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Online Peter Mair

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« 2019-Jun-13, 08:31 PM Reply #250 »

-------------- enjoy the races -- watch the dividends!

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« 2019-Jun-13, 08:49 PM Reply #251 »
Oh I do Pete, I do.

Pity you don’t

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« 2019-Aug-01, 09:21 PM Reply #252 »


.............. will the lemmings bet on the Valley races on Saturday?

RVL has a problem with the credibility of the Valley of Tears track........... it is seasonally languishing with low-grade stock to run in the races..... yet, what does it do to present a fair go for the cant-help-it punters?

It should run small fields of horses entitled to carry the allocated weight -- instead it has inflated the low-grade fields in a way which will please only the fixed odds bookmakers and the syndicates milking TAB pools.

You tell me --  in forming your opinion, have regard to this 'Valley Preview' presented at punters.com.au

https://www.punters.com.au/news/moonee-valley-preview_182331/


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« 2019-Aug-02, 08:38 AM Reply #253 »
It was laughable when old Pete held up Monty as his go to man. Now he thinks some bloke called James Lamb is a worthwhile reference   :lol:

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« 2019-Aug-04, 06:35 PM Reply #254 »


And so it came to pass ....... a Lamb foretold the slaughter  ........... yesterday and again today....... and into the future.

It is beyond comprehension that (mainly) Victorian punters put up with the consistent presentation of low-grade racing.

The dividends tell the story -- the bigger the dividends declared the lower the quality of the racing presented.




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« 2019-Aug-11, 05:42 PM Reply #255 »


A State of collective stupidity


Apparently, Victorian punters are beyond commonsense redemption -- unable to remember they were robbed last week, they put more money in easy reach of the robbers again this week -- and they were robbed again.

Week-in and week-out, Victorian punters are putting $2,000,000+ into VICTAB  quadrella pools and it is knocked off by the professional syndicates.

Their parochialism is unbounded  -- they do not realize that the quality of racing in NSW is far superior  -- and the converse that the poor-quality of Victorian racing puts it in the same class as the minor states.

The penny has still to drop that the RVL policy of serving up inflated fields of could-run-10th horses is not good for the punters.



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« 2019-Sep-13, 01:44 PM Reply #256 »


Strike a light -- no-go racing at Flemington

Check out the fields for Melbourne tomorrow -- as close to a no-bet day as it gets.

Capacity fields -- 3 over-turning at 1400 -- 2 up the dire strait -- one risky race with an odds-on favourite drawn wide.

Punters.com.au suggest 'no bet' in three of the races  -- that.s damning.

The racing offered in Sydney is not much better with big fields over the sprint races and little to wait for.

The administrators confuse 'spring interest' and 'stupid punters'  -- and take them for a ride.

...... wait for the outcomes..... go wide ......... bet your phone number


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« 2019-Sep-13, 01:54 PM Reply #257 »
Great days racing in both states. Those capable of doing to form will succeed whilst enjoying the great depth of talent on display

Only a fool with no idea, outside from self interest,  could be critical with what’s on offer :no1:

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« 2019-Sep-13, 04:29 PM Reply #258 »


Betfair says:

The Track

There has been a mixed history from recent similar meetings on 6/7, 18/5 and 16/2.

Straight races are always somewhat of a lottery, depending on how the track has been prepared specifically for this meeting. My forecast is they’ll race off the fence but inside the middle of the track, but it wouldn’t surprise if they went middle to outside.

In regards to circle races, the key thing to look out for is early signs that runners settling on the fence prior to the 600m are not doing as well as those settling 2W or even 3W.

Beyond that, whether horses 4+ off the straight are more prominent than those closer in? This was the pattern we saw on 18/5.

Any irrigation on Friday may help that pattern, so worth checking on Saturday morning.

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« 2019-Sep-14, 11:48 AM Reply #259 »
Thank you Peter

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« 2019-Sep-14, 06:42 PM Reply #260 »


Strike a light -- no-go racing at Flemington

Inflated fields in the 1400m and 1600 m races delivered an insult to punters -- as was predictable.

These F4s paid $250k (a 1400 for 14 3yros -- madness), $8.5k, $40k and $2k -- the quadrella paid $110k.

...... these races are supposed to be group and listed black-type excellence -- they are mockingly not.

RVL should not need to be told that this is a disgrace of their making -- they wont listen -- but tell them anyway  .

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« 2019-Sep-14, 06:51 PM Reply #261 »

Strike a light -- no-go racing at Flemington


No go racing at Flemington if you’re mug but then again, thank go for the mugs like Mair who can’t do the form  :clap2:

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« 2019-Sep-15, 09:35 PM Reply #262 »


Hong Kong racing devalued by inflated fields

Any aspirations HK-racing has for shifting betting turnover to the 'island state' will come to naught unless it culls fields of the clutter runners that impede a fair race.

As with RVL, the promise of laying 'land mines' on the course, randomly impeding any and all runners is a turn off -- and that adds to the problem of a couple of leading riders having the pick of the mounts and spoiling the prospects.

........ look at the HK results today ............ clear lanes with land mines =  a mess.

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« 2019-Sep-16, 07:14 AM Reply #263 »
Oh Peter why are you so dishonest?

Only recently you were telling us how good the field sizes and racing was in HK.


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« 2019-Sep-19, 10:54 PM Reply #264 »


Any early thoughts

Caulfield Race 8 on Saturday -- 16 accepted -- over 1400m -- for 3yro fillies -- a listed race........

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« 2019-Sep-19, 11:02 PM Reply #265 »


................... some 'thought' clues from last year

1400m3F-LR

Trifecta    4-5-10     $5,015.00

First Four    4-5-10-3   $63,699.90  Jackpot $20,867.31









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« 2019-Sep-21, 08:16 PM Reply #266 »


History repeats -- apparently

A race  that should not have been run: R8 at Caulfield today -- 15 3yro fillies over the notorious 1400m course.

The predictable 'rough' result was an indictment of RVL and the rubbish that parades as 'melbourne-metropolitan-racing'.

The F4 paid $90k and the quadrella $50k -- assisted by another 'rough' result in the first leg -- a $40k F4.

This is disgraceful -- and predictably so -- a defective product presented to punters as a 'fair bet'.

.............. the only unknown is the content of the knee-jerk dismissal of this truth by the RVL disciples.


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« 2019-Sep-22, 06:53 AM Reply #267 »
Congratulations Pete I assume you got the trifecta and the First 4.

You are turning into  a real punter, you identified a pattern, you have an edge and now you can make a profit.

That’s how the big syndicates you are so clearly jealous of operate.

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« 2019-Sep-22, 08:11 AM Reply #268 »
Nah Antiab, it’s far easier for Peter to sit n the sidelines and throw crap at people


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« 2019-Sep-22, 09:50 AM Reply #269 »


What do the RVL devil-disciples make of their diminished wallets?

.............. the excrement is being thrown by RVL and punters betting modestly are covered in it.

The devils disciples need to consider their position.


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« 2019-Sep-22, 08:18 PM Reply #270 »


The devil's disciples are feeling the heat -- gone dry in the mouth -- hopefully getting the message about administrators corrupting the game.

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« 2019-Sep-26, 10:55 PM Reply #271 »


What do the devil's disciples think about their chances getting a fair go on Sunday, at the Heath?

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« 2019-Sep-29, 08:40 PM Reply #272 »

CALL THE COPS

....................  another disgraceful display of administrartive bungling today at Caulfield -- 80/1 and 100/1 'winners' , a $50k+ F4 and thew quadrellas paying $20k+ and $55k.

The big sux was not won.

Why would an inflated field of 3yro fillies be acceptedto run over the 1400 course?

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« 2019-Sep-30, 09:09 AM Reply #273 »
Peter, I won’t have a chance to do the video form. Can you point me in the direction of a few runners who were inconvenienced by the inflated fields?

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« 2019-Sep-30, 01:43 PM Reply #274 »
CALL THE COPS

....................  another disgraceful display of administrartive bungling today at Caulfield -- 80/1 and 100/1 'winners' , a $50k+ F4 and thew quadrellas paying $20k+ and $55k.

Come on Pete, BHB wasn't that hard to find, even @ 100/1

No I didn't back it but I can honestly say I spent more time on that race focused on BHB than any other runner, I had Rawiller's words ringing in my ears 'wait to he gets ground as he felt great today' from the Rupert Clarke (Thanks Racenet)

To the point he was the only horse I went back and watched the replay multiple times. I ended up 'wait till he shows something'  :sad:  :bash: so unfortunately I was wrong, in hindsight it was the last 200 where Rawiller went a bit easy on him and Deprive put a 1/2 length on him.

The info was there - we just have to interrupt it right  :shy:


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