESTER3C5/1P PIGOTT E DE MESTRE6.12B331/2 HD by 3 LEN3:33.5 THE HON J WHITE
1878CALAMIA5H10/1T BROWN E DE MESTRE8.2B302.5 LEN by 1.25 LEN3:35.75 MR E DE MESTRE
1879DARRIWELL5H33/1S CRACKNELL W DAKIN7.4BR271/2 LEN by HD3:30.75 MR W RAWLINSON
1880GRAND FLANEUR3C4/1T HALES T BROWN6.10B22LEN by 1/2 HD3:34.75 MR W A LONG
1881ZULU4H50/1JIM GOUGH T LAMOND5.10BL333/4 LEN by 3/4 LEN3:32.5 MR C MCDONNELL
1882THE ASSYRIAN5H33/1C HUTCHINS J E SAVILLE7.13BR251/2 LEN by 1/2 LEN3:40.00 MR J E SAVILLE
1883MARTINI-HENRI3C5/1fJ WILLIAMSON M FENNELLY7.5B291.5 LEN by HD3:30.5 HON J WHITE
1884MALUA5H6/1A ROBERTSON ISAAC FOULSHAM9.9B241/2 LEN by 2.5 LEN3:31.75 MR J O INGLIS
1885SHEET ANCHOR7H20/1M O'BRIEN T WILSON7.11BR35HD by 1/2 HD3:29.5 MR M LOUGHLIN
1886ARSENAL4H20/1W ENGLISH H RAYNER7.5BR28LONG NKby LEN3:31.00 MR W GANNON
1887DUNLOP5H20/1T SANDERS J NICHOLSON8.3BR18LEN by LEN3:28.5 MR R DONOVAN
1888MENTOR4H7/1M O'BRIEN W S HICKENBOTHAM8.3B281.5 LEN by LEN3:30.75 MR D S WALLACE
1889BRAVO6H8/1J ANWIN T WILSON8.7B20LEN by 1/2 NK3:32.5 MR W T JONES
1890CARBINE5H4/1fR RAMAGE W S HICKENBOTHAM10.5B392.5 LEN by 1/2 LEN3:28.25 MR D S WALLACE
1891MALVOLIO4H16/1G REDFEARN JAMES REDFEARN8.4B343/4 LEN by NK3:29.25 MR J REDFEARN
1892GLENLOTH5H50/1G ROBSON M CARMODY7.13BR353 LEN by 1.5 LEN3:36.25 MR M CARMODY
1893TARCOOLA7H40/1H CRIPPS J CRIPPS8.4B301/2 LEN by HD3:30.5 MR J D LEWIS
1894PATRON4H33/1H G DAWES R BRADFIELD9.3CH283/4 LEN by NK3:31.00 F W PURCHES
1895AURARIA3F33/1J STEVENSON J H HILL7.4BR36NKby 1.5 LEN3:29.00 MR D JAMES
1896NEWHAVEN3H4/1fH J GARDINER W S HICKENBOTHAM7.13CH256 LEN by 2.5 LEN3:28.5 MESSRS W T JONES W COOPER
1897GAULUS6H14/1S CALLINAN W FORRESTER7.8CH291/2 HD by 4 LEN3:31.00 MR W FORRESTER
1898THE GRAFTER5G8/1JOHN GOUGH W FORRESTER9.2BR281/2 NKby 3/4 LEN3:29.75 MR W FORRESTER
1899MERRIWEE3C7/1efV TURNER J WILSON JNR7.6BR28LEN by LEN3:36.25 MR H POWER
1900CLEAN SWEEP3C20/1A RICHARDSON JAMES SCOBIE7.0BL291.5 LEN by 3/4 LEN3:29.00 MR FT FORREST
1901REVENUE5G7/4fF DUNN H MUNRO7.10B191/2 LEN by 4 LEN3:30.5 MR CL MACDONALD
1902THE VICTORY4H25/1R LEWIS R BRADFIELD8.12B22NKby 1/2 LEN3:29.00 MESSRS W CLARK and L ROBINSON
1903LORD CARDIGAN3C5/1N GODBY A E CORNWELL6.8BR243/4 LEN by HD3:29.25 MR J MAYO
1904ACRASIA7M14/1T CLAYTON A E WILLS7.6B343/4 LEN by 3/4 LEN3:28.25 MR H OXENHAM
1905BLUE SPEC6H10/1F BULLOCK W S HICKENBOTHAM8.0BR273/4 LEN by 1/2 LEN3:27.5 MR P A CONNOLLY
1906POSEIDON3C4/1T CLAYTON I EARNSHAW7.6B211.5 LEN by 3/4 LEN3:31.5 MR U R ROBERTSON
1907APOLOGUE5H3/1fW EVANS I EARNSHAW7.9B193/4 LEN by 3 LEN3:27.5 MR R L CLELAND
1908LORD NOLAN3C16/1J FLYNN E A MAYO6.10B221/2 HD by 2.5 LEN3:28.75 MR J MAYO
1909PRINCE FOOTE3H4/1efW MCLACHLAN F MCGRATH7.8B263 LEN by HD3:27.5 MR J BROWN
1910COMEDY KING4H10/1W MCLACHLAN J LYNCH7.11BL301/2 NKby 2 LEN3:27:75 MR S GREEN
1911THE PARISIAN6G5/1R CAMERON C WHEELER8.9BR332 LEN by HD3:27.75 MR J KIRBY
1912PIASTRE4H7/1A SHANAHAN R O'CONNOR7.9B231.5 LEN by 3/4 LEN3:27.5 MR W BROWN
1913POSINATUS5G15/1A SHANAHAN J CHAMBERS7.10B203/4 LEN by 1.5 LEN3:31.0 MR J CHAMBERS
1914KINGSBURGH4H20/1G MEDDICK I FOULSHAM6.12CH28NKby 1.5 LEN3:26.00 MR LKS MACKINNON
1915PATROBAS3C8/1R LEWIS C WHEELER7.6BR241/2 NKby LEN3:28.5 MRS E A WIDDIS
1916SASANOF3G12/1F FOLEY MURRAY HOBBS6.12BR282.5 LEN by 3.5 LEN3:27.75 MESSRS W G STEAD and ES LUTTRELL
1917WESTCOURT5H4/1W MCLACHLAN J BURTON8.5BR20SHT 1/2 HD by 2 LEN3:26.75 MR D U SEATON
1918NIGHT WATCH5G12/1W DUNCAN R BRADFIELD6.9B271/2 LEN by NK3:25.75 MR C L MACDONALD
1919ARTILLERYMAN3C10/1R LEWIS P T HEYWOOD7.6BR206 LEN by 1/2 LEN3:24.5 SIR SAMUEL HORDERN and AD MURPHY
1920POITREL6H8/1K BRACKEN H J ROBINSON10.0CH231/2 LEN by 2 LEN3:25.75 MESSRS W and FA MOSES
1921SISTER OLIVE3F16/1E O'SULLIVAN J WILLIAMS6.9CH253/4 LEN by HD3:27.75 MR F W NORMAN
1922KING INGODA4H8/1A WILSON J SCOBIE7.1BR321/2 NKby 2.5 LEN3:28.25 MESSRS C L DUBOIS and R W BENNETT
1923BITALLI5G4/1fA WILSON J SCOBIE7.0BR263/4 LEN by 1.5 LEN3:24.25 MR A T CRAIG
1924BACKWOOD6H8/1P BROWN R BRADFIELD8.2B18HD by NK3:26.5 MESSRS E BAILLIEU W CLARKE and A HUGHES
1925WINDBAG4H5/1J MUNRO G PRICE9.2B281/2 LEN by LEN3:22.75 MR R MILLER
1926SPEARFELT5H10/1H CAIRNS V O'NEILL9.3BR211/2 LEN by NK3:22.75 MR D C GRANT
1927TRIVALVE3C6/1R LEWIS J SCOBIE7.6CH26LEN by 1.25 LEN3:24.00 MR EED CLARKE
1928STATESMAN4H7/2J MUNRO W KELSO8.0CH174 LEN by 3 LEN3:23.5 MR W KELSO
1929NIGHTMARCH4H6/1R REED A MCAULAY9.2BR143 LEN by LEN3:26.5 MR A LOUISSON
1930PHAR LAP4G8/11fJ PIKE H R TELFORD9.12CH153 LEN by 3/4 LEN3:27.75 MESSRS H R TELFORD and D J DAVIS
1931WHITE NOSE5H8/1N PERCIVAL E J HATWELL6.12BL142 LEN by 1/2 NK3:26.00 MR HP MCLACHLAN
1932PETER PAN3C4/1fW DUNCAN F MCGRATH 7.6CH27NKby 2 LEN.3:23.25 MR R DANGAR
1933HALL MARK3C4/1J O'SULLIVAN J HOLT 7.8CH18HD by HD3:27.25 MR C B KELLOW
1934PETER PAN5H14/1D MUNRO F MCGRATH9.10CH223 LEN by NK3:40.5 MR R R DANGAR
1935MARABOU4H9/2fK VOITRE L ROBERTSON7.11B222.5 LEN by 1/2 LEN3:23.75 MESSRS J FELL T HOGAN
1936WOTAN4H100/1O PHILLIPS J FRYER7.11BR20NKby 1.25 LEN3:21.25 MESSERS TAW and R SMITH
1937THE TRUMP5H11/2efA REED S REID8.5BG281/2 LEN by 1/2 HD3:21.5 MR E ECCLES
1938CATALOGUE8G25/1F SHEAN A W MCDONALD8.4B223 LEN by 2.5 LEN3:26.25 MRS A JAMIESON
1939RIVETTE6M5/1fE PRESTON H BAMBER7.9B261/2 LEN by 3/4 LEN3:27.00 MR H BAMBER
1940OLD ROWLEY7G100/1A KNOX J A SCULLY7.12CH203/4 LEN by NK3:26.00 MR J A SCULLY
1941SKIPTON3C8/1W COOK J FRYER7.7CH232.5 LEN by 3/4 LEN3:23.75 MRS J KITSON
1942COLONUS4H33/1H MCCLOUD F MANNING7.2B247 LEN by 5 LEN3:33.25 MR L O MENCK
1943DARK FELT6H7/2efV HARTNEY R WEBSTER8.4BR243 LEN by NK3:23.25 MR J A CAIN
1944SIRIUS4H3/1fD MUNRO E FISHER8.5CH231/2 LEN by 1.5 LEN3:24.5 MR R TURNBULL
1945RAINBIRD4M12/1W COOK S EVANS7.7CH262.5 LEN by 1 LEN3:24.25 MR CA REID
1946RUSSIA6H16/1D MUNRO E HUSH9.0CH355 LEN by 1/2 HD3:21.25 MESSRS J G LEEDS and E HUSH
1947HIRAJI4G12/1J PURTELL J W MCCURLEY7.11GR301/2 LEN by 2 LEN3:28.00 MR F W HUGHES
1948RIMFIRE6G80/1R NEVILLE S BOYDEN7.2CH301/2 HD by 3.5 LEN3:21.00 MR HG RAYMOND
1949FOXZAMI4H16/1W FELLOWS D LEWIS8.8B311.5 LEN by LONG NK3:28.5 MR L G ROBINSON
1950COMIC COURT5H25/1P GLENNON J M CUMMINGS9.5BR263 LEN by LEN3:19.5 MESSRS RA JD and AJ LEE
1951DELTA5H10/1N SELLWOOD M MCCARTEN9.5BR283/4 LEN by 3 LEN3:24.25 MR A BASSER
1952DALRAY4H5/1fW WILLIAMSON C C MCCARTHY9.8B301/2 LEN by 1.5 LEN3:23.75 MR C NEVILLE
1953WODALLA4H14/1J PURTELL R SINCLAIR8.4BR213/4 LEN by 2 LEN3:23.75 MR E A UNDERWOOD
1954RISING FAST5G5/2fJ PURTELL I J TUCKER9.5B/BR251.25 LEN by 1/2 NK3:23.00 MR L R SPRING
1955TOPAROA7G6/1N SELLWOOD T J SMITH7.8B243/4 LEN by 4 LEN3:28.25 MR N H MCDONALD
1956EVENING PEAL4M15/1G PODMORE E D LAWSON8.0BR221/2 NKby HD3:19.5 MR and MRS R WHITE
1957STRAIGHT DRAW5G13/2N MCGROWDIE J M MITCHELL8.5BG519NKby 2.5 LEN3:24.5 MR E NORTON
1958BAYSTONE6G10/1M SCHUMACHER JACK GREEN8.9B291.5 LEN by 3 LEN3:21.25 MESSRS RA and N BURNS
1959MACDOUGAL6G8/1P GLENNON R W RODEN8.11B283 LEN by 1/2 HD3:23.00 MR RN BROWN and EXORS NHB BROWN
1960HI JINX5M50/1W A SMITH T H KNOWLES7.10B321/2 NKby HD3:23.75 MESSRS T H KNOWLES and KR SLY
1961LORD FURY4H20/1R SELKRIG F B LEWIS7.8BR251.5 LEN by 4 LEN3:19.5 MR and MRS N S COHEN
1962EVEN STEVENS5H3/1fL COLES A MCGREGOR8.5CH264 LEN by 3 LEN3:21.4 MR J WATTIE
1963GATUM GATUM5G25/1J JOHNSON H G HEAGNEY7.12B26LEN by 3/4 LEN3:21.1 MR M P REID
1964POLO PRINCE6G12/1R TAYLOR J P CARTER8.3B261.25 LEN by 1/2 LEN3:19.6 MR and MRS L W DAVIS
1965LIGHT FINGERS4M15/1R HIGGINS J B CUMMINGS8.4CH26SHT 1/2 HD by 3.5 LEN3:21.1 MR W J BRODERICK
1966GALILEE4G11/2fJ MILLER J B CUMMINGS8.13B222 LEN by 1/2 HD3:21.9 MR and MRS ML BAILEY
1967RED HANDED5G4/1efR HIGGINS J B CUMMINGS8.9CH22NKby NK3:20.4 MESSRS FW CLARKE BM CONDON and AG TYSON UNPL
1968RAIN LOVER4H7/1J JOHNSON M L ROBINS8.2B268 LEN by 1.5 LEN3:19.1 MR CA REID UNPL E FAVS: LOWLAND ARCTIC COAST
1969RAIN LOVER5H8/1J JOHNSON M L ROBINS9.7B23HD by 2 LEN3:21.5 MR CA REID
1970BAGHDAD NOTE5G25/1E J DIDHAM R HEASLEY8.7GR233/4 LEN by 1/2 HD3:19.7 MR ECS FALCONER
1971SILVER KNIGHT4H10/1R B MARSH E TEMPERTON8.9GR211.25 LEN by 1.5 LEN3:19.5 SIR W NORWOOD
1972PIPING LANE6G40/1J LETTS G M HANLON48BR221.25 LEN by LNG NECK3:19.32 MR R W TRINDER
1973GALA SUPREME4G9/1F REYS R J HUTCHINS49BR24LONG HD by 1/2 LEN3:19.5 MR J P CURTAIN
1974THINK BIG4G12/1H WHITE J B CUMMINGS53B22LEN by LEN3:23.2 MESSRS RJ O'SULLIVAN and CN TAN
1975THINK BIG5G33/1H WHITE J B CUMMINGS58.5B203/4 LEN by 3 LEN3:29.6 MESSRS RJ O'SULLIVAN CN TAN and TUNKU ABDUL R
1976VAN DER HUM5G9/2fR J SKELTON L H ROBINSON54.5CH232 LEN by 1/2 LEN3:34.1 MESSRS LH and RA ROBINSON &; ELG ABEL
1977GOLD AND BLACK5G7/2fJ DUGGAN J B CUMMINGS57BR24LEN by 2.5 LEN3:18.4 MR and MRS J HARRIS &; MR & MRS H B GAGE
1978ARWON5G5/1H WHITE G M HANLON50.5B/BR221/2 NKby NK3:24.3 DOON BROS SYND (MGR E C DOON) and MESSRS RAWILS
1979HYPERNO6G7/1H WHITE J B CUMMINGS56B/BR22SHT 1/2 HD by 1.75 LEN3:21.8 MR and MRS TL NORTH MR &; MRS G HERSCU & DR R L
1980BELDALE BALL5H11/1J LETTS C S HAYES49.5BR221.5 LEN by 2 LEN3:19.8 SWETTENHAM STUD SYN (MGR RE SANGSTER)
1981JUST A DASH4G15/1P COOK T J SMITH53.5B222.25 LEN by 1.25 LEN3:21.2 MESSRS LJ WILLIAMS GN FREW and TR PETTIONA
1982GURNER'S LANE4G8/1L DITTMAN G T MURPHY56CH23NKby 2 LEN3:21.2 WILLIAM STREET SYND NO 2 (MGRS AP RAMSDEN and TM
1983KIWI6G9/1J CASSIDY E S LUPTON52CH241.75 LEN by HD3:18.9 MR and MRS ES LUPTON
1984BLACK KNIGHT5G10/1P COOK G M HANLON 50B/BR192.5 LEN by NK3:18.9 MR HOLMES A'COURT
1985WHAT A NUISANCE7G15/1P HYLAND J F MEAGHER 52.5BG23SHT HD by 3/4 LEN3:23.0 MR and MRS LJ WILLIAMS &; D GOWING
1986AT TALAQ6S10/1M CLARKE C S HAYES54.5B22LONG NKby NK3:21.7 SHEIKH HAMDAN BIN RASHID AL MAKTOUM
1987KENSEI5G12/1L OLSEN L J BRIDGE51.5CH211/2 LEN by SHT 1/2 HD3:22.0 KM MITCHELL AT MCDONELL T STRICKLAND AE
1988EMPIRE ROSE6M5/1efT ALLAN L K LAXON53.5CH221/2 HD by 1.75 LEN3:18.9 MR and MRS FR &; TJ BODLE
1989TAWRRIFIC5S30/1R S DYE D L FREEDMAN54B232.25 LEN by SHT 1/2 HD3:17.1 BF AVERY BM and MRS MM GRIFFITHS &; E MCKEON
1990KINGSTON RULE5H7/1efD BEADMAN J B CUMMINGS53CH24LEN by NK3:16.3 MR and MRS D H HAINS
1991LET'S ELOPE4M3/1fSTEVEN KING J B CUMMINGS51CH242.5 LEN by HD3:18.9 SHOREHAM PARK PTY LTD SYND (MGR D MARKS) and K W
1992SUBZERO4H4/1GREG HALL D L FREEDMAN54.5GR211.75 LEN by 1.25 LEN3:24.7 DHK INVESTMENTS PTY LTD (MGR D KOBRITZ)A BR
1993VINTAGE CROP7G14/1M KINANE D K WELD55.5CH243 LEN by 1/2 HD3:23.4 DR M W SMURFIT
1994JEUNE6S16/1W HARRIS D A HAYES 56.5CH241.75 LEN by 1/2 NK3:19.8 SHEIKH HAMDAN BIN RASHID AL MAKTOUM
1995DORIEMUS5G16/1D OLIVER D L FREEDMAN54.5CH214 LEN by NK3:27.6 PACERS AUST SYND MRS K WOODRUFF J R SMITH
1996SAINTLY4G8/1D BEADMAN J B CUMMINGS55.5CH222 LEN by NK3:18.8. J B CUMMINGS DATO TAN CHIN NAM DR C P LIM
1997MIGHT AND POWER4G7/2fJ CASSIDY J DENHAM56B22SHT 1/2 HD by 1/2 LEN3:18.33 MR N MORAITIS
1998JEZABEEL6M6/1fC MUNCE B L JENKINS51BR24NKby 1/2 LEN3:18.59 A K BURR B L JENKINS and P TATHAN
1999ROGAN JOSH7G5/1J MARSHALL J B CUMMINGS50B241/2 LEN by 1/2 NK3:19.64 MRS W L GREEN and J P MILLER
2000BREW6G14/1K MCEVOY M D MORONEY49B222 LEN by 1.25 LEN3:18.68 GURNER'S BLOODSTOCK CO (MGR A G RAMSDEN) G G
2001ETHEREAL4M9/1S SEAMER SHEILA LAXON52B223/4 LEN by 6 LEN3:21.08 MESSRS P J and P M VELA'S
2002MEDIA PUZZLE5G11/2D OLIVER D K WELD52.5CH222 LEN by LG NK3:16.97 DR W J SMURFIT and D R KEOUGH
2003MAKYBE DIVA5M7/1G BOSS DAVID HALL51B221.3L BY 4.3L3:19.9 EMILY KRSTINA (AUST) PTY LTD
2004MAKYBE DIVA6M$3.60G BOSS LEE FREEDMAN55.5B241.3L BY 3.8L3:28.55.9 EMILY KRSTINA (AUST) PTY LTD
2005MAKYBE DIVA7M$4.40G BOSS LEE FREEDMAN58B241.3L by 1.8L3:19.79 EMILY KRSTINA (AUST) PTY LTD
2006DELTA BLUES5H$18.00KATSUHIKO SUMII YASUNARI IWATA56B230.1L by 4.6L3:21.42 SUNDAY RACING LTD

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« 2018-Jan-23, 07:34 AM Reply #22 »
Just an observation and perhaps a bit off topic; although it is a part of 'racing history'

Reasonably sure that compulsory decimal / (dividend) 'odds' for bookies' boards came into place in Qld in 2001

In the above list they apply from 2004 . . perhaps Vic was different

Makes no difference whatever . . as I said, just an observation

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« 2018-Jan-24, 02:30 PM Reply #23 »
Here's Bogan Road's full record

Bogan Road
Bay Colt (1959) by Wilkes from Pittura

19 starts 9/3/1

2yo 1961-62
10 starts
6/-/1


1st – 4/10/1961 Randwick Canonbury Stakes 5f, 8st 5lb (A. Gallagher), 2nd Pataudi (8st 5lb), 3rd Lloyd (8st 5lb), 57.9sec (Race Record), 8 lengths, 1Ό lengths
1st – 14/10/1961 Randwick George Negus Stakes 5f, 8st 12lb (A. Gallagher), 2nd Cashel Blue (8st 5lb), 3rd Sharego (8st 5lb), 59sec, 5 lengths, length
1st – 21/10/1961 Warwick Farm AJC Two-Year-Old Stakes 9f, 9st 1lb (A. Gallagher), 2nd Tantrum 8st 5lb, 3rd Captain Cutlass (8st 5lb), 58.7sec (Course Record), 5 lengths, neck
1st – 28/10/1961 Rosehill STC Two-Year-Old Hcp 4½f, 9st 5lb (A. Gallagher), 2nd Port Fair (8st 12lb), 3rd Edmund River (8st 5lb), 54.3sec (Race Record), 3 lengths, 1Ό lengths

3rd – 3/3/1962 Canterbury Two-Year-Old Quality Hcp 6f, 9st 5lb (A. Gallagher), 1st Persian Market (7st), 2nd The Tempest (7st 2lb), 1min 12.7sec, 1Ό lengths, long neck
5th – 17/3/1962 Rosehill Flying Hcp 6f, 7st 5lb (J. Thompson), 1st Kilshery (7st 13lb), 2nd Minikin (7st 1lb), 3rd Fine and Dandy (9st 8lb), 1min 11.2sec, 1½ lengths, 1Ό lengths
6th – 31/3/1962 Rosehill AJC Golden Slipper 6f, 8st 7lb (A. Gallagher), 1st Birthday Card (8st), 2nd Proud Miss (8st), 3rd Grammar Lad (8st 7lb), 1min 11.4sec, 2 lengths, neck
1st – 14/4/1962 Randwick AJC Sires’ Produce Stakes 7f, 8st 10lb (A. Gallagher), 2nd Grammar Lad (8st 10lb), 3rd Birthday Card (8st 8lb), 1min 25.9sec, long head, 1½ lengths
1st – 18/4/1962 Randwick AJC Champagne Stakes 6f, 9st 3lb (A. Gallagher), 2nd Grammar Lad (8st 10lb), 3rd Birthday Card (9st 1lb), 1min 13.6sec, Ύ length, 5 lengths

14th – 2/6/1962 QTC Stradbroke Hcp 7f, 7st 8lb (A. Gallagher), 1st Kilshery (8st 10lb), 2nd Samson (8st), 3rd Fine and Dandy (9st 2lb), 1min 23.1sec, 3 lengths, nose

3yo 1962-63
4 starts
3/1/-


1st – 11/8/1962 Warwick Farm Campbelltown Hcp 6f, 8st 2lb (F. Hood), 2nd Icebound (7st 3lb), 3rd Royal Emblem (8st 1lb), 1min 13½ sec, 3 lengths, 1Ό lengths
1st – 2/9/1962 Randwick Tramway Hcp 7f, 8st 6lb (F. Hood), 2nd Birthday Card (7st 8lb), 3rd Wenona Girl (8st 11lb), 1min 22.4sec, 2½ lengths, Ύ length
1st – 15/9/1962 Rosehill Guineas 10f, 8st 5lb (A. Mulley), 2nd Summer Prince (8st 5lb), 3rd Lancelot (8st 5lb), 2min 3.2sec, 4 lengths, length

2nd – 29/9/1962 Randwick AJC Derby 12f, 8st 10lb (A. Mulley), 1st Summer Prince (8st 10lb), 3rd King Roto (8st 10lb), 2min 29.7sec, 2½ lengths, 10 lengths

4yo 1963-64
5 starts
-/2/-


9th – 24/8/1963 Warwick Farm Wallacia Hcp 5½f, 9st 5lb (F. Hood), 1st Here I Come (7st 11lb), 2nd Aureo (7st 6lb), 3rd Skid (7st 4lb), 1min 6.7sec, 2 lengths, 1Ό lengths
2nd – 18/9/1963 Newcastle Cameron Hcp 7f, 8st 13lb (F. Hood), 1st Glorious Kingdom (7st 8lb), 3rd Straight Ahead (7st 8lb), 1min 23.1sec, Ύ length, length
2nd – 21/9/1963 Rosehill Theo Marks Quality Hcp 7f, 8st 10lb (F. Hood), 1st Time and Tide (8st 2lb), 3rd Gay Knight (7st 6lb), 1min 23½ sec, ½ neck, short half-head
4th – 28/9/1963 Randwick Telegraph Stakes 7f, 9st 1lb (F. Hood), 1st Kilshery (9st 2lb), 2nd Wenona Girl (9st 2lb), 3rd Persian Puzzle (8st 1lb), 1min 22.2sec, 1Ό lengths, long neck
7th – 5/10/1963 Randwick Epsom Hcp 1 mile, 9st 4lb (F. Hood), 1st Toi Port (7st 7lb), 2nd Persian Puzzle (8st 4lb), 3rd Time and Tide (7st 13lb), 1min 35.3sec, 2 lengths, long-neck
« Last Edit: 2018-Jan-25, 09:44 AM by pwa54 »

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« 2018-Jan-24, 03:57 PM Reply #24 »
Thanks for that PWA, very interesting. First four starts over four weeks.


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