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Offline Peter Mair

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O.P. « 2018-May-31, 04:42 PM »

No need for caution at Moonee Valley

Do not open the list of starters masquerading as form guide

A winter race meeting at the Vale of Tears is surely a fearful prospect for addicted punters.

Do not go anywhere near it is the clear advice -- a mere note of caution would not suffice.

Capacity fields, replete with many long-priced runners not even rated to warrant the minimum weight, all scrambling to be near the front before the turn is hardly a promise of a fair go.

One can only wonder what RVL expects to eventuate.



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« 2018-May-31, 04:46 PM Reply #1 »
 :clap2:

As usual 100% correct.

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« 2018-May-31, 05:40 PM Reply #2 »
As usual, Christ almighty he’s been wrong 26 weeks in a row  :lol:

The valley is an easy target for his ill thought out views to get some traction. That’s why he’s been missing in action
As usual Mair, do your form :bulb:

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« 2018-May-31, 07:18 PM Reply #3 »

The reasonable expectation of tears

The results of the comparable meeting at the Vale last year -- cop a look at this, scroll the results and project.

                    https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-06-03/MOONEE-VALLEY/M/R/9

[As for me -- I have been in Bordeaux for the past month -- not betting allowed a more generous lifestyle.]


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« 2018-May-31, 07:36 PM Reply #4 »
Bordeaux  :lol:
Who's  teat have you attached yourself to to get there?

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« 2018-May-31, 07:39 PM Reply #5 »
Any hope you could stay there ? I know you will find it hard to believe but no one that I know of has missed you.

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« 2018-May-31, 08:16 PM Reply #6 »
You can imagine how tbe french took to him  :biggrin:

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« 2018-May-31, 08:19 PM Reply #7 »

......Saturday will tell a story

{apart from the gunner having no relevant contacts......... I believe the wily one was wondering why I was posting 'out of hours' locally.

Attachments to Bordeaux include oysters at the local supermarket for $A6 per dozen, a self contained studio apartment in the CDB for <$A60 per night, the 'solitary confinement' of not understanding local media, the worlds best beers for $A4 per litre,  wine to die for at < $A 10..........  'mothers milk' so on and on but completely blocked from Australian TABs and bookmakers}

........ get over there ........... avoid the Melbourne carnival rort this November }


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« 2018-May-31, 08:21 PM Reply #8 »
Yes he is probably telling them that they would be better off having eight runners in the Arc. He is probably already on a forum in France saying " Cautions for Longchamp "

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« 2018-May-31, 08:25 PM Reply #9 »
Gun
It appears that this is the only forum he tortures with his moronic assertions

Very odd character

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« 2018-May-31, 08:32 PM Reply #10 »

...... the French love me

So handicapped, I am polite to a fault.

As well, no longer smoking, I pick up a carton of smokes at the stopovers for $A 3 per packet and distribute them as 'tips' to  affectionate new friends.

Any move for smokes to cost $A 30 in France would trigger a new revolution.


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« 2018-May-31, 09:04 PM Reply #11 »
Gee I knew he was out of step. That proves it  beyond any reasonable doubt.

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« 2018-May-31, 09:15 PM Reply #12 »
Gee I knew he was out of step. That proves it  beyond any reasonable doubt.

Has to bribe people with gifts to be accepted   :lol:  :

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« 2018-Jun-01, 12:23 PM Reply #13 »
So Pete admits he is the local Drug Pusher, that shows the morals the man has.........making a profit out of the drug addicted misery of others....what a low life....then he comes on here and pretends to be holier than thou, doing his bit to help protect us poor silly punters who are addicted to the punt and our addiction is being exploited by the powers that be in racing.............what a hypocrite!! Nice to see Pete finally showing his true colors............but a dope pushing drugs? has a funny ring to it, don't ya reckon?

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« 2018-Jun-01, 07:59 PM Reply #14 »
Just to highlight the dishonesty that is P Mair.
His contention is that over 14runners is too big a field
At 5he valley tomorrow there are only 2 of 9 races with more than 14 runners and those races have 1 extra horse. 15 in the field.
The bloke can “lie” straight in bed or he’s a moron, you choose  :lol:

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« 2018-Jun-02, 09:02 PM Reply #15 »


A predictable story was retold on Saturday

....... neatly summarized in the quadrella dividends of $12k and $28k.

It is not just inflated fields, there is a  problem is with any racing at the Vale of Tears -- a track that should be closed until completely reformed.


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« 2018-Jun-03, 01:45 PM Reply #16 »
Pete why are you so obsessed with the quadrella as a way to prove your worthless point? if every punter doesn't pick 4 consecutive winners in races not of their choosing there must be something wrong?......
If you had any credibility you should be discouraging punters from having such stupid bets.....Quadrellas are for greedy, lazy punters who aren't very B-R-I-T-E.... like you....or big syndicates who take advantage of the aforementioned type of punters......although not so much since they have small percentages....it is still an almost impossible bet with very few winners.....even if an even money fav won every leg 99% of punters would still lose..........

Do you realise the best way to stop your headache is to stop baning it on a Brick wall??......a truck load of panadol won't cure your pain if you keep on banging away!!

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« 2018-Jun-03, 03:33 PM Reply #17 »

MQ -- the most popular bet in Australia

It is appropriate to focus on the most popular bet in Australia --  the quadrella on the Melbourne metropolitan race meeting on Saturdays.

RVL knows this and has pursued policies that inflate betting turnover and the prospect of inflated lotto-like dividends.

Taken together it is F4 and Quadrella dividends that most clearly show the tricks in RVL policies on race-fields.

The $12k and 28k declared yesterday add to the 'rough results' problem declared with F4 dividends of $16k, 3k, 2.5k and 1.4k.

Keeping your eye on the ball is sensible.


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« 2018-Jun-03, 07:10 PM Reply #18 »
I am not an expert on what others do.....and I don't really care either......but I find it hard to believe that there are more Quadrellas taken than win bets(whether you count it by individual bets or the turnover amounts)......Pete is that really true or are you telling porkies again?

Assuming you are right........instead of telling your children how to play in the middle of a busy traffic road  or what the Government should do to make it safer for children to play in traffic......shouldn't you try to encourage them to ....get off the freakin' road before you finish up splat under a B-Double??

God helps those who help themselves and Christ help those that can't.....and that is coming from an Atheist who knows there is no God and there never was a Jesus Christ.....not the son of God anyway!.....but that is another story

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« 2018-Jun-04, 10:28 PM Reply #19 »


Victorians are special

............ people in Melbourne still go to church on Sunday......... they still have faith in RVL and bet on Saturdays, sometimes praying for divine intervention.

Even so -- as sinners --they know they deserve punishment not financial redemption.

The city is so boring they will attend anything -- funeral notices in the Age ask that only those that knew the deceased attend the wake.

The case for a collective intervention by the Victorian Master in Lunacy is overwhelming.

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« 2018-Jun-14, 08:24 AM Reply #20 »


The prospects for racing at the Valley on Saturday,

............perhaps someone else could assess the prospects of a fair go for most TAB punters.

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« 2018-Jun-15, 04:58 PM Reply #21 »
I have a caveat in my will that part of my ashes are sprinkled at Moonee Valley. It was the first track I attended way back in 1968 and I was gobsmacked by the action. I love doing the form there as often you can take on certain types of horses with a degree of confidence and conversely back the specialists who seem to run better races there. I cannot tell you how many fantastic days I have had at the track. It will be a bit of a downer when its positioning changes but the memories will not disappear.

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« 2018-Jun-15, 06:09 PM Reply #22 »
Good to see a post from you, Roman.  I still refer to a lot of material you sent me 15 or 20 years ago. 

My only day at the Valley was in 1957, when iI was in Melbourne preparing for a year at Macquarie Island.  The great Redcraze won the Cox Plate and the useful Lord Gavin wno the Cup.

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« 2018-Jun-15, 06:20 PM Reply #23 »
I grew up in love with the romance of great cox plates I saw as a young bloke.
Then I saw many of my favourites undone by the horrible joint with its configuration and random bias in major races.
I limit my bets there but if you wish to put in the time and punt smartly, you can certainly reap the rewards

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« 2018-Jun-18, 11:25 PM Reply #24 »
G'day Brian,
Sorry for the late reply.
Gee, we are going back a bit. What did I send you? I can barely remember my name these days??!!
Hope you are well and enjoying life.
I have retired and am living the country life in North East Victoria and am loving the relaxed life style.
Punting wise I am losing this year, so far!  Some trainers have rung me and asked me not to tip their horses as so many are failing. I won well for my bet size last year but had a couple of lucky collects which are not arriving at the moment.
I am still tinkering with Target Betting and even wrote a book about my TB experiences that's for sale on the internet if you have a Kindle reader. If not contact me privately. It's only a few dollars more for the fun of it than a big seller. I am still at the kozza email.
Probably all for now. Bedtime beckoning
Roman Koz


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