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Offline HarmersHaven

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« 2020-May-22, 10:22 PM Reply #650 »

Red pill: You're are an imbecile that cannot (after all this time and self-proclaimed expertise) fathom the maths; or
Blue pill: You're a disingenuous cretin that deliberately distorts facts to sell the story in your head.


Which pill/s did you end up taking or are you sticking by your imaginary $25k F4?

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-May-23, 07:49 AM Reply #651 »
He won’t answer as you caught him lying again

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-May-24, 09:57 AM Reply #652 »


A coincidence of 'rough results' and 'cheating allegations' extends beyond Queensland.

Integrity issues appear to have reached flashpoint in Queensland racing with a cross-section of trainers up in arms - complaining they are not competing on a level playing field and insisting the Queensland Racing Integrity Commission isn't doing enough to stop doping and cheating.

There is similar innuendo around 'unexpected' race outcomes in NSW and Victoria and trainers varying the use of pre-race treatments and other ruses to get runners up or down.

One likely  contributor to this speculation is the policy of running fields inflated with 'hopers-for-10th' that disrupt the fair running of races and provide cover for those 'smoking one in' undercover.


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« 2020-May-24, 11:04 AM Reply #653 »

Provocatively ill-informed questions answered as predicted

............ answers to MN-racing questions will be provided by MN-racing results tomorrow.............. your understanding of WA racing will be evident in the WA race results.

                 ....................you couldn’t provide any analysis of Melbourne so you go to Perth

Gentle readers now know the disturbingly rough outcomes of races run in Melbourne and Perth yesterday.

Gentle readers might be forgiven for thinking that I rig the 'rough results' -- no so, the ever so predictably rough results are engineered by administrators running inflated fields, chasing the buck at the cost of a fair go for all. No wonder there are conspiracies suggesting 'go fasts' and 'go slows' -- that's what it looks like.

           ................ if you understand racing, you can tell on Wednesday what will happen on Saturday.

 The racing media that should be hammering this administrative nobbling are unable to say a word.

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« 2020-May-24, 02:48 PM Reply #654 »
A link below to Racenet interviews with Trainers and the authorities. I wonder if any of the trainers will face bringing racing into disrepute charges which seems a common occurrence amongst racing bodies across Australia for having a critical opinion or joke at times.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/an-epic-fail--it-s-not-a-level-playing-field---frustrated-qld-trainers-speak-out-over-integrity-conc-20200524

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/qric-commissioner-ross-barnett-responds-to-integrity-concerns-from-qld-trainers-20200524


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« 2020-May-24, 05:21 PM Reply #655 »
There was nothing”rough” about Perth on Saturday. Every winner was easily found and validated by form study.
Track played fair and field sizes had zero bearing on results

Mair failed to address any concerns his lack of knowledge may have raised, before or after the races.

All he had to do was enter a discussion rather than his ignorant brain farts 💩

Total failure once again from the self promoting fool  :lol:

The question on everybody’s lips is, “has there ever been a more morally or intellectually bankrupt administrator that Peter Mair?”
« Last Edit: 2020-May-24, 05:27 PM by wily ole dog »

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-May-24, 09:14 PM Reply #656 »


................ Proverbs 26:11

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« 2020-May-24, 09:47 PM Reply #657 »
Mair wrong again.
 It’s painful to watch

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-May-25, 07:25 PM Reply #658 »




Rampant rorting by connections-- possibly true but most unlikely

Heathcote told Racenet he was certain racing "is not clean here, and it is possibly the worst it has been since I came into racing in 1997". He also said "current working stewards" and other trainers are frustrated at the lack of pre-race testing, which has opened the door for cheats to ramp up their offending.

Those on the ground must be respected when it comes to knowing 'what is going on'.

Conversely, the plain stupidity of taking the risk, that a horse will not be swabbed, pre or post, says that rampant rorting by 'connections' is most unlikely.

Along with many others -- punters, tipsters, owners, trainers and jockeys -- are correct to smell a rat.

................more likely, the explanation of 'inexplicable' outcomes is reflecting the role played by administrators inflating race fields irresponsibly.

Long gone are the days when 'connections' paid to get a run ...........or paying to run in a trial ........these days, those just giving a horse a run can be well rewarded if a 'no hoper' just runs 10th.

The inflated-field policy is so clearly wrong  -- punters, owners, trainers, jockeys and so many 'Mister Ed' talking horses should be calling-out his nonsense.

..... neither they, nor the racing media, can ......all bound to omerta .......... if he could talk, what would Mr Ed say?


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« 2020-May-25, 07:29 PM Reply #659 »
Mr Ed would say you are an idiot.

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« 2020-May-25, 07:41 PM Reply #660 »
Mr Ed would say you are an idiot.

Fours

One of your best.  :clap2:

PM, you walked into that by giving an opening.

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« 2020-May-26, 11:53 AM Reply #661 »
One of our resident forumite gets a mention in today’s column by Stephen Brassel.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/robert-heathcote-speaking-out-can-only-be-good-for-racing-in-queensland-20200525

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« 2020-May-26, 12:50 PM Reply #662 »
Peter's mention on Shatin,

The claim is that Purton and Moriera were grossly over bet as evidenced by the large number of horses at big prices.

Purton had 10 rides for 4 wins but returned a very very profitable $16.40  - fail on the over bet claim overall accordingly.

Moreiera had 11 rides for 4 wins also returning $16.35 so yet another fail on the claim here as well.

If only racing was this easy week to week - even Peter would have a chance to profit.

Both jockeys had winners over 6/1.

The extremely good win strike rate on the day makes a lie of the claim that the rough prices horses get in the way stopping the favoured ones from winning.

Honk Kong punters make 100/1 mistakes just like aussie punters - and for very similar reasons.

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« 2020-May-26, 03:41 PM Reply #663 »
The hilarious thing is that Mair claims these blokes win too often but strangely enough Mair still can’t win i :lol:

Ditto on his attempt to drag Perth into his brain farts. Pike has a strike rate of 30% on Bob Peters horse but senile Pete  thinks that’s no good   :lol:

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« 2020-May-26, 03:59 PM Reply #664 »


Went the day well -- on Sunday

......... it is probably not correct to think that level stakes bets on the mounts of HK's magic-duo, or Willie Pike, would be profitable over a season.

........... the kennel kids may like to keep the tallies up to date  .....and perhaps report on a little history.

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« 2020-May-26, 04:46 PM Reply #665 »
Peter, Ive completed my video review of HK from Sunday.


Do you mind telling us which of the 11 races you feel were impacted and how they were impacted by size or quality ?

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« 2020-May-26, 05:45 PM Reply #666 »
idiot,

You made comments specific to the day.

I addressed those comments for the day.

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« 2020-May-27, 05:45 PM Reply #667 »
Peter, Ive completed my video review of HK from Sunday.


Do you mind telling us which of the 11 races you feel were impacted and how they were impacted by size or quality ?



It’s noted that Mair can’t backup his claims re Sha Tin.

Cat got your tongue or the dog got ya tail  :lol:

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« 2020-May-27, 07:22 PM Reply #668 »


Sadly punters at Sale today were sold-out – Saturday looms sadly for punters who bet.

.................. by now, you know crystal-ball visions after acceptances ..... do not bet.

.................. read the acceptances and see the implications  ....  do not bet.

Fields, mainly low grade, are ‘inflated’ across the board – a basic warning.

Tracks are ‘affected’ across the nation.

Pike has good book at Belmont (but that is not Ascot).

The jury is out, Doomben is still not Eagle Farm.

                ........you know about Caulfield + RVL.............. Rosehill is best of a bad lot.

C U Sunday ..... for confirmation.

https://racingaustralia.horse/FreeFields/Acceptances.aspx?Key=2020May30,WA,Belmont&BodyClass=PrintFriendly



https://racingaustralia.horse/FreeFields/Acceptances.aspx?Key=2020May30%2CVIC%2CCaulfield

https://racingaustralia.horse/FreeFields/Form.aspx?Key=2020May30%2CQLD%2CDoomben

https://racingaustralia.horse/FreeFields/Acceptances.aspx?Key=2020May30%2CNSW%2CRosehill%20Gardens

As Dr Turf once famously wrote ...... if you do not care about losing ..... take notes from your wallet and flush them ...... see how much fun that is ....and then reconsider .......if punters did not open their wallets so readily the administrators would eventually get the message ............... do not bet until they do.





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« 2020-May-27, 07:53 PM Reply #669 »
Idiot,

Pikes win % and ROI are superior at Belmont - not Ascot.

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« 2020-May-27, 09:31 PM Reply #670 »


Thanks

A level-stakes bet on Zac's mounts at Shatin tonight...... and will do the same with Pike's at Belmont.

.... .............. can never leave them out.

............ what they do is astonishing ......... but expecting it shortens the odds ..... spoils the game.

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« 2020-May-28, 10:08 AM Reply #671 »

5 in 6 out last night -- so far so good

                                      .............past 12 Months w/p&ROI Stats suggest caution
Joao Moreira
        743:148-116-89   19.9%   47.5%   -12.8%
         
Zac Purton
   771   186   113   107   25%   53%   $4.11   -1%

William Pike
        866    238    27%    485    56%    -13.6%


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« 2020-May-28, 12:19 PM Reply #672 »

Integrity of Queensland racing: motes and beams in beholding eyes

Queensland trainers who spoke out to Racenet about integrity issues are expected to have a high-powered meeting with Racing Queensland ...organised by the Queensland branch of the Australian Trainers Association.

 .............prominent trainers ........... who expressed serious integrity concerns around doping and cheating and also the Queensland integrity framework will attend.

The purpose of the meeting................ a discussion around current and future integrity plans and provide an opportunity to air issues with key stakeholders.


Will anyone have the temerity to ask if the rough results could be a consequence of RQ inflating  fields with no-hopers wanting to run 10th  -- implicitly, are inflated fields compromising fairness and integrity?


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« 2020-May-28, 01:13 PM Reply #673 »
Many of the regular (and formerly regular) contributing readers have had the temerity to ask you to stop repeating this drivel ad nauseam for nearly 2 years, and it doesn't stop you.

You made your point, no one else cares - move on gramps.

You infect many threads with your baseless claims, and this forum is now a wasteland with your incessant ranting being the only constant tumbleweed.

I'll check back again in a few more weeks.

bascoe

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« 2020-May-28, 03:08 PM Reply #674 »

you are on hiding to nothing .......come-out into the open

Who are you? ...............your posts suggest a vested interest ........one not about protecting most punters.

The issue is a very real one .... punters are smashed routinely -- someone else is getting their money.



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