Author Topic: Jackals Top 10 Horses (Read 65072 times)

wily ole dog · O.P. « 2014-May-31, 01:05 PM »

I've been intrigued by some of the Jackals comments of late. I find it hard to find one horse that he rates down through the years

Heres your chance mate rather than whats going on over at the Guy Walter thread

The challenge is quite simple. List your top 10 prior to 1970 and the top 20 from 1970 to the present. In order or close enough to

MagiC~* · « 2014-May-31, 01:18 PM **Reply #1** »

For the jackal or not, be quite an interesting topic Wily

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Authorized · « 2014-Jun-01, 08:13 PM **Reply #2** »

Perhaps this thread could be pinned to the top so when anybody comes to the forum they will see it first ?

wily ole dog · « 2014-Jun-02, 07:54 PM **Reply #3** »

Come on jack don't be shy

Authorized · « 2014-Jun-03, 08:34 PM **Reply #4** »

The 10 best horses Mick Dittman rode according to Mick Dittman

Campaign King
Joanne
Chief de Beers
Triscay
Naturalism
Shaftesbury Avenue
Research
Bounding Away
Strawberry Road
Red Anchor

wily ole dog · « 2014-Jun-03, 08:50 PM **Reply #5** »

Nice of you to prompt old jackal but he doesn't appear to want to play

Mighty Micks list, surely, starts from the bottom up

MagiC~* · « 2014-Jun-03, 08:53 PM **Reply #6** »

Maybe change the title wily, to "your" top ten horses ?

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wily ole dog · « 2014-Jun-03, 08:58 PM **Reply #7** »

I sent jack a PM. Im genuinely curious as to his thoughts

sobig · « 2014-Jun-03, 09:07 PM **Reply #8** »

Quote from: wily ole dog on 2014-Jun-03, 08:50 PM

Nice of you to prompt old jackal but he doesn't appear to want to play

Mighty Micks list, surely, starts from the bottom up

Correct wily Red anchor is number 1 and Campaign King number 10.

Jeunes · « 2014-Jun-03, 09:16 PM **Reply #9** »

Quote from: Authorized on 2014-Jun-03, 08:34 PM

The 10 best horses Mick Dittman rode according to Mick Dittman

Campaign King
Joanne
Chief de Beers
Triscay
Naturalism
Shaftesbury Avenue
Research
Bounding Away
Strawberry Road
Red Anchor

http://www.queenslandhistoryofracing.com.au/people/len-mick-dittman/

When you look at some of his group 1 race winners, there are a few good horses not on the list. Mahogany, Veandercross and Sydeston jump straight into mind.

wily ole dog · « 2014-Jun-03, 09:22 PM **Reply #10** »

Yes I certainly would have had Mahogany & Sydeston ahead of the chief & joanne. Maybe he forgot he rode mahogany as hall was on more often than not wasn't he?

JWesleyHarding · « 2014-Jun-03, 09:32 PM **Reply #11** »

Who cares what Jackal's top 10 are?

Obviously they would be only horses who have excelled at the Melbourne Spring carnivals in open Group 1 WFA races defeating only other Melbourne based horses who have excelled in Group 1 WFA races at the Melbourne Spring carnivals.

yawn.

The Jackal · « 2014-Jun-04, 12:11 PM **Reply #12** »

Quote from: JWesleyHarding on 2014-Jun-03, 09:32 PM

Who cares what Jackal's top 10 are?

Obviously they would be only horses who have excelled at the Melbourne Spring carnivals in open Group 1 WFA races defeating only other Melbourne based horses who have excelled in Group 1 WFA races at the Melbourne Spring carnivals.

yawn.

Yes that would certainly be something that is high up on the equine bucket list. As you well know, the cauldron like environs of the Melbourne Spring are so often a precursor to imminent greatness.
Anyway, working on it.

BTW, I think Dittman rode Rough Habit towards the end of his career as well.

Draven39 · « 2014-Jun-07, 12:05 PM **Reply #13** »

If Tulloch is not in his pre 1970 list, and Kingston Town is not in his post 1970 list, then it will just prove how full of it he is, and how his bias makes him blind to any horse that has had great success in Sydney.

Seriously though, his behaviour on the Guy Walter thread was ridiculous and totally disrespectful. POS.

wily ole dog · « 2014-Jun-10, 08:21 PM **Reply #14** »

Come-on Jackal

Can you squeeze Bernborough into your pre 1970 top 10

The Jackal · « 2014-Jun-10, 08:25 PM **Reply #15** »

Yeah I will, but only because those that revered him so will need to remember how little they had to entertain themselves.

Draven39 · « 2014-Jun-12, 05:52 PM **Reply #16** »

So amongst all your trash talk of other horses Jack... where's your list?

The Jackal · « 2014-Jun-12, 06:28 PM **Reply #17** »

It's not ready yet, but don't worry, it's not far away, you'll have have plenty of time to get some mulitnics into the thread for it.

The Jackal · « 2014-Jun-12, 10:26 PM **Reply #18** »

Top 10 prior to 1970

1. Carbine
2. Phar Lap
3. Ajax
4. Eurythmic
5. Tulloch
6. Beau Vite
7. Peter Pan
8. Rising Fast
9. Wakeful
10. High Caste

Lert · « 2014-Jun-12, 10:40 PM **Reply #19** »

Yep, all great horses and worthy of a place in such a list.
A pretty good effort, except for the glaring omission of the mighty Bernborough of course!

The Jackal · « 2014-Jun-12, 11:54 PM **Reply #20** »

A bit hard to include him in a top 10, he didn't majorly do anything out of the ordinary.

The hardest horse to rate was Rising Fast, not a great win percentage, but poorly trained and mucked around with.
But his season in 1954 is a sealer.
He won the Turnbull Stakes, Caulfield Stakes, Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate, Mackinnon Stakes, Melbourne Cup and CB Fisher Plate.
No horse has ever done that.
Based on staying performances only, with the exception of Carbine, he would be without peer.

Authorized · « 2014-Jun-13, 12:11 AM **Reply #21** »

How far does your era extend The Jackal ?

I started following the sport with a passion from about 1985.

The Jackal · « 2014-Jun-13, 12:14 AM **Reply #22** »

I think the Parameters are detailed at the top of the thread.

firezuki · « 2014-Jun-13, 12:15 AM **Reply #23** »

Quote from: Lert on 2014-Jun-12, 10:40 PM

Yep, all great horses and worthy of a place in such a list.
A pretty good effort, except for the glaring omission of the mighty Bernborough of course!

I'm surprised he included Phar Lap. Another damp squib.

wily ole dog · « 2014-Jun-13, 07:29 AM **Reply #24** »

Quote from: Authorized on 2014-Jun-13, 12:11 AM

How far does your era extend The Jackal ?

I started following the sport with a passion from about 1985.

Yes, it's a great list, well done. I find it very hard to form an opinion when not seeing them. Buggered if I know how I would rate that era apart from the top 3 or 4

The next era will be even harder as we all have different ideas about what a champion is