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Offline ratsack

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« 2017-Jun-08, 09:34 PM Reply #25 »
staking 
 
 :clap2:   :bye:
« Last Edit: 2017-Jun-08, 09:37 PM by ratsack »

Offline dean

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« 2017-Jun-08, 10:11 PM Reply #26 »
Could you elaborate on what you meant by this post. Thanks

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2017-Jun-09, 07:54 AM Reply #27 »
well Pete I'm game , no guarantee's here mate


hopefully i will have a win or two      emthup

Everytime he's gone head to head with anyone or been challenged, he has failed. Rats, you're bound to find plenty there on Petes past history  :lol:

Offline ratsack

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« 2017-Jun-09, 09:00 PM Reply #28 »
well Pete I'm game , no guarantee's here mate

Brisbane
R1 #4
R2 #5
R3 #6
R4 #7
R5 #13
R6  #11* (My mates tip)
R7 #3
R8 #15
R9 #12
now how you use these , is your prob

hopefully i will have a win or two       emthup

Dean
it was a follow on post from this one       :shrug:

thought i could help Mr Mair   

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« 2017-Jun-09, 09:33 PM Reply #29 »
Sorry, unless you are the famous Dr Hackenbush reincarnated I think assistance to Mr Mair is beyond the scope of any rational human being.

Offline ratsack

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« 2017-Jun-09, 10:15 PM Reply #30 »
Sorry, unless you are the famous Dr Hackenbush reincarnated I think assistance to Mr Mair is beyond the scope of any rational human being.

rational        :lol:

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2017-Jun-10, 08:29 AM Reply #31 »
I dont buy papers and Peter wont put montys 527 selections on here as he's too scared.
Can anyone post his tips

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« 2017-Jun-12, 10:42 PM Reply #32 »

I was away and out of range this weekend.

I am thinking that rat-sacked has been -- none out of 9.

......... to get Montys tips, wily-od may need to phone a friend who buys the SMH on Saturdays

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2017-Jun-13, 08:04 AM Reply #33 »
Far better to do your own peter if your putting you're own money on :bulb:

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« 2017-Jun-14, 06:47 PM Reply #34 »


................au contraire mon wily one

Monty cleaned up at Canterbury today -- 2 F4s totalling 750 (+ trifectas) and, for a total of  1250, both quadrellas with 1/1, 3/2, 2/3 and 1/5, for an average of his 2.5th selection.

Stupido, Monty's promoter, who picked his own,  managed to lose comprehensively while having 6 of the 7 but missing the critical 4th leg / 1st leg winners.

Keep your faith wily -- do not follow Monty's tips -- lest my dividends be lowered.

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2017-Jun-14, 07:46 PM Reply #35 »
Notice you haven't posted his results from last week end

Offline ratsack

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« 2017-Jun-14, 07:52 PM Reply #36 »
Notice you haven't posted his results from last week end

he posted mine     :lol:

bad week   :shy:

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2017-Jun-17, 08:23 PM Reply #37 »

Monty money

............ Monty had another blinder in Sydney today......... he included every winner in his, mainly 4, live tips........... he put 5 in a row on top in the middle and started and ended the day with his 2nd and 3rd selections winning.

In two races his tips won the F4, and in five other races had 3 of the F4 placings ....... i.e. in six races he had the trifecta.

These results say something about Monty .......... they also say something about the shambles that is Racing Victoria where again today it was a wipe-out for most punters.


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« 2017-Jun-18, 10:01 AM Reply #38 »
So let's put some honesty in peters post.

Monty in most races picked, on average, half the field in his selections.
5 selections  in fields of 7,8,9 & 10
Then he couldn't even snare the F4 but thanks Peter, he got a tri :clap2:


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« 2017-Jun-18, 10:07 AM Reply #39 »
By the way Peter. I also noted 5 selections of my own in every race at Rosehill yesterday and race 5 was the only race where my selections didn't return a f4 divvy

It's not hard but not feasible for average punters to back all 45 selections across a 9 race program  :bulb:

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« 2017-Jun-18, 10:22 AM Reply #40 »
And further to that Peter. You may not be aware that it costs $120 to box 5 in a trifecta

Some of the Trifecta Dividends from Rosehill were
$106
$57
$101
$75
$160
$160
$109

  :lol:


Offline Peter Mair

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« 2017-Jun-18, 07:22 PM Reply #41 »


'wily'................... with the ability you have, it may be helpful if you would share your selections with forum readers on Saturday mornings.

If you can match, or do better than, Monty I would be the first to put a case for your recruitment as a paid media tipster.

The competition for a slot in the media as a tipster is keen but it will be worth a shot once your credentials are established on the forum.

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« 2017-Jun-18, 08:25 PM Reply #42 »
There's no credibility in having 45 picks a meeting. That's the point in regards to your hero :bulb:

You hold his nonsense up as a way of running the industry down. No sane person is interested in his thoughts

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2017-Jun-19, 02:01 PM Reply #43 »


.......... the '45 tips' are not presented as a set of random numbers..........rather they are ranked in terms of expected finishing order ...........and, as known, the horses more highly ranked do better than those ranked lower ------------ and there are indicative odds to suggest relative chances.

Between the lines I guess we will not be getting any tips from the wily one on Saturday mornings.

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2017-Jun-19, 02:05 PM Reply #44 »
You post montys and I'll happily post mine.
The relevance to the rest of the forum members is lost on me but the balls I your court

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« 2017-Jun-19, 03:55 PM Reply #45 »
You post montys and I'll happily post mine.
The relevance to the rest of the forum members is lost on me but the balls I your court
Wily, I must say whoever does Monty's rating is a pretty fair assessor.
Considering they would have to meet a deadline and they would sometimes be done on an often unknown racing surface.

Not sure how much time you have on your hands but I would say you are on a hiding to nothing.
I tried ratings years ago and many times I just found the top few in the market.
Lot of work and the fun seemed to disappear.

Good luck if you try it.
 

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« 2017-Jun-19, 04:52 PM Reply #46 »
Get your point mate but I was thinking I would be like Peter. Don't do much work and hope for the best  :lol:
45 darts a meeting, everyone can jag something

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« 2017-Jun-19, 07:01 PM Reply #47 »
The question should be how best to use those 5 selections?  :chin:

Peter obviously likes Monty & believes in him, his job should be to show how to turn a profit from them  :bulb:

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2017-Jun-19, 09:46 PM Reply #48 »

Monty does his own tipping

Neither I nor, I suspect,  Monty go to the races these days -- going is a disadvantage.

Monty is a very real person -- not sure that he ever has a bet -- but he knows what he is doing and he puts in the time to do it well.

He does it well -- very. very well.

I stopped running my own super fund many years ago -- as with tipsters like Monty, among others,  professional stock analysts do what I cannot.

My problem is doing the form myself and backing my judgment -- to my disappointment.

What Monty and others cannot do is anticipate when a horse will be smoked in -- ready to win. These surprise winners win alright but all the clues are buried in some long past form, unless you are in on the joke you will not know.

What punters do know is that it is very possible for connections  to get one ready to win, on its merits.

Sometimes that 'gen' is shared with a journalist -- confident that it  will be ignored as a 'tip'.

That's why 'Saturday class' -- known form --  is preferred and rural and regional racing shunned.

As for turning a profit from Monty, choose wisely -- but do not ignore his top three getting a run.

[I have not seen or talked to Monty for more than 10 years -- but he is the real deal]


[PS -- Monty posts his tips under copyright -- wily ones buy the paper -- wily could post his tips but wont]

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2017-Jun-20, 08:02 AM Reply #49 »
You miss the point yet again  Peter.
Nobody is interested in my tips or Montys :bulb: Geez, if the bloke doesn't even bet, it makes him less relevant

Happy to have a little side bet with you each week if you wish. You post "your" top 5 and I'll do mine


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