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Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Aug-10, 08:20 AM Reply #900 »

Would you believe it ....... the favourite never got a clear run?

Savvy Lad ($4.20F) - Flemington R9................... it was a bit of a horror show and it might pay to put a line through the run. Michael Walker settled the 4YO gelding back in the field from barrier three and he remained in traffic for much of the 1410m event. He got into a bumping duel at the top of the straight, had to change course a couple of times and, after ducking back to the inside, picked up again to finish strongly


[........ and here was I thinking the cat had got the puppy's tongue ........ but, no, just a silly, not wily, comment]



  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:  Who wrote that rubbish  :lol:   :lol:

Itís exactly why I watch replays and dunces like you donít. I suggest you go back and open your eyes

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Aug-10, 09:37 AM Reply #901 »


Gambling giant Tabcorp -- bludging off inflated field racing.


Gambling giant Tabcorp is shaking up the management of its under-pressure wagering business, after writing down the division by $1 billion and announcing the departure of the company's chief executive and chairman.


Imagine what would happen if racing administrators were required to run racing fairly.

One would be astounded if Tabcorp is not making 'heaps' now on its fixed-odds betting business.

Inflated fields have made a mockery of form guides, especially in Melbourne.  On many races Tabcorp would have a skinner, copping the lot of punters bets after not paying out any 'wins' of substance on rough results.

The other corporates can hardly believe their luck with the coming of  inflated-field racing coupled with 'loser-only' customer filters to exclude those in the know.

If Tabcorp cannot make a quid now the prospects are bleak -- unless they are planning 'initiatives' even more detrimental to most of their customers.

..................... I have a dream........... Tabcorp becomes the punters' hero .............. tells punter-milking administrators 'all bets are off' ....... demands that administrators offer a 'fair-racing' product ...... no inflated fields......no reward for running 10th...........

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« 2020-Aug-10, 02:13 PM Reply #902 »
Drop off Pete.

Flemington was a punters delight on Saturday

Races 4,5,7,8 were won by favourites

Races 2,3 and 6 were all won by Oliver on second favourites at 3/1, 4/1and 4/1.

Race 1 was 6/1.

Last winner was 16/1, hardly unfindable.


Thanks for pointing that out anti. Pete doesnít like facts, he was wrong again.

Heís qualified to label administrators inept because he knows full well what it takes  as he specialised in ďineptnessĒ

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« 2020-Aug-10, 02:19 PM Reply #903 »
We need a new category of thread - "Boring" threads.


Offline Peter Mair

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« 2020-Aug-10, 07:01 PM Reply #904 »


............everyone ...............not only antitab

[....... antitab should not take any riding instructions from a proven dog....... someone that only ever robotically contradicts anything I say without any rational thought or consideration]


...........what may be boring to some may be of interest to others ......including students of public personal behaviour albeit with their identity disguised ....... when I post a comment ...............just wait for a nominal-dog to contradict it ........ whatever I say is contradicted ....... sometime with a short delay after he knows what I said was so clearly correct ....... as MN Race9 was a rort identified on Wednesday.

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« 2020-Aug-10, 10:15 PM Reply #905 »


Australian media 'tongue tied' with no semblance of independence

 ....................... while the charge is usually about newscorpse media .... it is also a more general offense.

The 'media watch' program tonight on ABC TV gave two damning illustrations of deliberately self-serving biased reporting.

These are the IVIEW links:

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/afl/12542902

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/devine/12542904

The prevalence of the truth being compromised by bullying deals with media organizations makes us all sensibly distrustful of all 'only good news' media ..... especially from the newscorpse press and internet feeds.

........... there is no sensible excuse to buy newscorpse tabloids to know what is going on ..... on the contrary the apparent newscorpse dedication is to delivering compromised and biased 'news' ... not least in the 'profession' of racing media 'journalism' by people with by-lines properly described as, de-facto, dictation-taking writers.


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« 2020-Aug-13, 08:00 AM Reply #906 »

Caulfield Saturday -- go hard and go early

---- -- the worst is saved for last and the main quadrella a no-go.

Race 9 at Caulfield on Saturday is a shocker, over the notorious 1400, it is another likely rort -- 15 +2e accepted and half are at pre-post odds averaging 50/1.......... and the track is likely to be heavy.

Race 6 is also suspect with 9 of the 14 accepted at pre-posts of 10/1or worse.

..........as both races are 'should not be runs' ...the focus is on the first five races with fields of 10  or less.



Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Aug-13, 05:09 PM Reply #907 »
So the latest brain fart is you canít have horses over $10.....you idiot  :lol:

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« 2020-Aug-13, 08:48 PM Reply #908 »


Thanks wily, insightful as usual?

.................. or just a routine, knee-jerk, barking dismissal of anything I say ........

..........one perhaps best described in one-word  b............t.......... ...with 8 or 9 letters....we will see on Saturday.

................all we know now is that, come Sunday, you will have nailed the quadrella ...not least the 6th and 9th.

What does wily think of the 9th?

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Aug-14, 07:37 AM Reply #909 »

Thanks wily, insightful as usual?

.................. or just a routine, knee-jerk, barking dismissal of anything I say ........

..........

Well, stop sprouting 💩 and you wonít get that reaction.

Self evaluation is required from you Peter

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« 2020-Aug-14, 07:42 AM Reply #910 »

Thanks wily, insightful as usual?

.................. or just a routine, knee-jerk, barking dismissal of anything I say ........

..........one perhaps best described in one-word  b............t.......... ...with 8 or 9 letters....we will see on Saturday.

................all we know now is that, come Sunday, you will have nailed the quadrella ...not least the 6th and 9th.

What does wily think of the 9th?

Peter failing the honesty test again.  :clap2:
Show me how many times Iíve claimed to have got the quaddy

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« 2020-Aug-15, 07:33 PM Reply #911 »


Inflated fields of no-hopers -- outcome as expected

Race 6 is also suspect with 9 of the 14 accepted at pre-posts of 10/1or worse.

..................that suspicion was 'on the money' .............. the F4 paid $60,000+.........the average price of the runners was 30/1 .....and 20/1 + if the outlier at 125/1 is excluded.

Luckily for me Monty had the 20/1 winner as his second selection (and he earlier had the 10/1 winner of R4 as his second selection).

... and Monty creamed the  $800 MN quadrella ..... it was a close run thing at the end as it required an exemplary display of showmanship from Willie Pike to get the odds-on pop home.

........what will the wily one say about MN R6?............ an apology perhaps



Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Aug-15, 07:43 PM Reply #912 »
Why the  :censored:  would I apologise to you, you brain dead  moron.  :lol:
I backed the winner :clap2: :clap2:

Sadly I had 3 of the F4 as well. Could have been handy getting 48k but I lacked the balls to execute

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« 2020-Aug-15, 07:55 PM Reply #913 »

.......it was just a suggestion to test the mentality

...remember this So the latest ...............is you canít have horses over $10.....you idiot

 ............no one would be surprised that wily 'backed the winner' @20/1 and had 'three of the four' in an F4 paying $60k............ no one would be surprised...........no one.......regular as clockwork

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« 2020-Aug-15, 08:05 PM Reply #914 »
.......it was just a suggestion to test the mentality

...remember this So the latest ...............is you canít have horses over $10.....you idiot

 ............no one would be surprised that wily 'backed the winner' @20/1 and had 'three of the four' in an F4 paying $60k............ no one would be surprised...........no one.......regular as clockwork

Once again. are you doubting me?

Show some guts and be direct you turd

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« 2020-Aug-15, 10:05 PM Reply #915 »


.................it is not just me pointing wily up.............. he needs to be more honest.

............. wily needs to re-direct himself onto a path of righteousness ........ recognizing when he has said something stupidly knee-jerk reactive ....... to apologize........... and resolve to be more thoughtfully accepting of the bleeding obvious.

......his long-claimed record of 'betting success' makes a mockery of credibility.

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« 2020-Aug-15, 10:32 PM Reply #916 »
Caulfield Saturday -- go hard and go early

---- -- the worst is saved for last and the main quadrella a no-go.

Race 9 at Caulfield on Saturday is a shocker, over the notorious 1400, it is another likely rort -- 15 +2e accepted and half are at pre-post odds averaging 50/1.......... and the track is likely to be heavy.

Race 6 is also suspect with 9 of the 14 accepted at pre-posts of 10/1or worse.

..........as both races are 'should not be runs' ...the focus is on the first five races with fields of 10  or less.

Come on Pete, one of the most promising gallopers in the country was in the 9th and won well. You could have done no form and seen that, what's your excuse for failing?

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« 2020-Aug-15, 11:11 PM Reply #917 »

Hind-sight can be illustrative of showmanship

................. even non believers would have bent their knee at the 200.............. it was odds-on....       I won well when it got up.

.... as you say it is a good horse ...up 10 kg in BM rating over recent starts.........  it did win ........ not bad to come from well back over 1400m at Caulfield.

Nonetheless, had the F4 been filled by the 2-5 runners the F4 'would have paid' well in excess of $60,000 an the quadrella some $25,000 +

........all is well that ends well ............. but many were on their knees at the 200

One lucky outcome does not excuse RVL running rort races that exploit most punters.


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« 2020-Aug-16, 12:13 AM Reply #918 »
IDIOT!

The TAB's business is to exploit punters every single race!

It is what they do!

Fours

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« 2020-Aug-16, 08:08 AM Reply #919 »

.................it is not just me pointing wily up.............. he needs to be more honest.

............. wily needs to re-direct himself onto a path of righteousness ........ recognizing when he has said something stupidly knee-jerk reactive ....... to apologize........... and resolve to be more thoughtfully accepting of the bleeding obvious.

......his long-claimed record of 'betting success' makes a mockery of credibility.


So peter, youíre still doubting me.?

Who else is or is that another of your bald faced lies
Want to have a wager on your claims?

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« 2020-Aug-16, 08:22 AM Reply #920 »


.................. just saying ............ the facts speak for themselves

........  my Wednesday identification of races that should not be run ...because they defraud punters......... has been consistently correct.

Punters collectively should ask for a better deal.

In Sydney the Highway-Robbery races, if run at all,  should be the first race not the first leg of a quadrella ......... there is no comparable form to base judgments of outcomes.

The performance of RVL in Melbourne is however the stand out ......... inflated-field races are deliberately contrived to be unfair to all involved ....... punters, owners, jockeys, stud masters .......... all except the fixed-odds bookies selecting loser-only customers.


Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Aug-16, 08:46 AM Reply #921 »
No Peter. You called me a liar and now are running from that like the weak as piss of shit you are

Now apologies


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« 2020-Aug-16, 07:45 PM Reply #922 »


How good is that? --- RVL cant find contenders for 10th for all races.


Never forget the last couple of weeks ---- sensibly sized fields in the early races gave most punters a chance.

........ getting the early MN quadrella has been well with in reach.... a win is better than a loss.

..............there is nothing enticing about having no chance to collect a lotto-like dividends for F4 and Quadrella outcomes reflecting inflated fields and unfair racing.

...... there was a time ..............for all time prior to 'dollars for 10th' corrupting race outcomes.

RVL needs to be pulled into line with national policies precluding 'deliberate detriment' to consumers.

[In Sydney, the running of Highway Robbery races is similarly deserving of condemnation ....... just a ruse to sucker country people to be an 'on course' presence when 'no one' would sensibly be there.]

 





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« 2020-Aug-16, 07:53 PM Reply #923 »


....as an aside

....................a barking dog .... routinely derides me offensively ...  especially after I point up apparent inconsistencies in his postings ............ as the bible says .......I forgive those who know not what they do.

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« 2020-Aug-16, 10:47 PM Reply #924 »
As usual youíre  too spineless to answer the question   :lol:

Why didnít you back the great Bella Nipotina Peter? Even monty found it even though it took him 5 goes at his dart board  :lol:

Oh thatís right itís price was longer than $10 so it wasnít on your radar💩


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