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Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Oct-22, 06:12 PM Reply #1025 »

Another day of 'rat' racing ............ before a wet weekend unfolds at the Vale 

At 'smelleratt' today, the EQ  'paid' $145,000 ...the main Q 16k .....associated F4s included a 10k, 15k & 18k.

Looking ahead ...............  a long feared nightmare is set to unfold with18 races run over 24 hours on a Vale track likely to get some 25 to 50 mm of rain over before noon on Saturday.

.. this nightmare is more likely to disturb most punters than it will the coffers of RVL and its bookmaker and syndicate associates.



.... Sundays post-mortem on the likely outcome at the Vale will be illustrative.




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« 2020-Oct-24, 05:57 PM Reply #1026 »

.... Sundays post-mortem on the likely outcome at the Vale will be illustrative.


We'll all be waiting.

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« 2020-Oct-24, 06:20 PM Reply #1027 »


Not much to say ............. all went pretty well

The rain did not come on Friday so the Vale track was in fair shape this morning and the race outcomes credible.
 
If Monty is the benchmark then the day went well ............ a few rough results spoiled the day for most punters but mainly ok ................

The pressure to abandon the double-header did not eventuate.


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« 2020-Oct-24, 06:24 PM Reply #1028 »

We'll all be waiting.

No we won’t the bloke will speak shit

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« 2020-Oct-28, 07:49 PM Reply #1029 »


Victoria Derby-day ........... once wonderful .......... now not so

........... across the board .......... very few Derby-Day starters have pre-post SPs over 10/1 ......... overall, the fields are grossly inflated with Bradburys ............ not least the four races for early 3yros ............ not least three down-the-straight races over 1100 and 1200 ............ and the G1 'cantala' over 1600m has two starters under 10/1 ...........gods give me strength!

RVL continues to make a mockery of a once wonderful reputation.

At Bendigo today, the quadrella paid $9k and three of the related F4's 'paid' 13k 13k and 25 k ............ few betting on Bendigo races would be happy-clapping tonight ........... in Sydney the Kensington (not Randwick) track confirmed its status as a no-go, wealth-hazard for most punters.

..... bring on a royal commission ........... what is happening is not right.

[PS ... the gods may be merciful ....racing at a too-heavy Randwick may be abandoned]




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« 2020-Oct-30, 10:03 PM Reply #1030 »
Thank god we are racing at Rosehill
you're just taking the piss now

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« 2020-Oct-31, 05:51 PM Reply #1031 »


Reflect on today -- inflated fields are spoiling the business of racing gambling


                                 Victoria Derby-day ........... once wonderful .......... now not so

It could have been worse of course but the quadrellas paying $9&8 and 3 of the f4s averaging $20K+ does not reflect well on RVL  ............ nor does it leave most punters thinking they got a fair go.

The racing in Sydney was spoiled by a heavy track and associated scratchings ............. inflated fields in the main quadrella races reflected in the quadrella paying $35k ............along with F4s in the 6th and 8th races paying $100k+ and $60k.

..... and today was the opening day of a 'rortival' that only gets worse  .... cresting on Cup-day.


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« 2020-Oct-31, 08:17 PM Reply #1032 »
Sydney now , good call
when you get to your age it's best to talk in mind numbing sentences

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« 2020-Oct-31, 08:31 PM Reply #1033 »

Reflect on today -- inflated fields are spoiling the business of racing gambling


                                 Victoria Derby-day ........... once wonderful .......... now not so



Peter! You may be in to something here.
Can you tell me the field sizes for past Derbies? Say for arguments sake 1942 or 1951?

I seem to recall the great Skipton beat 18 other rivals🤔
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« 2020-Nov-04, 06:36 PM Reply #1034 »

The 2020 Flemington 'carnival'  -- so far so not so good

Derby Day ... once reliable ... had quadrella payouts of 10k and 8k ......along with F4's of 8k, 18k, 30k and 15k.

Cup Day .. now notorious .. had F4's 'paying' 36k, 34k, 40k and 11k ....and the main quadrella 'paid' 17k.

................neither 'Day' is a 'happy punters' story .............  NOaks Day looms tomorrow ...... 

............. and, just get your peepers around the 16 contesting Race 9 on Saturday ...........a BM 80 down the 1100 straight ............ may the racing gods be merciful.


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« 2020-Nov-04, 07:09 PM Reply #1035 »
Peter Mair wanted Twilight Payment scratched at the barries.

Can he be any more moronic   :lol:

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« 2020-Nov-04, 07:11 PM Reply #1036 »
wiley,

Didn't you see it get in all of the other horses way?

Peter did.

Fours
ps mabye thats why none got past it...

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« 2020-Nov-04, 07:24 PM Reply #1037 »
Yes. I saw that. It was a no hoper leader due to the massive price and caused chaos as it folded  :lol:

Thank good the idiot didn’t get his way, I got the cups double for a nice price.

Is Mair still employed in the industry  :chin:

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« 2020-Nov-04, 08:35 PM Reply #1038 »


The Twilight win was unexpectedly good



..................in a race that stops us all thinking what will surprise us all last year, this year and next.

So  ............... ante up again tomorrow, and on Saturday ....... keep getting skinned and saying how wonderful it feels.

I just love hearing nonsense.


 

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« 2020-Nov-04, 09:14 PM Reply #1039 »
Your problem is you don't hear anything except your own bleats


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« 2020-Nov-04, 09:20 PM Reply #1040 »

The Twilight win was unexpectedly good [/



Yes it was good but not unexpected
, how’d you go  :lol:



Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Nov-05, 06:19 AM Reply #1041 »


Drawn wide in an inflated field? ----- just cop it!

 ........... jockey Kerrin McEvoy was fined an unprecedented $50,000 on Tuesday by stewards after he breached the whip rule on Melbourne Cup runner-up Tiger Moth, striking the horse 13 times before the 100-metre mark – eight times more than permitted – and 21 times in total.

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« 2020-Nov-05, 06:48 AM Reply #1042 »
  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Nov-05, 06:50 AM Reply #1043 »


Yes it was good but not unexpected
, how’d you go  :lol:



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« 2020-Nov-07, 05:48 PM Reply #1044 »


Another predictable 'barry crocker' to predictably finish another rotten RVL Flemington carnival

............. and, just get your peepers around the 16 contesting Race 9 on Saturday ...........a BM 80 down the 1100 straight ............ may the racing gods be merciful.

The gods were not merciful ............... except to punters who could not get on ........... RVL was shamed again.

Alas it will be sacrificed next Saturday ........... unless they learned a wonderful free lesson today.

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« 2020-Nov-08, 08:40 PM Reply #1045 »



Most punters sporting wry smiles, and money still in the kick, on Sunday

"It's incredibly disappointing and frustrating for this TAB outage to occur on a major group 1 raceday, in particular for the punters who were looking forward to a great Stakes day program at Flemington," Racing Victoria said in a statement.

................. it was not 'a great Stakes day program' ............ the last race was a predictably inflated-field disgrace that wrecked the quadrella ............ and the early quadrella was similarly compromised.

More generally a once-was-great Cup carnival was not again this year as it has not been for some years now.

 

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« 2020-Nov-11, 06:54 PM Reply #1046 »


Saturday racing -- no chalk ........ just cheese (at Sandown) and rancid-cheese (at Newcastle)

Not even RVL respects the Sandown meeting it is promoting on Saturday -- apart from the headline 'Zipping Classic' there is nothing of substance.

Worse,  low-grade racing of such no consequence is likely to take punters for a ride they will not enjoy.

One inflated-field is a typical display of  RVL's disrespect for its punting customer base ... as usual, it is the last .

Race 10, a SWP for 4yro+ mares  over 1500 m, has 16 starters ............ promoted as a G3 ...... one can only wonder why any classification committee would agree to this.

.............at best it is a BM 80 .......... only three of the 17 accepting offer a pre-post dividend of more than $10 ...... and the rump of this race is a disgrace ........... 4 are 10 to 20,   3 are 20 to 30,  2 are 30-40   and 5 are 40+.

This race should not be run at all ... to 'list' it as a G3 is a deception .......... any idea that money contributed, by modest punters, to the racing industry would be wasted on paying any of these runners to run10th is an insult.

.........and that is the cheese for the day ............... the cheese goes rancid, up north, at Newcastle.



 

 



Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Nov-11, 07:12 PM Reply #1047 »
Ignorant nonsense 

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« 2020-Nov-14, 05:53 PM Reply #1048 »


'SO GOOD' SORT OF AND NOT SO GOOD, REALLY ?

..............  the MN meeting ran well but few punters would agree the outcome in the 9th was 'oh so good' .............. as for Monty in MN, his top selections in 3&4 won and his top two in 5&6 ran the quinella ....... giving him the $900 early quadrella in a canter.

The race outcomes at Newcastle were another reminder to stay clear of regional stand-alones .......... the administrators cannot help themselves inflating the fields at the expense of most punters.

...... two F4's paid $20k and $35k ...... another 4 averaged $4k .............  Monty was on the money early but the main quadrella races eluded him ...........bar the last, something slipped through the cracks to win.

The worst result was in the feature race ...the Hunter F4 paid some $35k .............. who wants to risk being 'gonged' at Kembla next week?





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« 2020-Nov-14, 06:22 PM Reply #1049 »
A RESOUNDING YES, MAIR WAS WRONG AGAIN

  :lol:


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