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Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Jul-15, 07:45 PM Reply #825 »


Race 9 at Flemington on Saturday should not be run

Not sure if 'Variance' is a contributor but would be interested in his views.

https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/flemington-20200718/celebrating-flemington-trainers-and-stab-race-9

Considering the 21 incredibly 'accepted' to run -- 12 are at pre-post odds over 20/1 -- including runners at 200/1, 150/1 , 80/1 and 60/1 that are not even 'emergencies'.

........ in Melbourne ..... on a Saturday....  as the final leg of the Quadrella ......this is not sane


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« 2020-Jul-15, 08:20 PM Reply #826 »
."....... in Melbourne ..... on a Saturday....  as the final leg of the Quadrella ......this is not sane "

That is a quote from Mair . I cant believe he said that he thought something was not sane. The guy mustn't have a mirror in his house.

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« 2020-Jul-15, 09:24 PM Reply #827 »

Thank you for confirming my discretion to let some questions hang in the air until they answer themselves.

....... will R9 on Saturday be fairly run? ............ the result will be the answer..... it could be but not likely.

Truth of the matter is you donít have the intellect or decency to actually discuss it before the race.
You sit and pray something falls into place to pump your tyres

It hasnít happen yet, Mair and no Sunday review from you will have a leg to stand on  :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-15, 10:44 PM Reply #828 »


There is nothing to discuss

........... what has not happened ......will happen....  sitting and praying will not be me ......maybe you.

I have called it on Wednesday ..... you want to wait til Sunday ............ get a crystal ball.

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« 2020-Jul-16, 08:17 AM Reply #829 »

There is nothing to discuss

........... what has not happened ......will happen....  sitting and praying will not be me ......maybe you.

I have called it on Wednesday ..... you want to wait til Sunday ............ get a crystal ball.

Donít need a crystal ball you dumb flog, just something called a form guide that you clearly donít have or donít know how to use

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« 2020-Jul-16, 11:13 AM Reply #830 »

Race 9 at Flemington on Saturday should not be run

Not sure if 'Variance' is a contributor but would be interested in his views.

https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/flemington-20200718/celebrating-flemington-trainers-and-stab-race-9

Considering the 21 incredibly 'accepted' to run -- 12 are at pre-post odds over 20/1 -- including runners at 200/1, 150/1 , 80/1 and 60/1 that are not even 'emergencies'.

........ in Melbourne ..... on a Saturday....  as the final leg of the Quadrella ......this is not sane

Cracking good race Mair. For a start, there will be 18 runners not 21 so stop lying again  :tin:


Iíve got a black booked horse going in it at a nice price 👍

Of those that you listed above at big prices, tell us which ones should not be in the race.

Do the form and tell us in advance for once :bulb:

 MOST of them are way over the odds. You may find a Perfect Jewel :clap2:


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« 2020-Jul-16, 04:10 PM Reply #831 »
Well Mairs brain fart about scratching horses $20 or over at the barrier has been exposed as moronic, yet again

Go Rahni Factor $26 :clap2: :bop: :bop:

Keep punting Pete, idiots like you create value🥳🥳🥳🥳

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« 2020-Jul-16, 04:48 PM Reply #832 »
Dearest Pete,

Imagine a world where there was but one race per day, or seven races per week. If that doesn't work, simply imagine one seven-race card.

Now imagine, in this world, a perfect field size - let's imagine that number to be ten. Not too big. Not too small. Not too fair. Not too unfair. Ten. Just right.

Now imagine the call for the runners reads: 2.50, 6.00, 8.00, 10.00, 16.00, 20.00, 25.00, 33.00, 50.00, 100.00.

Because I know how very clever and forward-thinking you are, I know you will have already worked out that there is no juice/tax/comm in this perfect world, the market is at 100%.

Your 20/1+ donkeys in this field must win one race on each seven race card, or one race each week if you went with the 'one race per day' option. They must. Over a decent enough period of time, they simply must. It's how numbers work. It's mathematics, it's Mabo, it's the vibe.

If you really had any conviction in what you spout, or actually believed what you peddle to be a truth, you are suggesting that these longer priced runners are occurring more often than they should statistically should. A kind-hearted soul on this very forum suggested to you, many years ago from memory, that if you actually believed what you spout to be true, you would back this subset of runners and untold riches would flow your way. They'd have to, because the numbers, statistics and probabilities don't lie - people do.

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« 2020-Jul-16, 07:09 PM Reply #833 »


When the declared dividend says 'everyone' got it wrong .......something is not right.

I am confident that the racing media 'tipsters' are competent and do their best  --- some are more competent than others ........... for Sydney racing on Saturdays, I would nominate Monty as the best and his stablemate Chris Roots as not-to-be-ignored, given his likely access to table secrets.

..........others will have their own preferences ......... there is no published accountability for any ....there should be.

Regular punters are not silly either ....they do the form ......they are being taken for a ride with $5,000-for-10th pretenders impeding a fair race between those their to win.

Anecdotally, favorites are under-bet and, usually, 10/1 would embrace most winners -- long-shots do win, rarely, and the stewards do not run rorts to ground.

[........as regards the role being played by wily to promote my views and interest in the forum.... his recent responses to my postings confirm the impression that he is a pit-bull baying for blood and applause in the kennel .......biting hard and nasty on anything said.......a plant not worth watering.]

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« 2020-Jul-16, 07:48 PM Reply #834 »



[........as regards the role being played by wily to promote my views and interest in the forum.... his recent responses to my postings confirm the impression that he is a pit-bull baying for blood and applause in the kennel .......biting hard and nasty on anything said.......a plant not worth watering.]

Avoid the facts again Mair   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-16, 07:56 PM Reply #835 »


Manuel,

                                    FO.....GABYA

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« 2020-Jul-16, 08:19 PM Reply #836 »
See, you have nothing to contribute   :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-16, 08:29 PM Reply #837 »


Check out R6 at 'once-was-headquarters'

https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/flemington-20200718/tab-ata-trainers-trust-handicap-race-6/field

............17 accepted ..........16 to run............... more than half the field are 20/1 or worse....including 250/1,150/1,
125/1,100/1,66/1, 2X33/1, 25/1 and 20/1

This race should not be run either -- it is a waste of money put in by punters.


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« 2020-Jul-16, 08:40 PM Reply #838 »
The price doesnít matter you fool, itís the form that matters :tin:

Tell us who you would put the line through

Grow a set and discuss it Peter, hereís your chance

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« 2020-Jul-16, 09:01 PM Reply #839 »


Once-was-headquarters -- the races scheduled for Saturday should not be run

.......................it is not just race 9 or race 6 ....this whole program has disaster for punters written all over it.


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« 2020-Jul-16, 09:13 PM Reply #840 »
So once again you canít contribute   :lol:
 :censored:  man, you tie yourself in knots trying to invent something

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« 2020-Jul-16, 09:40 PM Reply #841 »
All

Moree R6 first four paid a very nice 34 grand but all horses in the result had excellent form for the days race.

The winner did firm late in proceedings but not much in % terms Free Billy firmed into 25/1 from 30/1 and was ridden from near the tail to first so got in absolutely no horses way as Peter Mair would claim. Peter Mair of course would not let the horse run - despite it running past the entire field to win...... His argument that it would get in the way totally refuted once again.

We had 2 of the three favourites in the first four result so I wont insult people ( apart from Peter ) as to why they were that price.

Mysticism's price at 33/1 would also see it banned by Peter from running but it's form at the track and distance was 4 starts for 2 wins and a further placing. Despite this excellent form Peter would not let it start.....

There is a reason I refer to Peter as IDIOT!

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« 2020-Jul-16, 09:42 PM Reply #842 »










Peter Mair of course would not let the horse run - despite it running past the entire field to win...... His argument that it would get in the way totally refuted once again.

There is a reason I refer to Peter as IDIOT!

Fours



Fours, itís laughable isnít it



I got the F4 on the 7th race as well :clap2: paid very well
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« 2020-Jul-16, 09:46 PM Reply #843 »
  :lol:   :lol:

Had to laugh and yes it paid okay on those combos...... but not enough for me to get out of bed so cost me a little of my profits from R6.

Can't win them all and I don't try to; glad you had a win.

I wonder if the jockey on Free Billy is related to the notorious book maker Gallagher...

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« 2020-Jul-16, 09:58 PM Reply #844 »
The price doesnít matter you fool, itís the form that matters :tin:

Tell us who you would put the line through

Grow a set and discuss it Peter, hereís your chance


Come on a Pete, we see youíre  still on line, have  a go old flog  :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-16, 10:09 PM Reply #845 »
Oops, Peteís now logged out. Done the bolt  :lol:   :lol:
What a gutless flog    :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-18, 07:30 PM Reply #846 »


KO'd  -- never again

                                'K' is for Kensington -------- and 'keep out', 'keep away' et al

 As for Sydney, the 'Kenso' is not Randwick and a heavy track will not help
.............. after scratchings ......the fields were not even inflated ......

[Even so Monty included 7 of the 9 winners in Sydney .......including, for the $2.2k quadrella,  the four winners.]


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« 2020-Jul-18, 07:42 PM Reply #847 »


A deception of punters .........plain and simple -- -- an RVL product with no integrity



Race 9 at Flemington on Saturday should not be run


........ in Melbourne ..... on a Saturday....  as the final leg of the Quadrella ......this is not sane

......... the F4 paid some $30,000..............

With a national F4 pool on the race of some $300k ............a one in ten outcome is a disgrace ....... a predictable and predicted disgrace.

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« 2020-Jul-19, 08:30 PM Reply #848 »

................kennel kids apparently speechless


......unable to believe my predictive insights on Wednesdays.....they are ensconced in the kennel licking their wounds, among other things.

.........probably taking time to prepare a response to my insights .......one can only hope they had R9 covered and took a motza from the pool. .......... as usual.

The kennel-kids are unbeatable.

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« 2020-Jul-19, 10:11 PM Reply #849 »
Sorry Peter,

Have not finished counting the money yet....

Fours


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