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Offline The VB Punter

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O.P. « 2019-Jul-23, 06:08 PM »
Hi All,
New to the forum, and I was looking for some assistance in trying to find some smart horses to back for the major races throughout the upcoming season. Feel free to list any horse you think that might be a future star over the next seasons racing.
Mystic Journey looks a standout at this stage, but there maybe a kiwi raider or international horse that may tear the carnival a new one. Some real smokies would be nice to follow.

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« 2020-Jan-03, 12:46 PM Reply #1 »
ON RadioTAB today interesting interview of Gerry Harvey with Steve Hewlitt ..Gerry has around 550 broodmares ....he would rather breed than race ..he won't be buying any yearlings at the MM sales he's a seller rather than a buyer apart from broodmares but he thinks he has a good one with Gary Portelli which won a trial yesterday PARCHE is its name it was impressive although the time wasn't anything to rave about another one SPACEBOY from Portelli was very impressive links to both trials below.

https://mdata.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Results.aspx?Key=2020Jan02,NSW,Warwick%20Farm,Trial trial3

https://mdata.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Results.aspx?Key=2020Jan02,NSW,Warwick%20Farm,Trial trial5


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« 2020-Jan-03, 02:31 PM Reply #2 »
I don't know about Mystic Journey being a "standout" - lost some of the gloss in the Spring IMO. Still the obvious pick in the All Star but noted she is equal favourite with NZ Empire Rose winner Melody Belle and Epsom-Golden Eagle winner Kolding - both who are worthy opponents. MB is outright favourite for the Australian Cup.

A horse I was taken with was the Derby winner Warning. I think he can win the Derby double and perhaps even a race like the Tancred if they go that way.

It was a strong Derby year and I think a couple of the beaten brigade shouldn't be written off because they failed over the 2500m. Shadow Hero and Thought Of That look capable of winning 3YO Group races up to 2000m.

Will be interesting to see the Everest winner Yes, Yes, Yes when he returns. Still eligible to run against his 3YO peers at set weights and gets in nicely in WFA - perhaps the TJ Smith?

Oaks winner Miami Bound hasn't done much wrong and won the Oaks easily but the 2nd horse Never Listen and 3rd horse Moonlight Maid were never going to win from back where they were and might be better suited at Randwick (you could make a similar argument for Shadow Hero). All 3 worth following.

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« 2020-Jan-03, 03:58 PM Reply #3 »
Parche has had 2 runs. Backed it in both. Dead stiff first run. Woeful 2nd :chin:

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« 2020-Jan-03, 04:42 PM Reply #4 »
I don't know about Mystic Journey being a "standout" - lost some of the gloss in the Spring IMO. Still the obvious pick in the All Star but noted she is equal favourite with NZ Empire Rose winner Melody Belle and Epsom-Golden Eagle winner Kolding - both who are worthy opponents. MB is outright favourite for the Australian Cup.

A horse I was taken with was the Derby winner Warning. I think he can win the Derby double and perhaps even a race like the Tancred if they go that way.

It was a strong Derby year and I think a couple of the beaten brigade shouldn't be written off because they failed over the 2500m. Shadow Hero and Thought Of That look capable of winning 3YO Group races up to 2000m.

Will be interesting to see the Everest winner Yes, Yes, Yes when he returns. Still eligible to run against his 3YO peers at set weights and gets in nicely in WFA - perhaps the TJ Smith?

Oaks winner Miami Bound hasn't done much wrong and won the Oaks easily but the 2nd horse Never Listen and 3rd horse Moonlight Maid were never going to win from back where they were and might be better suited at Randwick (you could make a similar argument for Shadow Hero). All 3 worth following.

Have to agree partially with you.

Shadow Hero was too far back and not sure if track suited him too as he just did not accelerate in the Derby.He did beat Castlevechio in the spring.  You are right for upto 2000m because the 2400m might stretch his brilliance.

I am interested with Yes, Yes, Yes due to Biovac and Exceedance.  It will be interesting to see them clash.

I also think Nature Strip will be hard to beat in anything it contests.

Warning is another runner to consider but normally  VRC Derby winners don’t back up. I stand to be corrected by Mahoghany was the last dual winner.

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« 2020-Jan-19, 12:26 AM Reply #5 »
Cellsabeel, Lashes and Personal from today.


There is a new Slipper favorite following the stunning 6 length win of the Maher/Eustace trained Cellsabeel at Rosehill today

“She’s very good I think,” said Ciaron Maher, who saddled Away Game to win last week’s Magic Millions 2YO Classic.

“She put the writing on the wall at her first start. Tommy gave her a beautiful ride and produced her at the right time.

“We put the shades on just to help her focus that bit more.”

Maher was non-committal about a start in the $2million Inglis Millennium next month for which she is eligible, declaring the Golden Slipper was her number one goal.


https://breednet.com.au/news/9185/golden-slipper-filly-for-hinchinbrook

https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2020Jan18&VenueCode=MTI1OTg5&RaceNumber=1&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay



Lashes has never run past 1100m but races like a horse who could get a mile - another strong performance by the I Am Invincible mare today.  She seems to be running away from them easily at the end of her races thus my comments about the 1100m.

https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2020Jan18&VenueCode=MTI1OTg5&RaceNumber=3&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay



The $640k paid for Personal is looking cheap tonight following win at Flemington today. David Hayes has her down as a Sires horse rather than one for the Slipper.

“I see her probably more as a Sires’ (Sires’ Produce 1400m) type of filly rather than a sprinter, Miss Finland was that way. She might need to go fresh into the Blue Diamond straight off this win.”

A $640,000 Inglis Easter purchase from the Cressfield draft for Tom Magnier/ BBA Ireland, Personal runs in the Coolmore navy blue for Coolmore and partners, that include Adrian Niccol, who selected the filly.

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Personal is bred on the highly successful Fastnet Rock x Galileo cross that has produced 17 stakes-winners, seven of them Group I winners. The nick runs at 23.9% stakes-winners to runners!


https://breednet.com.au/news/9188/fastnet-filly-impressive-at-flemington


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« 2020-Jan-19, 07:29 AM Reply #6 »
Parche has had 2 runs. Backed it in both. Dead stiff first run. Woeful 2nd :chin:

Woeful 3rd run

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« 2020-Jan-23, 03:28 PM Reply #7 »
Once Tramonto learns to behave he'll win for sure .....first start in a race after distant second in a SC trial .....yesty showed brilliant early speed before taking charge of Glen Boss and was not competitive thereafter.

Above was posted after he ran last at the GC on 4 Jan today he was reproduced at Doomben ran a good second.

https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/racing-and-results/video-replays/player/thoroughbred/doom/20200123/race/1

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« 2020-Jan-26, 11:55 AM Reply #8 »
Caulfield R1 yesty MARIAMIA a forget run

Mariamia Shortly after the start apprentice Jessica Eaton lost the use of her offside iron which had become unbuckled. Jessica Eaton then removed her left foot from the nearside iron approaching the 1000m and as a result was greatly disadvantaged in riding the filly. Raced wide without cover throughout.

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« 2020-Jan-29, 05:10 PM Reply #9 »
Woeful 3rd run

Parche won today at Kembla.

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« 2020-Jan-29, 06:58 PM Reply #10 »
2nd fav.

Where's PM?

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« 2020-Jan-29, 10:26 PM Reply #11 »
Parche won today at Kembla.
That'll teach me opened at $2.50 drifted to $4.20 no bet that's two in a row I missed out on the other one was $1.70 which I didn't take too short finished a lot shorter and never looked like losing...have one to follow in  tomorrow Doomben R5 2. Invincible Al (9) probably put the mock on it now. :tears:


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« 2020-Jan-30, 06:25 AM Reply #12 »
Arsey, Al has appeared to be a bit disappointing up there. Why do you like him?

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« 2020-Jan-30, 08:55 AM Reply #13 »
Arsey, Al has appeared to be a bit disappointing up there. Why do you like him?
That's a good question..probably after Tony Gollan's comments he does a video each Thursday (Gollan Racing on Vimeo) I thought his last run wasn't as bad as it looks on paper ...7/15 ran 1.11.5 it was a strong field and despite being wide and suffering some knocking around he was still in it to the last 200m or so this race is weaker but there are several other chances Gollan has Natch which is shorter in the market...Emerald Kingdom is going well Boom Chicka Boom and Sister Patti are all chances...probably only a rough chance hope it runs a drum.

https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/racing-and-results/full-calendar/thoroughbred/meeting/e%20fm/20200118/race/9
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Eagle Farm R9 18/01/2020 - BM90 Hcp
1200m Soft5 +6m Entire Course $75K Baylee Nothdurft (a) (12) 57 (cd55.5) (L: 54) Flucs: $21 $26 ; 1:10.800 (600/35.230) 4@800m, 2@400m. 1-Pennino (S Thornton, 5) 54 , 2-Impasse (R Fradd, 13) 54.5 1.5L , 3-Femme Fireball (R Stewart, 4) 54 3.25L . Bumped start, 3WNC 4th 3L 800m, 4w O/L home t, Wd F - BGW Rtg: 86 0 horse(s) from this race have won since. Full Results

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« 2020-Jan-30, 08:33 PM Reply #14 »
You right about his last run but his pattern is that he doesn’t win after this many runs in a prep.

In saying that he is the best horse in the race

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« 2020-Feb-04, 11:43 AM Reply #15 »
Hanseatic.
Will have his own thread soon!
Future Champeen...

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« 2020-Feb-05, 06:39 AM Reply #16 »
There are some big things expected from Shared Ambition. I am not sure if he has the brilliance for a WFA G1 race at this stage of his career but it is a Waller horse.

Without saying the obvious but Shadow Hero was expected to be hard to beat in some of the staying races in the Aitumn. However expected rain may lengthen those odds.

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« 2020-Feb-05, 02:00 PM Reply #17 »
Joe Pride says his mare Fasika has come back into the stables "better than ever".

Very capable of winning a Group race.

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« 2020-Feb-08, 07:25 PM Reply #18 »
Blue Diamond fave, after brilliant win.
Hanseatic the Great.


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