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Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Jul-19, 10:51 PM Reply #850 »

A KK Kid flushed out

..... a  flash of false bravado ...... before the chain is pulled  again ... take it away boys!

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Jul-20, 08:49 AM Reply #851 »
Creedence salutes for the astute whilst Mair lacks any  :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-20, 10:05 AM Reply #852 »
Peter, forget R9 at Flemington.
It was nothing more than the best straight six horse beating the 2nd best straight six horse.

R5 is a better race to draw attention to.
Exemplar in the different colours looked a vastly improved version to the one I was backing in the navy blue.
Once again a leading Victorian trainer makes Lloyd Williams look he didn't quite know what he was doing.
The grey son of Galileo punched well above his handicap rating....didn't he?
Was it unexpected? ......only by the 'form experts' I'd say........not by the stable.

Points to you for your enthusiasm, but your inflated field cause is a lost cause.
Try fighting for a level playing field and you will get some support.

Can we get a Melbourne version of Archie please?   :lol:  

I need to add I was only watching on Saturday.
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Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Jul-20, 12:22 PM Reply #853 »
I was so close to getting mairs lotto F4 divvy.
That's why we take them dumbarse😃

Had 3 of the 4 in by ticket😢

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« 2020-Jul-20, 10:26 PM Reply #854 »


It is not just Saturdays

.............today at Smellerat............. the Q paid $20 k .............. unacceptable!

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« 2020-Jul-21, 11:36 AM Reply #855 »
Glad it did I got a share of it  :biggrin:

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« 2020-Jul-21, 04:17 PM Reply #856 »



Archie's insights -- Is this why long-shots go to the lead?

Archie Butterfly has been doing more stinging than floating in recent posts  -- some hallmarks of a 'disrepute' offence.

He  has a sharper eye and mind than most in reading how a race unfolded and, possibly, why.

His race reviews are different to the usual insider's.

.............could be a useful addition to a stewards panel.

Whatever, it seems that no-hoper leaders are sometimes playing a role different to 'just trying for 10th'.

.........may be all bluff and bluster.......... I would like to see the police taking an interest in the scrutiny of phones.


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« 2020-Jul-21, 05:47 PM Reply #857 »
Hey Peter, did you take advantage of the gift that the forumites left you. We were feeling rather SENTIMENTAL   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-22, 07:45 AM Reply #858 »


Today is 'wondering Wednesday'

                        .......... the portents from the Caulfield  nominations are not good

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« 2020-Jul-22, 05:34 PM Reply #859 »

'God knows' ------ not about Saturday


At Caulfield, fields are not generally inflated but, with a 56kg minimum weight, most runners do not have the relative benchmark rating to carry this minimum weight -- based on pre-post markets, many scheduled to run have no hope of winning but they will get $2,000 for completing the course.

In Sydney, the fields are inflated and the spread of pre-post prices suggest most are there to pick up the $3,500 for running 10th.

........it is winter......... worn wet tracks..........et al.......... but wasting prize-money money like this is not a sensible use of money taken from punters.

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« 2020-Jul-22, 06:46 PM Reply #860 »

RVL warmed up today with inflated fields -- the 'worst' 5 F4s averaged $12,000 ... this has to stop.

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« 2020-Jul-22, 09:47 PM Reply #861 »
Are you ever going to talk about pokies ?

set at 87% regardless of the field size or interference

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Jul-22, 09:48 PM Reply #862 »
Only you can stop yourself peter....oh and a shrink.

You clearly are unbalanced 💖

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« 2020-Jul-22, 09:56 PM Reply #863 »
Hey Peter, did you take the gift that I gave you today, my Sentimental Friend.🤗

$6 the place and a 12k F4. Hope you listened old mate but I suspect, seeing as you would have demanded it scratched, that you missed the opportunity  :yes:


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« 2020-Jul-22, 09:58 PM Reply #864 »
.....remember when 16% would be the maximum takeout

That was the promise ... the pokies 13% takeout  was better .. no need to read a form guide ...just play.

The new reality is that, with 'rough' inflated field racing, the takeout for most punters is 100% ... corporates and syndicates 'cop the lot'.

...... the day of reckoning is coming ....... that Archie boy is bringing the reality of racing into disrepute.... and once the penny drops .......... most punters will be demanding reforms.

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« 2020-Jul-22, 10:05 PM Reply #865 »
So did you?🤗

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Jul-23, 06:58 PM Reply #866 »


...... I did.......... demand reforms ............25 years ago .......... and daily since

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« 2020-Jul-23, 07:21 PM Reply #867 »
😆😆😆😆😆

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« 2020-Jul-23, 09:26 PM Reply #868 »

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« 2020-Jul-24, 06:41 AM Reply #869 »
Hmmmm,

Possibly  a horse race......

Fours

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« 2020-Jul-24, 07:25 AM Reply #870 »
Are we surprised that Mair doesn’t know that   :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-25, 08:02 PM Reply #871 »

RVL can schedule quality racing


Do not tell me that inflated-field racing is not destructive.

What a difference proper fields make --- Monty who is usually caught out by RVL's inflated fields included every winner in his Top5 for Caulfield ............ not least the quadrella ..............but also the early Q .... in all the 8 quadrella races his Top5 included 3 of the first-four finishers.

In Sydney, Monty missed only the 'blowout' race 2 --------- he included the winner of the other 8 races within his top 3 selections  ......... a magnificent performance given the low-grade big-fields.

 ............ if the kennel kids went looking for Lassiter's reef as the usually do they would have come unstuck ....... needless to say......come Sunday.....they will have creamed the program as usual.



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« 2020-Jul-26, 10:06 AM Reply #872 »
Yes Pete. Well done monty. 5 picks in every races. With fields of 8. What a great effort👏👏👏👏👏

Pure genius taking 625 quaddy combinations to collect $61🥴

No wonder you were driven out of the industry 😆😆

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« 2020-Jul-26, 10:13 AM Reply #873 »

Money for jam and old rope -- 100/1-shots get paid for completing course.

Much appreciated, as were the not-inflated fields at Caulfield yesterday, it exposed another problem of paying 'prize-money' down to 10th.

The 'prize-money' becomes 'appearance money' when there are 10 or less horses in the race -- connections sensibly left some 20 'no-hopers' in the races at SPs averaging 100/1 or more and duly finishing well down the track.

....what was sensible for these 'connections' was surely not for an industry too readily inclined to waste funds contributed by punters.

Paying prize-money down to 10th for other than the few best races nationally ..is dumb policy and usually destructive of fair racing.

.......if RVL comprehends 'integrity' ......it would not do this.


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« 2020-Jul-26, 10:26 AM Reply #874 »
The only people happy with yesterday’s farce were the computer room professionals who worked the %s and got the paltry quaddy.

Rank and file punters were filthy with it and will leave in droves if the poor dividends continue. They voted with their wallets yesterday as the quaddy pool was stripped by about 25% due to lack of interest with the small fields and predictably pathetic dividend :bulb:


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