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Offline fours

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« 2020-Sep-10, 10:56 AM Reply #950 »
wiley ole dog,

Sometimes the errors are so glaring that I wonder if it is a deliberate thing - to give them some cream for the work they do.....

Over your head Peter so forget it.

Fours

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« 2020-Sep-10, 12:08 PM Reply #951 »
You may be right fours, "let it snow"😉😃

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« 2020-Sep-10, 07:56 PM Reply #952 »


A BLAST OF CANDOUR FROM A NEWSCORPSE SITE


I am astonished that a newscorpse owned racing site would publish this Q & A with pro punters

           https://www.punters.com.au/news/q-and-a-with-pro-punters%3a-part-i_192876/

Cop this for candour about the way administrators have fouled their nest in exploiting most punters ......... some extracts ..........

............exotics have been destroyed by the bookmakers taking volume from the pools, and also by the rebate system..............insane, and due to the fact the bookmakers are allowed to bet those exotic products without any money going into the pools. .............the corporate bookies bleeding the normal puntersí money out of the pools by offering tote products, and the syndicates flattening the dividends as they pursue rebates has laid waste to what was traditionally a good betting option. ...........For some bizarre reason, corporates are allowed to piggy-back the TAB dividends and offer them. How this has been allowed to happen is beyond belief. Itís ruined tote betting in Australia."It's ruined tote betting in Australia."
The only people playing in the pools are the pros Ė thereís no diverse public money in there as itís all at the corporate bookies.
 

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« 2020-Sep-10, 10:29 PM Reply #953 »
So now Mair cares what the pros think instead of the  average punter  :lol:
You just prostitute yourself constantly   :lol:

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« 2020-Sep-11, 05:09 PM Reply #954 »
Hey Mair, did you back Reposition today at Tuncurry.

I had to wait to see if it was going to be scratched at the barrier before snaffling the $51 and F4🤑

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« 2020-Sep-12, 05:15 PM Reply #955 »
Thanks for the heads up Pete. Before they were scratched at the barriers by some moron Iíve jumped in and taken massive odds on 2 runners in the last.

Itís averaged out at over $50. 🤗

It appears to me the price accessors computers havenít done their form on the race......letís hope Iím right, eh😆

Hope you got the $34 on September Run Peter  :thumbsup:🍾🍾🥳🥳

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« 2020-Sep-12, 08:01 PM Reply #956 »

Monty was magnificent today............as usual.

In Melbourne .......... he did not include September Run (the late mail) but otherwise creamed the program ..... Crosshaven, Pretty Brazen, The Chosen One, Zoutori,  .......... EQ paid $25k............. Travimyfriend, ...........
This on a day when the F4s .....included 60k,30k,2x 10k, 5k and 2x3k. (................. a 1.66% box4 on the last returned $85.)

In Sydney.... he missed Badoosh (the late mail)............. and Discharged ............ but OK otherwise.

.................. Monty is not on the list of those advised by Thursday that 'something' has been got ready .............. but he is the standout tipster by far.


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« 2020-Sep-12, 08:13 PM Reply #957 »


Can administrators set good example on ensuring integrity?

............  some illustrations of grossly unfair racing were predictable on Wednesday.

Saturday's inflated acceptances......... the broader picture is for another illustration of punter deception.


Why would RVL allow 12 early 3yros to run over 1400m at Flemington in a so-called listed-race? [F4 paid $3K][/u] ...... race 6 has 15 to run over 1400m, with most not entitled to the weight [F4 paid $60k] ..... and race 9 has 18 early 3yro fillies to run down the 1100m straight.........leave me out! [F4 paid $5k]

RNSW is generally more restrained .....but why run 16 at Rosehill over 1200 in race 8 ............ again with most not entitled to carry the allocated weight. [the F4 paid $80k]


Can we have another loud call of administrators commitment to 'integrity' in the racing industry?

                    ................ and please look for likely, 'never win again', aged smokeys touched by the hand of a redeemer.

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« 2020-Sep-12, 08:40 PM Reply #958 »
But peter, you donít want those big priced runners running  :lol:

Well done to munty......45 darts and he found something but you still couldnít    :lol:

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« 2020-Sep-12, 08:53 PM Reply #959 »


Monty can, and does routinely ...............

...................I can, and do, say on Wednesday where the administrators are rorting the punters


..... you should be endorsing my call to stop administrators taking advantage of most punters.

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« 2020-Sep-12, 09:05 PM Reply #960 »
Your calls, in the main, are stupid. Why in gods name would anyone support you. You are dishonest in the extreme  :bulb:

And who gives a shit about how many winners a profiteering tipster comes up with🥴
« Last Edit: 2020-Sep-12, 09:07 PM by wily ole dog »

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« 2020-Sep-12, 10:16 PM Reply #961 »


..................... a dog with distemper

My calls are spot on ....... on Wednesday before the race is run on Saturday ... that's class!

........ as for Monty ................I think he does not bet ............... that may be why he is so good.

                  ..... he is very good................ very very good.

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« 2020-Sep-13, 08:11 AM Reply #962 »

..................... a dog with distemper

My calls are spot on ....... on Wednesday before the race is run on Saturday ... that's class!

........

  :lol:  You keep telling yourself that, old boy and in the meantime ask yourself one question

If youíre so good why are you arguing with a nobody on an Internet forum that no one comes to  :lol:

Thatís what your class has delivered you, sacked from the industry & left to wallow on a defunct forum where all you do is expose your own incompetence


« Last Edit: 2020-Sep-13, 08:13 AM by wily ole dog »

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« 2020-Sep-13, 10:19 AM Reply #963 »


This forum is one which industry professionals are likely to read but not post.

.......... any idea that I would 'argue' with you is fanciful .......... conversely your aggressive posts convey the aura of a debate.............and that might help sustain interest in a forum where few others initiate or sustain threads.

So, thanks for that .....no argument.

You can read what I say on Wednesdays as to likely rough outcomes ........ spot on stuff............. blind-freddy stuff.......yet still the administrators schedule races and accept nominations knowing most punters will be disadvantaged.

 ................... and you know that is unacceptable behaviour for an industry claiming 'integrity'.


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« 2020-Sep-13, 10:31 AM Reply #964 »
Aggressive   :lol:

No princess Iím just calling out your lies and brain farts.

On Wednesday you didnít want September run to be in the field. Smart punters who do form got $34.🍾
Dunces like you just squeal that it should be scratched fromthe race because you deem it not good enough.

The truth of the matter is you are lazy And donít know the first think about racing.

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« 2020-Sep-17, 03:43 PM Reply #965 »


Administrators salting the mine again for punters on Saturday

It is not carnival-time for the punters this Saturday.

Far too many runners 'accepted' to run are at pre-post prices that say say they should not have been.

Once connections paid fees to nominate and be accepted ........... and did not run no-hopers ...... now they get paid to run for 10th................. runners that do not get to the gates with the SP 20/1 or less should be scratched .............. the connections could bet their price down if they were truly there to win.

Whatever, on Saturday at Caulfield there are 3 races over the 1400m ........ a mares BM 90 with 14 to start, a 3yro fillies with 12 and a G1 with 16 to start............... hope and pray.....don't bet.

At Randwick there is the usual hwy-rob race 2 over 1,000 with 18 to start to wreck the early quadrella.......and the last race .....BM78 over 1400 with 16 to start makes the main quadrella a bit of a raffle as usual.

.......... this is not good racing administration!

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« 2020-Sep-17, 05:28 PM Reply #966 »
Any racing administration is good racing administration as long as they donít listen to your moronic brain farts :clap2:

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« 2020-Sep-17, 05:46 PM Reply #967 »
So letís get this right.

 The failed racing administrator, P. Mair wants all of the group 1 horses like Streets if Avalon, BeGood Toya Mother, Dollar for Dollar, Madam Rouge, along with a raft of G2 & G3 horses, scratched from the race on Raceday due to their odds being too big  :lol:   :lol:  

No wonder you were sacked   :lol:

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« 2020-Sep-19, 04:11 PM Reply #968 »

Administrators salting the mine again for punters on Saturday

It is not carnival-time for the punters this Saturday.

Far too many runners 'accepted' to run are at pre-post prices that say say they should not have been.

Once connections paid fees to nominate and be accepted ........... and did not run no-hopers ...... now they get paid to run for 10th................. runners that do not get to the gates with the SP 20/1 or less should be scratched .............. the connections could bet their price down if they were truly there to win.

Whatever, on Saturday at Caulfield there are 3 races over the 1400m ........ a mares BM 90 with 14 to start, a 3yro fillies with 12 and a G1 with 16 to start............... hope and pray.....don't bet.

At Randwick there is the usual hwy-rob race 2 over 1,000 with 18 to start to wreck the early quadrella.......and the last race .....BM78 over 1400 with 16 to start makes the main quadrella a bit of a raffle as usual.

.......... this is not good racing administration!


Hey Pete, did you back Ideum or did you think it was scratched at the barriers by some brain dead wannabe administrator  :lol:   :lol:

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« 2020-Sep-19, 08:16 PM Reply #969 »

Melbourne metropolitan racing

..................... a casual perusal of the acceptances on Wednesday says stay away ............. well away ....... from the determination of RVL to make a mockery of most punters patronage.

................ on Saturday at Caulfield there are 3 races over the 1400m ........ a mares BM 90 with 14 to start, a 3yro fillies with 12 and a G1 with 16 to start............... hope and pray.....don't bet.

............not bet on these races was good advice............. the F4s paid 3.5k, 15k and 27k

Worse was the consequences of inflated fields in the 7th  .............. F4 paid 15k............. and in the last, a so-called G3, delivered a 30k F4.

.................... as for the once tale-of-two-cities .............. only Sydney racing remains relevant .............. Melbourne is now ranking very low on the scale of quality racing.



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« 2020-Sep-19, 09:11 PM Reply #970 »
Pete, you didnít back Odeum?

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« 2020-Sep-22, 07:58 PM Reply #971 »


Prepare the mind for Saturday

RVL has scheduled 4 races over 1400 ..... two for early 3yros ......... incredibly described as G3 and G2 events ...........and two others .....one a BM78 ...........the other an 'open' hcp.

.............. let us hope for no more than 10 to start .....to ensure a fair race.

On current form RVL meetings are on an 'irrelevance' par with the standard nonsense served up in all other states.

The prospect of rain confuses the prospects.

RNSW is similarly deficient in branding early 3yro races as  'black type' ........ and running hwy-rob races as a leg of a quadrella.............. when there are no comparative form lines .. ......a bet is a raffle ticket.

.......... acceptances tomorrow .....scratchings on Saturday ......... sadness on Sunday for most.

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« 2020-Sep-22, 09:58 PM Reply #972 »

Waller, doing what he does, complying with racing rules, is a problem for most punters

Do the stewards monitor what Waller posts to stable followers ..... about the prospects of 'all' his multiple runners in the races where punters are 'wrong-footed'?

Do the betting fluctuations suggest some 'know more than others'  ............ do stewards monitor, with CCTV, 'who' places long-shot winning bets on 'country' TABs ....... do they ask them 'why' ?

The concept of the 'sting' is ingrained in the culture of the racing industry .............. and the stewards are, apparently, blind to the possibility of 'insider trading' on runners readied to run well, beyond punters expectations.

................. it is not a fair game  ..... when weighted in favour of those smoking one in.

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« 2020-Sep-22, 10:03 PM Reply #973 »
Slow Learner,

I have already provided a thread showig profits on Waller's horses with before the race tips.

Try doing some work and learning how to do it - without inside knowledge - but your own judgement applied after doing some work.

Fours

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« 2020-Sep-23, 12:44 AM Reply #974 »
I have been round bookmaking on course and online for a long time.

Many of the very best customers ( as in biggets losers) were trainers both backing their own horses and others.

If you think Waller actually "knows" exactly how each one of the 30-40 starters he would have a week is going to perform you are sillier than I thought.

Jason


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