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Offline Peter Mair

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« 2019-Mar-17, 09:25 AM Reply #175 »

Inflated fields are spoiling the game

Saturday will illustrate the story:  4 dire-strait races -- 2 each of 1400&1600m races with inflated fields of 16 -- and a 2000m race with 16 starters.

Saturday did tell the story -- 20 starters in low-grade BM 80 races make for a mess -- as do dire-strait races for 2yro fillies.

Sydney racing was better -- but 20 starters in a G1 over 1500 m at Rosehill is a plan for a $200,000 F4 dividend.

.......... punters must be getting the message -- week after week in Melbourne!


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« 2019-Mar-17, 09:29 AM Reply #176 »
Peter,

Why aren't you making a killing every week?

You could be laying the shorties in all these fields PLUS

taking the 200g combos only in the first four and quaddies to clean up at very little expense.

Unless of course you don't believe your own spiel.

Fours

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« 2019-Mar-18, 09:52 AM Reply #177 »


Why aren't you making a killing every week?

.................... same reason as you and most others.

It is not about the winning odds being short or long -- rather it is the irrelevance of the form guide to the outcomes and the opportunities this opens for one 'to be got ready' and smoked in without any qualifying restraints.

.............. the MN carnival has seen some stunts pulled off undercover of 'inflated fields'.


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« 2019-Mar-18, 10:27 AM Reply #178 »
The formguide is not irrelevant it's that you don't use it :tin:

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2019-Mar-18, 09:01 PM Reply #179 »

Modest punters would not be happy


...........even the wily one must be having second thoughts about 'inflated fields' delivering rough results and providing the cover for one smoked in, to run well, in defiance of the form guide.

I can understand me missing clues in the form guide but long-odds winners suggest almost all others missed read it also.


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« 2019-Mar-19, 08:49 AM Reply #181 »


Please remind me of the question?

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« 2019-Mar-19, 12:09 PM Reply #182 »

RVL on the slippery slope?

Situations unfold unevenly and in complex ways.

I have a real allergy to the Racing.com broadcast presenters -- simply could not watch a 'get on' become 'get-off'.

The news that David Gately no longer fits in that RVL culture is not surprising -- and I would also be pleased to see NSW welcome back Brent Zerafra.

............ one very welcome exposure would be the 'presenter guidelines' given to R.Com presenters................. there do seem to be tight restrictions on any allusions to tips gone astray and punters expectations being unfairly disappointed.


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« 2019-Mar-19, 12:56 PM Reply #183 »

Please remind me of the question?

Watch the 2links and tell me why the winner started at $41

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« 2019-Mar-20, 01:02 PM Reply #184 »
Peter.

Hawkesbury today...

R1  and a field of 7 runners     $14 winner - 2nd longest in the field
R2 and a field of 7 runners     $36 winner longest price in field

Your inflated field theory is looking worse by the second.

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« 2019-Mar-20, 01:28 PM Reply #185 »
4s, he will fall back on his other brain fart about insider trading instead :tin:

I note he hasnít addressed my previous post as it would result in him agreeing with me, which he doesnít have a high enough degree of personal integrity to do :bulb:

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« 2019-Mar-21, 04:00 PM Reply #186 »

Saturdays only  -- and only in Sydney and Melbourne

It is too difficult for most to explain rough results in 'black type' races in Sydney and Melbourne -- and  administrators certainly do not want any competent race watcher 'explaining' how the fair running of a race was compromised by various factors in the control of the administrators.

The idea that people bet on maiden races run on heavy tracks out-of-town is a mystery of the world.

....... explaining why a long-odds runner won the race is a deeper level of mystery.

I would have to rely on the assessments of people like wily and fours.

The lesson to be drawn is 'do not do it' -- Saturday only is the only go.


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« 2019-Mar-21, 07:05 PM Reply #187 »


....... explaining why a long-odds runner won the race is a deeper level of mystery.

I would have to rely on the assessments of people like wily and fours.

So you didnít even have the courage or honesty to even look at the links.
Instead you chose to pedal your lies

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« 2019-Mar-27, 06:31 PM Reply #188 »


BENDY-NO-GO ON SATURDAY

RVLs dereliction of national-obligation to the racing industry can hardly be more clear than with the meeting scheduled for Bendy-no-go on Saturday.

Check out the low-grade, inflated menu being served up at Bendy-no-go on Saturday.

http://www.racingaustralia.horse/FreeFields/Acceptances.aspx?Key=2019Mar30%2CVIC%2CBendigo

This low grade nonsense detracts from the overall opportunity for punters nationally to enjoy the Sydney carnival.

It follows on the farce of the no-star-mile and the standalone stay-away at somewhere last Saturday.

Where is the needed national leadership from the miss-called Racing Australia?






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« 2019-Mar-27, 06:50 PM Reply #189 »

Have a go at this for RVL tripe at Sandown today:

Early Quaddie 3-2-5-10  $9,425.40

Quaddie 6-10-3-7 $25,106.00

First Four    10-5-8-6  $8,939.50 Jackpot $1,215.51

First Four    3-1-12-11    $20,543.70 Jackpot $8,714.80


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« 2019-Mar-27, 07:04 PM Reply #190 »
Welcome back peter, you weak as piss fool.  :lol:

Of course we didnít hear from your after punters cleaned up at last weeks stand alone meeting atMornington where the quaddy was a paltry $470.

Youíre a dishonest spammer, lacking integrity  :bulb:


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« 2019-Mar-27, 07:50 PM Reply #191 »


Self Sense and common sense are different

Let us see what you have to say on Monday  -- most times the outcomes are against you.

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« 2019-Mar-29, 08:29 AM Reply #192 »


Learning from last year

With the exception of a winner at 60/1, the winners last year averaged around 5/1.

This did not preclude some rough F4 outcomes.

https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2018-04-07/BENDIGO/M/R/9/Win

Tomorrow is another day but the fields are over full and some rain is forecast  -- in most races only a couple of runners are under 10/1 and excluding those that do not warrant a start would improve the prospects of fair racing.

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« 2019-Mar-29, 08:07 PM Reply #193 »


Why would RVL allow this nonsense to continue?

At Warnambool today:

Early Quaddie    7-6-3-2      $6,991.00

Quaddie      2-10-10-8      $22,235.20

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« 2019-Mar-29, 08:11 PM Reply #194 »
Why donít they stop idiots from punting?

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« 2019-Mar-30, 07:56 AM Reply #195 »


-----------  your freedom is something to be treasured

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« 2019-Mar-30, 11:13 AM Reply #196 »
Like most punters Iím hoping to buy my freedom via a massive quaddy divvy in both states :bulb:

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« 2019-Mar-30, 07:27 PM Reply #197 »


............. 'hope' is not a strategy -- Bendy-no-go as expected,  a $3k quadrella -- including $70K and 25k F4s on the two feature races run with chock-a-bloc fields .

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« 2019-Mar-31, 01:32 PM Reply #198 »
Well Pete, one of the most respected judges in Dean Lester found that quaddie you are complaining about.

If you won't do the work yourself then you could do far worse than listen to what Dean has to say.

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« 2019-Mar-31, 07:59 PM Reply #199 »


No disagreement --Dean Lester and Mark Hunter on 2KSKY at 9 am on Saturdays are the best tipping duo in Melbourne.

.......... when the both put one on top -- get on!.


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